This Gorgeous Lotus Evora Has SEVERE Toyota Issues

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  • čas přidán 24. 08. 2024
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Komentáře • 808

  • @TheCarCareNut
    @TheCarCareNut Před 7 měsíci +285

    Nice car! Not familiar with the Evora itself but being a 2GR around that time period there was a wave of 2 electrical gremlin causing things that may be what’s going on with this one. First the ABS ecu shorts out the can network and usually it either kills the engine or everything stops responding. Other thing are some of the junction connectors that the can network pass through especially ones coming from a terminating resistor would have loose pins and intermittently have an open circuit. I commend you for sticking with diagnosis instead of the parts cannon. Try disconnecting the module method when the problem happens especially the ABS usually easy to access on most Toyota models doesn’t look like it on the evora. Another symptom of the can network short is gauges would drop and come back up. Best wishes and happy new year.

    • @NavalWarfare1
      @NavalWarfare1 Před 7 měsíci +35

      If anyone might know, it’s you. You taught me TONS about my Toyotas. Thanks AMD, and a happy & healthy new year to you and yours.

    • @JJF1973
      @JJF1973 Před 7 měsíci +7

      I second that!

    • @H0neyGh0st
      @H0neyGh0st Před 7 měsíci +19

      A crossover episode between these two channels, especially on a car like an evora, might actually make my brain explode.

    • @russmanhi
      @russmanhi Před 7 měsíci +7

      TCCN and Daniel-san teaming up?!! THAT would be supercool!

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Před 7 měsíci +4

      It's a lovely car indeed, I've driven a couple of Evoras on the track and they are fantastic - BUT - who specs one with an automatic? An American I who can't drive a manual I guess? That just ruins it for me sorry.

  • @Itstime2029
    @Itstime2029 Před 7 měsíci +218

    I had an identical lotus. Similar problem. Turned out to be a loose ground wire to the ECU. When the engine got hot, the loose ground would vibrate and loose contact.
    I remember because of how pissed I was after 3 weeks of the car being at the dealer. The mechanic found the loose ground when he started removing the harness to replace it

    • @MrHamlet
      @MrHamlet Před 7 měsíci +13

      I came here to say this. Had the same issue.

    • @SiCrewe
      @SiCrewe Před 7 měsíci +8

      Sounds legit'.
      No experience with the Evora but I DO have quite a bit of experience with V6 conversions (using the Camry V6) for the Toyota MR2 and problems with those - everything from non-starts to misfires - would often end up being a bad earth.
      Due to the nature of an engine-swap, people would test-fit things and then, if everything looked okay, they'd tighten up all the bolts and that's when earths get missed or just nipped up with a pair of pliers.
      You could check continuity with a multimeter and it'd give a reasonable reading so you'd assume the earth was okay but then you'd undo the bolt, give the various crimps and post a rub with wire wool, put it back together and tighten the nut up with a socket and the fault would be gone.

    • @CJ-ty8sv
      @CJ-ty8sv Před 7 měsíci +6

      Yep grounds bad grounds can wreak havoc, especially on Bonded chassis cars like the Evora. and cars that have long distances between the Battery and low voltage equipment (basically all the power train controls) and high amperage equipment too. Many cars have had issues simply because of bad grounds and many have burnt to the ground too because of bad grounds, especially MR2's as SiCrewe probably knows.

    • @SiCrewe
      @SiCrewe Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@CJ-ty8sv Good point regarding the bonded chassis.
      Presumably, Lotus fitted earth-straps to link various parts of the chassis and ensure there's a good earth all around the vehicle?
      Just to add to my previous post, you CAN'T just rely on a multimeter to test earths.
      When the car's parked a loose earth can be making good contact and you'd never know there's a problem but when the car's moving there'll be vibrations which cause intermittent faults and causes chaos for the electronics.
      I guess, on the Evora, it might be a good idea to (temporarily) run lengths of wire directly from the -ve battery terminal to various earth points, take the car for a test-drive and if the problem doesn't appear you know there's an earth fault somewhere between the battery and wherever you've got the temporary wire connected.

    • @CJ-ty8sv
      @CJ-ty8sv Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@SiCrewe Yes, it is likely that Lotus does have straps to link sections together but they are still at the disadvantage with the Aluminum chassis though.
      While aluminum, generally speaking is a pretty good conductor (though not as good as steel), Aluminum oxide is an insulator and being that exposed raw aluminum starts to form an oxide layer within minutes of being exposed to oxygen, surface contact linking straps have their limits.
      Now I'm sure that they likely used straps that have some sort of teeth that bite into the material that break through the oxide layer that forms but if the fastener attaching the link becomes lose enough at any point that can allow air to get down in where the teeth bit in, an oxide layer will start to form, thus rendering that strap basically ineffective.
      And yes, I 100% agree, running temporary wires to ground (earth) components can be a good way to determine any issues in regards to grounding / earthing.

  • @MyViewToronto
    @MyViewToronto Před 7 měsíci +43

    Lotus using Toyota engines is one of the smartest moves by Lotus.

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Shame TOyota never fully bought Lotus.

    • @Milkmans_Son
      @Milkmans_Son Před 7 měsíci +4

      Toyota using Yamaha engines wasn't a bad move, either.

    • @-ac-8296
      @-ac-8296 Před 7 měsíci +7

      and yet the Toyota parts are the problem with the Lotus...

    • @Milkmans_Son
      @Milkmans_Son Před 7 měsíci

      @@-ac-8296 Computer controls are Lotus

    • @-ac-8296
      @-ac-8296 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Milkmans_Son did you watch the video?

  • @clardy01
    @clardy01 Před 7 měsíci +308

    Scotty Kilmer is smiling somewhere in Tennessee right now 😆

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 Před 7 měsíci +79

      And drunk. Guaranteed.

    • @10RRASK
      @10RRASK Před 7 měsíci

      And making love to a 1994 Celica

    • @VincentVader
      @VincentVader Před 7 měsíci +12

      @@joshuagibson2520 you're drunk

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 Před 7 měsíci +49

      @@VincentVader naaah. But I am fixin to smoke one. Scotty is a drunk. Literally, a drunk.

    • @josueramirez8300
      @josueramirez8300 Před 7 měsíci +28

      @@joshuagibson2520dont forget crack. That man has definitely has to be high on something

  • @TheQuestionableGarage
    @TheQuestionableGarage Před 7 měsíci +22

    Such a cool and awful car all at once! Glad I was able to give a little guidance on it, sometimes the tiniest bit insight can be the trick to finding the solution. That’s why I always say We are smarter than Me.

  • @scheusselmensch5713
    @scheusselmensch5713 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Over many decades of troubleshooting electrical (and getting pretty good at it), it continuously amazed me how often electrical problems were actually mechanical problems. By mechanical, I mean loose nuts and bolts on grounds and positive junctions, and individual pins/various connectors that didn't make a secure "mechanical" joint. As far as actual electronic components actually losing their smoke, that hardly ever happened. Also, if someone had been there before me poking around I could count on a half dozen or so pin receptacles being buggered up by having a pick shoved in them thereby assuring a crap connection.

    • @TougeSolo
      @TougeSolo Před 7 měsíci +2

      I worked in the fork truck industry for a while, and the tech's I worked with always said "oh, it's the battery causing this issues." 1 out of 20 times they may have been right. Reality was they were just to lazy to properly diag something. Drove me crazy because working for a large plant, you'd get the same trucks back every week or even the next day for the exact same issue.

  • @DoNotEatPoo
    @DoNotEatPoo Před 7 měsíci +25

    I love CAN bus. It's the best thing ever invented. It makes everything expensive and finicky as vehicles age. I especially love it when a simple headlight module jams up the communications on the entire system throwing every code in the book and forcing vehicle into limp mode. Cars are basically made to be throw away items these days.

    • @juchou2983
      @juchou2983 Před 6 měsíci

      Automotive engineers realized simply having CAN was not enough so most modern cars have LIN, Ethernet, CAN-FD, MOST as well as CAN..

    • @jacktheaviator4938
      @jacktheaviator4938 Před 4 měsíci

      I am sorry, but the CAN bus actually makes the system significantly more simple. If you understand how it works, and how to diagnose it, the system is far more reliable than older systems. But the "it needs points and a carburetor" crowd is never gonna be happy...sorry boomer, but the world has moved on.

    • @stephenfazekas5054
      @stephenfazekas5054 Před 4 měsíci

      If you think can bus causes issues imagine the fun it would be to have 6x the wiring

    • @jacktheaviator4938
      @jacktheaviator4938 Před 4 měsíci

      @@stephenfazekas5054that's what all of the "carb and points" boomers don't understand. CAN bus makes the system drastically more simple. But they don't understand how it works, and they aren't willing to learn. I actually first encountered it flying long range fixed wing RC planes. The modern flight controllers use CAN to communicate with all of the sensors used to fly the plane. The previous generation of electronics used analog signals and weighed 10X.

    • @stephenfazekas5054
      @stephenfazekas5054 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jacktheaviator4938 exactly and many of the issues are due to the manufacturer and not the can bus. All modules have a range of voltage/ signal pattern range thats within spec, they should program module’s to ignore out of range signals instead of going crazy. Of course a module thats hard grounding out the entire wire run will prevent every module on that wire run from communicating. People dont realize that before can bus something as simple as the tail lights required hundreds of feet of wire , relays and flashers.And now a tail light only needs power and signal and let the microcontroller figure it out. And on the same signal cable you can also run the trunk release and back up sensors

  • @jeffboyer8214
    @jeffboyer8214 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Wire by wire .
    He said down shift.
    A key factor.
    Engine movement.
    Pulling on a harness.
    Or transmission computer getting disconnected or open ground.
    Just a few thoughts I have.
    If you have access to a dyno, you could see it in a shop other than on the road, but it doesn’t simulate road movement well.
    That is a nice car, for sure.

    • @CJ-ty8sv
      @CJ-ty8sv Před 7 měsíci +1

      My money is on it being a ground issue. Grounds can wreak havoc on any car but its especially true on Bonded chassis cars and cars where the battery is rather far from ground sensitive equipment (two things the Evora has working against it).

  • @nigel.w
    @nigel.w Před 7 měsíci +108

    It was sad to see Magic Mike depart, but I am constantly impressed by Daniel-San and Grimes, and the very methodical approach at Omega. This team seems to work particularly well together. And of course that is all a reflection of the Wizard, his management, his expertise/experience and his vision, along with the mutual respect that is clearly evident.

    • @safffff1000
      @safffff1000 Před 7 měsíci +13

      How does the wiz ever find such talented people?

    • @johnhufnagel
      @johnhufnagel Před 7 měsíci

      @@safffff1000 IIRC, in all 3 cases they contacted him and wanted to join his shop.

    • @scott8919
      @scott8919 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@safffff1000 He's the Wizard. After so many years working in an industry, I'm sure it's combination of knowing what to look for and getting a good feel for their personality and problem solving skills.

    • @will89687
      @will89687 Před 7 měsíci +14

      @@safffff1000Maybe they find him because of his reputation!

    • @lincolnmarklt
      @lincolnmarklt Před 7 měsíci +1

      Ok

  • @carywhozawhastit2024
    @carywhozawhastit2024 Před 7 měsíci +33

    This goes to show great diagnostics make great shops. You guys amaze me with your hard work and dedication!

    • @CB12345
      @CB12345 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I agree, they are doing a better job at repairing and fixing cars than many shops out here, especially car dealership service shops.

  • @redspecial2000
    @redspecial2000 Před 7 měsíci +89

    The old joke- what does Lotus stand for? Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.

    • @chrismayer3919
      @chrismayer3919 Před 7 měsíci +1

      FWIW at least it’s a GOOD looking pile of scrap iron…

    • @SiCrewe
      @SiCrewe Před 7 měsíci +4

      I came REALLY close to buying a Lotus Esprit back in the 1990s, when they were pretty cheap.
      Put down a deposit on the car after work one night, went out for lunch the next day and on the way back to work I realised I was following "my" Lotus along the road (turned out they'd taken it to a local detailing place to get it cleaned for me) when it slowed down for a junction, the reversing light came on momentarily, the car skidded sideways and then coasted to a stop.
      Bye bye gearbox and/or differential.
      Gave the mechanic a ride back to the dealership and he swore he didn't select reverse but he DID notice that he had to help the shifter move from 5th to 4th gear so it might've been that the linkage broke so gearbox couldn't move across the gate, thus selecting reverse (straight back from 5th) instead of 4th (across and back from 5th).
      Offered to buy the car at a reduced price but the dealership refused.
      Later on, I heard that they scrapped the car and parted it out instead of repairing it. 😞
      On the bright side, I ended up buying an E39 BMW 540 and that car was a TANK.
      One of the nicest, most reliable, most capable cars I've ever owned.

    • @freddunaway2777
      @freddunaway2777 Před 7 měsíci +1

      An alternative when discussing what can break on a Lotus: Lots Of Things, Unusually Serious.

    • @mrlong6267
      @mrlong6267 Před 7 měsíci +2

      FORD: fix or repair daily..lol

    • @chrismayer3919
      @chrismayer3919 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@mrlong6267 DODGE; Dad’s Old Dead Garage Experiment 🤣

  • @mikethompson2593
    @mikethompson2593 Před 7 měsíci +13

    The only common problem with the camry with the same engine is the alternator failing causing random problems.

  • @VincentVader
    @VincentVader Před 7 měsíci +6

    Who'd buy a Lotus with an Automatic? If it was a manual, no issue.

    • @604h22a
      @604h22a Před 7 měsíci

      Less issues *

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@604h22a manuals are far less failure prone, as long as you can use a clutch properly.

    • @dailytherapy7597
      @dailytherapy7597 Před měsícem

      Many don’t want the expensive clutch replacement. The auto isn’t bad in the evora .

  • @bassplayer2011ify
    @bassplayer2011ify Před 7 měsíci +3

    Oh, Lotus never change. The vanity plate also gave me a chuckle “My Prius”.

  • @1183newman
    @1183newman Před 7 měsíci +4

    I had one of these and the plug on the throttle body from the harness often comes loose due to how tight the harness is (no slack). It would cause the car to go in limp mode and throw codes. Easy fix to just push the connector on tight and remove codes. Zip tieing the connectors on sorted the issue essentially and it is a common problem. Not exactly the same issue but if it is connected to the harness then check all the connectors make sure they are on fully and not coming loose.

  • @markphinney3152
    @markphinney3152 Před 7 měsíci +62

    Hope you guys can get it figured out! Will watch for an update. and looking forward to driving my 2013 Lotus Evora S *manual* transmission in the spring! 😂

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yum yum!

    • @mescko
      @mescko Před 7 měsíci +1

      Why would you want a Lotus with any other transmission?

    • @dth2brny121
      @dth2brny121 Před 7 měsíci

      This Toyota issue is the main reason why I'd be better off with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION, above all else! 💯

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@mescko - I've had tons of sports cars with manuals (Miata, Corvette, 911, 928S, MX-6, BMWs, etc) and I'm tired of shifting, that's why. Dream car right now is a new 911 C4S with PDK and PTS.

  • @ianmontgomery7534
    @ianmontgomery7534 Před 7 měsíci +4

    We had a problem with a Ford territory here in Australia and the Canbus was putting it in limp mode when you pushed the accelerator hard, We gave up on it and gave it to the local ford dealer. The way they fixed it was to replace the plugs and the coil packs. They couldn't explain what was wrong but it was the second they fixed in the same way - just as well the same tech was still there from the first one six years ago!

  • @MrMeoow91
    @MrMeoow91 Před 7 měsíci +6

    the first mistake was buying it as an Auto…

  • @Vincent-ke5zn
    @Vincent-ke5zn Před 7 měsíci +4

    I really love and respect that you and your mechanics care about customers and their vehicles like doctors care about their patients

  • @phaphaphooey
    @phaphaphooey Před 7 měsíci +4

    I had an identical Evora right down to the exterior color (Nightfall Blue) and had these same issues. The wiring harness is known to cause these issues and needs to be replaced or it will eventually render your automatic Evora undrivable. Thankfully mine was done under warranty as it is a terrible job.

  • @herrunsinn774
    @herrunsinn774 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Well, that was 15+ minutes of video that reached the same conclusion as the previous shop... "We think it's the wiring harness, but we are not sure." How was this any different than what the customer experienced at the previous shop? 🤔

  • @Zuiyo1974
    @Zuiyo1974 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I appreciate the constructive attitude and pride for your work. Please continue setting these excellent examples for others who don't take their job seriously enough.

  • @MrPabsUk
    @MrPabsUk Před 7 měsíci +6

    I had an Evora about 10 years ago, was wonderful from a driving perspective, & practical, as I managed to get 3 friends home from the pub in it!

    • @ischafer567
      @ischafer567 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Poor friends who had to get in the back. There is so little space in there, you have to chop of your legs to sit there. 😂

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah, when I think of practical, the first vehicle that comes to mind is a Lotus.

    • @MrPabsUk
      @MrPabsUk Před 7 měsíci

      Well, compared to an Elise it is@@OMGWTFLOLSMH , my Dad brain can justify it as a "family vehicle" 😁

  • @FSAPOJake
    @FSAPOJake Před 7 měsíci +11

    Just goes to show. Even with a Toyota powertrain, you aren't avoiding British exotic car maintenance costs and headaches with one of these things.

    • @unclefista
      @unclefista Před 7 měsíci +8

      Yeah, you're getting Japanese replacement costs though, luckily.

    • @chappell721
      @chappell721 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@unclefista not entirely true. Drivetrain pieces are going to be Toyota obviously, but Lotus developed their own engine management. Sensors, coils, etc. are cheap if you can get the equivalent Toyota part, things like an engine harness or an ECM are going to be $$$. I had a friend with an Elise. He ended up selling it after 6 months or so because of all the electrical issues he was running into.

    • @fleurdewin7958
      @fleurdewin7958 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@unclefista Partially true . if you ask Wizard , I bet he will charge European exotic car labour rates instead of Japanese/American cars.

    • @butt_cheeks269
      @butt_cheeks269 Před 7 měsíci +2

      They should have done what Toyota did and use BMW parts...

    • @kris8742
      @kris8742 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@butt_cheeks269 Out of the frying pan into the fire.

  • @McBeamer94
    @McBeamer94 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Didn't even know Toyotas have problems, tbh! 🤣

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Sadly even Toyotas have issues - one being the dreaded variable valve timing VVT gear on some Camrys and Corollas - which needless to say - is pain to replace.

    • @imunknownsource8696
      @imunknownsource8696 Před 7 měsíci

      BMW = hold my electronic....

  • @kobra6660
    @kobra6660 Před 7 měsíci +11

    L - lots
    O - of
    T - trouble
    U - usually
    S - serious

  • @deangiacopassi1951
    @deangiacopassi1951 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Looking forward to seeing the final diagnostics and fix. Great cars. I think my next sports/GT car will be an automatic, I have too much pain in my left leg to do much shifting.

  • @604h22a
    @604h22a Před 7 měsíci +4

    Happy new year wizard and the folks at omega 👏

  • @Schooner316
    @Schooner316 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love the "My Prius" LP. That is HILARIOUS!

  • @ImpalaSS08
    @ImpalaSS08 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The Wizards bill will be $8000 too with all the “diagnosis”. 😂😂😂

  • @davidedwards4125
    @davidedwards4125 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I have a Lotus Elise, had it 23 years. Trashed round many a race track, many Alpine mountain passes, pile of (very amateur) race trophies. Many many amazing memories. As a Brit lotus is just “the” brand of all time, bond, F1, etc

    • @franklast7955
      @franklast7955 Před 7 měsíci

      The Toyota 4cy allowed you all those miles

    • @davidedwards4125
      @davidedwards4125 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@franklast7955 sorry, should have said mine is an S1 so it’s got a Rover K Series engine. Never sold in the US, notorious for HGF but mine has mods to reduce risk and is 160 spec.

    • @drew699
      @drew699 Před 7 měsíci

      @@franklast7955K series is Rover engine.

  • @dodgedemon840
    @dodgedemon840 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I got to work at a dealership who bought out a small lotus dealership,only had like 6 left,we had a lotus S 6spd manual supercharged,crazy fun

  • @Friss213
    @Friss213 Před 7 měsíci +4

    You can get the Lotus 20/20 software for $20 for an hour to scan and read the codes across all the systems and erase them. Its a basic version so it doesn't give you as much information as the dealer version but it can talk to the Lotus specific systems.
    Also the wiring harness for these is pretty well known to cause issues as well so that is where my money would be (and was once you said it was a 2013 IPS)

  • @mxss115
    @mxss115 Před 7 měsíci +10

    I briefly drove a 2010 scion Xb that had that exact same issue. It was driving fine, then one day it would just drop to neutral and it would not go back into drive till after disconnecting the battery. That was the 4 pot with a 4 speed auto, but very similar issue.

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Someone else mentioned it being the ABS module taking down the CAN bus. I would not be at all surprised if both of these had the same ABS module in them (likely different part numbers though if the mounting/connector is different).

    • @galo911
      @galo911 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Maybe a bad cap in the transmission module ?

  • @mattl6584
    @mattl6584 Před 7 měsíci +24

    The problem is the owner decided to get a Lotus with an automatic transmission, which is sacrilegious. I guess some of the blame will be on Lotus as well.

    • @kelechithots
      @kelechithots Před 7 měsíci +3

      If I had my way most cars would have manual transmission with only '' special editions" using automatic. I think the recent extensive manufacture of cars with automatic transmission is to have EASY built in OBSOLESCENCE.

    • @JStryker7
      @JStryker7 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Have you seen the clutch replacement job?

    • @MikeL-FL
      @MikeL-FL Před 7 měsíci

      @@kelechithots Better to have built in obsolescence in the future then to buy a new car with a transmission thats already obsolete. Thats what manuals are in 2023/2024; antiquated and obsolete. You cannot outshift a computer.

    • @tacomas9602
      @tacomas9602 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@MikeL-FL that's not the point for many of us. My tacoma takes a good amount of time between shifts especially with the 2TR rev hang and a tired clunky R155F.
      BUT, I LOVE driving it. It's like a tractor. Dependable and stout.
      Auto scum!

    • @EntropyExists
      @EntropyExists Před 7 měsíci

      @@MikeL-FL Nah. 5 speed 1994 Toyota Pickup. Much more fun to drive.

  • @ngtflyer
    @ngtflyer Před 7 měsíci +7

    Great video! Yep, Lotus has been using Toyota engines and transmissions for many years.
    I LOVE the license plate! Got a kick out of it.

    • @marcuscoquer5958
      @marcuscoquer5958 Před 7 měsíci

      Also the first Toyota twin cams were copied from Lotus.

  • @lyfandeth
    @lyfandeth Před 7 měsíci +4

    Saying that the problem is either in the harness or a module is really like saying "the problem is the car."
    A harness is never simply bad. It is just dozens of wires and connedtions and any one of them can be burned, shorted, loose, corroded, or a whole bundle of them could be pinched.
    The problem is the full week of labor it would take to test all that, so throwinv a whole new harness at it can make sense.
    But if it is a module, or a connection to a module, that still accomplishes nothing.
    Which is how lemons and auction sales wind up selling mystery cars. Frustrating as all hell. And a reason why vintage cars with no electronics are still beloved.

    • @Milkmans_Son
      @Milkmans_Son Před 7 měsíci

      saying it's a toyota problem is even less accurate.

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH Před 7 měsíci

      Harnesses have been known to go bad. Google, Mercedes biodegradable wiring harness 1991-1996. They pretty much all disintegrated over the years.

    • @Milkmans_Son
      @Milkmans_Son Před 7 měsíci

      @@OMGWTFLOLSMH How do you even replace a harness? Depin the old one and install existing wires in the new one? 500 splices? Either way, that won't help the Mercedes you just described.

  • @Chilicharger665
    @Chilicharger665 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Imagine buying such a nice Lotus with an auto transmission...

  • @markboyce1001
    @markboyce1001 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Did you check the transmission module, they get a short in them,it will work perfect than it will produce a short, knock it out of gear,to reset, you disconnect the power, battery, it will reset and work perfect, as you drive , it will produce a short in the electronics, and will throw the transmission back in neutral, and will not shift until you disconnect the battery, power, to reset the module, we seen these replace in those years of Toyotas.

  • @jake_of_the_jungle9840
    @jake_of_the_jungle9840 Před 7 měsíci +5

    This is still one of the few exotics that is slightly obtainable by regular guys. I used to want a 308 or 355/348 when they were 45-65k but now they are close to 100k and for that money I just don’t see how it’s worth it

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před 7 měsíci

      They're fantastic, too. Read EVO Car of the Year 2009 to see what it beat. Hint: amazing cars were bested.

  • @barrygoldwasser5449
    @barrygoldwasser5449 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Didn't the other garage diagnose that already...?

    • @rjolly87
      @rjolly87 Před 7 měsíci +2

      More like a diaguess.
      Not knocking the wizard, but I would guess that he already has more diagnostic time on the bill than the last shop did.

    • @SquiggyWigginz
      @SquiggyWigginz Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@rjolly87 5 months, 2 shops. Wizard is third. Wife's car.

  • @Santoshlv426
    @Santoshlv426 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Lotus did undertake internal engine development as opposed to 100% buyouts with the Esprits of the 70s, 80s and the final esprit of 1998 with the latter being an original Jenson.
    The Esprit engines were heavily developed by lotus and the esprits were lotus at its best. By far the 1983 was a stunner !

  • @tashriquekarriem8865
    @tashriquekarriem8865 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Man that’s a good looking automobile ❤❤

  • @marvinmartian7281
    @marvinmartian7281 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Happy new year Mr Wizard

  • @jimmyjimjims7483
    @jimmyjimjims7483 Před 7 měsíci +6

    You've probably got a bad drive-by-wire throttle body sensor, more than likely the gas pedal assembly itself (it COULD also be the throttle body itself) but my money is on that drive-by-wire pedal.

  • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
    @godchi1dvonsteuben770 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It's gotta be bad code in the ECU. The clutch actuator(s) control module(s) is (are) glitching, and that means the ECU firmware needs an update patch so it can properly control the clutch actuator(s) control module(s)... Contact Lotus, they should have a patch you can download to reflash the ECU.
    Btw, no Google involved, that was off the top of my head, tyvm 😎

  • @MarkoVukovic0
    @MarkoVukovic0 Před 7 měsíci +1

    With such low miles you'd think Lotus would come to the party on this issue, that's barely run in 🤣

  • @Blowinshiddup
    @Blowinshiddup Před 7 měsíci +1

    You know what? My 2006 Pontiac Vibe (Toyota Matrix rebadge) was an AMAZING machine. It survived 450,000km as my ride for going up to the mine site west of town. Its demise was basically due to lack of decent snowplows, trying to go 50km in 6 inches of heavy wet crap... the trans got too warm a few times. At least it wasn't disguised as a "supercar"...

  • @yiyangcheng
    @yiyangcheng Před 7 měsíci +2

    Elliott alvis would love this license plate lol

  • @isaacsorensen8377
    @isaacsorensen8377 Před 7 měsíci +2

    My dad's girlfriend has a Highlander with the same engine and transmission.
    300k+ miles and still running like new.
    Once you get the problems fixed, will drive for ages.

    • @imunknownsource8696
      @imunknownsource8696 Před 7 měsíci

      Dude.... This is lotus....
      Sure that thing use Toyota engine but another part take from another manufacturers.....
      Owned by Geely company...

  • @user-xn1ww4dp3b
    @user-xn1ww4dp3b Před 4 měsíci

    I used to be a bus driver here in England and we had a similar problem with one of our Scania buses. It turned out the problem was a screw. They decided to fit infotainment systems to the buses and when they fitted the video to this bus they screwed the brackets to a bulkhead and one of the screws touched a wiring harness to the gearbox. Over time the screw contacted the wire causing it to short intermittently. It took Scania nearly a year to find the fault.

  • @garyleibitzke4166
    @garyleibitzke4166 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Not only Lotus, but the older Jeeps sourced parts from many sources. It wasn't uncommon for the same year/model to use different distributors and alternators. They also used a Buick V6 and a Pontiac I4. In many models they also used GM steering columns.

    • @davidbeckenbaugh9598
      @davidbeckenbaugh9598 Před 7 měsíci

      The parts bin. Right. 3 years ago, I was getting into my mail truck at the post office when I saw something 'odd'. I was thinking "Naw. That can't be. The odds of a match are just incredible..." So I took out my ring of keys, selected the key to the ignition on my 2006 Dodge Cummins truck and slipped it in. I did not even have to 'jiggle' the key. It turned with 'ordinary' resistance, an EXACT match. A Chrysler ignition switch in an S10 derivative GM sourced truck. And so amazing that my truck key matched it. Now, what are the odds on that?

    • @DerrickOil
      @DerrickOil Před 7 měsíci +1

      😂 AMC=all makes combined

  • @grahamhaynes7658
    @grahamhaynes7658 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Punishment for ordering it with automatic transmission.

  • @michaelpickarts7683
    @michaelpickarts7683 Před 7 měsíci +23

    I'm assuming how much of a expensive frustrating headache owning a collaboration vehicle with 2 or more import car manufacturers can be. Beautiful car tho!

  • @user-sf7kl9uh7k
    @user-sf7kl9uh7k Před 7 měsíci +1

    Notice how The Wizard isn't rubbing his hands with glee, he's just concerned for the customer.

  • @gikigill788
    @gikigill788 Před 7 měsíci +1

    As Top Gear said, LOTUS stands for Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious.

  • @eddieredmann3
    @eddieredmann3 Před 7 měsíci +3

    This is why I want a third-gen V6 Exige. It's got that Camry engine. Now to find one.

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před 7 měsíci

      It's also a Lexus engine.

  • @Sixstringbassist503
    @Sixstringbassist503 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Best Car Wizard intro EVER.

  • @chrisd924
    @chrisd924 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year guys and thanks for all the great content in 2023... Looking forward to many more in 2024.

  • @Sappy6517
    @Sappy6517 Před 7 měsíci +1

    ha i love that the plates say "MY PRIUS" Thats something i would do

  • @user-gv9zu5mj3e
    @user-gv9zu5mj3e Před 7 měsíci +2

    What a beautiful car this will be with a manual transmission ...
    Hello from Greece Happy new Year

  • @jeffzekas
    @jeffzekas Před 7 měsíci +15

    Yeah, that’s the biggest problem with the mechanics here locally, they just guess at the problem and throw parts at it, rather than actually diagnosing it.

    • @stoneman8110
      @stoneman8110 Před 7 měsíci +2

      The problem is that mechanics fully know the problems, and they aren't honest and will tell you lies just so the bill goes up .

  • @WhittyPics
    @WhittyPics Před 7 měsíci +1

    I know you guys like hard facts and firm answers. No guessing.

  • @gsmith207
    @gsmith207 Před 7 měsíci +2

    love it Wizard! nuttin easy just takes common sense from an awesome mechanic. happy new year to you and Mrs. Wiz.
    Love you guys! cheers from Maine!

  • @johnmichaelkarma
    @johnmichaelkarma Před 7 měsíci +1

    That would be the door sill. Jambs are the vertical sides of the opening of a door. jus sayn' 😎

  • @HotDogMcKoy
    @HotDogMcKoy Před 7 měsíci +21

    I figured out the problem, it has the wrong transmission

  • @clarkleakins879
    @clarkleakins879 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The Evora frame epoxy looks same as used to bond Tesla aluminium frame/body panels.
    The Evora appears to be a streached Elise.
    As with todays cars, so many wiring harness connectors, the FEMALE pins are known to be not properly seated. Unfortunately, the auto manufacturers rarely quality inspects these connectors.
    Very frequently, poor connection can give strange faults.
    The male pin is unable to click/lock into the female socket because the female wing tabs not fully seated/gripping the internal plastic connector. There is a special tool to remove/inspect the female socket, depending upon the pin size.
    I doubt that a specific wire is bad, just a connector on one wire.
    Daniel noted that it happened to him during downshift. Check the paddle shifter connector.
    Check the brake connectors/switches.
    CANBUS systems are often programmed to, will often default and shut down the car during unscheduled events, in order to protect hardware and firmware.
    The software/firmware doesn't have an instruction/self check/diagnosis code for every possible event.
    Thus the battery disconnect reset method.

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite Před 7 měsíci +2

    I hope you get back to us with an answer, now that you have us all worked up!

  • @b-kingmotovlog2818
    @b-kingmotovlog2818 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Might would make A call to the Car Care Nut

  • @DLNix
    @DLNix Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have 3 Evoras currently and owned 6. I rebuild and repair these and can tell you 100 % it's the engine harness. It's not a Toyota made harness and Lotus had numerous updates to harness. It was made by european company and had quality issues on early Evoras. I have IPS on a new harness and friend on 3rd harness and no issues in 5yrs since. Can replace in car but AC compressor must be removed otherwise have to splice in a few wires.

  • @larryp.450
    @larryp.450 Před 3 měsíci

    Check the loose ground wire to the ECU. Fairly well know problem, with a fairly straightforward solution.

  • @risinbison1106
    @risinbison1106 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Lambos, Ferraris, Bentleys, fords, Chevys and Lotus….I’m continually amazed and the variety of cars the Wizard diagnoses.

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID Před 6 měsíci

    My Ford Focus went crazy with lights, codes and cutting out. That was due to failing solder joints in the instrument cluster connector due to the lead free solder being prone to cracking. The CAN bus was going mad. It is a known fault, and very easy to fix, but intermittent electrical problems affecting the ECU and the CAN bus system can be the worse to diagnose.

  • @steveflor9942
    @steveflor9942 Před 3 měsíci

    His license plate made me chuckle.
    My Prius - a Gen 2, 2005 - owned since new. Ran for 14 years before a part failed.
    It has had NO problems. Zero.
    Still runs perfect.

  • @jamesemcclure
    @jamesemcclure Před 7 měsíci +1

    Seems a bit off to criticise another shop for their guess work, then presenting your own guess work that concludes with the same diagnosis.

  • @AtypicalDriver
    @AtypicalDriver Před 7 měsíci +1

    Stoked to see more lotus content!! Beautiful evora!

  • @AaronSmith-kr5yf
    @AaronSmith-kr5yf Před 7 měsíci +1

    Kinda funny how the original 1980's MR2 was basically the up-option sporty FWD/transverse Corolla powertrain and suspension setup. Just moved behind the driver's seat into the middle of the car. The Evora(and Elise) are pretty much the same idea. This is the same engine/transmission/suspension layout as my FWD 2014 Lexus ES350, just moved behind the driver lol. Also Mr Danielson is cute as hell, love those big hairy Popeye forearms lol.

    • @katywalker8322
      @katywalker8322 Před 7 měsíci

      Some early spy shots of that MR2 were at Lotus (presume they were doing some development work). There were a few theories that it was a new Lotus.

  • @chuckcts-v3460
    @chuckcts-v3460 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Could it be as simple as a bad/loose ground?

  • @Dakiraun
    @Dakiraun Před 7 měsíci +2

    Ha.... love her plate. Happy New Year guys! Thanks for all the fun and informative videos in 2023.

  • @Alfonsodag
    @Alfonsodag Před 7 měsíci +1

    So picture this......the car is driving along with inconsistent grounding due to being bonded together. A static charge develops along the length of the car, gradually building in intensity until POW!!! a static discharge occurs driving the sensitive computers nuts. Yes, this car has its own built in EMP. Maybe you could get some chains for it to drag, like fire engines or ambulances.

  • @stevenemert837
    @stevenemert837 Před 7 měsíci

    Your comment at 2:30 that the diagnosis takes hours and hours reminds me of the times in the mid- to late 70's and early 80's when I was a mainframe computer field engineer. I'd be working an issue and the operator or a manager comes up to me to ask, "When will it be fixed?" A couple of times I said, "15 minutes after I find the problem!". Generally an honest but frustrated answer, but one that was generally not well received.

  • @Abesta83
    @Abesta83 Před 7 měsíci

    Had a similar issue on a rav4. Dealer replaced instrument cluster, removed port installed alarm system and sold customer an ecu.
    Turns out it was one pin at a can junction losing contact, killing the speedometer, electric steering and AC compressor.
    The cost was nothing but diagnostic time and bending a pin to make contact once found.

  • @auto.impulse
    @auto.impulse Před 7 měsíci

    I love how car wizard was shitting on the other shop and their diag 😂 so comical

  • @TheopolisQSmith
    @TheopolisQSmith Před 7 měsíci

    I had to laugh when Ms. Wizard made the remark about the door threshold. It brought back memories of a fellow that I knew who had a Lotus Europa back in the 70’s. I got in it once but had to crawl out on hands and knees it was so wide.

  • @TRUTH4U2NO
    @TRUTH4U2NO Před 7 měsíci +1

    Padde shifter switch blown ground or wire or module. Key on shift gear measuring resistance from paddle toward trans.

  • @waynepurcell6058
    @waynepurcell6058 Před 3 měsíci

    I'd rather have a Lotus with "mystery Toyota issues" as a Lamborghini with "mystery Lamborghini" issues any day of the week. A sour vehicle sucks regardless, but at least the Toyota sourced stuff will eventually get solved at some point and will usually be something "relatively" simple (even if hard to diagnose).
    I asked a friend a several years ago (who was a decent "shade tree" mechanic) what he thought would cause the most problems in future vehicles. His instant response was "cold solder joints due to cheap wave dip soldering instead of hand or accurate robotic soldering on these new computer boards along with piss cheap wiring connectors". I think he nailed it. Budget or half assed wiring seems to be the absolute bane of modern vehicles.

  • @davidestate
    @davidestate Před 7 měsíci

    I watch a lot of videos from a man called Diagnosis Dan. He is the CZcamsr that diagnosis electrical problems, module errors and so on. Many shops send their car to him because he checks and finds the problems. In this story, he would use the scope, and tackle the first problem where a module is connected. I would also check the transmission and to see what it's actually doing and the module with controls it. If the client has already flushed the transmission and replaced the fuild, you can take that one out however I remember Alex having this same problem with his transmission in one of the Mercedes videos and he took the transmission module apart and replaced all the parts. Hopefully you don't have to come to that but home you do find the issue after see what happens and testing the module which controls the transmission.

  • @oldrrocr
    @oldrrocr Před 7 měsíci +1

    so sad that British car companies can't even buy a break (by subbing out functions to Toyota). 🤕
    I still love them though!

  • @harooahmed
    @harooahmed Před 2 měsíci

    My 2017 Evora 400 had similar issues. Seems to be common mostly with the IPS (automatic Trans) models. Would get stuck in either 5th or 3rd gear when downshifting from cruising speed. Forgot what the exact scan tool codes were but was an ECU error showing a difference between commanded and expected state of various shift solenoids. Turned out to be a loose MAF ( mass airflow sensor). The lotus TSB / fix was is to securely zip-tie the MAF sensor connector to keep it from coming loose due to engine vibrations.

  • @robotrobot12345
    @robotrobot12345 Před 7 měsíci

    Daniel-son is like a real life Popeye. Them forearms are ripped. Lol

  • @elijahapperson131
    @elijahapperson131 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Take a drink every time they say wiring harness

  • @aussie2uGA
    @aussie2uGA Před 7 měsíci +3

    Is it salt spray that makes all that engine aluminum appear rough and pitted?

  • @Alfonsodag
    @Alfonsodag Před 7 měsíci +2

    You showed us the problem in the video, stuck out like a sore thumb. The car body is bonded together, not welded. That car is going to have ground problems all over the place. Like my Hyundai Accent with ground lugs anchored to painted surfaces with black anodized bolts. Duh, what were they thinking?

  • @CarmeloSanchez2
    @CarmeloSanchez2 Před 7 měsíci +3

    That prius looks great

  • @bakhteria
    @bakhteria Před 7 měsíci +6

    Try the brake switch at the brake pedal. It’s a $12 Saab part. It’s connected to the IPS transmission. Trust me.

    • @johnjohnmcclane1818
      @johnjohnmcclane1818 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Hard to trust someone who can't spell 'brake'.

    • @tacomas9602
      @tacomas9602 Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@johnjohnmcclane1818
      Some who struggle with mechanics may not struggle with words and those who struggle with words may not struggle with mechanics.
      Not everyone is a fucking genius.

    • @myers546
      @myers546 Před 7 měsíci +2

      First thing that I thought of... Replaced two in my Evora, causes all sorts of weird faults 👍. Low voltage can also be an issue, especially since these love to drain batteries

    • @dB_944
      @dB_944 Před 7 měsíci

      @@johnjohnmcclane1818 just like “Camero” 😊

    • @peterduxbury927
      @peterduxbury927 Před 7 měsíci

      @@johnjohnmcclane1818 Or even Bacteria

  • @stephenjackson6515
    @stephenjackson6515 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Happy new year mr and mrs Wizard and everyone else, from England.

  • @ericdawson845
    @ericdawson845 Před 7 měsíci +1

    ECM on many Toyotas and Lexus seem to suffer from heat/cold cycling issues. I sent my ECM off to a place in ?Indiana and they fixed it. The symptoms sound VERY similar to the issues in this car and the dealership also told me 9k USD to repair! Yikes.

  • @Saint_Vincent1735
    @Saint_Vincent1735 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The more you look at the Evora the better it looks.

  • @justinstiff5641
    @justinstiff5641 Před 7 měsíci +1

    "My Prius" license plates 😊

  • @jorgeirizarry5971
    @jorgeirizarry5971 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You need to call Scott Kilmer and do a colab on this car. That'll be very entertaining. Having Scott reviewing this thing and laughing will be priceless.

    • @ROMANS3-25KJV
      @ROMANS3-25KJV Před 7 měsíci

      Jorge, are you saved? We all have sinned (Romans 3:23 KJV). All unsaved sinners will end up in the eternal lake of fire (Revelation 21:8 KJV). The Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). Getting water baptized DOESN'T save us (1 Corinthians 1:17 KJV). We are saved by grace through faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV). Once we are saved, we CAN'T lose our salvation (Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV).