Is buying a used bike from The Pro's Closet worth it?
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the brake pad not going down all the way is a big safety hazard, since the top of the pad isnt contacting the rotor this means that when the pads wear down they will press against each other instead of the rotor.
I agree.If you previously had Shimano rotors on there the caliper might be set up for 203mm and the Hope will probably be 200mm. The size should be written on the adaptor as part of the model number, for example I have a Shimano SM-MA90-F203P/PM sitting in front of me which is to take 180mm 'post' mount up to 203mm.
Definitely should try a 203mm rotor😮
Life is all about taking risks
@@sandy_knight correct, it had 23mm adapters and he used 200mm hopes.
Be prepared for some mysterious creaking developing around the BB. It won’t be the BB though, it’ll be that garbage Next crankset. I’ve had delamination issues in two sets. It’s a common problem with them and RaceFace will not warranty them. Sweet bike!
you have a 200mm rotor but the break mount is for 203mm rotors. and yes you definitely need to change this
no you dont lol
@@mason.3640 Yes you do
@@mason.3640 yes u do
The post mount on the 38 is for a 200mm rotor, you use a different washer on the bolts for a 203mm rotor. If this was not the case you would not be able to run SRAM brakes on a 38.
I meant the break mount on the rear. But you are right about the front
The extra weight was probably added by the handguards and rear mudguard😉
I'm thinking the pedals too
@@EvansMTBSaga oh yeah I forgot😅 It’s probably not the best for the trails, but I ride everyday, even in the sloppiest of mud, the trail you were riding didn’t even look that bad.
bro is riding trails wider then the highway and using handguards 💀
Y you hatin???
True. But if it floats his boat, good!
those trails would be considered dry here in the UK haha wish we had something like the Pro Closet over here!
That's a great looking trail, it looks like my local trails here in the UK. Lots of mud and rocks but mine has a crap ton of slippery roots too.
Sometmes you just gotta ride when it wet and muddy, like here in the UK 80% of the year the trails will be like that, just gotta take it as it comes.
Mud guards and bike washes exist for a reason I guess :)
mucoff gang
same in New Zealand
With these kinds of trails, if you ride them in the wet, it can totally destroy them.. Makes huge ruts and the builders have to come out and do a lot of work to fix them.. I think that's why he was feeling guilty about riding them... Good trail etiquette!
soils are not the same everywhere. you are not supposed to ride in mud in a lot of the southern United States see the other comment about ruts.
It’s awesome seeing how much more confident you’ve grown on the bike. That chunky lead-in to the 5 foot-ish drop woulda had you shook not too long ago.
I’m curious to how something like sunset ridge at hawes would stack up vs your new found confidence and skills!
I do own myself a R6 Rallon since January, absolute beast of a bike! Previously owned a Megatower CC and I feel like 10 x times more comfortable riding the Rallon. It’s also pretty playful being a size large and 29er both front and rear. Currently running Fox Performance and full Shimano XT + a custom Darimo stem and Hydra hubs, nothing to worry about but enjoying the trails 🤩
Nevermind 😢
Super sick that your into supercross, Saturday was crazy. Glad you found a bike that you can hopefully enjoy 🤙
Lovin’ the weekly content! Keep the videos coming ❤
Thanks KD! I may take a break soon though haha. Just like a week off
Happy for you Evan! TPC is dope. Now that bikes are so expensive it's good that they keep getting "upcycled"
Sick! I bought the same bike used but it was a Rallon M-LTD from 2019. Definitely one of the best enduro bikes out there, I don't regret buying it used at all.
Another great video! I kinda like the hand guards but haters gonna hate. Your living the dream dude. Keep doing what you do and we will keep watching!
I ride both MTB and Dirt Bike, but mostly dual sport and single track on my Husky FE350. On the Raceface Offset rims, they make a specific offset spacer to make your valve stem sit flush and straight. I had to email them to order directly from them.
Love the content man! I'm an old dude like yourself (32) and grew up riding/racing moto, still ride! Within the last 3 years got into mtbing for the fitness and I love it! You and I seem to be alot alike, I'm a huge Eli Tomac fan as well!! He's got this SX season just about wrapped up! Let's see if he can get another MX title this summer!!
Nice dude! We've been mtbing the same length then. Idk if Tomac will be great outdoors. This '23 bike is not like that amazing '22. I hope he does another season or two. I doubt he retires this year!
32 is old lol.
I was 32 in 1990 and you're feeling old?
The Galfer rotors you took off are actually excellent in terms of stopping power. Don’t throw them out!
I have a used 2016 Trek Slash 8, 65 head angle, 170mm Lyrik fork, XT 4 piston brakes, nice 160mm RockShox shock, SLX drivetrain, KS Integra dropper, bought it 2 years ago, checked the bike properly before picking it up, other than bleeding the brakes & servicing the fork & shock everything was great with it, 2 years later I've only changed the shock bearings, headset stuff, rear hub because I broke it and will now change the cassette & chain :)
I am very happy with the bike, it barely has any scratches on it and I got it really cheap, $1700 USD, new, back in 2016 it was $3500/$4000, the dude also gave me 2 spare sets of new Magic Marry & Hellcat 2.6 tyres.
It depends where you get the bike from, proper check and a bit of luck :)
Good video!
Loving the easy listening sound track. Seriously, it's dope. Also if you want to feel moto, ride a download bike with a double crown fork.
Got the exact same Rear Fender on my Focus Sam² to protect the Main Pivot Bearing from all the Mud.
Cheap, does its Job and stays silent in the Background!
Everything is great about TPC but their prices are wayyyy too high. I see similar specd bikes on marketplace for much less. I guess in some parts of the country there might not be too many used alternatives so I could see where it would be good there.
This exactly. I can't imagine trying to save $1500 on a $7K bike and having it show up with scratches and gouges all over. A few of those look pretty deep. The value proposition is just not there with their inflated covid pricing.
I lost my mind when I saw they had a 2019 trek for almost as much as a brand new one, why would I want to get that when it's not saving any money
You should look into custom decals and make a video about testing durability of frame decals!
Awesome man, i have an orange accent on my bike too. Same deity seat clamp! Just gotta get those pedals in orange now
I think a perfectly fine & fun riding in the light mud condition. Great video!!!!
Your definition of 'mud' and my definition of mud is a whole different thing. Coming to you from Lake Placid New York. Keep sending it and don't be scared of a little dirt.
You don't need/want to loosen the pinch bolt on the 38 every time you remove the wheel. Just needs one time setup for a given hub/wheel.
I love my 2020 Rallon, super fun bike. I'm sure you'll love it as well!
In Denver we have some trails with tight brush where hand guards are sooo nice to have especially when breaking out the e-bikes
I loved racing Moto and I miss it a lot. I switched to MTB a few years ago because it’s safer. Looking forward to the next vid!
Sick! My daily driver is a 22’ Rallon m-ltd . I did the same exact thing with the cabling. I went with a Wolf Tooth headset. Mine has a coil shock. 😎
Oh dang I had no clue you were on an Orbea. It's so light it makes for a perfect daily driver! That's funny you did the same with the cables. It's worth the effort
Those hand guards are hideous 🤢
Haha I get it that they're polarizing. I'm loving them!
i’ve been running hand guards on both of my bikes for the last year. Now that the trails in SoCal are overgrown with our super bloom from all the rains, my buddies are complaining about brake levers being hit by brush. I don’t even notice it.. having ridden motorcycles for years I guess it’s just something I’m used to, but there is zero downside to hand guards and they offer protection from branches and on cool winter night rides my hands are warmer since they’re not getting 15 mph breeze the entire time
Your laugh is too geniune and wholesome. I love hearing it.
I dont know what that is but it looks awesome. Who knew purple and orange would look good. Well done
I grew up on bmx and motocross. Now at 31 with 3 kids. It's too hard to find time to ride Moto. I can get local trails after work or on lunch breaks and minimize risk. I miss Moto. But there with a family depending on me I just ride mtb... I think it's cool to ride mud. I've been doing it more lately on trails that allow it. It makes you a better rider.
I’m sure many of us out here watching your channel would appreciate a first impressions video and then a long term review of the Rallon after the season is up
I come from hare scramble moto racing and I now race enduro mtb but handguards on a MTB has to be the dumbest shit.
Haha I started reading your comment thinking you were gonna say they're cool and you use them
*just sitting here judging the hand guards*😮
On the valve stem the inside bushing is what holds the air, the outside oring is just to not have metal on metal
wow I have noticed ur sub count an its growing quickly! hopefully 100k by the end of the year!
Heck yeah! I hope it's 100k by July
@@EvansMTBSaga sweet!
@@EvansMTBSaga Yea these new videos are becoming more intriguing especially as the channel follows your MTB progression from upgrading walmart bikes to beating literal Athletes while raising kids! it must be the dad strength!
edit lol I did not know that u were going to say the same at 9:30
I’d love to see a video from you on how to wash a bike a clean a lube a chain. Basic maintenance thing. 👍🏼
Definitely heard the "that's a lot of money for something without a motor" comment before. But, luckily for me, it was from relatives who also mountain bike and dirt bike so it isn't like they were taking shots at mountain biking.
Any kind of MTB is expensive. The emtbs even with the motor and battery are practically the same price now for the comp models. Why did we choose such an expensive sport lol?...
Hey Evan. Try your Orbea on something fast with bigger jumps. That trail was slowing you down a bit. Good looking bike... Although not a fan of the hand guards. They look like a Chad thing 😉
Wrong size rotor adapter for the rear. Also for the rattling you’re heating up front, get rid of those finned shimano pads. They rattle like crazy.
I’m not sure why you think it’s wrong to ride in the mud, that’s pretty much all we do in the uk 😂 those hand guard’s though are dreadful!
Yeh I was thinking what mud is he talking about, he should see the slop we ride in in the UK. Makes it so much more interesting, and when it dries it's rutty as hell..even more fun.😃
Yep. Literally laughed when he moaned about the mud. Those conditions are prime UK trail conditions 😂
The organizations who fund and build the trails in the area ask riders to stay off them when they are muddy so they are not constantly having to repair surfaces. Most area riders want them to keep funding and building trails so we try to respect their wishes!
There are lots of trails with native surfaces we ride when it's wet.
Yeah I saw almost no mud, a few puddles that was it, for a uk trail that’s semi dry conditions 😂
It's not about getting dirty....it destroys those kinds of trails..
Rented a Rallon last year in Colorado, it was a fantastic bike,
have the exact same bike. Love it
Editing and video production have leveled up. Closest channel to Seth in the MTB genre.
Thanks man that's super kind of you
You should try an Enduro race. I know that the Orbea Rallon is known for being a full-on race bike. And I hope Eli wins this year but I also hope Cooper heals up fast.
This is even better content better than Berm Peak, the orange fox would go with black personal preference, & the hand guards not complaining about it.
Yo Evan I’m a big fan of the channel I was wondering what pedals you have on your new Orbea thanks !!
Point inspections mean nothing unless physical replacements were made. Other than that, they're just a fancy term for "seems okay, won't change it," which is not very assuring.
Come to New Zealand and do some riding in the north island. Auckland has a few cool spots then you could move on to Rotorua.
7:30 You should check out the new Mudhugger Rear Large MK2 It covers whole top of the tyre and the new thing is it covers down to the chain stay too. I just ordered one. I use I use the MK1, it's been great.
of course a hard crash might snap the tip, but other than that very durable.
MK2 can be attached with zip ties as before, but also with provided Velcro straps.
There is also a bolt on front guard, which fits this fork, but with EXT ERA which I have it will require modification to get it to fit, I ordered it too, I will see if I can fit it.
Another great video by the way.
Thanks Clint! I bit longer and more chilled out than I normally do
The moment i saw the hope rotors i knew you weren't joking around. I love them but i just can't justify spending that much on a component that can basically be wasted if it gets contaminated, as they never perform the same afterwards
Have you experienced rotors that couldn't be cleaned? Pads are one thing, I've had some success saving contaminated pads. With rotors they don't absorb oil like the pads do. Clean them with iso alcohol or acetone and they always come out like new.
@@dylan-5287 i have used brake cleaner that is suposed to be wiped off after it dries, but the pads just can't seem to get the same bite as before and i'm missing about 40% of the brake's strenght, despite bleeding them onto near perfection and using many tricks to get the pads to bed in. I have sanded the rotors with a not too fine nor too aggresive paper and that hasn't worked either, tried to sand the pads and to rub them toghether with water like Doddy from GMBN advices. The good thing is that i had a lot of braking to spare so i don't mind, as i can still stop perfectly fine.
It looks like a fun ride where I could develop & hone some skills. It doesn’t really look like enduro territory though. A locked in trail bike seems like it would rip there! Unfortunately where I live there are no man made trails tailored to progression. Fortunately the natural terrain is pretty awesome.
Shimano rotors are 180,203.. etc, your hope rotor is 200mm, that's why you need a smaller adaptor. You need one with 20mm rise to use this rotor safely.
As for the pads, take them out and look if they been contacting the disc wrong. In time they could just wear out wrong but we all know you will replace that bike way before that happens :D
Nice new bike! Congrats!
Whats happen with Canyon 125?:) i heard that ther are a lot of volume spacer in work and shock, and after removing them its like normal spectral 150 :) maybe its materiał for video? I will love it :)
love the look of orbea bikes, might have to bring them into the store one day ;)
It's funny you mention you like motocross, when I first started watching your channel I thought you reminded me a bit of Justin Barcia! 😂
Yea these new videos are becoming more intriguing especially as the channel follows your MTB progression from upgrading walmart bikes to beating literal Athletes while raising kids! it must be the dad strength!
edit lol I did not know that u were going to say the same at 9:30
thank god back to your old ays with dream builds
Glad you're pumped on it Isaac
Awesome video, now Charles wants orange accents on his Rocky Mountain! What have you done Evan!?!? Lol
I'm not even a big fan of orange but it just works!
I saw him racing the dirt jumper series. Was he on the new MTB?
@@EvansMTBSaga no he was on his dirt jumper, he has a list of things he wants on that RockyMountain!
Good times. That’s a big bike. Colorado style. 🎉
its sick bro ❤
Thanks Mano!
Time to enter some races. That would be great content. Also would love to see you do an epic event like Judgement Day and Dallas.
bro i think the extra pound came from those hand guards lol. I like your music choice!
rain, mud, snow, rabid wolverines........doesn't matter, as long as you're riding. ok, maybe not with rabid wolverines, but i'm sure you get my point. beautiful park, sick bike and great video, bro.
Riding in the mud is 100% dependent on where you are riding. Some soil types are fine to ride in the mud while others get destroyed and are hard to fix. I just rode Galbraith in Bellingham, WA and wet mud riding is normal and allowed there. Riding in the mud is a different kind of fun but boy is it messy and annoying to clean up! My home trails you are not allowed to ride in the mud as it makes them incredibly hard to repair.
The Bentonville trails are mainly clay capped and okay to ride in mud, but these trails had different clay and it was super sticky and in some areas majorly sticking to the tires 💀
Galby is horrible in the wet lol... Like riding through thick pudding!
@@meganNefarious it was definitely a little spicy when wet! I don’t think I’d want to do that full time but was a fun experience to try it.
Riding mud is great but you gotta be wary of chewing up trails too much! Those big arse rivets oround the outside of the hope rotors can rub on other brands calipers so keep an eye on that too when you're correcting the gap.
Raced motocross and area cross for over 12 years fell in love with mtb is great to keep u in shape and still very moto like if u like dh and parks
Heck yeah AX is gnarly! I like how moto guys are just fearless on MTB
Centennial is probably the slowest to dry out after a rain. It also doesn't get love from the paid trail crews like Bentonville, so please be easy on it! But we've all been there, thinking "oh I probably shouldn't be on this trail" 😄
Yeah and now there's heavy shade coverage throughout! Really excited to go back and thanks for the info/comment
Evan you're a bona fide mountain biker now you can't be afraid of a little mud lol. I remember when I was a teenager me and my friends would go out with our cheap Walmart mountain bikes and go "boggin" which was our term for riding through the nastiest muddiest stuff we could find.
Totally get why you think the seat clamp is the coolest part ... I have a $10,000 Mach 6 and despite all the fancy components, it's the oil slick bolts in my Apex stem I love most!
Haha I'm glad you get it. I've had my manhood questioned today because I added some colored components 😂
Sorry, those hand guards must go😅
Never! Well actually if they break I'll toss them haha. They're pretty cheap feeling!
@@EvansMTBSaga stick to what makes you happy. Always great content Evan 👍🏻
Sweet build. This is the bike I want next.
It's a pretty good bike! Enduro bike that acts like a trail bike
@@EvansMTBSaga That's more my style for the terrain I ride. Lots of climbs for the short steep descents. You can get this build lighter for everyday use if you go with a Lyric or Fox 36, but a 38 or Zeb fits the bike parks you ride. It can fit a coil, but then you add weight. Seems like a quiver killer for many riders who frequent mixed tech terrain. Gulevich rides the biggest stuff on this bike.
@@petedog9581 Gully is a different rider, though. This is a great bike, but from everything I gathered it's more of a race bike. It's not as forgiving and comfortable as others in this category.
@@rrolleman4879 I ride my suspension stiff like pros. Always have. I am an athletic rider, and your best suspension is always with you... your arms and legs.
Forgiving means sloppy on the terrain I ride. A lot more trials and slow tech stuff, but needing ample suspension and a nimble bike. On a 30 lbs.150/130 Stumpy now, but I need more bike. All-Mountain/Enduro Light is my next bike. This is a serious contender bc it is firm.
You had a very different experience with the Pro's Closet. Maybe having a CZcams channel helps with that. I bought a Guerilla Gravity. Had a Magura rotor with a Sram caliper. They just adjusted the contact down so it wouldn't drag. The caliper and rotor both needed to be replaced. Derailleur needed to be replaced. Frame was banged up far beyond what the pictures showed. Chain stay guards were barely hanging on. The list goes on, it was a total basket case that took a lot of money to get right. Wouldn't do it again.
Big fan of the Pros Closet.
Takes out some of the risk of a used bike and just simply more convenient
Agreed!
They are way too expensive for aging bikes.
I know you work hard dude and i think this bike is much more you! Not sure on the hand guards but looks great otherwise!
We ride in the mud here my guy..bein a temperate rainforest and all..mud adds that butt puckering excitement we all need👍
I got my "used" bike from there and it was brand new... Worked out for me
You’ll love this bike I had an orbea ocaam am and it was awesome
You should do a high vs low series again but for one bike have a really nice frame with low parts and a really low frame with high parts to see if it’s mostly components or frame
As soon as the hope rotors are back in stock in red, I'll use your link to snag a couple.
Didn't see a link for the torque wrench... Got one?
The hand guard killed it
Hi Evan I was wondering if you could do an essential tool video, would be handy to know that stuff.
Good idea. I could work that in
@@EvansMTBSaga Right on! Great channel btw :)
I reckon you’ve got a 203 caliper setup on a 200 rotor. Change those adapters asap. 👍🏼👍🏼
Total bummer for Tomac! Love the setup!
So sad right!
Ive heard that when you mix different rotors from brand and bake calipers from another brand that can cause problems with caliper alignment
Nice bike!!
I used to race motocross. I've been to a lot of Supercross races, clear back to the mid-nineties. I've been fortunate to meet almost all my mx heroes, multiple times. It was my dream to be a pro-motocross racer. God had different plans, (better plans). 😁
I ride hand guard love the save brakes levers too looked like ur chain was lil big in ur low gear want that derailleur clutch have lil tension on in
Interesting! I'll check that
Weight isn't a bad thing unless you're primary focus is climbing.. The weight needs to be what it needs to be for the style of riding you do. A lot of DH racers would be purposely add weight to their race bikes. That's why the 50+ lb e-bikes still handle and jump really well. I think a 36-38 lb enduro is just about the right mix.
The bikes similar to specialized stump jumper evo? I would never buy a mullet. Can you imagine riding my long distance 40-60 and carrying 2-4 tubes 27.5 and 29? Horrible. I am looking at the yeti sb160 😅. I got the yeti sb140 29er and I love it! Super light, fast, and incredible ride!
Very cool bike and a bit jealous to be honest, not a lover of the hand gaurds but each to there own...
Are you ever going to try a E-MTB ? Would be great to see what you thought of them.
Haha I'm holding out for an E-Bike! I just don't want to get addicted to them tbh
@@EvansMTBSaga the way I look at it is, the more times you can manage to go up, the more times you have to come down... And that's where all the fun is for me 😁.... But keep up the great work either way 👍
My bikes previous owner said he got it serviced right before I bought it and I didn’t have too much time to test it when I bought it. Took it home and the pivot linkage was full of sand, the bearings were caked, the right brake didn’t work, and the gears didn’t shift 😂😂😂 great bike though
I received an offer from TPC on my 2019 Full Dura Ace Cannondale SuperSix (with about 150 miles on it) which was so low that I decided instead to give it away to a kid down the street who was in love with it. I figure I'll feel much better about giving it to an aspiring young rider than I will be getting ripped off by TPC.
Sweet bike! You said for the season. So you’re going to have to send it back? I watch a lot of Dustin Klein gravel bike videos. He rides quite a few badass bikes from The Pro’s Closet.
Well they want me to experience the buyback program that they offer. So I'm really curious what they'd buy the bike back for. If they don't low ball, I could see myself selling others that I have
I’ve been so close to picking up an XC bike from pros closet. It’s just hard to justify an additional $300 for taxes and shipping. That brings into play paying shipping on pink bike,
Hey Evan, Are you planning on heading to Great Passion Play? That place has some awesome chunk!
I rode there last month. I couldn't really find my way around and felt like I was climbing the entire 4 hour ride
@@EvansMTBSaga That’s sort of what that place is about. Ride down and back up multiple times. It’s not easy by any means. Over 4 days of riding I climbed over 5200’. I wish I lived up there I’d be happy to take you around.