Here’s How Much It Costs to Daily Drive a Porsche Cayenne with High Mileage...
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Is it worth it? Comment to let me know what you think!
Incredible video. Thank you so much for confirming I cant afford it :D
DoSe oF MoE Happy to help. Haha in all seriousness though, if I really understood how much I’d spend on maintenance & the cost of ownership when I bought it, I probably wouldn’t have wanted it bad enough to pull the trigger. 😅
This kinda proves that VW high end cars are solid to drive but very expensive to maintain. I am talking about this and Phaeton
@@nasarazam Yup, I'd definitely agree.
Man, I just purchased a 2004 Cayenne Turbo for $4300. I had to place rotors, brakes, and driveline for $2500.00. The radio is not working- probably Bose amp and I need tires. I also need oil change. I put $40.00 in gas. 138,000 miles on the vehicle. Your video is excellent and I’m done here, I can’t spend that kind of money. $6800.00 it is going up for sale.. I’ll take the first $6000.00 and accept the $800.00 loss as my lesson. Please let me sale. Thank you for the video. It is an A+ video. Your a real solid dude. Thanks man. Peace and Blessings
I've driven reliable front wheel drive cars for cheap
...and I've driven pain-in-the-butt German cars with higher running cost.
At the end of the day, though... nobody scours the classifieds for weeks looking for the right Hyundai.
Well said! 👍
05 Porsche Cayenne turbo 250,000 miles, running strong!
That’s awesome to hear! 👍🏼
Repair record available? Please :)
@@peacelove7468 That would be neat to see! I'll have an updated video of mine sometime in the near future.
Anything will keep running strong as long as you keep pouring money into fixing it. That statement means nothing as it stands.
Good miles
Great summary. You hit the nail on the head. It can be a reliable SUV with basic and proper maintenance which is of course expensive due to Porsche being a luxury brand, but the driving characteristics of this SUV are superior. Its a true SUV that can go off-road and it drives better than some sports cars.
Thank you Hector! I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and for your kind feedback. 👍
Well, you bought it because it’s a Porsche but people don’t realize is that all vehicles out there needs to be maintained and it costs $$$ but the joy of driving a Porsche is unbelievably awesome!
Yes indeed! I'd agree with you on that... Porsche's are awesome vehicles to drive! 😃
To be fair, Toyotas don't need much maintenance. I had clicking splines, which righted themselves after ignoring them for a few months. I’ve had zero oil on the dipstick on more than one occasion, but the car kept going for a decade after topping up. My first Toyota, I only serviced every 3 or 4 years, and I thrashed the crap out of it (young and immature). In 24 years, 3 ageing Toyotas, I’ve had one broken speedo cable, and one water pump replaced under extended warrantee (on a 12-year-old car). Yes, I should have maintained a lot better than I did, but from my experience, they don’t NEED it.
Meh
Im a verry amateur mechanic but the coolant pipe, therm., etc. was a pretty easy repair (despite the mechanics making it sound like it was an engine tear down). Took me about 6 hours and cost around 700 in parts (with a new starter).
You're right. I'd just personally rather pay someone else the labor cost and focus the time on my work & business. To each their own though.
Sounds like as much as my Mini for random parts! 😂 why not jumping to Porsche then. I’m debating haha
I purchased a 2009 S new in 2008. It has about 260000 miles on it now. I have the oil changed every 40000 miles or so. I burn about a quart every 5000 miles. One annoying feature is water building in up in some door panels at times. Had to remove plugs in bottom of door sills. One door has rusted. Otherwise still running stong. Drive shaft went around 170000 miles. I Switched tires to nokian wrg 3 and now wrg 4. Lasted much longer than most other brands plus got about 1.5mpg more which shocked me. Less responsive but softer and better for potholes etc. They have held up well for driving in southern new england.
Glad to hear yours has treaded you very well over the years as well! 👍
Oil changed at 40 at miles? My goodness you're entering Citroen 2.2 diesel country there. That's what they recommend. I'm old just couldn't do it. 5k mile changes thank you.
260k.. that's encouraging!
Every 40,000 miles?
4000 miles more like it
Some say it makes more sense to just lease a car think about the numbers. To rent (lease) a car for three years you usually put about $3,000 to $5,000 down (plus tax). Then for three years you pay $350-$500. After that--which comes to around $16,000 to $23,000. Gone. You must give the car back.
Yes, you drove a nice new car and had no repairs but a person who owned a used Porsche for three years is probably not going to pay 15-20 grand on repairs.
I bought a used Cayenne and figure that if the repairs cost $10,000 over eight years or so, that's still better than leasing or getting hit by new car depreciation.
So far, it's been about three years and I haven't an unscheduled repair yet. Fingers crossed.
Some people just feel better paying thousands up front rather than have that anxiety of unscheduled repairs. And I do understand that. I know a woman who bought a late model Lexus because they are so reliable (and they are) but she still paid thousands extra for an after market warranty. That car never broke down and she never needed it, of course, but she said she slept better at night knowing she was covered. To each their own.
Coming from having owned a BMW... this sounds like a really low maintenance car. Also compared to Audi vehicles this sounds like too good to be true. 👍good job on the buy man
Having owned a E92 335i Coupe (which was tons of fun), I can understand exactly what you mean! 😅
owned 3 bmw's and can confirm that they are probably one of the most expensive to keep in line, been driving a 98 tahoe in the same time frame and cost of maint was virtually nothing aside from consumables.
bmw maint -4.5k -5k in 2.5yrs
Roll in there the Mini Cooper too. My current everyday ride. Brought this baby up to 150k miles with only a clutch repair. The problem is just in the USA people charge $$$ to work on my beloved European cars.
Looking to buy a used Porsche now, keeping the old mini hoping it’ll become a classic collector one day so I can switch my daily driver car to something as fun as my current vehicule. 🤞🏻
your summary was amazing!! I love my cayenne S and every penny is worth it!! Thank you for your time.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video. Enjoy your Cayenne S in good health!
Good info. Lots of things to keep in mind when it comes to related expenses of a vehicle.
Absolutely! Thanks for watching man!
I thank for the info and keeping it real about the cost. Fairly typical for Porsche; the brake cost hasn't kicked in yet, the need to be replaced after 20-25k miles. Some dealerships charge up 10k for the high performance replacement on the GTS, however that shop you go to might be able to do it for less. If you did your own oil changes you could cut that expense down to $55-60. If the purchase price is low enough they are worth it, however with miles they'd be better of as a weekend car.
Thank you for the input! And I did have to address the brakes on the more recent update video I did. I'm happy to report that my cost for that was nowhere near the figure you mentioned... Less than $1,000 for new rotors and pads installed all around, between parts and labor. :) But yeah cost of ownership would have definitely been less as a weekend car vs daily. Been a fun experience to drive it nonetheless though.
Porsche Cayenne are great vehicles! If you can do the majority of the work yourself, you can save a boatload of money. There are so many you tube videos for every repair for 2003-2010 Cayennes.
Indeed they are! I have enjoyed mine. And you're right, that's a neat thing about CZcams... There's a DIY for just about everything, and forum posts whenever there's a lack of videos. 👍
Great video man. Not too shabby.
Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch it.
I paid $4,500 cash for a 2006 Cayenne S 4.5L with 150,000 miles. It booked at about $9,000. I knew it needed some love. Starter, plugs, oil, re-glue headliner, replace hood struts, and hatch struts, buff out. I paid $1,600 to my mechanic and did the smaller stuff. So....I'm into it for $6,150. It was a government car from Arizona for 130,000 miles and had a great service record. It's a great running car, and is fun to drive. It has 90 more horsepower than my 1991 Corvette had. I've only had it for 8 months, and would be happy to buy it again. If it lasts for another year and a half I'll probably give it to my sister when I move back to Asia. I also have a boring, reliable Kia Sportage.
Awesome buy! 🙌 Thank you for sharing.
I wouldn't look at this in terms of monthly cost because all of the repairs done and paid for should not be required again--or at least for an extended period. It's more like an up-front fee--aside from oil changes. And of course, a lot of this could be done for a tiny fraction. The first $1,000 bill was mostly labor and could have been done in 2 hours in a garage with basic tools saving well over $600. Its not even "wrenching." The good news is that if you're willing to do a little of your own work, the cost of ownership really doesn't sound that bad.
Thanks for sharing! I don't disagree with anything you're saying. In my experience with the cars I've owned I've noticed that the cost of ownership tends to be pretty consistent over a longer course of time and use. So while the maintenance items will indeed vary from service to service, over time it can be broken down into an average annual cost or as I put it, monthly. Which indeed is realized in sporadic intervals rather than on a monthly basis. And of course those who prefer to do their own labor can save on the labor expense, but there is a tradeoff of time of which has an often unspoken expense. For those who enjoy working on cars or find it as most financially beneficial to do so, I think it's a great thing. 👍
@@TexasRealEstate working in cars can definitely be timely and I totally agree that is an expense! And there are certainly jobs that can be on a level where it makes more sense to pay a shop to do it, but an oil change and many other maintenance type tasks can be done in a couple of hours on a Friday night or early Saturday morning and can save hundreds, if not thousands, over the life of the vehicle. Personally, I like the quiet and the alone time in the garage, not to mention the fact that I cannot stand having to schedule and appointment and then leave my vehicle with someone else I don’t trust lol.
Great video thanks for the info
Of course!
thanks for the hard work on the video.
I appreciate it!
If you want to be cost effective you have to learn how to fix things on the series 1 955 series 2 957 yourself. They basically don't break it's the sophisticated electrics you need to learn and understand this is where the common failures are when they age . The car has multiple little modules like little hard drives that control things via the main computer .EG one each for each head light cluster , one for the transfer case , one for the ignition steering lock that aways fails . These fail and basically the car becomes a 2500kg paper weight . All the mechanicals are straight froward and bullet proof German engineering and lots of info how to fix out there . Learn how the vehicle works mechanically and have an understanding of the half a dozen control modules work and you sort of need to learn the clearing of error codes and reseting of these modules if you want to avoid paying someone to scan and diagnose . with these modern cars its very little mechanical and all electrics that will stuff you up . Learn how to clear faults and re program new modules when they fail . You will save thousands . Then it's just the cost of parts . Its the labour thats the problem paying people to work on it can make it not worth it over a longe period of time .
Thank you very much for your great video. Really helped me make my decision to purchase one or not.
Glad to help!
$400 to change the battery?! It takes 10 minutes... this is why I do all my own work on my vehicles. That's how I can afford my German vehicles.
That did include the cost of the battery which was a lions share of the cost if I remember correctly. To each their own, I choose to focus my time and energy on my areas of expertise instead.
u have no idea how difficult to change a battery on a cayenne
@@jayzhang14 move seat forward undo rear battery cover clips. Move seat back and undo seat bolts. Tip seat back undo battery cover bolts and front cover clips and remove battery cover. Remove battery stabilisers. Attach memory keeper to jump start terminals. Detach battery cables and replace. Then do all those steps in reverse to complete. Job takes about 30-45 minutes depending and you may need to cut carpet but that doesn’t show as it’s along carpet creases.
@@eddherring4972 would u consider it is easy comparing other car? I don’t think most people can do it themselves. Of course I know how it works, but I would not do it myself.
@@jayzhang14 no, I’d consider it very complex and most likely would want someone else to do it.
Own a 2008 Cayenne TTS with full GTS kit for approximately 4 years it’s just ticked over 90,000 miles it had 83,xxx when I bought it:
Changed plugs & coil packs £350 (did myself)
Changed 4 tyres for Pirelli P1 £600 the set
Changed cracked body acceleration sensor £700 including labour
Changed waterlogged headlights and ballasts £3600
Changed seized front caliper and fitted Brembo discs, pads sensors all round £2600 including labour
Transmission fluid and oil change £200 (I supplied fluids and filters) labour only
That’s everything, they are known for headlight leaks, brakes are consumable so other than a seized caliper and the broken sensor the car has been completely reliable.
Glad you're enjoying yours!
I just bought one this isnt bad. although its always good to find a good Porsche tech to repair the ridiculously high stuff Im lucky, I have a good tech for my 1986.5 928, he can work on the Cayenne too!
thanks for posting this dude
You're welcome!
From the rough numbers, the premium tax (the extra maintenance over the tyres and oil) was only around $200 per month. The remainder $850pm would be similar for any car. Except maybe the fuel but that's true of any thirsty vehicle.
$200pm/$2,400pa is not chump-change but, factored into the purchase price, and these are often relatively cheap compared to "sensible competition", it's a worthwhile thing to know. Interesting to know what happens the next 5 years and whether that adds up consistently to be a total of $12K.
True. I more than likely wont own it long enough to find out... I like to switch cars every 2-3 years tops. Already put 40k miles on it which is about as much as I've put on anything so I'm pretty well at the point where I'm ready to move on and get something else. 🙂 I will more than likely do one more cost of ownership update prior though.
Thank you, good information to know. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
2004 Cayenne S V8 purchased used for $15K, seven years ago- w/90K miles now has 153K miles. Now dropped approximately 26K in dealer OEM maintenance over seven years. Didn't drive it in 2021 or 2020 since working from home during COVID. Currently, sitting at $490/month not including fuel, ins., taxes. Has survived three major hail storms. Absolute pile of garbage, but I is my favorite vehicle ever.
I definitely understand your sentiment haha
hi, thanks for the video i just bought a 2008 porsh cayenne. would you please tell me please how much oil sould i put in the engine? i see you put on pig gallon. is is one or 2 gallons?
Sounds like yours didn't come with an owners manual. If that's the case, this should help you with this question and more you'll have in the future:
www.porsche.com/china/en/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/manuals-cayenne/
Great info! It's videos like these that make me lean toward a used Lexus RX 350. Not as exciting, but for the same price, you can afford a newer model, & Lexus reliability is off the charts.
Glad you found the video helpful! I'd say it depends on what your biggest priorities are. I valued the Porsche driving experience over reliability / cost effectiveness. That being said, I've found Porsches to be incredibly reliable in my experience owning both the Cayenne and a couple others. Typically higher maintenance cost when service is needed but nothing like the experience. I'd probably go with a Lexus or something similar if I wanted something nice and more cost effective.
You've got me considered the Porsche. Most useful stat was $4,300 in repairs after excluding oil and tires ($2,150/yr). We have an '03 Honda Element & an '11 Lexus ES350. They average $1,250/yr each, & that includes keeping ahead of recommended maintenance, like performing a trans fluid flush at 50K miles instead of 100K. Tough decision!
@@JT-fd3tf Have you driven a Porsche yet? If not, definitely would recommend doing so before you decide on something!
Wait until your hybrid battery dies on your Lexus. My friends just got a $7k repair quote just to change that battery on her Lexus. I’ll go with a base gas option. I wish they made these with manual transmission.
I hate automatic so bad.
@@ameliebellefille4616 They did make the 2008-2010 Cayenne GTS in manual. They're rare but they're out there.
$6500 for 2 years of driving, 35k miles on such a high mileage luxury SUV is way less than I expected.
I plan on buying one with approx 45-50k miles and this definitely convinced me to get one!
Awesome to hear! I really enjoyed mine, such an awesome SUV! 👍
I like your channel. I was thinking a lot of buying a Porsche you put me of, I have a landcruiser Colorado it cost me about $ 800 a year
Thank you! And tough to beat a Toyota from a cost of ownership standpoint.
Keep in mind that is all service work vs doing your own maintenance which adds up quickly. Granted the GTS is a beast and comes with the typical Euro Tax for maintenance.
That is true. DIYers will definitely make out ahead on the financial cost. And that brings up one other thing I meant to note, those are independent prices vs dealer. I believe the bill would be higher if done through the dealer.
@@TexasRealEstate Absolutely! Most of the maintenance items I think are priced fairly from the shop. You have a lot of miles for the timespan which makes the ownership cost look a bit higher IMO. No argument on $200 per oil change either as it takes an hour and ~$80 in supplies even with mail order parts and wallyworld M1 jugs.
@@TheTrothKeeper Yup, that's exactly right. It's definitely not the most practical daily driver from a cost perspective, but I will say it is the most comfortable daily I've ever had lol
Everyone would be surprised it they calculated their costs of ownership the way you did..I thought my Lexus was cost efficient, but calculating it up my monthly daily driving cost was about half of yours and you put on way more miles...cool perspective.
@@twotime88 Thank you! And no doubt. That's what's neat about Lexus though, you get a luxury experience without the German level maintenance cost. I love driving the Porsche daily it's a real nice driving experience but I wouldn't mind have the extra money available in my bank account instead at this point. So hopefully sharing more of my car experiences here will make the expense more worthwhile.
Looking to get a 2014 GTS with 77k miles love the car and been searching a lot about it! Glad to know they are solid
My 2010 GTS was a great SUV... And now I love my 2014 Turbo S! Phenomenal SUV's
I’m hesitating between a first and a second generation cayenne base.
Any recommendations on reliability here? I was looking at 2012 right under the 100k mileage. Gotta be difficult to find a first gen in this range.
I can't speak to the difference in reliability between first and second generation but my gut says that generation 2 would be the way to go, given both options. That being said, I felt that my 2010 (last year of that generation) was very reliable. And it definitely will be easier to find one under 100k that's newer vs older.
Have two 2009 diesels one 72000 and 92000 both good cars one standerd spec the other high spec , love both off them
They're great driving vehicles. 👍
my audi is worse lol. I'm switching to a cheyenne s because of the reliability difference.... those prices aren't bad either! your dealing with a good shop! I've seen bills worse than that on my old Subaru suv!
Yeah I didn't think the prices were bad. Was happy to pay for the service with a great shop. Hope you find yourself a nice Cayenne S and enjoy it! 👍
The vehicle depreciates not the cost of maintenance and repair.
If you want to drive a high end European luxury vehicle than those are the prices you have to pay.
If the costs scare you buy a Hyundai Tucson....
Yup, you've got to pay to play 👍
Driving a 2004 Cayenne s with 270,000 Kim’s/170000miles,runs pretty good.but I am getting a whining noise from the driveline on deceleration.other than that the truck runs fine.
Very glad to hear! They're great driving vehicles!
I @@TexasRealEstate yup.i had the same suv over 10 years ago, I paid 15 times more for it back then. Loved it so much bought it again last year as a winter beater.i trust this truck in any weather with my life!
Hmm. Here in Australia that would equate to around $10kAU over 2 years, or just shy of $200 a week. In maintenance. I could almost buy a brand new 918 on finance for that. Certainly it'd get me a new Golf R or a WRX STi. Not that the Cayenne isn't a beautiful car; but I think that's probably a bit much. Just for comparison, my 2000MY Boxster S has cost me $600 in the last year, and that was for a service at Porsche. There is definitely a sense of occasion when you drive a Porsche, even an oldie. But in my humble opinion, given the running costs involved, the Cayenne is a car for mechanics, or at least those with strong mechanical skills.
Don’t forget to factor in the fact that you still have to maintain those as well lol
Valid point, but the Cayenne serves a different purpose than the Boxster for most. I think with Porsche's in general, many owners are willing to deal with the maintenance cost for the driving experience you mention.
This seams like alot of routine maintenance like that of any vehicle. Just a bit more to pay a porsche shop. At least hes not showing a bunch of really expensive repairs that are faults in the design. Its a solid car. And not much drives quite as well. Comfortable too. Plus as he said, if you can do it yourself. Tricky in ways but totally doable.... :)
100%. Pretty well all routine maintenance. Great ownership experience all around.
Also I'd say he drives quite a bit more than the average person which would accelerate routine maintenance and wear and tear.
@@jasonbletzinger3444 Yup, that's definitely the case.
Damn... I actually love the way this truck loves and I’ve had a shitty dodge before so I’m fine with the mpg
Yeah it's basically truck mpg but Porsche everything else lol.
Hi bro
I planned to buy a cayenne of 1st generation, which one is the best model? (Less problems)
3.2? 3.6? 4.5? 4.8?
Not sure which one would have the least problems, as I was only interested in the 4.8 myself. I'd suggest going to the Rennlist Porsche online forum and asking the question there, you should be able to get input from owners of those various models.
JD Powers rated the 2009 Cayennes with a 5-star rating for reliability. 2008 was a 4.5 I think.
nothing bitter then a Toyota landcruiser Colorado big & powerful reliable strong, good, a car is not a second marriage we have to remember a car is a horse ,if it to costly we don't use it, otherwise you become the bank, I am so happy to hear your story, about your car
I appreciate it and thank you for watching!
UK gallon 4.54 litres. Approx. American gallon 3.78 litres approx. So fuel consumption slightly different in U.K.
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Hi can you tell me which model and year is it? Thank you
Yes, it's a 2010 GTS.
Does this one have air springs? Any issues with suspension?
They do have air suspension. Never had any issues with mine over the course of adding 40k miles to the odometer.
@@TexasRealEstate
Excellent thanks for the update. Do you know if the new ones 9YA are any reliable?
Almost cheaper to lease or buy a newer CPO. Regardless, great video and helped me decide.
Yeah I definitely agree. Glad you found my video helpful!
Nope. It’s cheaper to keep the car and fix it yourself.
Of course! I totally understand. It's a high performance vehicle with a high mileage. Would it have been cheaper with a Chevrolet V8 or other?
As much as I love Chevy LS engines, I wouldn't want one in a Cayenne. 😅
How do you reckon a 2020 Macan would do if I went ahead and bought one right now? Would it be better on reliability and maintenance?
A new 2020 Macan should for sure be better on reliability and maintenance for two reasons: It's a brand new car so all the components will be new and at the beginning of their life span. Also, you should have the new car warranty as well at that point to help mitigate initial maintenance costs. However, you pay for it in the depreciation. I haven't crunched the numbers in this specific scenario but just thinking about it - I wouldn't be surprised if your money went further on a brand new Macan despite the depreciation than it would on a used Cayenne GTS where you have a higher maintenance cost. It's just a different place that the money goes at that point. So that said, I'd probably go with the Macan if it's in line with what you want.
@@TexasRealEstate That's accurate, thanks and much appreciated.
@@vishwav20 Of course, glad to share my input.
Only mechanically inclined folks should own a pre owned ,high mileage, German vehicle. Do all the maintanence and repairs you can. Only go to the dealer for things you cannot do. This will save you tens of thousands of dollars in the ownership of the vehicle. If you are the type to change cars often then theses vehicles are not for you as you will spend resources getting vehicle up to standard and then sell it off to the next lucky owner. Most used German cars in the U.S. are not properly maintained. Most folks just are not diligent enough when it comes to preventative maintanence. It is essential to be proactive with these vehicles not reactive and wait for things to break. Being in the Automotive Service industry I notice most people do not comprehend the preventative approach like they should. They value the prestige of the brand emblem but do not understand the commitment to maintain a properly running vehicle. They will.only do the minimum in most instances.
Thank you for the video, I want to switch my Maserati Levante to a Porsche Cayenne, that looks cheaper than owning an Italian Maserati >.
I have no doubt about that! Haha. The Levante is a nice sounding SUV though 👌
Ouch ! But how is the Cayenne compare to that Corvette and the Nissan in terms of handing and driving pleasure? Do you enjoy driving the Cayenne over the 2?
I know! It only gets worse if you see my more recent update on the cost of ownership... Lol. But I like the question! Cayenne beats the Corvette & Nissan Z in terms of comfort. It's very enjoyable to drive as well, just like you'd expect from a Porsche. The Nissan Z is very raw feeling by comparison, you feel the bumps and hear the road noise. The Z06 handles smoother then the Nissan Z but not as smooth as the Cayenne. The suspension on the Cayenne is pretty incredible, and road noise is minimal. All very different cars. Of the bunch, I'd say best daily driving experience = Cayenne. Most fun = Corvette Z06.
@@TexasRealEstate i own a c7 corvette 2015. It's been one year now and thinking of getting a Cayeene 2016. The reason of the change is getting a car that is a 🐈 magnet. Will Cayeene do the work for me ?
IF You still have warranty remaining, you are stuck on maintenance...has to be done by a Porsche shop. Use an indie , have a warranty issue and they will deny that warranty repair. Porsche has us by the balls on service. I'm on my 4th one now. I think the quality was better than it is now a few decades back. much of the design of small parts and some major parts seem to be one of "planned obsolescence". Using too many plastic parts that harden and fail over time and being exposed to engine heat. Aluminum fasteners another silly feature.
Yup... Warranty wasn't an issue for me but maintenance cost is still high but I do drive a lot. I think Porsche is better about the planned obsolescence than many of their contemporaries in the automotive world but there's definitely still components that will fail in time - due to their design. But I still believe Porsches are somewhat more reliable long term than the alternatives - I think the quality is higher.
250$ for a scan and module reset - pure theft mate. It shouldn't be more than 50$ at least in Europe you can fix these cars for 1/4 of the US prices...
I didn't mind paying at the time for the service. I appreciate the feedback!
Damn, they charged you 300 for a 40 minute battery change lol.
At least I got a brand new Range Rover as a loaner. 😝 But on a more serious note, do you know where the batteries are located in these? Most inconvenient of places lol
@@TexasRealEstate I do, not the only vehicle with very inconvenient battery compartments. Just be glad you didnt have the air ride package that has another battery under the rear seat and tire.
My boy ur choice in cars tho ✊✊ 370 ,, corvette n a porsche suv
I appreciate you! 🙌 🙌
If you are capable doing oil, brakes, and minor repairs you can get the cost way down. Obviously that's not for everyone but but I'd never pay 200 for an oil change
For sure. Definitely ways to cut the cost down for DIYers. 👍
It's 2023 now and I'm wondering how long you kept it following the video.
Buying one for my wife.😉
I sold it within a year of this video, with about 164k miles on the clock. Great ownership experience overall for the 40k miles I had it! Happy to share as well that I recently picked up a 2014 Cayenne Turbo S. Stay tuned for more on that on the channel :)
1.5 speed, thank me later
Thank you! 🙌
You could do 90% of the stuff i saw listed that youve had done. If you work on em yourself, its not that bad. But i guess thats the difference between an Aggie and a Red Raider ;)
I'm a product of the UT school system actually. 😄 But I can definitely do my own work... I choose not to. Been there, done that. Wrenching isn't my thing but real estate is. 🙂
Jesus, you've re-purchased the car in 2 years.
Yup 😅
you're not still running it eh? if not when did you stop? i just grabbed a 2006 cayenne S for $8200 cad a few weks ago.. solid 8 /10 al around .. 190km.. i'm no stranger to german cars.. have a few.. some for 10+ years but i bought this one on a bit of a whim and ditching the wifes 2014 tiguan with 150km .. lol.. i do question if its the right move.. but so far the thing has really impressed me, never had anything porsche before. i feel like the tiguan's value will drop like a rock soon and as long as this thing is running it's not going to get much less than 8200 cad (maybe $5500 usd) plus the tiguan is like driving a shopping cart heh,
I sold mine about a year ago. Had it for 2 years, bought with 123k miles and sold with 163k. Still running just as great at the time of sale as when I bought it. Likely won't be my last Cayenne. Right now I'm daily driving my 2008 Corvette Z06... But I'm not driving nearly as much now as I was then. And I agree with your assessment in terms of the value. These V8 Cayennes are a lot of value for the money. Hope you enjoy yours!
@@TexasRealEstate nice daily! i'd love to grab a c6 z06 someday.. not too interested in american cars but for that i will make an exception. i daily an 08 m5 6 speed in the summer for the last 5 years.. but i don't drive much either anymore.. yeah from what i've seen so far of the cayenne makes me want a real one.. especially if it holds its own in the "family suv" spot of our lineup as the wifes daily!
@@Joe-qu9se Would make for an awesome family SUV!
M5's are fun cars to drive as well, they've got some serious get up and go when you put the pedal down!! 👍
Gas is a real fucker with this truck. Still nice though. I average about 15 in the city and 23 on the highway you should use synthetic oils for the engine if it’s safe too I had to go to a Porsche mechanic I’m Brooklyn ... worked really well
I always used synthetic. 23 mpg is great. For whatever reason, I could never get up to that high even highway driving. Best I ever managed on a long highway driver was in the mid 18's mpg
Hmm V6! That’s an oil burner VW engine. My S V8 barely uses a drop.
My Cayenne S is just touching 19 years old now and has excellent reliability.
This is also a really easy vehicle to service. You can cut service costs in half and use better parts/fluids and a better job. #diy
Glad to hear you're still enjoying yours after all those years! They truly are phenomenal vehicles. The V8 is a must in these.
24 years of owning 3 ageing Toyotas:
Oil change every few years when I get around to it.
Clicking in the splines; which righted itself after ignoring it for a few months.
$80 for a broken speedo cable; self-installed in 5 minutes.
$0 for a new water pump; covered by extended Toyota warrantee on a 12-year-old-car.
$20 in blown headlight bulbs.
I’d love a Porsche (Macan, in my case), but I just have too much self-respect to put myself through the hassle. Think how much would have gone wrong over 24 years... (shudder)
I get it. No question that Toyota ownership has it's benefits 👍
gonna buy a 2015 V8 one next year…we’ll see
I wish I hadn't seen this video. I want an 09'-10' Turbo S or decent GTS really bad. But I don't know about $1k a month.
I feel your pain! I probably wouldn't have bought it if I really understood that's what I was signing up for. As some have suggested though, it's not as high of a cost if you can do your own labor. That or don't drive it as often as I drove mine... Highest monthly cost was the maintenance but I think it's in large part because I drove it everywhere and didn't hold back on putting miles on it.
Bro...that’s with a $0 down car payment and putting on way more miles per year than the average person
What could you get behind the wheel of for $1000 a month all up? Probably better car and less time at the repair shop?
For sure. Plenty of newer vehicles under warranty at that point.
You need a Ford guy. Or move to mexico where it is a few dollars to do each thing.mexicans know cars.
I hear what you're saying but my mindset is more geared to increasing income so I can foot the bill of the cars I like.
So, the trick is to buy anything after 2008 with the 3.6L engine, Not the GTS 4.8L one. Also. I may need to buy a Cayenne at a VERY low price to compensate for all that money I will pay for maintenance.
That's definitely a way to go about it. From a driving experience standpoint, to me the 6 cylinder doesn't fit the Cayenne as well but that's just my opinion having driven both. Having owned some of the least expensive Porsches available (started with a 924S), I have learned that there's no such thing as a cheap Porsche. :)
@@TexasRealEstate You mean that the V6 engine is small for the Cayenne??, I was surprised to see the 3.2L V6 engine in the Cayenne gives 250hp. My 2008 Acura MDX has a 3.6L V6 and it gives 300hp. Also, there is no doubt the MDX is too much more reliable than the Cayenne.
I realize this is 3 years old lol but I don't really think it's terrible when you take a look at the mileage used. 40k for a lot of people is 3.5-4 years
I agree! 👍
We need an extra car and looking at a 2009 Cayenne with 70K miles. Here to find out more info about maintenance.
Awesome! Hopefully the video helps. Not sure how much of a difference it makes but I bought mine with 123k miles but it was well maintained throughout its life prior to my ownership.
What year is this cayenne is?
2010
Is it cheaper to buy new?
Maybe not cheaper, but a lot closer than I initially would have thought with all things considered. 😅
I will take a GM, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Toyota anytime. Thanks for an honest review.
To each their own. 👍 It's definitely not for everybody.
Hopefully the macan will be cheaper to own.
Would love to hear more about that myself!
I'm sure there is a solution to the excessive oil top up, why don't you do it?
I've worked on my own cars in years prior and do not enjoy it. Also my time is better spent working on my business.
Not much was for non-routine maintenance considering you drove the crap out of an older german car My 2017 WRX with 70k miles cost me way more than that in unexpected maintenance over the last 2 years with only about 5k miles per year the last 3 years.
I'd agree. And wild to hear!
Too rich for my blood. Was thinking about upgrading to a Macan from a QX 60. But that’s okay.
It's a love hate relationship at times with these German cars, that's for sure! Love driving them until it's a drive to the shop lol.
I have a 2018 with 18900 miles on it And Porsche just called me and said that my 20,000 mi maintenance is coming up It's going to be $1,300, They said oil change, filters, brake fluid flush and oh yeah new windshield wipers...$1300🤔.. I don't know I'm going to look into this because that sounds a little crazy but I'll pay it if I have to but I don't know if that's right..
That does sound high... Maybe that's just what it costs through Porsche. If you have any independents that work on Porsche's in your area, you could call around to see what the same service would run with them. Most of the service needs I've had come about on mine would have ran more $ through the dealer. If it were warranty work, I wouldn't hesitate to go through the dealer and have them charge whatever they want but if I'm paying, I'll go to the most reasonably priced technician / shop that knows the cars and has a good reputation.
@@TexasRealEstate yeah the car has a warranty but this service they said doesn't qualify under the warranty that's just regular maintenance, which I thought I paid for when I got the truck I guess I was wrong, and the first service was free now I have to pay, but yeah I completely agree that's what I'm doing now is calling around. Thx
@@michaelwise6970 Hope everything works out okay for you with it!
You can do that all yourself
Those parts shouldn’t cost more than $200 altogether and could easily be DIYed with a couple hours of your time.
So is it worth it to buy a 2005 porchey cayenne turbo?
If it's what you really want and you are okay with the cost of ownership, I'd say go for it!
@@TexasRealEstate thank you very much do you think that 10 with 15 thousand dollars is good to keep for unexpected problems or would I need to be expecting more expensive issues?
@@mikeez9445 Depending on how much you drive it and how well maintained the vehicle you buy is at the time of purchase, I'd anticipate $2-4k per year in maintenance costs for a fairly well maintained vehicle. Hope that helps!
@@TexasRealEstate thank you very much
Devastating was the word that came to mind after hearing your numbers.
My wallet is most definitely devastated. 😆
The money you spent on that Cayenne would have been enough for down payments on two rental homes in South Texas.
For sure! Are you in the real estate business as well?
Der V8 Motor ist im Unterhalt auch teuer, etwas günstiger ist der V6 Motor.
Um Kosten zu sparen sollte man einiges selber machen und in Freie Werkstätten fahren und nie zu Porsche.
Moral of this video for me is lease it new and walk away. 😂
That's a solid takeaway honestly haha 😂
Nope! The moral of the story is, learn how to turn a wrench (no disrespect).
I got a Lexus rx and it doesn't burn oil it's got 278000 but then Lexus rx is better built than the Porsche cayenne, no surprise there
That's pretty amazing! Glad you're enjoying your Lexus. 😎👍
Worth it to not drive a boring vehicle. If you’re not into cars not worth it.
Spot on. I completely agree.
I could not imagine going to the dealer that often. I've had multiple AMG's and i know they are not much different at all from a standard Cayenne turbo or gts. Thank freaking fu*k i know how to work on my own cars lol. So for me with that math, somehow remove all labor and those outrageously overpriced tires, and we'd be good.
Well I put a lot of miles on it in a relatively short amount of time. Probably not so frequent if you're not clocking 20k miles a year like I was. Also I know how to work on my own cars, but I prefer to pay others to do that lol
@@TexasRealEstate absolutely. If you can afford that, by all means that's the best way to do if you have a trusted indy or really love your local dealer. Between house projects and bills I could never do that myself. 20k miles/yr is insane!
Wouldn't make more sense to lease a car with good gas milage?
It probably would.
If you can turn a wrench. The cost would be a 3rd to a 4th the cost. 🤷🏼♂️. An oil change is $80. 🤦🏼♂️.
Very true! While I can turn a wrench, I have no interest in doing so. Rather focus on my business and growing my revenue there instead of spending the time saving on the maintenance needs of my cars. To each his own though. :)
@@TexasRealEstate what an awesome reply to what i read as not the nicest comment. thank you for your video.
@@josepha9703 Thank you for the response and for watching the video! I appreciate you.
TYLER ROICKI Very fair responses, of all this is the most logical. Investing time into building revenue streams and having that hard work pay off the maintenance easily.
I do all my own work too only my 06 Cayenne S, but researching, ordering parts, diagnostics and then actually going in to do the work being in awkward positions, possible injuries and damage to the hands it makes you question if it’s worth it. Oil messes and clean up etc time all adds up. To each their own sums it up perfectly. There is no right or wrong.
Are they expensive to fix
Yes. Actually I have mine in the shop right now because the high pressure fuel pump went out and also due for new brake pad and rotors. The high pressure fuel pump is a $1,000, just for the part. But all in for that and the brakes, it's going to run me a little over $2,000. So I'm approaching $10,000 in maintenance / expenses over the course of a little over 2 years and about 39k miles (current odometer is 161k).
Tyler Roicki wow that’s alot
Rashad Mabon I know 😝
@trublu97 I actually was able to get a sweet deal on the rotors, significantly better than 300 a corner from an aftermarket supplier with a good reputation. Got the brakes all taken care of now with new rotors and pads all around!
Man that’s not bad
I think it could have been a lot worse haha
If you buy a car at 500 a month, insurance, and gas for a new car. It’s basically the same.
Yeah, not a huge difference compared to a new vehicle especially when you factor maintenance.
You need to start getting handy with a spanner, you can save thousands by simply doing the easy stuff yourself.
Well aware. I used to do my own wrenching but prefer to pay people who work on these cars for a living to do what they do best. It gives me more time to do what I do best. To each their own 👍
@@TexasRealEstate Respect man, great content. 👍🏾
@@Salubrious101 Thank you! I appreciate your support! 🙌
i HAVE A 2004 CAYENNE S BOUGHT WITH 222,000 MILES ON IT TWO DAYS AFTER BUYING IT MY BATTERY WAS BAD YES UNDER NTHE DRIVERS SEAT 271 DOLLARS BUT WHAT i CANT GET AN ANSWER TO IS WHY DO I HAVE ANOTHER IDENTICAL BATTERY UNDER THE REAR FLOOR WHERE A SPARE TIRE SHOULD BE UNDERNEATH A STUPID 8 INCH SUBWOOFER THE SIZE OF WHAT THE TIRE SHOULD BE NO ONE CAN TELL ME WHY I HAVE TWO BATTERIES SEEMS OVERKILL TO ME
I'd probably run that by a Porsche tech or maybe ask on the Porsche forum.
THANKS, i TAKE IT YOU DO NOT HAVE A SECOND BATTERY EITHER. IT IS VERY WIERD SINCE I DONT HAVE THE AIR RIDE SUSPENSION OR ANY OUT OF THE ORDINARY ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND THIS BATTERY WAS PUT THERE BY THE DEALER OR FACTORY AS IT SITS IN A BOX LIKE THE FRONT BATTERY AND HAS THE SAME IDENTICAL COVER OVER THE TOP OF THE BATTERY. THIS IS WIERD BUT THIS IS THE FIRST PORSCHE I HAVE OWNED AND I LOVE THIS CAR!!! IT IS A TOTAL HANDFUL OF STUFF I HAVE NEVER HAD IN A CAR OF COURSE UNTIL I BOUGHT THIS MY NEWEST CAR WAS A 1997 CHEVY LUMINA AND THANK YOU MAM FOR REAR ENDING ME AND TOTALING OUT MY CAR.STATE FARM SAID MY CAR WAS WORTH 2970.OO I ONLY PAID 400 FOR IT AND NOW I DRIVE A PORSCHE! IT IS IN AWESOME SHAPE WAS OBVIOUSLLY CARED FOR LOVINGLY IT HAS TO BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED AT 68 I DESERVE A RIDE THAT HAS CLASS! THANKS FOR GETTING BACK TO ME AGAIN I LOVE MY CAYENNE AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.@@TexasRealEstate
one needs to be a complete rip off to pay that muck money for that labor while most of it is pretty much DIY (except computer calibration and tier replacement/balancing)
To each their own. I'm not a DIYer, my time is more highly valued in other places than working on vehicles. I'm happy with the value and service I received for the price.
how much for brakes on these things?
I got a great deal on new rotors and pads based on a recommendation I found online for rockauto.com. All in parts and labor for the new HPFP, 4 Rotors and pads installed, as well as the oil / filter change came out to $1,928 when I had that all done. Can't remember how much was for the rotors but I believe it was a smaller part of that bill.
@@TexasRealEstate rockauto has porsche parts for cheaper?
@@definitionXrp Not sure what all they have but for the rotors at the time, it was the best price I found anywhere for a new set.
You should also account for depreciation.
Good point! It somewhat reflects in the car payment I'm factoring in but I will do an update with the final #'s when I sell it, to account for depreciation and the total cost of ownership.
If you're going to go that far, you need to start factoring opportunity cost too. Opportunity cost is THE biggest expense with vehicles by far.
@@TexasRealEstate You touched on that when referring to property and investment, and the finance takes care of most of that, but the ongoing running costs should also be included to be a complete and full picture. Haha number nerd here.
@@DiscoFang 100% I agree. I think I'd lose a lot of people if I factored opportunity cost into the numbers, but I might have to just for fun in a future update.
who did you use for financing this great old car at 1.9%?!?!?!?!?!
1.95% to be exact through RBFCU which is a local credit union. That was the lowest rate at my time of purchase around March 2018. Current rates there are as low as 2.45%. So to answer your question - I'd try any local credit union you have for starters, they usually have the best rates vs banks.
The cost of my 08 STI and more over 12 months bog standard.... I prefer the ego trip
I had a 04 STI tuned to 500hp at one point. Amazing cars for the money, especially when you up the power like that. Night and day difference between how that car drives and feels vs the Cayenne GTS. It just depends on what you want from the experience, I opted for the experience the Cayenne had to offer for daily purposes. Already had my C6 Z06 for speed and fun when I bought it. 🙂
@@TexasRealEstate lmao such a legend
Not sarcastic
@@NapoleonDynamite69 I appreciate you!