How to Disable the ESS - Auto Start Stop on a Jeep JL

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  • čas přidán 27. 12. 2018
  • Like it or hate it, its up to you, leave your comments below. My opinion is that the Auto Stop Start on the new 2018 and 2019 Jeep JL Wrangler JL and JLU is annoying as all get out. Just about the time the light is turning green your Jeep decides to stop the engine to save fuel and then it holds up traffic as it starts up again before its ready to go, putting what I believe is unnecessary strain on the engine components for what amounts to a trick to get the fuel economy numbers in line with what the government wants. What do you think?
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  • @michaelfallen1564
    @michaelfallen1564 Před 5 lety +16

    The biggest concern I have is, how much is this feature going to effect engine life? They can say whatever they want, but I will never believe that restarting the engine over and over again at short intervals is not going to have some negative effect over the long term. I'm just happy my JK doesn't have this, it would drive me insane

  • @trsoff-road321
    @trsoff-road321 Před 5 lety +56

    I solved the start stop problem feature by buying a TJ

    • @jeep6242
      @jeep6242 Před 5 lety +1

      You also solved the lack of torque problem lol.

    • @trsoff-road321
      @trsoff-road321 Před 5 lety +3

      @@jeep6242 and you overpaid another 20k for that whopping 45 more ftlbs of torque..

    • @jeep6242
      @jeep6242 Před 5 lety +1

      @@trsoff-road321 Missing the point. I like the TJ and the 4.0 the torque is at lower RPM. I

    • @rickybobby7752
      @rickybobby7752 Před 5 lety

      XJ for me!

  • @georgekonrad911
    @georgekonrad911 Před 5 lety +35

    So let me get this strait, they put in a fuel saving feature but it is disabled when you're low on fuel and potentially need it the most?

    • @metalfruttolo9855
      @metalfruttolo9855 Před 5 lety +4

      George Konrad because it does not save fuel, the moment an engine burns the most fuel is starting, so unless you stop for minutes shutting it off doesn't have any sense

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye Před 5 lety +4

      @jjw3579 I'll bet they sell a lot of starters in those Countries.

    • @roby14
      @roby14 Před 4 lety

      Not sure but I think auto start stop is there for emitions. Which pisses me off even more.

  • @greynolds17
    @greynolds17 Před 5 lety +19

    *chrysler lawyers have entered the chat*

  • @FooManPu2
    @FooManPu2 Před 5 lety +34

    Auto Stop Start is ASS... literally.

  • @kaptainkoolz6359
    @kaptainkoolz6359 Před 5 lety +35

    A redundant double safety switch for the hood very nicely represents how over engineered vehicles are nowadays. My work vehicle has auto start stop, seems like a terrible idea to stop at a light for 60 seconds while all the oil drains to the pan, then take off to 3k rpm right after the engine starts back up, ill spend the extra dollar in fuel savings to ensure long component life.

    • @crzy4x4
      @crzy4x4 Před 5 lety

      He did say that only one switch disables Stop/Start, the second switch is probably for Remote Start from the key fob.

  • @AStanton1966
    @AStanton1966 Před 8 měsíci

    I realize this video is 4 years old. I just installed the Auto Start/Stop Eliminator from WV in my 2023 Jeep Wrangler Willys for $100. It works great and only took about 20 minutes to install.

  • @Ban-mp5tx
    @Ban-mp5tx Před 4 lety +3

    We hate this feature, too! Even if it does save a little gas, the constant restarting can't possibly be a good thing for the vehicle. I like your method of unplugging 2nd battery sensor. I'd rather deal with a simple warning light, which we know the minor cause of, than to have this constant nuisance and ware on our new jeep. Thanks for the helpful video. :)

  • @evanbellouny7748
    @evanbellouny7748 Před 5 lety +1

    So I installed the second option of the ODB2 connectors in my father WK2 and it works great he loves it. It does use a jumper wire into the and open port and distribution panel behind the dash that runs down to obd2 plug which sets its memory so when you need to take for inspection (like in NY) you can pass and same for any dealer required maintance

  • @paulsthormes251
    @paulsthormes251 Před 5 lety +3

    I know I'm not buying a new Jeep after a watch this love the video Happy New Year

  • @johnganshow5536
    @johnganshow5536 Před 5 lety +1

    Great advice. Thanks....

  • @TheCharleseye
    @TheCharleseye Před 5 lety +7

    "It saves fuel!"
    I don't have to climb under my car to replace the fuel. The starter, on the other hand...

  • @Eightball2516
    @Eightball2516 Před 5 lety +12

    Wish they would of just had a key so much better

  • @ghorman1
    @ghorman1 Před rokem

    Great video. I was trying to figure out my auto start/stop wasn't working. First thing I've seen the sensor being used. I had my engine replaced and that sensor wire got damaged. Replaced it and now everything is working. Thanks for the information.

  • @gilbertarnold8666
    @gilbertarnold8666 Před 5 lety

    Great video, thank you!

  • @redgarcia1427
    @redgarcia1427 Před 5 lety

    That would make you use MORE gas!! I've been told over and over by several mechanics and others over the years that its easier on gas to leave it running if its a short stop..so red lights and stop signs and it shuts off would piss me off to no end!! What if at a red light someone is approaching your car to jack it and oh..oops..cant floor it and get away coz the damn thing isn't started!! That short hesitation could mean life or death!! What a dumbass idea!! Glad you are putting this video out!! Thank you!!

    • @bleepinjeep
      @bleepinjeep  Před 5 lety

      Just fyi, if you happen to have your seatbelt unbuckled and a carjacker opens your door the jeep will automatically go into park...

  • @rigidrebel8781
    @rigidrebel8781 Před 4 lety

    My jl is a 6 speed and I've been driving a manual for over 2 decades. There are times it cuts off when I'm simply trying to move slowly, such as roll up at a red light. Ugh! I hate it! Thanks for the video!

  • @johnyhawgleg
    @johnyhawgleg Před 5 lety +2

    I had it on a rental truck and in traffic when it’s hot outside the AC doesn’t work with the engine off. I had also found with the feature on I got worse mileage in city driving with a lot of start stops.

  • @shawnhuey5096
    @shawnhuey5096 Před 5 lety +1

    THANK YOU for this info! I absolutely HATE that effn button & the only complaint with my new Jeep. I had heard that it's not to save gas tho... it's an emissions control thing. Either way, they need to engineer it out. My Jeep is a manual... imagine having your engine cut out while stopped on a hill. Not too damned smart is it.

  • @timallum9487
    @timallum9487 Před 5 lety

    I just bought a 2000 XJ, would love to see some more XJ videos!

  • @jeremy8715
    @jeremy8715 Před 5 lety +20

    Start/Stop does not save fuel. Change my mind!

    • @jacobdilg2366
      @jacobdilg2366 Před 5 lety +1

      How could it save fuel if it doesnt work when you are low on fuel? You would think that is when it would be most helpful..

    • @jhr2112
      @jhr2112 Před 5 lety

      I have three cars that have it, tried it with and without and it does save a little fuel.

    • @donewhiskey
      @donewhiskey Před 5 lety +4

      I'll let a professional do that: czcams.com/video/dFImHhNwbJo/video.html

  • @niner8tangojuliet149
    @niner8tangojuliet149 Před 5 lety +3

    I’m sure the JL is a fine vehicle. In my opinion TJ and older are the best Jeeps.

  • @brianpooley6635
    @brianpooley6635 Před 5 lety +6

    Just what we would want here in the COLD CANADIAN WINTER when we are trying to keep the frost off our windows and trying to heat up the vehicle. I suspect on the surface you might save some fuel but when you have to replace the early worn out parts the energy needed to make these parts plus the transportation to the seller along with the energy to go and purchase and either bring it home or to the repair shop would use up all the energy saved plus some. It looks good from behind the desk but not so in real life. Doesn't look that good to me if you were offloading and had another button to worry about. Leave them at it long enough and they will find a way to ruin it.

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 Před 5 lety

      Well said. Did they think I want my engine to turn off when it's 100 in Texas? No, I want my AC to keep running.

  • @ScientistPrepper
    @ScientistPrepper Před 2 lety

    Good video - learned from this channel. The feature is ridiculous. Jeep owners understand it is not the most fuel efficient vehicle - and who cares. If you actually want a fuel efficient Jeep, go with the I-4 engine. But then of course you have an awesome off road vehicle powered by a wimpy sewing machine sounding 'engine'. Even with $5 gasoline, the start stop feature won't keep you from being broke - it barely helps if at all - and won't make any appreciable difference in your pocket book.

  • @DaveKerwin77
    @DaveKerwin77 Před 5 lety

    Last option is to hire someone to drive you around and their other job is to hit the button upon startup. LOL. Great video.

  • @viciousgurl8824
    @viciousgurl8824 Před 5 lety +6

    First woot woot love your videos Matt. I have been able to do a ton of custom work on my 98 xj from you.
    Question 1. I do not like auto start stop, I think it’s a flawed system and will eventually prove to be problematic for off-readers.
    Question 2. You drive a Jeep so why do you care about gas mileage 😂😂😂

  • @profitlemon5004
    @profitlemon5004 Před 5 lety +9

    if start stop really saved fuel, then why would it turn off when the fuel is low?

  • @imstricken06
    @imstricken06 Před 5 lety +10

    *SAVES $100 in fuel over the life. Requires a new starter/battery every 5 years for $350*

  • @jamesterry9561
    @jamesterry9561 Před 5 lety +6

    Seems to me it would be better engineered to only activate auto start stop when you turn it on by the button instead of having to turn it off by the button every time.

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 Před 5 lety

      Exactly

    • @tail66
      @tail66 Před 5 lety

      there is an adapter you can install between the wire harness and switch that reverses the switch. the switch is off when you start up. you have to push the button to turn it on.

  • @TheQuartermaster55
    @TheQuartermaster55 Před 5 lety +6

    What tells me it doesnt save fuel, is that if your fuel is low, it becomes disabled.

  • @QuickSpeedShop
    @QuickSpeedShop Před 5 lety

    My 1984 AMC Eagle had a stop/start option from the factory. Whenever one of gazillion vacuum lines AMC used developed a leak or the computerized BBD carb on the 258 fritzed it would quit at stop lights and signs. This requiring me to restart the engine, hold the clutch in, and heel-toe the gas and brake. My solution? Remove all the unnecessary vacuum crap and swap on a pre-stepper BBD. It worked fine ever since and there were no warning lights to worry about either!

  • @robindavid5301
    @robindavid5301 Před 4 lety

    Should try this.

  • @robertsigley7277
    @robertsigley7277 Před 5 lety +1

    The bottom line is that this feature IS fuel efficient under the right conditions. Technology for Internal combustion engines have come such a long way from the days of manifold fed choke heaters and point style ignitions. Like many things there is a place for this technology. Is that place in a rural setting down a long country road or high on a dusty mountain trail? Perhaps not. This is reserved for city streets where stop and go is a constant and those short trips in a tight urban setting last a few hours due to high traffic volumes.
    By the way, am not a fan of start/stop but AM a fan of the channel. Great New Years Resolution video. 👍👍Really liked that one!!

  • @darcyjousset6615
    @darcyjousset6615 Před 5 lety

    In some situations stop start will save fuel. Like LA or New York. But in most other situations other then large city rush hour it’s not going to. Plus the extra ware and tare on the engine is dumb. Also places like Canada or in Alaska with the cold temperatures in winter. That would be really hard on the engine. I think the JL tazer is the way to go. Yeah it costs more but it has lots of uses. Can adjust your tire size, gear size, tire pressure warning turn off the start stop and even out on a light show. If you will be upgrading or changing tire sizes it’s handy being able to adjust your speedo yourself.

  • @johngibson3594
    @johngibson3594 Před 5 lety

    It can wear out your starter but would be good if you were stuck in traffic. I am surprised that it wouldn’t remember it was off kind of dumb especially if yo use it on a farm where say you might stop because of a obstacle your trying to navigate. Great vid enjoy your new Jeep

  • @leexgx
    @leexgx Před 5 lety +2

    Soon as you put the foot on the clutch the engine should start, by the time you pull away engine is running, does not matter if there is 20 cars waiting their engines will be running before you need to pull away
    (some cars will drop in to limp mode if you disable the start stop battery)
    But I agree stop start is annoying as some cars have zero delay on stopping the engine

    • @AndyReynen570
      @AndyReynen570 Před 5 lety +1

      I can confirm that's what happens with the manual JL if I shift into it into neutral and put my foot on the brake it turns off, but as soon as I hit the clutch it turn right back on and put it in first and drive away. I haven't found it to be much of a delay. If your foot is on the clutch the whole time at the light the JL will not turn off doesn't matter if your in gear or not.

  • @ebalmes
    @ebalmes Před 5 lety +17

    Dumb electronic features. Fuel injection is all the technology I prefer in a Jeep.

    • @Jim_woods
      @Jim_woods Před 5 lety +2

      Also a good radio.

    • @brandonrichter6910
      @brandonrichter6910 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Jim_woods a loud exhaust is all the radio required

    • @Jim_woods
      @Jim_woods Před 5 lety

      @@brandonrichter6910 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sounds good to me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 5 lety +2

      Agree, EFI is the off roaders dream come true. All those previous years of carb floats on steep hills and altitude in mountains lean/rich, temp or elect chokes etc. EFI is the ultimate. Vacuum or elect 4WD transfer case sucks, no hubs like Dumb Ass Dodge and Ford not to mention poor front hub designs that takes a good $2,200 to make right and the "automatic" this and that stuff. Really, they truly need to poll some of the Jeep owners before they push their inflammatory technology in drivetrain and functionality.

    • @Donpatch88
      @Donpatch88 Před 4 lety

      its direct injection now...

  • @wk-2
    @wk-2 Před 5 lety

    There is one more way to avoid stop/start to work but it works on vehicles with manual transmission. It's just keeping vehicle on first gear and clutch pedal pressed when standing on red lights for example. With manual transmission it engages only when you throw gearstick to neutral position when vehicle is standing.

  • @colby1610
    @colby1610 Před 5 lety

    We hate it!! We’re using the smartstopstart on our 2017 Grand Cherokee and don’t have any complaints.

  • @mikeizzano172
    @mikeizzano172 Před 5 lety +3

    Got a 2018 jk in July my first thought was to get the JL for the lighter doors and new cosmetics. But. After much research...all winter.... I stayed with jk,proven model to avoid the ess along with other electrics.your right it would make me crazier than I am already! Very pleased with my choice,good vid. I’ll be watching! !

  • @erickcartman6401
    @erickcartman6401 Před 4 lety +1

    Just got a 2019 Compass Trailhawk - my first with the stop/start feature. I HATE IT! It is probably a wash re saving fuel, but what are the consequences for the starter? I pity anyone who has lots of city driving. Thanks for the tips.

  • @emberwoodandcrafts-thomastritt

    Turns out mine was the inboard plunger! Yours was the only video that mentioned that (everyone else thus far was specific it was only the outboard one). The Engineering Explained video was good, but only focused on fuel efficiency- not wear and tear, drivability, or impact with all the additional equipment. Living in a rural area, 7 to 8 seconds to be at a complete stop doesn’t seem realistic, probably good for heavier traffic though.

  • @bigmoebigsley
    @bigmoebigsley Před 5 lety

    Auto stop/start blows goats. It was a happy day when I installed an eliminator from TRL Automotive on my F150. Best $90 I've ever spent on the truck...

  • @ed_word_6198
    @ed_word_6198 Před 2 lety

    I did the hood pin method and used JLscan app to disable the warning light on the dash. JLscan is waaaay cheaper then the Tazer and it pretty much does everything the Tazer does.

  • @KJMGarage
    @KJMGarage Před 5 lety

    When I test drove a jl that was the first thing I asked if it can be turned of permanently. My biggest problem with it is that it turns off the ac or heat when it turns the engine off.

  • @sinta4280
    @sinta4280 Před 5 lety +7

    Do you save enough fuel over the reduced lives of the battery and starter to justify the replacement costs? I doubt it. BTW It's even more annoying with a manual transmission. Thanks for the video topic!

    • @Wooskii1
      @Wooskii1 Před 5 lety +1

      They do this with the manual??? I can't believe that!

    • @metalfruttolo9855
      @metalfruttolo9855 Před 5 lety

      WoOsKii 1 yes, my dad's bmw has it and it's the dumbest shit, but at least it doesn't work if it's below 4°C outside and if you don't let go of the clutch pedal, so if you stop briefly leaving it in gear it doesn't shut off

  • @oxulucozcan4923
    @oxulucozcan4923 Před 5 lety

    It does work. Some of the lights here keeps you waiting 130 seconds (if you're just caught). In those times I stop the engine until 15 seconds mark. But I personally hate car being able to do things that I'm not telling it to do.
    So it may work, but I'm the driver of the car. Car's not driving me. Control freak? Maybe

  • @dthawk
    @dthawk Před 4 lety +1

    I hate the Start Stop feature on Jeep Wrangler. I am researching buying a 2020 and I did a test drive. If I ever decide to get rid of my 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. I will disable the Start/Stop on my new Wrangler.

  • @phantomplanet07ify
    @phantomplanet07ify Před 4 lety

    Funny seeing people talk bad about this that don’t even own or have driven one.. it’s literally not annoying I don’t even notice is. The only time you would even notice it’s working is if you have the top off and you can hear the engine shut off which is actually nice..

  • @mrmrwebb
    @mrmrwebb Před 5 lety +10

    Don't have it. Would never want it.

    • @glenm2229
      @glenm2229 Před 5 lety +2

      Agreed. Don't have it, and have zero interest in having it in any vehicle I buy. Will disable it ASAP.

  • @rickybobby7752
    @rickybobby7752 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for another great video. Does that start stop warning stay on all the time? Constantly telling what you already know?

  • @Spooky_Yellow_Doge
    @Spooky_Yellow_Doge Před 5 lety +2

    Auto start is just another example of how people don't look at the big picture. The fact the auto start is disabled when you have low fuel should alone be a hint that it doesn't save fuel. Even if it did the wear on the engine, starter, and other parts would end up costing more fuel and emissions in the manufacturing, delivery, and replacement of these parts. It blows my mind alone in the diesel world with the modern emissions, more time and money is spent repairing the systems then using the truck. Someone needs to do a study on how both auto-start and modern emissions effect the overall environmental impact.

  • @JunkworksGarage
    @JunkworksGarage Před 5 lety

    i think it depends on how long your stopped but i think it uses more gas unless your stopped for a long time either way it would suck in my opinion

  • @Wooskii1
    @Wooskii1 Před 5 lety +1

    Just wondering, how do you change gear ratios "electronically"? What do you mean?

    • @bleepinjeep
      @bleepinjeep  Před 5 lety

      Just a calculation so your speedometer is still correct.

  • @lodmstr
    @lodmstr Před 5 lety +1

    Why couldn't they program the button same way max ac works? Where the vehicle remembers that you pushed it off?

  • @krashnpa
    @krashnpa Před 5 lety

    I do a lot of driving for work and get a lot of different rental cars. I did notice auto start stop is becoming more prevalent in the rentals. It took a little bit to get used to it, but it's not going to stop me from buying a vehicle with it if I like the vehicle enough, particularly if I know I can disable the feature full time with a programmer. I had a JL rental and did not see where the delay was holding up traffic at any point, but when the light turns green , I am ready to go whatever I am driving.
    I'd be more concerned what disconnecting the BMS is doing to my batteries and charging system; if it's getting too hot or causing damage to the battery because the charging system is being limited due to lack of info from the sensor.

  • @Mutato-
    @Mutato- Před 4 lety

    I just got a 2020 Rubicon as a rental and hate the Start/Stop. Question if it was a manual Trans do they start/stop?

  • @AmericanJeeper
    @AmericanJeeper Před 5 lety

    I really don’t mind the feature on my JL. It does immediately get turned off when going off road though 🇺🇸

  • @RyanWithAviators
    @RyanWithAviators Před 5 lety +1

    I actually have two different opinions.
    1: This applies to all port fuel injection engines. I don’t like it because it puts more wear and tear on the starter. I also know it takes quite a bit of fuel to start an engine as opposed to the short amount of idling time the engine experiences during a red light.
    2: This applies to direct injection engines. I like this system because it doesn’t use the starter to start the engine. Because it has injectors directly in the cylinder, the ECM reads which cylinder is closest to Top Dead Center on the compression stroke and fires the fuel injector and the spark plug simultaneously. This is a much better way to do stop-start systems. Although the small delay in initial throttle response would still drive me crazy. From a maintenance standpoint, though,
    I would prefer the direct injection engine stop-start system or is rather have none at all, because I still doubt how much fuel it saves.

    • @zednott
      @zednott Před 5 lety +1

      also if your starter is going to fail its better that it happen when your parked somewhere and not blocking traffic !

    • @johnymatic
      @johnymatic Před 5 lety

      Cars no longer use more fuel to start than to idle. That went away with fuel injections arrival.

    • @austinbottensek9878
      @austinbottensek9878 Před 5 lety

      The starters are not standard they're designed to start the car countless times and it takes less than 10sec of idling to match 1 time starting in gas

  • @rareearthfab5511
    @rareearthfab5511 Před 5 lety +1

    Hey Matt I’m kind of like you. Not crazy about the feature at all. I imagine there has to be gas savings or why would they do it? But I don’t like the additional where in tear on the starter. Another thing I’ve noticed on vehicles that have this feature Is when sitting at a set of lights And the engine shuts off the AC gets warm!

  • @Bread996
    @Bread996 Před 5 lety +1

    The fact that when the vehicle is low on fuel the ASS is disabled so ironic. This feature helps automakers meet emissions requirements on a large scale, and makes the dealerships money replacing starters far more frequently. For the consumer it’s an inconvenience that costs us money and downtime. Absolutely stupid.

  • @lucasbrumbaugh7476
    @lucasbrumbaugh7476 Před 5 lety

    i know i hate the feature too i just watched a video for the f150 my truck starts and stops at lights they said plugging one of the 7 way trailer test lights stops it too

  • @skiddy2974
    @skiddy2974 Před 3 lety

    Hate it beyond words! Fools me every time. I might remember on my first stop but after I go to the store I get back in and am reminded I didn't push the button at the very next stop sign...

  • @justdotheconstitutionjdtc5252

    I also have a 2018 JL Sahara and I can't say that I like the start / stop feature, but after getting used to it, I don't really notice it anymore. I've not taken any measures to disable it and I don't bother to press the button to do so. I don't know if it saves gas or not, however I think it's interesting, as you mentioned, that the function is automatically disabled when you are low on fuel. If it saves gas, it seems odd that it would be disabled when you were low on fuel as that's when you would want any savings you could get. My guess is: It does not save gas, but it cuts down on carbon emissions, so they government / mfg want it in place and just say it saves gas as they think that will generate less resistance. Also, I would be interested to see any data on the cost of starter service visits in vehicles with a start / stop system intact vs. those same vehicles where it was disabled.

    • @JimmyDevere
      @JimmyDevere Před rokem

      I would start thinking about it. Most engine wear occurs at start up which is why I use Amsoil in my engines.

  • @dorsk84
    @dorsk84 Před 5 lety

    Yes it saves fuel. In the long term. But it's only really necessary where you will be in heavy traffic or you have a lot of lights. The other option is to have a delay (10 sec or user adjustable) after you stop. All I can see is extra wear on the starter.

  • @cole33333333
    @cole33333333 Před 5 lety

    I think in a big city were you have stop lights every half mile it might save some money. Does the AC keep working when it's stopped.
    That could be a problem in like Phoenix in the summer.

    • @bleepinjeep
      @bleepinjeep  Před 5 lety

      It does not... starts to get pretty warm but if it gets too warm itll start and cool off for a sec. then stop again.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 5 lety

      @@bleepinjeep LAME idea. About as lame as a new graduate student on his/her first year employed job at the EPA. Never set foot at a campsite let alone used a Jeep off the road.

  • @BluecollarOtaku
    @BluecollarOtaku Před 5 lety

    Instead of not buckling up to disable the start-stop system. Disconnect the seat belt sensor. Although the seatbelt chime might go off. An idea? Hate new cars so I’m not sure how the system works. Something to look into.

  • @zednott
    @zednott Před 5 lety +2

    the f150 disables the auto stop if you have a trailer plugged in or at least it thinks you do like a hitch mounted 3ed break light

  • @MCarberry89
    @MCarberry89 Před 4 lety

    I hate the start/stop function. I like working on vehicle mainly Jeeps but how much extra stress is the starter going through with the constant need to be used. I am going to try the hood button.

  • @jeremy8715
    @jeremy8715 Před 5 lety +5

    This new "Jeep" is an electrical nightmare!! How can this even be remotely reliable for offroad use or longevity.

    • @jhr2112
      @jhr2112 Před 5 lety

      Plenty of foreign cars have all this electrical stuff on them and never have any problems. Jeep, I'm not so sure they're not reliable in the first place. Maybe since they have a lot of foreign parts on him they'll be okay.

  • @bdavis12758
    @bdavis12758 Před 5 lety +1

    I don’t own an auto start stop equipped car but I’ve been in one and it’s annoying. If you live in a bigger city with a lot of stops, I think it could wear the starter our sooner which will not be the amount of fuel you’ll potentially be saving. I think it’s another little thing for people to be an aww over and buy the car bc of that feature..... maybe it’ll save you $5 a year in fuel if you drive a lot but I don’t think it’ll save that much

  • @KJsProjects
    @KJsProjects Před 5 lety

    Question, if the auto start/stop saves gas, why would low fuel levels turn the system off? Could it be because it doesn't?
    I personally hate the system and any fuel savings is offset by starter replacements and premature engine wear.

  • @jacknifedbl
    @jacknifedbl Před 5 lety

    Does the AC stay on when that happens? I can see a few issues with this just for a tiny amount of fuel saved....I had heard the second battery was very expensive but have not looked myself...

    • @bleepinjeep
      @bleepinjeep  Před 5 lety

      It still blows but no the ac starts getting warm.

  • @jimmyd6819
    @jimmyd6819 Před 5 lety +2

    I found the best way to avoid these modern features is roll around in a xj zj wj or tj.
    really dislike the idea of it, believe it may save fuel if your stuck on the free way in peak hour everyday for half hour or more but I do believe it wears engine bearings out faster wears out starter motors faster and shortens the life span of your battery
    horrible idea all in all on any car

  • @MrRmga420
    @MrRmga420 Před 5 lety

    When I was trying to hyper mile my Honda Civic I would put it in neutral and coast with the engine off. Especially if the red light was at the bottom of a hill. I would then wait until the light turned green to restart the engine. If the Jeep could do that, Then it’d probably make an improvement in fuel economy.

  • @lookitsben5119
    @lookitsben5119 Před 5 lety +6

    how much does it shorten the life of the starter motor to have to start the motor every time the vehicle stops? It's a lot easier for most people to put a little extra fuel in than to change the starter. also, it's not like chrysler/fiat/dodge/jeep is concerned too much about fuel savings or they wouldn't put out those heavy boats.

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye Před 5 lety +1

      @jjw3579 If you can't confirm that the same grade of starter is on these Jeeps, you don't have an argument.

  • @f33d13ack
    @f33d13ack Před rokem

    Mine sorta stopped working all by itself, I noticed it about 6 months ago or so, I checked all the wires and everything seems connected and fine. It just says "stop/start not ready" all the time. Mentions nothing about charging or anything like that. I wish I knew what keeps it disabled.

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken19700 Před 5 lety

    I hate it in my 2017 focus. My 2004 truck is older than the a.s.s. garbage. I haven't tried yet but I'm sure you can pop the switch out and shunt it with a small piece of wire. I don't know what that will do to the warranty or if it will pass inspection though.

  • @greghull3189
    @greghull3189 Před 4 lety

    I dislike the auto start/stop on my 2018 JL Jeep Wrangler. It's a major annoyance to me and not a fan of the delay on the restart at signal lights as you mentioned. Do we really have enough data on how well the starter will hold up with the constant starting?

  • @roby14
    @roby14 Před 4 lety

    Hi. What messages if any do you get when you disconnect the intelegent battery sensor?

    • @jenn1228801
      @jenn1228801 Před 4 lety

      roby14 I didn’t get a message but it also didn’t work

  • @jamesmcdonald7124
    @jamesmcdonald7124 Před 3 lety +1

    Auto stop start is stupid and a pain in the ass

  • @willpayne7726
    @willpayne7726 Před 5 lety +1

    Hate stop start. I believe the only way it would save fuel is if you are always in traffic. Ex. I use to live in a pretty big city and my job consisted of a ton of driving and I was in bumper to bumper traffic almost every other day. There were many times I only moved a few yards every couple hours. But you could shut your own engine down in these cases

    • @BroJerHWG
      @BroJerHWG Před 5 lety

      idling in traffic is a whole lot more tolerable with air conditioning and heating ....

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben Před 5 lety

    are you sure there isn't an option in the overhead controls like the older jeeps had, where you check gas mileage and turn on/off auto headlights and auto lock functions?

  • @dhscts
    @dhscts Před 5 lety

    What no steering wheel dance to disable.? The auto brakes on my new standard trans JK was very hard on the clutch. Just about burned out the clutch, before we learned what was going on and how to disable it. The long clutch pedal stroke is also a pain for off road.

  • @correfe
    @correfe Před 5 lety +1

    I hate the Auto Stop Start. I don't think it saves much gas either.
    It also doesn't work very well in the city when you get a bit of traffic. When you are in traffic it works the first time, but if you only move a little it doesn't give enough time to recharge the battery, so there really is no difference if its working or not.

  • @dennisneu8864
    @dennisneu8864 Před 4 lety

    I hate the auto stop / start feature. First time I had a rental that had it every stop light drove me crazy. I bought the Tazer Mini to disable it on my new JL.

  • @alexhalt4979
    @alexhalt4979 Před 3 lety

    I've never owned a vehicle with the auto start- stop, but I've driven a few rentals that had it and do not like it.
    Does it save fuel? Probably some, but realistically not a lot. That and how is it not murder on the starter?

  • @TwoFeatherChannel
    @TwoFeatherChannel Před 4 lety +1

    1) I don't like it, I forget to press it sometimes.
    2) No I do Not think the short time the engine is off really is any significant gas saver.
    3) You are using your Starter, Battery and Alternator more than usual, which puts more strain on your Engine.
    4) So how is the Savings working for ya.

  • @jeffreyjones3861
    @jeffreyjones3861 Před 5 lety +6

    Hate auto everything. I want manual control of my vehicle

    • @donewhiskey
      @donewhiskey Před 5 lety

      You want to manually run every piston, or are you going to let the crank automatically pump those?

  • @tfrye008
    @tfrye008 Před 5 lety

    It’s handy in some areas we drive as we travel. I do have mine set to off via my TD2. Save gas? Who knows. Not why I own a Jeep. 😀

  • @TwoAMBlacktop
    @TwoAMBlacktop Před 5 lety +6

    Seems like battery and starter life will be compromised. Also what if the starter fails at the stop light? I think I’ll just stick with my old vehicles.

    • @profitlemon5004
      @profitlemon5004 Před 5 lety

      stop start vehicles use the alternator to start

    • @TwoAMBlacktop
      @TwoAMBlacktop Před 5 lety

      Profit Lemon Not the JL. That’s why they have a “Heavy Duty Starter” as stated in the owner’s manual.

  • @BroJerHWG
    @BroJerHWG Před 5 lety

    is this a required feature for the new Jeep Wrangler?... haven't looked at Jeep site yet but will want to avoid it if I can... also... I own a 99tj manual shift 4.0.... I can disable the clutch engage start feature from the fuse panel..... can you disable this miserable start stop feature thru the fuse panel?...

    • @bleepinjeep
      @bleepinjeep  Před 5 lety +1

      It is required, the ways listed in the video are the only ones I know of to turn off the ess permanently

  • @steppababynupe
    @steppababynupe Před 2 lety

    so basically the A! indicator is fine. ?

  • @MajorHolyNight
    @MajorHolyNight Před 5 lety

    How much gas is it really burning idling the engine? It can't be much if hardly any at all.

  • @bdavis12758
    @bdavis12758 Před 5 lety

    I wish they made vehicles like the old days. My daily is an 80 k10 with 33”s and a 5.3. Idc about the fuel bc if I was, I’d drive my wife’s 18’ corolla. Everything is simple on my truck, everything works except the oil pressure and only when it feels like it. But buy a gauge and it’ll work

  • @Garth2011
    @Garth2011 Před 5 lety +1

    Answer 1. NO. 2. Saves fuel, yes, but over a long period of time and at a cost to the owner so it could be an added expense (second battery replacement, starter wear replacement, flex plate wear etc.) that would exceed the fuel savings. Add up all the sold ESS Jeeps on the road, does it save enough to make it worthy? No one receives that disclosure from Jeep or EPA. Does it create more accidents as drivers delay their take off from signs/signals? How will it blend with occasional drivers such as borrowed, rental car etc.? How does it affect off-road driving? This would apply to folks that go beyond a dirt road. Imagine, you climbing a steep short hill and come to a quick stop just before cresting the top to see navigational needs and the engine shuts off. There's way more scenarios that this ESS will be more of a risk than a full filled feature.
    And, to disable it should be done by Jeep if the owner doesn't want it so the vehicle will run and display dash lights as it should. I'm sure they can with their software. Then, get a refund on the ESS system cost that came with the JL as it wasn't an option, it was a pest.

    • @jamesmcvey5025
      @jamesmcvey5025 Před 5 lety

      It is added to the jeep to qualify for new government guidelines. It does have heavier duty starter to hold up for all the extra starts. But Jeep does have the button to shut it off (designed that way for off roading). Be glad you have that because all other vehicles will be eventually required to have A.S.S. and you won't be able to turn it off. However, if you are too lazy to hit the button everytime, put gear shift into manual shift and it will disable start/stop feature. So far that has worked in every vehicle I have driven with the feature.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 5 lety

      @@jamesmcvey5025 It won't make it as an always on feature in off road vehicles. There will a few incidents where the engine turns off when it was being used by someone who doesn't know to turn it off or that its even a feature and they could be injured etc. Time will tell. Like the Government is making them better, I'd disagree for now. Maybe the Gov should figure these things out first then pass the idea onto auto makers vs. force them to come up with something that they approve yet don't fully know the affects.

  • @BEASTProjects
    @BEASTProjects Před 4 lety

    I hate it & I don't think it gives any added fuel economy. I tried these methods & it unfortunately disables the remote start feature if equipped.

  • @baron24601
    @baron24601 Před 5 lety

    It probably saves fuel city driving with long waits at stop lights.
    They annoy me a lot driving. I always think there's something wrong with the vehicle.
    I think the primary reason they're putting them on is to wear out the engines so they can sell more cars. If this was not the case they'd also have electric oil pumps to keep oil moving when the engine shuts off.

  • @dembrowi_n_c.5111
    @dembrowi_n_c.5111 Před 5 lety +1

    Increases fuel economy by about 5%. not that great if you ask me. doesnt really damage the engine either since its not a cold start every time, but I bet we'll begin to see some starter failures soon.

  • @lionelhernandez34
    @lionelhernandez34 Před 5 lety +3

    Balogne in my opinion, should I ever get a JL or any vehicle with this feature it'll be my first upgrade to disable this. Guess I'm an "old timer" great video Matt