Why are People Buying This $300 Gaming Laptop
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Here's yet another "Gaming Laptop" on eBay that screams "I'm not meant for gaming"... Or so we think. We are going to deep dive into this laptop to find out if we are missing something or if these sellers are truly selling old office laptops that have no intentions of ever gaming.
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That "skin" is something shady sellers put on the back to conceal scratches, tiny dings, sticker residue, anything they don't want showing up when it arrives at your home. It's basically a dbrand-ish sticker that just goes right over the top.
Not exactly my intention when I sold one of my items online. You gotta also think about the fact that some people actually owned their device and actually chose to put a skin on it
Hey, Toasty Bros. I got this laptop off of amazon for $300 flat for my birthday a week ago. I play games like fortnite, rocket league, call of duty 2019 and 2020, hot wheels unleashed, and forza. The problems you guys were having did not happen on my end, my model is flawless. Only problem I had was the cpu was going up and down in GHZ so I made a power plan and downloaded park control and it seemed to fix it. The 60FPS thing is fixable if you update to the latest drivers or play windowed fullscreen on your games. For me I been using this since I got it and I haven't used my main pc. I can make a video if you want to see how it should work. Only reason I got it because of your video so thank you.
Thank you for this bro, I just got mine too and this comment really helped
I read all of that
I would have liked to see you guys pop the shell open, take a peek underneath, and see if it needed some cleaning or a component was loose-could have fixed that weird crash issue. Maybe re-installing Windows as well? And there might have also been issues with the power brick. Who knows. Would really have liked to see that laptop show out as a great budget used option
Undervolting could also help it from crashing, it may be trying to draw more power than psu can provide with everything else it needs to power.
Bruh no,look at the temp,cpu is only 77°c ,must be sth sussy with the motherboard
@@pham3383 77 degree Celsius is not too bad for a laptop, And it is the case related to the psu not being able to provide sufficient power, because if their was something wrong with athemotherboard the computer would have instantly crashed.
I've had this exact same laptop for work but it came with 16gb RAM. It was a model they gave people who were going to be running beefy productivity apps (think like having 30 Excel workbooks open, with Outlook on the side, 20 Chrome tabs, and like five or six Tableau workbooks without any lag at all). Honestly, I'd be like 99% sure this was overstock from a company that contracts out pc refresh services to larger corporations that someone either walked out the door with or bought on the cheap when the client moved on to newer Dell models. It was always a solid computer for me work-wise -- never tried gaming on it, but not surprised if it could run some stuff.
You probably could clean it up, reapply termal paste and reseat the SSD because it gets bumped during shipping and causes errors in windows. Also these business laptops dont have a MUX switch and all the display output goes through intel iGPU which is limited to 60FPS if the screen is 60Hz. I have the same thing on an HP elitebook it has an AMD GPU but its still hard locked to 60FPS in games because display signal is sent through iGPU. If i unlock the FPS it gets horrible screen tearing
I feel like it needs a new battery. The cmos did get reset and on modern laptops, when you remove the internal battery, the cmos can reset. I’ve also seen where laptops shut down while gaming if it’s only relying power from the charger. So a battery replacement probably could’ve fixed it from shutting off
I'd 100% try undervolting, it would lower the temps along with the power draw making the overall system much more stable if the problem was resulting from either of those 2 metrics (more likely power draw than temps though if I had to guess).
I concur.
Bruh,idk why that laptop auto shutdown at 78°c
Mine old allienware run normally at 95°c ,same cpu,only gtx1060
Sth sussy happened to the mobo,for sure
The Dell BIOS probably wouldn't let you do that, but people have done custom BIOSes for these things that might support undervolting.
@@pham3383 at least your runs
@@Ultimatebubs No custom BIOS for those old laptops. Gotta use ThrottleStop to undervolt
I used to have the same Dell Precision model, but it has an I7 7700H and a 2gb VRAM Radeon Wx card and 17-inch screen. Used it for school until I built my first PC.
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,wouldnt hurt to check your windows event logs either. could also be your RAM, could be old drivers, (paticularly chipset) theres a plethora of things that could cause that. Im thinking something GPU related though. Also, with the Quadro, I recommend you get the Studio drivers, not the game ready ones. its possible that its boosting beyond what is can handle.
Probably the problem of the laptop is the internal battery, not the cmos battery but the main power battery. I had some problems in the past with other laptops that when the battery almost have died or ended up his life cycle this things use to happen, disconnecting the battery or replacing it should fix that.
I bought this a year ago for like $200 from dell refurb.
I 100% recommend first getting all of the windows 10 updates and then clean installing drivers, then doing cleanups with device-cleanup and RAPR.
That will help you avoid the potential of driver related blue screens.
do you still have the laptop? how is it holding up? im planning to buy a used 7530 with a p3200
is there any particular issues you had with yours?
@@Kou-ml8js its a pretty nice laptop. the only problem is heating. in this video, its actually shutting down due to heating. the solution to this is using a cool pad
I have a Dell E5570 with an I7-6820HQ and AMD R7 M370. The thing is, when it overheats, it will shutdown suddenly (ofc). Try checking event viewer, if there's a CPU clock limiting event, it usually means it overheats or old CPU driver. Why old CPU driver? Well, I played Valorant and it will freeze suddenly. I updated the CPU drivers and boom, no issue so far, though I don't play Valorant that often anymore. When getting a old Dell laptop especially these gray business models, change the thermal paste. It might be hard, but it will be worth it, I hope.
I own the Precision 7710, which is a generation before this. (Tho mine is the bigger 17 inch brother) Its got an i7-6920hq, 32gb ram and quadro M5000M. I got it for 300 dollars just as a short term replacement for my Acer Predator Triton 500 when I cracked the motherboard of it. It has only been 100% stable, reliable and even though i was intending to keep mine until i order a new one, its been over a year and i dont think i will need a new one any time soon. Ive used it numerous times profesionally during live events for lighting and video production, and its never let me down. Would buy again - 11/10.
for me definitely seems that temperature and power draw is a problem try undervolting the quadro card
I have a slightly older Dell Latitude E6540 upgraded it to 16GB, i7 4810MQ, wifi 6 card, and even an msata SSD with available mpci slots. It has a dedicated 2GB Radeon HD 8790M. I've also rigged up my Titan Black on the beast external gpu dock to another available mpci slot. CyberPunk went from absolutely unplayable lowest resolution to kind of playable 720res😆
6:33 I've had that happen on mine. You MUST use a laptop cooler, or at least put some bottle caps under it to prop it up.
I noticed something weird with mine. My CPU would run full power, turbo when it needed to in day to day tasks and Unigine Superposition all day at 80c, but anytime I would start a game the CPU would LOCK at like 1.8Ghz. it wasn't a heat issue, as soon as the game loads it wouldn't go higher than 1.8Ghz.
I had to get Throttle Stop to unlock the cap and it plays fine now👍
I had this exact problem with my Dell latitude bro, take the battery out (it’s wouldn’t charge on mine no matter what) and turn off cstates and Intel speed step in the bios and then it doesn’t cut off on you anymore like that but I could see in the video the light to charge the battery wasn’t on just like on mine and when it goes fully off on its own it acts like it’s going to charge the battery for a sec then the light turns off again
Could be they haven't cleaned it and change the thermal paste and it's automatically shutting down due to temps
80 celsius isn't overheating
@@MatiX415most likely bad battery
i own this laptop. the problem is 100% heating
Pretty sure you are supposed to throw the healing orb and follow it in the Moira 1 v 1, since it heals for more than the damage the other Moira can output.
As we can see it crashes, when CPU temp was higher than 80 degrees. I would try to repaste it and make some UV.
I think it's like a power supply or something to do with the power being an issue
Ive gotten several "refurbished" laptops for various clients and every one had a skin, usually to hide blemishes on the cover, hence "refurbished".
The USB-C port on the laptop seems to be a Thunderbolt 3 port, so that makes it possible to connect an external eGPU to the laptop so you can run a desktop gpu with a laptop :D
Why would you do that?
@@fluo69 because it's an option if the internal iGPU/dGPU is bad
@@berkant_k isnt it better to just make a pc yourself?
@F l u o amv Well yes of course, but if you have a laptop with tb3 and don't want a desktop then it's not a bad idea imo
@@fluo69 carry my pc everywhere then
love the trackpoint style mouse. better then any modern touchpad
Add new thermal past, it may be old causing it to reach the threshold and just shutdown after cooling off it powers back on and repeats the cycle indicating bad thermals paste?
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I had an Asus with allmost the same specs that started to do the same thing after a couple of years. The problem was the video card that hit high temps and ends with mobo damage. unlucky.
Crazy thing is I just bought a Acer aspire 3 17" refurbished from eBay and im convinced I know so much and chose to do it because of the toasty bros probably one of my favorite channels on CZcams by far
The processor in that thing looked like it was cooking and thermal throttling. Might need some new paste. It also might need a new CMOS battery. I'd also just go through checking the other hardware. Although, since you expected a fully working laptop I would just do an eBay return. I'd also make sure that power brick is the one that came with it, and not some lower wattage one.
Nope. Normal temperature, I have same in msi Apache thats going fine up to 90C for 6 years. These noobs have problem with powerbrick cos this laptop needs 180w brick and they have Im sure way weaker.
Most Dell Precision mobile workstations require a 240w AC adapter.
I'm a nub-guy! Been since the IBM Thinkpad days. Even kept a stash of spare nubs as they wore out fairly quickly back then.
Kind of surprised you didn't try the troubleshooting step of reseating the RAM and drive. Something could have shaken loose in transit and it was good enough to boot when under stress cut out.
Nothing was moving while gaming
@@ricardofranco4114 The laptop was shipped to them, it did quite a lot of moving before it reached the Toasty Bros.
I've troubleshooted laptops for friends before now and 90% of the problems were fixed by simply reseating the drive and RAM.
The duo have had to reseat things in desktops that have been shipped to them, so for them not to do it for a laptop is very odd.
@@ricardofranco4114 are you serious?
@@voteDCwhile I have to agree those are steps you can take, it is somewhat unlikely for this to be the issue. If the laptops ram was not seated properly, memory would be throwing errors and would likely blue screen. If the drive was the issue, windows would slowly fall apart as only the items in memory would be running. This is definitely a power issue due to the fact that no errors were thrown and no graphical or windows related anomalies were seen. The computer and screen simply shut off at once.
I have a Dell precision from 2015 and it's nice gotta say. Got it for $175 from my local computer shop and yeah, it games. Can play GTA at 30 fps and has a 1tb HDD for all the games I have and there is no problems
it would be cool if you guys could fix it maybe re do some thermal paste and get a replacement battery clean the thing out
That "USB C" in your video is actually a thunderbolt port so you can plug an EGPU into it
Had a problem with a laptop that would randomly shut off the battery was causing it removed it worked fine ever since
Workstation laptop, it was really very expensive in its day. Dual graphics, so you could have toyed with that (disable one, try to game on another). Overall however, these are relatively old, 2017-2018 and were not actually for businessmen , more like for graphics designers with their Quadro cards. Having said that, if you find one in working condition it could actually game . Games from PS3 era would not be a problem, even some more modern from PS4 era.
They are on sale on dells refurbished site for less than 400 for 2200 quadro 4gb and 32 gb ram and an i7 68something or another with a 512 GB SSD I ordered one recently and amd excited to have a decent replacement to my hp gaming laptop that had so many issues
I would expect a tech channel to open it up and do some troubleshooting, but nope!
No mux switch I'm guessing, it would be solid for low end video ending at a workstation.
I would really try messing with the settings more. Maybe you have a Nvidia control Panel setting that is messing it up
Try to use touchpad in move.
Trackpoint works awesome in move.
This must be a battery issue, I had the same problem with my Dell laptop, disable the battery must fix the issue
performance of the M2200 is pretty close to the 1060 Max-Q, so not terribad at all.
I literally have that same laptop for work. Use if for AutoCAD and have 2 other monitors hooked up to it through a docking station thru the USB-C...but mine is the 7720
I would better to see a troubleshoot for this laptop what is the problem exactly.
Overwatch 2 stays at 60 FPS because in the settings for the FPS it is on "Automatic" , so it stays at 60 FPS because of the screen refresh rate. 🙂
Did you check the CMOS battery? It stated on one of your crashes that it lost the date/time....
Strange that it did that if they didn't remove the laptop battery.
I wonder if it might benefit from a 280w Dell power adapter.
Bingo. 180w not enough for Precision 77xx.
I bought this laptop 9 months ago and it's been amazing. I never had the turning off problem. I just use it to watch movies, school stuff, and some light gaming (LoL, WoW, Planetside 2)
I would like to have seen you guys troubleshoot it just for the experience---I know as sellers you have the perspective of looking for good customer service, BUT---it would be interesting to see the process of bringing this potentially great PC back up to snuff...i.e. it would be good content? maybe?
true i want to see it being troubleshot cause i think it would make a good video and rlly do wanna see its true potential.
@@thedemondevii883 agreed!
I think it is just a 60Hz Screen that is why you have a 60fps limit.
That's not how that works lol
This issue with laptop seems like power delivery issue. The temps were around 85°C which is fine for laptop i7 under load and gpu temps were around 65°C... Maybe the Laptop was damaged or something?
The laptop needs the original 240 Watt brick, which looks completely different than the one he pulls out of the box. They are using a 180 W brick from a latitude or other machine. I agree 100% it is a power delivery issue and nothing more.
I think it's overheating, so the laptop automatically shuts down. Changing thermal paste and undervolting can be the solution.
if you saw the temps of the pc it wasn't overheating, 70c is perfectly fine
it should throttle in the 80-90s and shutdown if reaches like 95-100c
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*I brought a $300 laptop a year ago and it kept powering off like this, I removed the battery and I never had that problem again. It seems the battery had difficulty charging (it only goes up to 10% then falls over time)... even while plugged in, once the battery drops to 3% or so the computer will turn off*
You switched the battery with a new one right?
@@darkd00d22 I should but I haven't. It's been working perfectly without a battery in it.
I do use the nub, and I use it left handed because I am left handed. It puts my thumb in the right spot for left clicks, so it works.
You do know there's a way to change the main click mouse key in windows right? Just asking.
make sure fans are working right
make sure PSU is providing the right amount of watts (they can age out of use)
make sure its not thermal booting
try to disable the dGPU and game, check for locks/crashes.
I got this laptop a year ago and I've played Planetside 2, WoW and League on it and all games run flawless on mid settings (PS2 suffers in big battles). I think the problem you guys had were uniquie.
Maybe it's the power supply? I used to have a problem with a power supply I bought for my laptop that would cause the laptop to shut off randomly when I played games changed the power supply it never happened again
I was the first to recommend this laptop on a previous video.
Also there is the 5000 series which is the same specks but in a xps chassis
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Great as always boys!
Disappointed they didn't do alot of troubleshooting a few updates sure but they could of opened it up check the ram the cpu maybe it needs new paste see if the battery is bad even see if the power brick they have is what it needs to function properly. i feel like its a hard drive problem i had similar problems with my laptop not the same type but it would just turn off randomly you could turn it on but it would just stop working then 2 weeks later hard drive failure
I had the same problem when I downgraded my laptop to windows 10. I returned it to windows 11. apparently several geforce windows 10 drivers have a problem on windows 10 laptops. try to upload it to windows 11
Please test Lenovo y700 and version. It got jbl sounds with subwoofer
Can you use AnTuTu benchmark in every laptop? It's available in window I understand AnTuTu benchmark more
oh hell yeah im so early im here before the universe was concieved, nice content guys
As soon as you pulled out the power supply I knew why you had crashes. I am on my fourth gen of the Dell Precision workstations and know that for the test you are running you need the correct PSU, 240 Watts, the larger flatter brick that shipped from dell. I once forgot my brick, had to buy the same wrong one at a thrift store and learned this same lesson. Your ebay seller gave you the wrong PSU.
i have old precision m4600 2nd gen. and i also faced the same shut offs as2force. did everything and they never go away. what finally did and fix it was i disabled optimus. so only use the dedicated GPU and ever since no as2force error. typing all this from m4600.
Just ordered one, going to give it a shot and return it if it’s a lemon like the one you guys received. $300 is a steal if it works.
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Let us now please
Laptop was delivered today and passed CPU and GPU stress testing with no issues. Mine has a 180 watt charger. Thanks for the heads up on this deal, Toasty Bros!
@@zero2dashhow is it now? Did you order it from eBay?
You guys need a more powerful power adapter. That's why it's shutting down...
I bought an MSI gaming laptop with gtx960m, 16gb ram and an i7 for €250. Pretty sweet for my coursework and some casual gaming!
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thats a thermal issue. This is a known problem with dell precision laptops. use an older thermal managment software from intel and it solves the problem.
I grew up using that mouse nub, I had IBM ThinkPads.
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It's pretty cool to change my older laptop of 12 years for this new Laptop Dell.
It's cost 380$ for Black Friday😅
i think the bios battery is dying as from that message
Those shutdowns look like a classic cmos battery failure.
Wow that laptop is a lemon. Could need to be cleaned or new thermal paste/pads but honestly you shouldn't be expected to have to do that.
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I think it had thermal shutdown due to overprocess not a good laptop for high temperature
try getting new ssd for it or reinstalling windows... ive had computers before that would crash on certain versions of windows 10 but not others...
I have the 17" version the 7720 it's such a good laptop
I was able to get a dell laptop for 250$ that has an I7 8th gen with a gtx 1060 6gb with 16gb 3200 mhz ram
I got lucky when i ordered Hp zbook 17 G5 and got a higher spec zbook 17 G6 instead. I got one with 8cores xeon, 32gb ram and 8gb quadro rtx 4000 which costed me $500. I just jumped out of my chair and screemed because i ordered i7 version of g5, with 32gb and 6gb vram. sometimes lucks comes by the way
I had this laptop like 6 years ago. It was good but the battery was crap.
I think that it might be cord from the CPU to the monitor
The laptop nub was wonderful before touchpads became mainstream. It's still good in certain use cases. Nothing beats plugging in an external mouse though. Well... maybe a pen tablet if you're an artist... what i'm trying to say it DEPENDS!
It depends
"nothing beats an external mouse" then you've never really used the trackpoint
What is the name of this laptop?
back in my day we'd be lucky to get 20seconds of overwatch gameplay xD
I know. Some people don't appreciate the raw processing power of this laptop. 😂
@@BREEZYM6015 dell machines have a short shelf life. One year your playing Hitman 2 60fps and another year you can barely run CSGo 🤣
The keyboard mouse nub thing is designed for people who use laptops outdoors in extreme cold weather ect. Because you can control the mouse with it while using gloves… it’s great for engineering, construction, and military occupations
That is also why it has a quadro instead of GeForce gtx
This this is why Lenovo would lose half of their business, if they ever got rid of the red dot knob on their keyboards for their laptops.
try putting in 32GB dual channel ddr4 2133mhz Ram the BIOS doesn't support 2400mhz
Got one of these for free but with the amd wx 4130 2gb. Upgrade the ram to 32gb and got a Nvidia Quadro p4000m $200 and sold it for $800 on eBay lol. Easy flip. Got an older m6800 which I’ll have it upgraded the k3100m 4gb to a tesla m6 8gb (basically a m5000m/980m) which I’ll try to bios flash it. Wife wants to use it.
Thoughts on the Gtx 770 for budget builds?
Wont work for dx12 titles but works perfect for esports and older titles. My brother runs one in his rig still.
Where are you buying from? There may be better graphics cards for around the same price depending on what you're looking for and who your seller is
you can get 960s and 970s cheap atm that still have some support aswell as 3gb 1060s rx 570 and 580s etc aswell
@@blainecountysherrif4542 I got a 4gb version of it for 100$ Canadian after I gave him my r7 260x
I have a 770 and it wasn't bad and dx12 support isn't a problem because it can't handle anyway
If your reading this, i have the same laptop but 7720 version. it does 60 fps on every game
no crashes, 2nd onwer
I certainly use that nub, and will not buy a laptop without it. It's just so convenient.
How? It's so uncomfortable
I have one and it turns off randomly. I blame 7 year old Dell junk. That bios error you got in a dead CMOS.
i think my friend bought this. I wonder how it'll turn out for him.
It's probably a old battery issue