I recently purchased the Zappiti Nas and have just spent two months ripping just over 1000 Blu-rays and 4K discs. Really happy with the product and so sad to hear that Zappiti is closing down. What is not clear though is what support the Nas will have? They have said that will still be able to rip movies and access our content however the Nas is a closed system... Will we be able to insert new drives into the empty slots? And will we be able to replace broken hard drives ourselves? If there closing down they really should give Nas owners full access to the Windows server Nas operating system, otherwise as soon as one of the hard drives fails the whole unit is a dustbin job.
This is why I have started to move to products that are not dependent on cloud simply because I have been burnt multiple times with hardware that a strong integration with cloud based apps. Companies are disappearing left right and centre or are dropping their cloud apps or solutions within 5 years of launching. Leads to a lot of wasted money.
Wow this sucks. I could never afford one of these players and was always worried that something like this would happen but definitely sucks for all the people that have bought into the ecosystem.
I got the Zappiti One SE 4K HDR for 350 bucks. With gift card it came to 250 bucks. It was a great machine for the price. Sure the UI was slow and laggy but overall it PLAYED EVERYTHING I THREW AT IT. 16 TB's of movies and shows! No issues! The animations and poster art and media info were all awesome as well. Had this device for over 3 years. Now it's all for naught. Probably gonna get the Zidoo Z2600 next year or something else that comes out. See how the media player landscape plays out. For now I'm gonna use the Kodi and Nova media player on my Zappiti. Man this really sucks...after 3 years of use.
This is number 1 reason why I went with zidoo was the speed scrolling through the posterwall and customization, and if you don't like HT 4.0 UI you can use emby, kodi, jellyfin. The way the landscape is changing for media players, the zidoo 5000 is my next updrade.
@@kevinrobertbrown2351 The only thing cloud based about media players is when you want to have poster art and title information for your movies and shows. I have a ton of disc but I play my movies on the Zidoo because I don’t have to continuously switch disc each time I want to watch something.
Get the Zidoo UHD5000 Shane. That’s what I did a couple of month ago. It has the latest RTD1619BPD chip and just overall better. I immediately pulled my Zappiti off the rack and never went back after my UHD5000 arrived.
Everyone that bought a box that is going out of business should get their money back or at least partial that's not right paying over $400 and getting robbed
That’s why I like physical media because you know is yours and heard that same services can retrieve movies from your account even tho you pay for them. So I hope that we still have the physical media for awhile
Jeez. I bought 2 Zappiti UHD3000 players a few months back. Guess they’ll be no more animated menus coming. Still can always install Plex on it. Praying that Apple will release an Apple TV Pro with higher bitrate video and lossless audio.
Wow, I have two Zappiti Players (Neo and Mini). This really sucks. I was two months ago that they were working on something new. Didn’t realize it was this. I now need to really think about what to buy next.
Thanks for the update sad to hear I was hoping to purchase a digital movie storage digiital device I guess I have to keep shopping I have over 10,000 physical movies and would love to transfer them a streaming device to make things a little easier, fingers crossed.
I found the Zappiti concert very interesting, as a new manufacturer it is always difficult to establish yourself in the high-end market. Hopefully the beautiful Magnetar 4k Blu Ray players will stay with us longer.
@thenoble1 you may want to recheck your info, because you could buy the Zappiti for $1000. Now, you may be thinking of the Kaleidescape Terra which can run upwards of $24,000 for the 72TB storage.
Zappiti is based on Dune hardware and software. Strange this is not mentioned in the video. On most player models Dune and Zappiti share the power supply and video board. 100% the same. Even the internal fan is the same. The in/output board is different. Low level SW is also shared. Zappiti has build on top of that there own application with cloud access. Dune don’t do this. Who knows, some clever guy can port the Dune SW into the Zappiti and make it a Dune.
Their customer service was terrible and they were incredibly rude. A dreadful company and I switched to Plex and I have never looked back. I am actually glad they closed down due to their terrible customer service and truly unpleasant staff.
Dune has actually been in the game far longer than Zappiti or Zidoo, and are still developing. If I am not mistaken, much of the hardware for the former were actually ‘legal clones’ of Dune, with Zappiti software on top. So now the choice is indeed down to Dune and Zidoo, with v similar hardware, the differentiating factor being the software.
Tbh once/if Apple introduces lossless streaming for video and audio on Apple TV, it'll put all these companies out of business for sure. I'm patiently waiting for that day to come because it'll be such a game changer
@@stepalex I mean Apple Music has Lossless audio up to Hi-Res lossless (not to mention Dolby Atmos itself!) and no one expected that to be widespread across devices. So I still have hope for it to be a thing for their own streaming service.
I think you should review the Dune HD Real Vision 4K Plus or any of their devices with the Realtek RTD1619DR media processor. I just got hold of one and am stunned how good this is for the money. I've been looking for a device that can stream 4K Dolby Vision M2TS files and was going to pull the trigger on a Magnetar as it's the only bluray player with gigabit ethernet but thought I'd give this a go. Glad I did. I think the picture quality is superb and the interface/overall performance is stunning considering it's sub £300 in the UK and it's a tiny box, no fans or mechanisms. I would be very interested to see how the picture stacks up against a Magnetar, sound quality through my Arcam processor is decent as well.
So if you have a Zapitti is there anything that you can salvage?, What i mean is can you wipe the zapitti software off it and install Plex or something similar?
Zidoo is in a different price level, yet you mentioned it, so why not using Nvidia Shield with PLEX or Kodi ? both option will have to use a storage system that needs to be created ( you can use Qnap or Synology entry level storage ) But it is definitely much cheaper compared to the Zappiti storage device
I'm having a really hard time finding the benefit of Zidoo over the Nvidia Shield. 1. The Android TV UI experience is so much better then what the Zidoo offers. 2. No google play store so you will need to locate the apk's , sideload them to and hope they will work.. 3. No support for Plex or Kodi so eventually you may find yourself in the exact same situation as Zappiti users dependent on the device media server software solution@@Gshiznit74
Thanks Shane - not exactly surprised on the news but less choice is never good. I’ve been watching the new zidoo pro units and the biggest question on those units is support. Particularly what’s being worked on and when. From the forums it seems zidoo doesn’t actively participate with user feedback which is also a bit concerning. Going to sit on the sidelines with my shield for a bit longer and see what happens.
@@MrBjorn6 I agree it’s worth. I also own a Nvidia Shield Pro. Both are great media players however with the Zidoo 2000 Pro you can store a 16TD drive without the ads that comes the Nvidia Shield Pro
I mentioned this on the Zappiti FB group around March/ April that I was worried that Zappiti would be shutting down, I was told by the group members too stop spreading rumours. I bought a Dune Pro Vision 4K Solo April this year.
@@sheldonpetrie3706 how’s unraid I’m using TrueNas Core. I had issues with TrueNas scale where smb traffic was not being seen on my Zidoo. I’m definitely going to purchase a license for unraid
Not news I was looking to here.🙁 I purchased my Zappiti Neo back in 2021 and it has some issues and was replaced for free last year. It has been working flawlessly. I was just thinking about the Zidoo products after just purchasing a Eversolo DMP-A6 to use as my main music streamer. I've had it about a month and love it as it replaced my BS Node 2i because the SQ is much better. I even connected my old ext usb blue ray optical drive to the usb port and was able to rip music CD directly to the internal SSD drive where all my music files are stored. It was pretty fast and rips to flac and wav files as well. I was also able to sideload Pandora app on it. I did not think I would find anything that sounded better than my BS Node 2i and can use for most if not all my music playback. If Zappiti is no more I was looking at the Zidoo z2600 which looks like a direct replacement for the Zappiti Neo because it has the same output connection out back. Your Thoughts? PM
That’s a terrible news dear Shane; personally i got the audiocom and the signature. The good news is zidddo just come out with the latest collection and i believe is even better than the the Zappiti!!!
I got Zidoo Z2000 pro. Waiting to format my sata drive in NTFS. Have a hard drive with ubs 2.0 with 150 UHD ripped movies and 300 Bluerays and 150 Blueray 3d.
My zidoo z9x pro just arrived, and the user experience is great, I am impressed with the play back as well. Watched Dunkirk, it looked great on the oled. It is Faster than my Zappiti for sure. Anyone experience improvements with the Zidoo 2000 or other options with the larger power supply?
Almost bought the NAS with thier reference player just because Kaleidescape is so d_m expensive and Synology requires so much hands on updating. Geez! 😢 I wonder, since it's a French based company does anybody know if they got bullied out of the Home Cinema 🎥 market? We just finished putting the final touch on a dedicated home theater and had Magnolia come over and set up the Savant controller. It is something I feel a lot of people should experience. I was going to invite Youth man (Michael) over to see it. Maybe you should come Shane. We are in Pasadena California
Typical.... I just bought the nas and a couple of players... From a business standpoint they should have charge a monthly fee this would give them a decent cash flow and enable continuous software development.
I wonder if there is a market for a company shipping a HTPC because that is what this was. More HTPC than media platform. Companies used to do it when WMC was still shipped software. Man I miss windows media center. Best of luck to the company's founders and those employees now looking for work.
Can anyone tell me if Zidoo Z1000 Pro has a Good Offline Mode ? Does it store all its Medidata on system rather than in a cloud ? Important for people with poor or limited internet siqnal. Any help would be most appreciated, cheers 🍻
@@therealshanelee Thankyou, ofcourse it's the only one that uses a cloud based setup ! 🤣 It just happens to be the one I decided to purchase...Lol, Anyway might be time to save up for a Zidoo Z1000 Pro. Thanks for the quick response. 👌
@@robdevine69 Sounds great. I looked at all 3, chose Zappitti, but after a stocking issue delayed my order I went with Zidoo. Thank you stocking issue!
Hooray when do I get to buy the most prolific home theater creator entertainer in 4k trinov michi monster of rock and congratulate on the subs. I know you do a fantastic production for content creators too.
I was so close to buying the NAS earlier this year but was concerned (thank goodness) by the closed system where you are dependent on Zappitti. Hearing the rumours about their insolvency was the clencher for me not to buy. Whew, could have been an expensive mistake. I really feel for people who invested a lot of $$$ into the NAS and players.
This is this is really sad but anybody who was paying attention shouldn't be surprised. DVD ripping has been sketchy for decades. Knowing the zappiti was breaking the DRM I figured they might eventually be a target for the US regulators and/or movie labels. So, enthusiasts should have seen thos coming, but i feel bad for the non enthusiast customers who bought these, and the installers who support them. Not a lot of good answers for any of those folks
I've had a Zappiti Duo for a few years now. The Zappiti player interface is atrocious, the image settings are fanciful and it's impossible to have neutral reference colorimetry... subtitle management is poor (no possibility of adjusting luminance, nor online downloading either). Re-booting is laborious and requires a USB key... horrible remote control to use. Older models are ''incompatible'' with Dolby Vision due to a so-called hardware incompatibility... (They're lying, an update would suffice). Too expensive for what it was.
Running out of people with lots of money is bound to happen to Kaleidescape as well. I still cant believe people even rich people can justify spending $9k for a 6tb NAS and limited use media player.
This is not news, they have been in chapter 11 for like a while so the writing was on the wall. As a full bluray kinda guy, i only use Dune as they have the only stable bluray menu function on the market and Zapitti got too full of themselves with these ridiculous over priced products that were full of bugs, like all the other media streamers.
I have the new Zidoo Z9x pro along with the dune hd real vision 4k plus and I can confidently tell you dune is a top player as well. If you're on the latest beta release they changed their user interface and it looks very nice in my opinion. Playback on it is flawless better than zidoo. I was looking to invest into zappiti at one point but the signs were there glad they sent out an official letter atleast.
@@MrBjorn6 Dune Real Vision 4K & the new 4K Plus are both better than Zidoo Z9X and Pro. Faster performance, Android TV option. The new Z9X Pro is slightly faster than last gen, but still slower than even Dune Real Vision 4K. The Pro also has too many bugs and it has been over 2 months and still no new firmware to fix problems. For example, 3D MVC/ISO playback is just plain broken.
@MrBjorn6 dune comes preload with google playstore and aptoide both are playstores to download compatible apps for your device. You don't have to sideload much because from those two sources they have you covered basically 99%. On top of that their automated framerame switching is superior it does it before playback and your content plays quicker than zidoo. Both are solid but it'll it came down to my picking l would choose dune 100 percent
Other than Kaleidescape, no other movie server is legal. Stop recommending shit that is illegal from companies that will be out of business in no time. People are spending money based on the recommendations you give them. Be honest with your subscribers.
Kaleidescape could just as likely go out of business.......in fact they almost have in the past. Kaleidescape is for people with more dollars than sense. Nothing is safe. Might as well go with the best bang for the buck option available....which is NOT Kaleidescape nor was it Zappiti. I just dont get all the doom and gloom...there are and have been many options besides Zappiti. If worried about legalities....then Itunes and Vudo are there and provide as much "ownership" of media as Kaleidescape for a fraction of the cost.
You sound like a noob. Do you even know what this device does. Clearly you don't. Pay attention to the videos on what these players do and do not do or use Google. And Stop with the uninformed comments you make yourself look ignorant.
This is why open systems are preferable... a pc with makemkv and jellyfin running does the same thing with more functionality for less money, and no single supplier to be stuck with.
Sorry, not everybody wants to tinker with sofware installs and whatnot and certainly not having a pc running all the time to be able to play videos. And I have 3 Zapittis in different rooms, so this would not be a solution for this. And a PC powerfull enough to output 4k Atmos Streams is way more expensive than an standalone player like dune or Zapitti.
There are 3 companies all pushing the same platform. Dune, Zappiti, and Zidoo. If you look close at the players they are all based on the same Chinese platform. Zappiti took the videophile approach with hardware AND software though not any better than the other companies. In fact it was said software was often funneled down from Zidoo. If you try to charge twice the price for the same product it’s only time before the customer discovers the truth.
Unnecessary but cool. I’ve gotten into the Zidoo player over a year ago and a Kaleidescape recently, and there’s some nice convenience with both approaches. If the day comes, hopefully soon, when we can get the higher bitrate downloads or streams then both will be pretty obsolete. In the meantime they’re a nice experience.
Kaliedescape is the best device of its kind. The size doesn’t lie when it comes to data more available than a disk. Yes it’s expensive, but it’s not a product not meant for the average person. Neither is a Ferrari. Their is more to this than just base specs on paper.
@@sgandrewthe thing that bothers me about that argument is that it’s not a Ferrari. It’s a media player and a hard drive. Even the software isn’t really state of the art . It’s only unique bc they are the only ones offering high bit rate downloads. Why that is, I’m not sure. I have some ideas though. If discs became a thing of the past and the only way to get the same quality was Kaleidescape then that would really suck.
Ummm… while this is sad, at least from my end, I forecast this would be soon the case because of what happened with k-scape. they, too, got shut down and had to change their entire business model just to exist. I asked many CZcams presenters how is it possible for US customers to rip their own Blu-ray/4k/dvds and add to NAS when k-scape was sued and lost for just this very process. I never received a reply from any CZcamsr. All good… i know they didn’t have the answer. Anything stored on someone else’s server is a problem for ownership. If you can’t rip your own optical discs or download purchased content to your own in-house server, you risk eventual loss of library. … Sad to say. And now, Best Buy no longer sells blu-rays… not long before other retailers follow. Purchase your favorites while you can, store ‘em. Time will come when you wont own your media… you’ll just have subscription services and quality limited to your internet connection speeds.
Ziddo offers the exact same hardware at half the prices....
IKR??
I recently purchased the Zappiti Nas and have just spent two months ripping just over 1000 Blu-rays and 4K discs.
Really happy with the product and so sad to hear that Zappiti is closing down.
What is not clear though is what support the Nas will have?
They have said that will still be able to rip movies and access our content however the Nas is a closed system...
Will we be able to insert new drives into the empty slots?
And will we be able to replace broken hard drives ourselves?
If there closing down they really should give Nas owners full access to the Windows server Nas operating system, otherwise as soon as one of the hard drives fails the whole unit is a dustbin job.
This is why I have started to move to products that are not dependent on cloud simply because I have been burnt multiple times with hardware that a strong integration with cloud based apps. Companies are disappearing left right and centre or are dropping their cloud apps or solutions within 5 years of launching. Leads to a lot of wasted money.
Wow this sucks.
I could never afford one of these players and was always worried that something like this would happen but definitely sucks for all the people that have bought into the ecosystem.
I got the Zappiti One SE 4K HDR for 350 bucks. With gift card it came to 250 bucks. It was a great machine for the price. Sure the UI was slow and laggy but overall it PLAYED EVERYTHING I THREW AT IT. 16 TB's of movies and shows! No issues! The animations and poster art and media info were all awesome as well. Had this device for over 3 years. Now it's all for naught.
Probably gonna get the Zidoo Z2600 next year or something else that comes out. See how the media player landscape plays out. For now I'm gonna use the Kodi and Nova media player on my Zappiti.
Man this really sucks...after 3 years of use.
This is number 1 reason why I went with zidoo was the speed scrolling through the posterwall and customization, and if you don't like HT 4.0 UI you can use emby, kodi, jellyfin. The way the landscape is changing for media players, the zidoo 5000 is my next updrade.
What do you mean by landscape changing? Death of Zappiti?
I have a Z9X and the support simply is zero, very disapointed.
@@Ruicarricowhat kind of support do you need?
@@jovidec6274 The firmware is flawed, many errors, and no updates at all since 6.4.42
So glad for physical media 💿👌👌
Why?
@paulrevere1479 why?? Because I own it in my hands..and not on a cloud drive.
@@kevinrobertbrown2351 Zappiti and Zidoo are not cloud based. They play content from hard drives
@@kevinrobertbrown2351 The only thing cloud based about media players is when you want to have poster art and title information for your movies and shows. I have a ton of disc but I play my movies on the Zidoo because I don’t have to continuously switch disc each time I want to watch something.
Exactly this is why im so hesitant to buy a Kaleidoscape
I love my Dune HD MAX Vision 4K Player, it is ridiculously fast, plays all ISO’s with HDR DolbyVision etc. it’s literally perfect!
Get the Zidoo UHD5000 Shane. That’s what I did a couple of month ago. It has the latest RTD1619BPD chip and just overall better. I immediately pulled my Zappiti off the rack and never went back after my UHD5000 arrived.
I have a brand new Zappiti Neo which i purchased 6 months ago. I'm devastated to hear these sad news.
Same here. I purchased a Neo 6 months ago as well.
I hope they release an app that I can edit the meta data manually myself.
Everyone that bought a box that is going out of business should get their money back or at least partial that's not right paying over $400 and getting robbed
Having spent $3000 on Zapitti signature, now left clueless 😢
You should try Zidoo Neo Alpha if you’re looking for Zappiti Signature quality.
That’s why I like physical media because you know is yours and heard that same services can retrieve movies from your account even tho you pay for them. So I hope that we still have the physical media for awhile
Jeez. I bought 2 Zappiti UHD3000 players a few months back. Guess they’ll be no more animated menus coming. Still can always install Plex on it. Praying that Apple will release an Apple TV Pro with higher bitrate video and lossless audio.
Wow, I have two Zappiti Players (Neo and Mini). This really sucks. I was two months ago that they were working on something new. Didn’t realize it was this. I now need to really think about what to buy next.
Huge congratulations on hitting *100K subscribers* Shane, well done! 👏🏻
Zidoo UHD3000 and probably 5000 are pretty solid.
Wow. I hadn’t invested but quite a few creators I follow did. Bummer to hear.
Thanks for the update sad to hear I was hoping to purchase a digital movie storage digiital device I guess I have to keep shopping I have over 10,000 physical movies and would love to transfer them a streaming device to make things a little easier, fingers crossed.
I found the Zappiti concert very interesting, as a new manufacturer it is always difficult to establish yourself in the high-end market. Hopefully the beautiful Magnetar 4k Blu Ray players will stay with us longer.
Gasp, I'm so shocked the $10,000 Plex server went bust.
$10k? lol
@thenoble1 you may want to recheck your info, because you could buy the Zappiti for $1000. Now, you may be thinking of the Kaleidescape Terra which can run upwards of $24,000 for the 72TB storage.
I haven't had my Zappiti NAS and Reference player for even a year. Like...wtf! I'm pissed!
i got my NAS 2 months ago!!
@@SarahStaar Zappiti has been extremely supportive with any NAS issues with backing up media. I'm assuming that great support will also change.
There is a market for this product, something with kaleidoscape features but just managing a ripped collection. Sad news.
Glad I decided to go with a high end Panasonic 4k player and stick with Physical media
This is why it’s always best to go the diy route.
Zappiti is based on Dune hardware and software. Strange this is not mentioned in the video. On most player models Dune and Zappiti share the power supply and video board. 100% the same. Even the internal fan is the same. The in/output board is different. Low level SW is also shared. Zappiti has build on top of that there own application with cloud access. Dune don’t do this. Who knows, some clever guy can port the Dune SW into the Zappiti and make it a Dune.
Their customer service was terrible and they were incredibly rude. A dreadful company and I switched to Plex and I have never looked back. I am actually glad they closed down due to their terrible customer service and truly unpleasant staff.
If copy right was the reason maybe the other platforms may follow
Dune has actually been in the game far longer than Zappiti or Zidoo, and are still developing. If I am not mistaken, much of the hardware for the former were actually ‘legal clones’ of Dune, with Zappiti software on top. So now the choice is indeed down to Dune and Zidoo, with v similar hardware, the differentiating factor being the software.
I love my Dune HD MAX Vision 4K Player, it is ridiculously fast, plays all ISO’s with HDR DolbyVision etc. it’s literally perfect!
There’s always the oppo clones! The M9201 works extremely well with BDMV / ISO playback and fully supports Dolby Vision FEL.
Tbh once/if Apple introduces lossless streaming for video and audio on Apple TV, it'll put all these companies out of business for sure. I'm patiently waiting for that day to come because it'll be such a game changer
Largely true, but this day may never come. Also, it needs DV support for remuxes
@@stepalex I mean Apple Music has Lossless audio up to Hi-Res lossless (not to mention Dolby Atmos itself!) and no one expected that to be widespread across devices. So I still have hope for it to be a thing for their own streaming service.
Apple will sadly never allow this
Shows you have to rely on yourself and not a third party… build your own NAS.
I think you should review the Dune HD Real Vision 4K Plus or any of their devices with the Realtek RTD1619DR media processor. I just got hold of one and am stunned how good this is for the money. I've been looking for a device that can stream 4K Dolby Vision M2TS files and was going to pull the trigger on a Magnetar as it's the only bluray player with gigabit ethernet but thought I'd give this a go. Glad I did. I think the picture quality is superb and the interface/overall performance is stunning considering it's sub £300 in the UK and it's a tiny box, no fans or mechanisms. I would be very interested to see how the picture stacks up against a Magnetar, sound quality through my Arcam processor is decent as well.
So if you have a Zapitti is there anything that you can salvage?, What i mean is can you wipe the zapitti software off it and install Plex or something similar?
Zidoo is in a different price level, yet you mentioned it, so why not using Nvidia Shield with PLEX or Kodi ? both option will have to use a storage system that needs to be created ( you can use Qnap or Synology entry level storage ) But it is definitely much cheaper compared to the Zappiti storage device
Yeah I second this solution! If NAS is serving and Nvidia Shield works as your client it's powerful with pixel upscaling and Atmos/DTSX.
I'm having a really hard time finding the benefit of Zidoo over the Nvidia Shield.
1. The Android TV UI experience is so much better then what the Zidoo offers.
2. No google play store so you will need to locate the apk's , sideload them to and hope they will work..
3. No support for Plex or Kodi so eventually you may find yourself in the exact same situation as Zappiti users dependent on the device media server software solution@@Gshiznit74
Thanks Shane!!
Physical of course
Thanks Shane - not exactly surprised on the news but less choice is never good. I’ve been watching the new zidoo pro units and the biggest question on those units is support. Particularly what’s being worked on and when. From the forums it seems zidoo doesn’t actively participate with user feedback which is also a bit concerning. Going to sit on the sidelines with my shield for a bit longer and see what happens.
It hurt my heart... ill still use it in explorer mode to play my movies that i already own, but all new stuff will go through kscape.
Kcape don't do 3d😢
Zidoo 2000 Pro is awesome I think it’s better the Nvidia Shield Pro
It cost a lot more also 🤔
@@MrBjorn6 I agree it’s worth. I also own a Nvidia Shield Pro. Both are great media players however with the Zidoo 2000 Pro you can store a 16TD drive without the ads that comes the Nvidia Shield Pro
Yup i still have my Zidoo pro player! Just get more hard drives that's all with pre loaded movies!!! No problem!
@@ccnp2009i believe for Zidoo Z2000 pro is up to 17.4 T ?
@@howardmenkis5252 Howard why don’t you build a NAS with TrueNas. That your Zidoo to the next level
Yup Zidoo pro player,, still around, just get more hardrives!
Doesn't this brand also own Reavon? If so, does that mean their players are done too?
This is unreal!!! I am sooo Pissed!
Kaleidoscape is next
I mentioned this on the Zappiti FB group around March/ April that I was worried that Zappiti would be shutting down, I was told by the group members too stop spreading rumours. I bought a Dune Pro Vision 4K Solo April this year.
How do you like the Dune Pro Vision? I went the Zidoo route.
I am self hosting my media files and data on an Unraid Server hosting Jellyfin.
@@ccnp2009 I like the Dune Pro Vision, unlike the Zappiti, he Dune & Zidoo don't have to link up to the cloud to scrape the films for meta data.
@@sheldonpetrie3706 how’s unraid I’m using TrueNas Core. I had issues with TrueNas scale where smb traffic was not being seen on my Zidoo. I’m definitely going to purchase a license for unraid
I love my Dune HD MAX Vision 4K Player, it is ridiculously fast, plays all ISO’s with HDR DolbyVision etc. it’s literally perfect!
Not news I was looking to here.🙁 I purchased my Zappiti Neo back in 2021 and it has some issues and was replaced for free last year. It has been working flawlessly. I was just thinking about the Zidoo products after just purchasing a Eversolo DMP-A6 to use as my main music streamer. I've had it about a month and love it as it replaced my BS Node 2i because the SQ is much better. I even connected my old ext usb blue ray optical drive to the usb port and was able to rip music CD directly to the internal SSD drive where all my music files are stored. It was pretty fast and rips to flac and wav files as well. I was also able to sideload Pandora app on it. I did not think I would find anything that sounded better than my BS Node 2i and can use for most if not all my music playback. If Zappiti is no more I was looking at the Zidoo z2600 which looks like a direct replacement for the Zappiti Neo because it has the same output connection out back. Your Thoughts?
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I’ve always just used my Nvidia Shield, USB HD and Plex which has worked great.
I use the same but instead of a USB HD I have a HTPC/Media server along with Plex
Shield uses hdmi2.0b No eARC, No VRR, No QFT, No 4:4:4 RGB, Nothing higher than 60hz Refresh. No 8K...4 year old tech. Pffft.
Zappiti was always kind of silly. It made more sense to use a NAS to stream to a Shield Pro. Much more control and nothing proprietary.
Shane, they are all basically the same players. With good software they should all be capable of performing at the same level.
That’s a terrible news dear Shane; personally i got the audiocom and the signature. The good news is zidddo just come out with the latest collection and i believe is even better than the the Zappiti!!!
The Ziddo UHD5000 it’s a Zappiti killer and i just got it for 985 $us!!! Just waiting to get it and compared both products!!
Another expensive but awesome option is the modulus m2; it is just out of this world
I got Zidoo Z2000 pro. Waiting to format my sata drive in NTFS. Have a hard drive with ubs 2.0 with 150 UHD ripped movies and 300 Bluerays and 150 Blueray 3d.
Z2000 is sweet
Does it have a true NATIVE 21:9 videowall? So not stretched or something.
man am I glad I went with the Zidoo ...
me2 :)
Who wouldve thought people couldn't afford it...?
Price wasn't the issue.
My zidoo z9x pro just arrived, and the user experience is great, I am impressed with the play back as well. Watched Dunkirk, it looked great on the oled. It is Faster than my Zappiti for sure. Anyone experience improvements with the Zidoo 2000 or other options with the larger power supply?
Hi Shane, Can you please check with them what will happen to Control 4 integration if Video is not there Regards...Srini
Almost bought the NAS with thier reference player just because Kaleidescape is so d_m expensive and Synology requires so much hands on updating. Geez! 😢
I wonder, since it's a French based company does anybody know if they got bullied out of the Home Cinema 🎥 market?
We just finished putting the final touch on a dedicated home theater and had Magnolia come over and set up the Savant controller. It is something I feel a lot of people should experience. I was going to invite Youth man (Michael) over to see it. Maybe you should come Shane. We are in Pasadena California
Thanks Shane
What about Fusion Media? Are they a good alternative or are they any good at all
Shane, thank you
Hey dude , Shane this is a sad day for some home theater buffs. Don’t have one yet, was thinking about getting one in a year,but now I don’t know.
Glad i didn't invest in one. What a drag
Typical.... I just bought the nas and a couple of players... From a business standpoint they should have charge a monthly fee this would give them a decent cash flow and enable continuous software development.
Nvidia Shield and Plex NAS is the only solution.
Is Zappiti is out business or their service no longer offered?
I wonder if there is a market for a company shipping a HTPC because that is what this was. More HTPC than media platform. Companies used to do it when WMC was still shipped software.
Man I miss windows media center.
Best of luck to the company's founders and those employees now looking for work.
Plex still rules ;)
Can anyone tell me if Zidoo Z1000 Pro has a Good Offline Mode ? Does it store all its Medidata on system rather than in a cloud ? Important for people with poor or limited internet siqnal. Any help would be most appreciated, cheers 🍻
Zappiti is the only one that uses the cloud which was a bad choice.
@@therealshanelee Thankyou, ofcourse it's the only one that uses a cloud based setup ! 🤣
It just happens to be the one I decided to purchase...Lol, Anyway might be time to save up for a Zidoo Z1000 Pro. Thanks for the quick response. 👌
Damn , sad news indeed😢
Could it be possible for them to implement the software from Dune or Zidoo?
I love my Dune HD MAX Vision 4K Player, it is ridiculously fast, plays all ISO’s with HDR DolbyVision etc. it’s literally perfect!
@@robdevine69 Sounds great. I looked at all 3, chose Zappitti, but after a stocking issue delayed my order I went with Zidoo. Thank you stocking issue!
Zappiti is build on Dune HW and (the lower level) SW.
@@hopje01 So, then theoretically it should be possible to for Dune to allow their software to run on the Zappiti units?
Hooray when do I get to buy the most prolific home theater creator entertainer in 4k trinov michi monster of rock and congratulate on the subs.
I know you do a fantastic production for content creators too.
I was so close to buying the NAS earlier this year but was concerned (thank goodness) by the closed system where you are dependent on Zappitti. Hearing the rumours about their insolvency was the clencher for me not to buy. Whew, could have been an expensive mistake. I really feel for people who invested a lot of $$$ into the NAS and players.
This is this is really sad but anybody who was paying attention shouldn't be surprised. DVD ripping has been sketchy for decades. Knowing the zappiti was breaking the DRM I figured they might eventually be a target for the US regulators and/or movie labels.
So, enthusiasts should have seen thos coming, but i feel bad for the non enthusiast customers who bought these, and the installers who support them. Not a lot of good answers for any of those folks
What about Trinov? Did they not buy Zappiti?
Shane, can you take the hard drives that were in our Zappiti, plug them into the Ziddo and will that play movies and show artwork?
Yep
Shane what model Ziddo do you suggest. I have a Zappiti Reference and Neo. Also where can you buy these players other than eBay?
@@darthsimon4393Amazon has them as well as Ziddo’s website.
I've had a Zappiti Duo for a few years now. The Zappiti player interface is atrocious, the image settings are fanciful and it's impossible to have neutral reference colorimetry... subtitle management is poor (no possibility of adjusting luminance, nor online downloading either). Re-booting is laborious and requires a USB key... horrible remote control to use.
Older models are ''incompatible'' with Dolby Vision due to a so-called hardware incompatibility... (They're lying, an update would suffice).
Too expensive for what it was.
They ran out of high end clients. Not everyone can fork out that amount of money for entertainment
Running out of people with lots of money is bound to happen to Kaleidescape as well. I still cant believe people even rich people can justify spending $9k for a 6tb NAS and limited use media player.
This is not news, they have been in chapter 11 for like a while so the writing was on the wall. As a full bluray kinda guy, i only use Dune as they have the only stable bluray menu function on the market and Zapitti got too full of themselves with these ridiculous over priced products that were full of bugs, like all the other media streamers.
I am using z1000 pro it is excellent
I have the new Zidoo Z9x pro along with the dune hd real vision 4k plus and I can confidently tell you dune is a top player as well. If you're on the latest beta release they changed their user interface and it looks very nice in my opinion. Playback on it is flawless better than zidoo. I was looking to invest into zappiti at one point but the signs were there glad they sent out an official letter atleast.
How is dune better than Zidoo? In what way?
I hear the new Zidoo (june 2023) are better than Dune
@@MrBjorn6 Dune Real Vision 4K & the new 4K Plus are both better than Zidoo Z9X and Pro. Faster performance, Android TV option. The new Z9X Pro is slightly faster than last gen, but still slower than even Dune Real Vision 4K. The Pro also has too many bugs and it has been over 2 months and still no new firmware to fix problems. For example, 3D MVC/ISO playback is just plain broken.
@MrBjorn6 dune comes preload with google playstore and aptoide both are playstores to download compatible apps for your device. You don't have to sideload much because from those two sources they have you covered basically 99%. On top of that their automated framerame switching is superior it does it before playback and your content plays quicker than zidoo. Both are solid but it'll it came down to my picking l would choose dune 100 percent
I love my Dune HD MAX Vision 4K Player, it is ridiculously fast, plays all ISO’s with HDR DolbyVision etc. it’s literally perfect!
Zidoo will be next, there’s no free lunch.
It was only a matter of time 😮
This type are systems becoming outdated for the price. You can just run a server through your own PC and run Plex/Jelllyfin/Kodi and you're set.
Other than Kaleidescape, no other movie server is legal. Stop recommending shit that is illegal from companies that will be out of business in no time. People are spending money based on the recommendations you give them. Be honest with your subscribers.
Kaleidescape could just as likely go out of business.......in fact they almost have in the past. Kaleidescape is for people with more dollars than sense. Nothing is safe. Might as well go with the best bang for the buck option available....which is NOT Kaleidescape nor was it Zappiti. I just dont get all the doom and gloom...there are and have been many options besides Zappiti. If worried about legalities....then Itunes and Vudo are there and provide as much "ownership" of media as Kaleidescape for a fraction of the cost.
You sound like a noob. Do you even know what this device does. Clearly you don't. Pay attention to the videos on what these players do and do not do or use Google. And Stop with the uninformed comments you make yourself look ignorant.
@@therealshaneleeI couldn’t agree with you more Shane!!!
This is why open systems are preferable... a pc with makemkv and jellyfin running does the same thing with more functionality for less money, and no single supplier to be stuck with.
Sorry, not everybody wants to tinker with sofware installs and whatnot and certainly not having a pc running all the time to be able to play videos. And I have 3 Zapittis in different rooms, so this would not be a solution for this. And a PC powerfull enough to output 4k Atmos Streams is way more expensive than an standalone player like dune or Zapitti.
Bout damn Time
Zidoo has been better than Zappiti the last couple of years
Lol it was one of the dumbest names for for a piece of equipment yet
Try DUNE
I love my Dune HD MAX Vision 4K Player, it is ridiculously fast, plays all ISO’s with HDR DolbyVision etc. it’s literally perfect!
There are 3 companies all pushing the same platform. Dune, Zappiti, and Zidoo. If you look close at the players they are all based on the same Chinese platform. Zappiti took the videophile approach with hardware AND software though not any better than the other companies. In fact it was said software was often funneled down from Zidoo. If you try to charge twice the price for the same product it’s only time before the customer discovers the truth.
New app that you pay for Monthly. Horse sh..t
Zidoo FTW.
Please EQ your mic. Too much bass
There's a low cut filter applied. You should calibrate your system.
Influencers lol 🤣
Join the gang I have an Oppo 205
Surprise surprise. A unnecessary device. That kaliedescape garbage will be next.
Unnecessary but cool. I’ve gotten into the Zidoo player over a year ago and a Kaleidescape recently, and there’s some nice convenience with both approaches. If the day comes, hopefully soon, when we can get the higher bitrate downloads or streams then both will be pretty obsolete. In the meantime they’re a nice experience.
Kaliedescape is the best device of its kind. The size doesn’t lie when it comes to data more available than a disk. Yes it’s expensive, but it’s not a product not meant for the average person. Neither is a Ferrari. Their is more to this than just base specs on paper.
@@sgandrewthe thing that bothers me about that argument is that it’s not a Ferrari. It’s a media player and a hard drive. Even the software isn’t really state of the art . It’s only unique bc they are the only ones offering high bit rate downloads. Why that is, I’m not sure. I have some ideas though. If discs became a thing of the past and the only way to get the same quality was Kaleidescape then that would really suck.
@@sgandrew you better have a Ferrari if you have that thing lol
@@danielwander605 it’s like that because it’s a device that is unnecessary to many homes. An Apple TV or firestick is more than enough.
This isn’t good
Zidoo is total garbage. The shield pro is way better
Nah you just didn’t know how to set it up lol
Fingers crossed I love my zappiti neo player
Ummm… while this is sad, at least from my end, I forecast this would be soon the case because of what happened with k-scape. they, too, got shut down and had to change their entire business model just to exist.
I asked many CZcams presenters how is it possible for US customers to rip their own Blu-ray/4k/dvds and add to NAS when k-scape was sued and lost for just this very process.
I never received a reply from any CZcamsr. All good… i know they didn’t have the answer.
Anything stored on someone else’s server is a problem for ownership.
If you can’t rip your own optical discs or download purchased content to your own in-house server, you risk eventual loss of library. …
Sad to say.
And now, Best Buy no longer sells blu-rays… not long before other retailers follow.
Purchase your favorites while you can, store ‘em. Time will come when you wont own your media… you’ll just have subscription services and quality limited to your internet connection speeds.