Volvo Trucks - FH16 750 vs. F16 470 - Brian's Truck Report (E02)
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- čas přidán 18. 12. 2011
- Renowned truck journalist Brian Weatherley puts a Volvo F16 470 from 1987 head-to-head with the new Volvo FH16 750, in a haulage challenge up one of Sweden's toughest ascents - the so called Gothenburg hill located just outside Jönköping, Sweden - just to find out what has really changed in 25 years.
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I recently got to drive that hill, with a 660 FH16, loaded 65 tonnes, and i have to admit (Being a Scania-fan) it's and incredible engine, you have done a very good job Volvo!
I had the 1989 verison of the F16, great times.
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when you are just a 21 year old, and feel so amazed that you want to try a FH16 once for yourself, eventhough you never driven a truck before.
Does Euro Truck Simulator 2 count?
I'm 18 and I'm already a truck driver. First truck I ever drove was a Volvo FM 380 from 1994. Next was a Volvo FH 440 from 2008. Next was a Scania R500 V8 from 2009. Next was a Scania R730 V8 from 2012. Now I'm driving a Scania R420 from 2009.
its better to have someting beside your educational certificates just in case things dont go normal
@@tntfreddan3138 i am 25 years old and im driving a r480 from 2007 for six years now. good truck but my brand new FH16 is at the bodybuilder right now and i am fucking excited!!!
@@GumpPower I started working at a different company a month and a half ago so I'm currently driving a S520 6x2 semi truck. Not a regular semi truck, though, cuz the wheelbase is slightly longer so the max gross weight is 50 tons.
Cool video
And that F16 still looks brilliant nowadays, I just love it!
Qué maravilla de dos camiones, impresionantes los dos, de los mejores del mundo cuando aparecieron. Fantásticos VOLVOS.-
The FH16 750 just over a minute quicker than the F16 470 Intercooler..... amazing!
I live in Jönköping! :D i've been in that hill many times
Wow... "Charles Francis Xavier" works for Volvo.... Awesome!!!
Cool video! I didn't know that the Captain of the Starship Enterprise works at Volvo Trucks in his spare time though... ;-)
F16 470 is a beauty.
Top gear for trucks. amazing, more please.
WOW some power in that FH16 750 .
5:42 Yep sir, about 51% more power than the F16 470!
Well thanks anyway, the music is awesome and the truck even more awesome =)
Love the FH16 750,its the most powerful truck.
Hopefully waiting for something to thrash that S770 to come soon.
I totally agree to you friend!
I love straight euro trucks ( scanias , actros) as well as the bonneted peterbilts, kenworths!
Impressive Power in that Volvo FH16 750 ... Remember that hill , But last trip took me down the hill ;) And btw : Göteborg is great city 2 visit ...
The I-Shift is fantastic in the woods, i'm driving timbertruck and have done so since i graduated.. starting -07 whit a 520 FH12 manual gearbox, and when I-shift came around i wasn't sure about it in snow-and-mud conditions, i was taken whit a blast! it's so great and gears fast and was nothing of what i tought it to be.. but the shift-buttom should be more sensitive! in some case i've got stuck in hills in winter just because it dosn't gear down 3 steps and just take two even if i push it 3 :)
I wish we had these volvos in the states. No one makes a good cabover here anymore.
they are also around 1,5 mill kr in norway, but it depends if you want it in topline or highline version
My father is lorry driver, and he always says: -Volvo is the best and most quality, safety truck in the world. We will buy a new Volvo FH series and we will work together. It's the best investment for future. Thank you Volvo.
....But the first who offered a big distance cab was DAF with their Space Cab .A little later Volvo came with the Globetrotter.Not to mention Bussing AG back in the early 70s-late 60s.But you always did great trucks...
Best looking trucks out there
Here in USA only sells the Volvo 780 which is the best in the USA
Amazing I do love Volvo FH 16 750 and Scania R730
I would have loved if Volvo would have keeped the old design. Its so pretty..... It's the best design ever that Volvo have maded.
@VolvoTrucks thanks for the info! btw i love volvo buses (more than trucks)
I think you can not compare 30 years old truck with 400hp with new modern version with 750hp. But it is too beautiful to see sweden classics.
1:22 what is the song there in the background?
Haha this guy looks like Patrick Stewart, and in a way his voice and accent are kind of similar too :P
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i can check. what currency/valuta do want the price in?
I’m pretty sure that not every modern 470hp nowadays can keep up with these F16…or 143 470, despite of having “only” 2000Nm…
Any information about fuel consumption? Of course, it is great to have 750hp and all this torque, but would it worth the money nowadays that diesel price is rising more and more?
whats the mpg please ?
:') Bravo!!!
OMG NEDERLAND! THE BEST!!
Price?
Hi, do you also know how much a scania r730 is? I ask for a better point of comparison. I don't have any feel or information which of those brilliant trucks cost more. You can just type the same currency as above ->I'm sure google will help to convert ;)
The best !
Muy bonito,pero si fuera en español estaría mucho mejor. En q página los puedo ver en español. Gracias
Top show
Thanks for the support
That hill is good enough for a test like that. And it's a high traffic piece of road which means that if you have enough power to keep up the pace when going up you will not disturb the flow too bad. On a narrow winding road you won't benefit from power in the same way.
7% incline?!?!? Is that allot in Sweden? That's just a light crest here in Norway.
I wish they have mentioned average MPG they got up that hill :-)
Maybe under 5 MPG(US) because of the uphill climb.
@@wws2020 I know my Scania R420 has an average fuel consumption of about 90L/100km. I've never been fully loaded with 40 tons up that hill, besides when I was an apprentice and went up that hill with 440hp and 58 tons. Think I did roughly 25km/h on the top of the hill.
i attacked that hill as guest of Volvo in a 660 at sixty tonne computer said 4mpg it kept pulling and pulling but my F16 opened up propa power my F340 PLM is still around if i ever get the money ill buy it, 18 years i was the pilot i parked her up and still had the plastic on the roof lining FH16 no chance, F16 real power
I live in Jönköping, that hill is realy hard to drive. You have to have diffrent gear all the time :P
the average European trucks are actually heavier than the average US ones, they run at 40 metric tons or about 88,000 lbs, while the average US truck runs at 80.000 pounds
The best there is !!!
I was privileged to work for a company called L&B Haulage from Wembley i started there in 1985 with F12 6x4 110 tonner Then 1989 my Boss got me F16 465 F340 PLM lots of engine trouble new engine 485 what an animal i had that truck for 18 years Then i got FH16 610 no comparison, The F16 is still about an everyone calls it Jimbos LORRY
In sweden we also got a total weight of 60 tons.
Amazing volvo trucks i hrew up in f12 1986and drove it fot five years worked and made money thousands dollars in iran iraq and afghanistan just i can say exquisite
Damn Jevgeni Prigozhin driving?
💝F16
i agree with this but still this is childs play comparing to some roads we got here 10% 9km 9%10 km 10% 10km and similar
on this case with only 2km vehicle inertion climb you to half of hill
@scania98989 With the winter conditions we have in Sweden so yes, it's tough.
cute but why don't they use them as road trains in australia ?
That damm f16 is even faster that some of the truck in my country
In ETS 2 With that Volvo I couldn't climb a hill like that with 20tonnes (FH16 750) :D
who's polish?
Serbian you dumbass :D and i know how to drive
You suck!i'm 15 Years old and I don't have a license,so what's wrong wth you?
***** Sad little kid? I think you are..
***** Me? I aint from poland unlike you kid. Hahaha
@Krille3
i call tough 8% 10km on narrow winding road with lot of serpentines, i call tough hill 9% 10km same conditions like this before , where there is ice almost all year on top of hill
i call tough 11% 7km .....
I think the 750 should have used another trailer, a 20 foot center axle trailer behind the 40", rules have changed since 1987, the 750 is meant to do more..
You should arm an F1 team and put all this tech in it!
it's though i always go down a full range in that hill. Even i drive Scanni R500 V8. i have driven volvo to i like the I shift and opticruse
There is a hill that all truckers must fear, and that is the one located in Skule, every single winter at least one truck gets stuck a week, especially foreign truckers.
performance summary:
7% grade performance at 40 metric tons GVW
45km/h vs 68 km/h
28 mph vs 42.25 mph
Jeff looks like the bloke from Star Trek.
Driving a Scania R500 uphill loaded to 49 tonnes and seeing a Volvo 480 also loaded to 49 tonnes overtake me and pulling away kind of puts me off this assumption you have made here. Even a 500 hp MB Actros pulls away from the 500 hp Scania, a bit slower than the Volvo but still pulls away.
It depends on the driver. If u can floor it all the time the scania will pull away. The new gen scania's are even faster. Never seen a mercedes pull faster than scania eventheir latest ones struggle a bit.
Because it does not sell the volvo fh16 in USA
Is for the steering angle, the roads are not as wide, and are not so heavy as the American trucks.
what is globetrotter??
i have been many times on that road and has funny it is with a volvo car :D
I just wish they would allow the sale of the Volvo FH-16/750 in the United States. They sell all the conventional Volvo's but no cabovers. The U.S. still makes cabovers from companies like International, Kenworth and Peterbilt but only for export markets only. There are no new cabovers sold in the U.S. and haven't been since International quit selling them here back in the 1990's.
You can't call this challenge, the older one has made too much km... Make another challenge to see the difference between 2 new- 440 vs 750. Should be better! :)
Too much km? This TD162 engine it's just about run in
i-Shift gearbox are very intelligence than any other gearbox.
in norway, they cost around 1,5 mill kr
An oldie from the Netherlands...not from Sweden, strange! Not expected...
volvo is a hell of a truck
The test is ok, I guess. Definitively shows the progress during the years. But they should have crossed the border into Norway, for some proper hills. :)
Man can build world's strongest ever truck, but big question mark is can he build also truck with better fuel economy?
This is true ; )
The only problem is the crappy lights!
quite impressive. but why do most european trucks have only a single axle while american trucks are usually tandum axle?
thanx
steve
Meanwhile in some part of the world people still buy new truck with 30yo technologies because of its simplicity
I drive a Volvo fm12 Artic on tipper work on Average we go though wheel washers 15 times a day and Believe me there never out of Volvo with Electrical trouble
Volvo remains the best truck in the world. I like the classic F16, but FH16 it's something newer which save fuel, save time in transports, quickly delivery and faster! Congratulation Volvo!!!!!!!!!
Now let's put 100 tons like over here in Brasil to see how it's peform.
....Volvo....THE REAL KING....
I meant I could convert ;) Euros would be nice, thanks
That Volvo F16 from 1987 look like new, i like old cars.
amazing truck, looks good and has enormous amount of power as well, but in my opinion scania is still a better truck even if it has less power, of course thats just my opinion by i can honestly say that would be more that happy to drive this fh16
The one and only right choice, is every time the F16. Not the Fh ... yeah ...
Impressionnant trop ce f16 moi meme roulant en volvo mais en fh4 540 deja sa tire alor ce 750 j'imagine pa
FH16 750 in North America. that would be a bonanza for volvo. the ideal of the truck
No doubt about that.
Alle wuerden die kaufen. Hier gibt es immer noch die technik von vor 30 Jahren.
H2k looks like you dont live in us? never been to new york city Brooklyn or stanten island? or better yet Philadelphia downtown? id love to see how far youd make it in a vnl780.. new york country part has a couple 9% grades so does pennsylvania dont forget i78 in west Virginia or i80 in Pennsylvania and i usually stay in the east and south coast i have not gone west yet but theres always a first have a great day
Because it does not sell the volvo fh16 in USA
Hoffi the have the VNL in America with cummins engines and cats i think
That wasn't the biggest hill ;p They should drive E6 to Angelholm
I was thinking that too, isn't hallansåsen steeper?
Only the v8's mate... a 6 cylinder scania would probebly stall at the foot of the hill. :p
Je tiens à remercier le groupe Ab Volvo d'avoir sauvé Renault Trucks THANKS! SWEDEN POWER !!!!!
I would still take the old F16 over the fh. You feel like your doing the driving in the old unit with a manual 12 speed box.
just hurry up and get the 750 to Australia, i'm looking for a new truck
i used to drive a f16 470 globetrotter was a great truck now drive a fh13 480 much less space and just dosent pull like those older models
I wouldn't say no to one. Perhaps I should become an owner driver and treat myself.
D16 Volvo was total disaster on the US market for Volvo , though when it ran correctly (rare) it could blow the doors of any Hoods with the Kitty Cats
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I don't see what's so tough about Jönköpingsbacken (Jönköping hill). I'm 18 years old and I've been driving there daily for 2 and a half month now. First time I went down that hill, I was 17 years old and weighed 25 tons. The time after that I was 18 and 2 months old and weighed 58 tons in a Volvo FH440. No problem in early February because the right lane is heated to prevent ice from forming. Just today I went both down and up that hill. Down I weighed 37 tons and up I weighed 22 tons. I've only lost traction there ones but that was when I was driving 25.25 meter. Fully loaded, 5 axle trailer, and almost empty truck so about 50 tons in total and only 5.5 of those on the drive axle. Was driving a MAN TGX 26 440.