No more mutants | Avengers and X-Men: House of M
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- The Avengers and the X-Men are faced with a common foe that becomes their greatest threat: Wanda Maximoff. The Scarlet Witch is out of control, and the fate of the entire world is in her hands. Pick it up here: amzn.to/2eybZ46 Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #xmen
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This was a pretty enjoyable video. Keep it up!
TVLittleHouse Yea sure. Send me a message and we'll get something worked out.
Can you please do a video that explains at a very high level how all the Marvel epics fit together? I'm including all mutant and non-mutant epics.
I enjoy your channel especially your civil war explanation
And so it began XD
TVLittleHouse I don't know. What are the choices and reasons for each choice?
6:36
*Tiffany (at home, sitting in her chair when she suddenly sits up):* _"Ethan."_
I fucking love this series. Having one person who's an expert on the comic and 2 friends who haven't read it is fucking genius.
Cause they're gonna ask all the logical questions viewers are gonna have.
I hate it when people say that Spiderman isn't dark. I think he is, but he also provides plenty of humor to counter it. Look at his stories, they're incredibly dark. His girlfriend is killed because of her relationship with him. His best friend becomes a drug addict and eventually tries to kill him. His uncle was killed directly because of his actions. Black Cat dumps him for being himself. His boss mistreats him constantly. Venom. Carnage. Kraven's Last Hunt. The Torment storyline. House of M. Superior Spiderman. The Clone Saga. Civil War. Back In Black. The core of Spiderman, to me, seems to be about this guy who struggles to maintain his sanity and benevolence despite experiencing constant trauma throughout his lifetime.
Or when Peters mentor, and father figure, Dr. Connors turns into a deadly monster that tries to kill him and others.
Well said
His stories are mature. We relate to him because he goes through real world problems that we all have to deal with. Death, betrayal and trauma is all a part of real life. His constant struggle to maintain his positivity and altruism through it all is what makes him endearing. I wouldn't necessarily call that "dark" though.
@@samgilley3160he literally is the word brevity incarnate to me lol its what makes that exploration of darkness so compelling, he isn't the Punisher, he's the friendly neighborhood hero despite it all. He's a good boy and not in a creepy kinky way
Genosha was destroyed by a giant Sentinel being controlled by Cassandra Nova, Professor Xavier's twin sister, in New X-men by Grant Morrison. Awesome story.
... Was it though
@@onyxx5713for a bit yeah but even islands can resurrect in comix lol
Cassandra Cain is the awesome batgirl, Cassandra nova was the x villian
Agreed I love Cassandra Cain. She is my favorite Bat Girl.
Fighter Pilot Stephanie Brown?
Thank you! I thought that name was close, but not quite right. Its Nova, not Cain.
"Why doesn't Quicksilver run really fast and get away?"..Right?! lol
I always love when Sal goes, "Daaah!!" to represent a character's freak out.
Geez, I heard Cassandra Cain had a meanstreak in Batman, but damn, she killed all those Mutants?
No wonder Marvel doesn't wanna do crossovers.
+OreoBrawl dur hur
So, basically, all of this plus avengers dissassembled could have been avoided if someone just went to Wanda and sayd "why don't you adopt?"
Painter Lava Lamp they might make a marvel version of Jason Tod
"You know there are plenty of kids without parents, right Wanda? Especially Mutants, if you want them to be like you?"
Yes ..... and there are women in the real world spending like 100k+ trying to get pregnant even though they're barren. The tragedy of this story is unending lol
That's pretty great that Days of Future Past kind of has a call back to House of M with Wolverine's memory.
Ethan and Ben switched sides, OCD can't take it!
"God Bomb" is the first Thor story, from "Marvel Now". You follow Thor in three different time periods. Young Thor, Modern Thor and King Thor.
That sounds cool, actually!
My science teacher about a year or two before us had a kid with an actual mutation. So when they were talking about mutation and the good kinds of mutation the kid raises his hand and says he has webbed feet like a frog. they didnt believe him so he took off his socks and shoes and he had webbed feet lile a frog! so he can actually swim really really well.
Is it like a partial fusing of his toes? Like those people who end up with 3 fingers because the other two actually fused into either of them?
Part of the reason why Xavier does not wipe Scarlet Witch's mind is that he has done the mind wipe thing before on Magneto, which resulted in Onslaught, which was a terrible story arc. I also have a theory that the way they sold Avengers comic books before the movie was by not only making them the most popular characters, but by having them cross over with the X-Men, their historically best selling series. They were somewhat linked by Quicksilver/ Scarlet Witch/ Magneto, and occasionally Beast. This story arc allowed the X-Men to pretty much blame the Avengers for all their problems and hold the Avengers accountable for never trying to help mutants causing the two series to become even more linked, which still affects both of the series to this day.
Wasn't Spider-man there most popular selling character before the 2008 Iron man movie? Or was it both X-men and Spider-man?
@@nattychamps9098 yes and X-Men was the most selling marvel team
Loved this story and the artwork. I especially loved how Cyclops was the one leading the charge. He doesn't get near as much credit as he deserves
When I read that event I also read some of the tie-ins. Spider-Man's story is explored in more depth (he black-mails himself and reveals that he's a human because he subconsciously knows this isn't real/right) and Iron man isn't a robot, Tony and his father are like gladiators but at one point Tony joins the resistance
My theory is that Scarlet Witch can only change wat she has knowledge of, so if she changes reality, places like Asgard wouldn't be affected by her powers because she has no knowledge of it.
+Flex Buffchest True but if she makes reality as she knows it, maybe all the places she doesn't know about aren't even created again... Although it seems like she just has the power to fix stories at this point.
@@morganmaceachern1214she literally has that power now, how ironic lmao
Hawkeyes always shooting somebody out of no where 😂😂😂😂 first Wanda then Banner (in Civil War 2)
Getting this recommended after watching WandaVision is delightfully appropriate
Ben: Can we not call him Chuck?
Sal: Wolverine calls him Chuck! Okay fine: Professor Charles Xavier.
Ben: We don't have to be so formal..
hahaha So good.
That guy on the left is super cute
You guys are the best I'm never reading another comic again it's far more greater if I just watch y'all and the highly entertaining way y'all break it down
You guys are my new favourite channel! Making my way through these a few a day, made my new year! Thanks chums!
Thank you, Dean!
6:22 Ben predicts infinity war
Probably been covered but I think it was casandra nova, Cassandra Cain was Batgirl.
Cool to go back and be able to appreciate the taughts you always put in your intro scene. Back issues really is a unique shos
Another liked before viewing. And I am sure I will enjoy bc it is TV Little House.
Seriously Sal everything you upload is quality. Thanks for making my life better.
Zach Couch Anytime, Zach
TV Little House is dead. It's Comic Pop brah
+Gen Shishio TV little house lives on in the O of Comic POP.
Ben: "....ok.....can we call him CHARLES?!?!??...." hahaha
Cassandra Nova Xavier unleashed a group of super sentinels against the nation of Genosha. Magneto was heavily wounded (and I think he was unpowered at the time) the sentinels were designed to adapt, but the spearhead of the attack was a HUGE super impervious sentinel with bullcrap death beams that could flash fry people in an instant over a pretty extended area. There were survivors of the Genoshian massacre, but all the mutants with crappy powers died without much fight (not all mutants are born equal guys. For every Magneto or Professor X there are like fourteen "Angels") either from all the death beams or from the smaller super adaptable sentinels or the rubble of the huge skyscrapers which all had advertisements for coke for some reason. The mutants we follow in comics are all the really powerful mutants. Most mutants suck.
Can somebody please explain all of the Marvel sagas/epics that exist in Marvel involving the mutants and non-mutans at a high level and how they all fit together? I see books of about 300 pages of sagas, but I don't just into a story until I understand all of the Marvel sagas and how they all fit together. Has anyone ever created something to show that? So examples are like: Days of future past, Age of a Apocalypse, House of M, all the Avengers stuff involving non-mutants. Marvel should have this mapped out so people will buy the books.
Marvel Explained does a great job of giving you a linear timeline of the epic Marvel events, but not quite a full X-Men timeline. I'll tell you what, though-- if we had enough demand to do something like that, we'd definitely consider it. In the meantime, if you want to just start reading X-Men, you could grab the trade of All-New X-Men and start there, and when they mention an event, you could pick up that story in trade format. And if you have a curiosity, just go grab it! The Phoenix Saga, Chris Claremont / Frank Miller's Wolverine, Decimation, House of M-- you could grab any of them and enjoy a cool story.
Age of apocalypse was where I dropped out of comics, when I came back I came back with House of M as starting point. Gotta soft spot for it, despites its faults
I missed out on reading House of M and it's always entertaining to hear friends recount all it's inanity. Sal really caught my attention around 32:40 when he recounts Wolverine had regained his memory and a small side-story of some gov't official losing his ish and offing himself! So it got me wondering what are the best Wolverine story arcs post House of M that are directly related to his memory?
IMAmysterYee Thanks!
I actually loved House of M. It was one of my favorites for a long time.
Besides my entire comics collection from the 90's, I only had two trades: House of M, and X-Men vs. Apocalypse vol. 1.
One of these is good, the other... not so much.
This event showcases Scarlet Witch's true powers....dayyummm....I forgot how powerful she is... imagine if she said "NO MORE HUMANS or NO MORE AVENGERS" instead? that would've been way more fucked up than no more mutants. Plus, I think she's one of the few heroes who could possibly overpowered Thanos with given time or preparations and focus.
Good episode. I liked your idea to do just single issues, or single graphic novels. Like you did with Spawn, you could do other character's histories. Oh, and please, when you talk about how awesome a page's artwork is (like in the Spawn episode), could you screenshot it for us?
Um Layla Miller was a character in X-Factor. She was always weird and knowing "too much". She has the ability to see stuff and she has been hinting for a while that her role would be what it was in the House of M.
Also Wanda reasons for her "trip" was that she lost control of her powers and she cause the destruction of the Avengers. She killed the man she loved. Vision. She was full of regret after that. This manifests as her daydreaming of having kids and a family with Vision.
First appearance: House of M #4. She was created to advance the plot.
Sigh oh snap. Really I so remember her in Xfactor I assumed she was there before. My bad.
@@comicpop So they kept the deus-ex-machina character for the following X-Factor series? That does not make me want to read that, at all...
The end of issue one is SUCH a strong hook. Its frustrating that it immediately turns into a wolverine story and we only really get one scene exploring Peter's place in the house of M.
I know its an x-men story, but I felt like it would've been way more compelling told from Peter's perspective.
10:27 Ben: "Can I ask who their mother is?"
10:30 Me: "Now that's a MILF!"
havent u guys read new x-men by grant morrison?
in the beginning of that run cassandra nova, basically xaviers evil villian
sends out a huge army of sentinels which wipes out genosha
cassandra NOVA! also the white queen lol
Well, Spiderman was angry because all this happines was a lie
Great story and I agree the mutants should have stopped the nuke😂😆
I don't think it actually WAS a nuke. I think it was the sentinels?
Cassandra Cain is Batgirl. So... Lol
Hey Cassandra Cain is awesome.
almost at 10,000 views! great job guys!
Great work as always guys! Thanks for doing House of M! I was stoked when I saw this in my subscription feed lol Do you know what other events you're doing in the future?
Taybur, you mean events we're attending or "event books" we're discussing?
Ethan Marsh TVLittleHouse Well I initially was asking about which book events but I'm glad to hear you guys are getting out to alot of events!
TVLittleHouse I hope Age of Apocalypse is on the list, other than that I look forward to watching whatever you come out with!
FACTS:Had to go back to their genesis and see why I fuck with them so HEAVY
one (M)ore to go, I'm in a Back Issues marathon
I told Ellie about the X-Men in 1992, at a programming facility in Kansas City, KS.
Eerie how prophetic the X-Men comics are. The Alien series, too.
Old comic pop is the best comic pop. (new is okay too but old just brings up the nostalgia)
Who’s here after WandaVision premiered?
My problems with comic are that when they wanted to kill Scarlet Witch, Peter says if i loose controle over my powers will you kill and then wolverine tells him we will same thing to me. I don't think the spider sense can turn Peter to a bad guy and make him over powered or the healing factor turns wolverine into the Scarlet Witch. I thought Peter doesn't Kill
Lmfao best summary of House of M ever.
Will you ever do Decimation or even better Messiah Complex
I also never got why Wanda never considered adoption. Like you dont need to make kids that arent real. There are plenty ty of real kids out there you can have that need a mom. Was she afraid she wouldnt pass the home exam
Guys please do Ultimate Spiderman vol 1
Wow cant believe this was 4 years ago!
what is the wolverine story with the guys that kills him self. (issue number)
How do Wanda ' s powers compare to those of Proteus? I loved his run in the Xmen.
Great video guys! Keep it up! A question though... where was The Hulk during the House of M? Was he killed/wiped out by Wanda too? \m/
I think Hulk was fighting monsters in an epic story called Planet Hulk. Not 100% on that, though.
When did Ethan and Ben switch sides?
Hey my favorite House of M
i died when hearing a random government people destroys the evidence and kills themselves once they know wolverine remembers everything
They should have called this story "What A Wanda-ful World"
If Wanda wants kids fucking adopt them
Who is here after WandaVision 2021???
Awesome keep up the good work
Good video and good story arc.
Why doesn't Quicksilver run away really fast so he doesn't get squished? Hmmm...maybe he was emotionally compromised?
Have you read the ties in explaining the friendship magneto/xavier in house of M and the death of xavier ( Civil War: House of M ), if yes do you think it should have been in the main event to help understand a little more the world ?
Because i felt that the main event was a little rushed why i read it.
I didn't, but you're right. It did feel pretty rushed.
TV Little House Comics Excalibur v3 12 issue run follows the development of Xavier/Magneto friendship, if i remember correctly. I remember liking it.
but Polaris doesn't have powers but she remembers that she had powers!!!
In what comic does a guy shot himself because wolverine remembers something from his past? 32:35
What I don't get is why Scarlet Witch would only bring back Hawkeye and not anyone else.
canukforce ii
Because Bendis doesn't like Vision, Agatha Harkness, Django Maximoff, Magda, Marya Maximoff, and Scott Lang.
Also I think because they truly were friends?
I remember reading some of the post material after the depowering and some of the stories are pretty horrific.... Blob story is pretty bad..and for the X-Men where a bus load of depowered mutant students were Killed off in a terrorist attack... Reading some of the stuff totally made me go.. Screw Scarlet Witch.
When he takes back his memory he baisecly says i promis you wolverine i gonna kill Scarlet Witch and Magneto for brining oncle Ben and Gwen stacy back to life then giving me a son from Gwen like i always wanted and made me happy. This what came in my mind when Peter was so upsest about it that he wanted to kill instead of being happy
Bendis only knows how to write Ultimate Peter Parker.
Well ultimate spider man is baisecly 616 spider man baised on the personality. Peter is not the person that's bad writin in this comic. Brian Michael Bendis is a great writer but didn't realy do a great job in this comic. After all it's an old comic and Brian Michael Bendis is doing a great job in writin comics like always
I liked this comic and thought Brian Michael Bendis wrote Peter Parker/Spider-Man really well in his stuff such as the New Avengers. 🤷♀️ I do not think Peter Parker would ever actually kill someone, he was just so devastated, heartbroken, and angry that he made the threat. This is not the only time he contemplated killing someone, either. Logan/Wolverine told him in the Dark Reign storyline to kill Norman Osborn if he gets a chance and Peter really does go for blood...but then when Harry Osborn is about to kill his father, Peter realises that becoming a killer will make the killer as bad as the person they are killing and stops Harry.
Loved this story,
Great video.
What happened to this set though
What is the name of that Wolverine story?
From what I remember wasn't Daredevil still blind when Wanda recreated reality?
Wanda should just adopt!
So i have to ask, have any of you ever seen the old iFanboy video shows? This has a very similar feel to those.
TVLittleHouse Also, i would love to see you take on something from the Ultimate lines, such as the train wreck of a crossover named Ultimatum.
TVLittleHouse Good to hear, keep up the great work!
I would love to see you guys do a show on Thor, God Bomb
"God Bomb," eh?
Cassandra Cain lol
Wanda has always been one of my favorite mutants, but hearing about Doctor Strange and what he does gives me a few questions. Is Scarlet Witch more powerful than Doctor Strange? And are there things that Wanda's powers can't affect or have trouble manipulating?
I think the idea is that Wanda can do most of the things Strange can, but only because her mutant ability provides a "shortcut" to the effects, without much understanding of the "how." As a result, Strange will always have an advantage, being a master of the art itself.
TVLittleHouse I think also Scarlett Witch appears incredibly powerful in this issue because she uses Professor X as a conduit into everyone on Earth's brain. Presumably Dr. Strange could do insane things like this too but chooses not to because it's reckless and irresponsible.
+ComicPOP Her Chaos Magic abilities come from CHTHON, the Elder God. He's a pretty big deal. Nothing to do with "mutant abilities" at all. Given he's an Elder God, it's fair to say the notion of Wanda being a mutant has always been silly and never mattered to her character. She's a Witch above all else.
Cassandra nova*
wait a minute Quiksilver and Scarlet witch`s mother isn't dead ? When the heck did see come back .
R this events tie ins good? I got the Spider-Man one & it looks cool
Kinda miss the old shop but were is age?
Could you consider house of m as marvels version of flashpoint?
Cyclops and Wolverine are the same character, and Jean Grey and Emma Frost are the same character. It's a big Marvel secret. That explains the Sumerian "X" in the X-Men.
Well Emma was always more interesting then Jean. :)
How did Iceman and Magneto get their powers back?
+SimplySamGaming Iceman never lost them as it turned out and Magneto is really popular.
+ComicPOP Not popular but Comic POPular.
Would house of M be possible as a Mic movie?
Do they make a Collection Book for House of M that has all the issues in one, I really want to read this storyline?
They did make a trade paperback for it but that excludes all the tie-ins
ComicPOP think you will ever do nextwave?
I find it bull that everyone gets pissed when scot summers kills professor x. But if wonder kills the mutant race, nothing really happens to her. Except for the divorce
Sounds like Marvel’s Flashpoint
Are you guys gonna do Children's Crusade?
Absolutely!
ComicPOP! They should just replace 616 Wanda with MCU Wanda as a spin-off standalone, who is frankly a superior character and concept in every way (actually, for the first time in 50 years, having decent costumes that reflect her character. You have to admit that 616 Wanda has become a misogynist's wet dream (women should not be allowed to have power), a mess of incompetent writing (retcon central), outdated, and wears a stupid tiara simply because artists are overly subservient to Jack Kirby's fetish.
For the way people talk about this book it won’t all that
Meant marvel live movie.
Is House of M before Avengers vs X-Men?
Yeah, it's quite a few events before. It pretty much goes: HoM, Civil War, World War Hulk, Secret Invasion, Siege, Fear Itself, etc.
Cool
Algorithm recommended me this years after I first saw it