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  • G2 vs XL Highlights Game 1, Game 2, Game 3, Game 4, Game 5 ALL GAMES | GRAND FINAL LEC Summer 2023 Playoffs | G2 Esports vs Excel
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  • @leeccilee7605
    @leeccilee7605 Před 11 měsíci +386

    aw man the amount of times G2 got out with low hp throughout the series must've been such a mental breaker

    • @killua-qg4cm
      @killua-qg4cm Před 11 měsíci +2

      Well if they dont have enough dmg to kill g2 thats their problem

    • @karldomini845
      @karldomini845 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Even as a G2 fan, this last game hurt so much to just look at it. The Interview of XL was pretty sadistic after the game. Understandable ultra salty.

    • @FearTheBlades
      @FearTheBlades Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@killua-qg4cm Nobody is saying it isn't

  • @PastaDiMama44
    @PastaDiMama44 Před 11 měsíci +257

    Well, this series went as what everyone thought it would go last week.

    • @godlgnv1155
      @godlgnv1155 Před 11 měsíci +20

      It showed the difference between a G2 on a bad day vs G2 on a good day 😂

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 Před 11 měsíci

      @@godlgnv1155 more like g2 unprepared vs g2 prepared

  • @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV
    @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV Před 11 měsíci +60

    Man, Caps made him look like 100T Abbedagge again. What a performance.

    • @user-uz9cx7ql7u
      @user-uz9cx7ql7u Před 11 měsíci +7

      It wasnt just caps,abbedage choked it way too much,late tps,bad auto attack targetting,in general bro was an impostor

    • @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV
      @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV Před 11 měsíci

      @@user-uz9cx7ql7u That's why I wanted to call him 100T Abbe, because he was terrible for most of his time there.

  • @tube3183
    @tube3183 Před 11 měsíci +323

    Yike went 15/1/45 in those 3 games.
    Just insane.

    • @p1a2u3l4ify
      @p1a2u3l4ify Před 11 měsíci +2

      really?? lmfao thats insane🤣

    • @grrumakemeangry
      @grrumakemeangry Před 11 měsíci +3

      kda doesnt matter

    • @aleksanderwirzbicki3485
      @aleksanderwirzbicki3485 Před 11 měsíci +67

      ​@@grrumakemeangrybullshit, of course it does. And it is highly impressive, that Yike died only 1 time through 3 games while playing 2 of them as Rell and Seju

    • @Jmvzao
      @Jmvzao Před 11 měsíci +23

      That dash from the baron pit on game 2 to instantly ult XL's adc was a masterpiece

    • @abgar3589
      @abgar3589 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Jankos was a problem 😌

  • @antigonish6212
    @antigonish6212 Před 11 měsíci +57

    Caps is now the first player to win 9 LEC (or EU LCS) titles

  • @motnurky7055
    @motnurky7055 Před 11 měsíci +160

    Yike must've made a deal with the devil with how many times he lived at pixel hp

    • @user-th5cq5qb5j
      @user-th5cq5qb5j Před 11 měsíci +1

      *Ocelote

    • @gerardorocha8731
      @gerardorocha8731 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@user-th5cq5qb5j hes isnt even with G2, he got kicked

    • @user-th5cq5qb5j
      @user-th5cq5qb5j Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@gerardorocha8731 thats PR lol

    • @motnurky7055
      @motnurky7055 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@user-th5cq5qb5j he's a pr nightmare lmao

    • @user-th5cq5qb5j
      @user-th5cq5qb5j Před 11 měsíci

      @@motnurky7055 bro his only interview at Worlds crying and saying fk 5 times was epic :)

  • @96dragonhunter
    @96dragonhunter Před 11 měsíci +9

    8:46 I don't know why caster said " Micky's shield is facing wrong direction". He clearly blocked all of Xayah feathers that she recalled with E, his shield was definately facing the right direction!

  • @mugiberry1207
    @mugiberry1207 Před 11 měsíci +44

    The amount of times that G2 lived with one HP would have been very tilting

  • @sidawan9297
    @sidawan9297 Před 11 měsíci +50

    8:43 bruh, that braum shield definietly didnt look the wrong way

    • @Kahuna7676
      @Kahuna7676 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It is to stop xayah e man

    • @sidawan9297
      @sidawan9297 Před 11 měsíci +27

      @@Kahuna7676 u do get that i was saying this cuz the commentator said it was facing the bad way while it didnt, right?

    • @Tomatoffel
      @Tomatoffel Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@sidawan9297yeah so when xaya pulls back her feathers they do damage and can even root people. That's what braum tried to prevent.

    • @sidawan9297
      @sidawan9297 Před 11 měsíci +28

      @@Tomatoffel bruhhhhh, no offense but you guys... Are something else xd

    • @ItsXeri
      @ItsXeri Před 11 měsíci +30

      the lack of reading comprehension on these replies are crazy

  • @janustran5527
    @janustran5527 Před 11 měsíci +25

    Caps's dad is so cute. He's been so supportive to him.

    • @srnght
      @srnght Před 11 měsíci +1

      wholesome

    • @janustran5527
      @janustran5527 Před 11 měsíci

      @@srnght I'm from Vietnam, Caps and his dad make me admire them so much that I really stayed up late to watch all their matches 😂😂

  • @NPARKML
    @NPARKML Před 11 měsíci +18

    G2's in and out teamfighting is just gorgeous to watch

    • @96dragonhunter
      @96dragonhunter Před 11 měsíci +2

      I can definately see that Chineese influence there. I am not getting my hopes up or anything, but that was very strong performance on all levels.

  • @AtharasGaming
    @AtharasGaming Před 11 měsíci +34

    G2 woke up and chose violence

  • @maximollanos3914
    @maximollanos3914 Před 11 měsíci +108

    Congratulations to G2 Esports The best organization that Europe has ever produced there, 11 LEC Titles close any type of Debate, Congratulations and Good luck in the World Cup.

    • @N1kol4N1k
      @N1kol4N1k Před 11 měsíci +3

      Yeah, they just always disappoint at international tournaments in the past couple of years, make me wanna try to send someone else instead.

    • @penchev2843
      @penchev2843 Před 11 měsíci +42

      @@N1kol4N1k did you see MAD internationally?

    • @blankspace7801
      @blankspace7801 Před 11 měsíci +12

      ​@@N1kol4N1knot sure if any other EU team has a chance tho, pretty sure what has kept G2 somewhat afloat in International events are their flexibility/diversity in champs or like making their own 'good enough' meta

    • @wojtekkrool
      @wojtekkrool Před 11 měsíci +27

      ​@@N1kol4N1k yo man, G2 is the exact opposite of what you say dude xd Its the only EU team that despite not always being the best domestically they perform the best out of all EU teams xd

    • @PastaDiMama44
      @PastaDiMama44 Před 11 měsíci +29

      ​@@N1kol4N1k nah bro. G2 is the only organisation that keeps EU alive internationally.

  • @kostaslanis1913
    @kostaslanis1913 Před 11 měsíci +38

    Yike is by far the best eu jungler

  • @years-ti7xl
    @years-ti7xl Před 11 měsíci +83

    You thought Perkz was the best, you thought Rekkles was the best. And then we get Caps being the first player to win 9 LEC titles. Quite the record.

    • @mrman880
      @mrman880 Před 11 měsíci +2

      They didnt count that BS "winter split" win as a title did they?

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@mrman880???

    • @ccc-eb3yk
      @ccc-eb3yk Před 11 měsíci +12

      not just titles, Caps is simply more talented and it's not close

    • @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV
      @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV Před 11 měsíci +8

      ​@@mrman880 Obviously, since it counted for championship points. Just mad cause your favorite team didn't win it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @bloodyrozen
      @bloodyrozen Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah caps discovered by fnatic dont forget it

  • @strahinjamitic1542
    @strahinjamitic1542 Před 11 měsíci +81

    It always feels like g2 can compete with eastern teams, but lately they just cant prove that. This team looks a lot like 2019 one so i hope g2 can bring atleast semis for the west.

    • @vento5314
      @vento5314 Před 11 měsíci +19

      Problem is that nobody can really level up G2. Example with that is that all the teams in LPL would give G2 a hard time.
      (For example look at team thats are even 8/9th in LPL and imagine those teams in LEC or LCS)

    • @strahinjamitic1542
      @strahinjamitic1542 Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@vento5314 ik bro, last teams from lck/lpl would probably be 2nd seed in lec, behind g2 in my opinion

    • @Finkaisar
      @Finkaisar Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@vento5314 Yeah only g2 could be good, but when every other team is just playing boring meta while being worse than g2, g2 just cant improve in this region

    • @stoikakoev780
      @stoikakoev780 Před 11 měsíci

      @@strahinjamitic1542 lck top 2 team will be even or little better then g2 other teams from lck will be even or worse

    • @69trize
      @69trize Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@strahinjamitic1542You didn’t watch a lot of LCK to say that, a lot of teams are actually worse than Vitality

  • @96dragonhunter
    @96dragonhunter Před 11 měsíci +4

    What a blast of a series, Caps, BrokenBlade and Hans Sama get a quadra kill each woah

  • @johannhofinger4124
    @johannhofinger4124 Před 11 měsíci +3

    The Goal for XL was kicking out Koi is respect that they had fun.
    GG XL i like you guys more and more 😁

  • @thebaohuynh1973
    @thebaohuynh1973 Před 11 měsíci +23

    Best channel, thank you for uploading that fast!

    • @michaelgray4552
      @michaelgray4552 Před 11 měsíci

      Han Sama is the best Western carry. Caps on form with a good draw they can be dangerous at worlds. They play multiple styles too and different champs

  • @epicmanftw
    @epicmanftw Před 11 měsíci +12

    Love to see the interview at the end. Avoiding spoilers and seeing caps smile is nice :)

  • @renasoliveira
    @renasoliveira Před 11 měsíci +1

    Well, this was quick! 🔥

  • @Marckos198
    @Marckos198 Před 11 měsíci +9

    G2 last msi shows good potential lets see if they improve at international stage

  • @summonersummoner9536
    @summonersummoner9536 Před 11 měsíci

    That was super fun to watch dude ty

  • @cardmaster971
    @cardmaster971 Před 11 měsíci +24

    how do you leave kaisa 3 games open in a row is something i cannot understand, anyways GG G2.

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Cuz you have to ban other picks

    • @abgar3589
      @abgar3589 Před 11 měsíci

      For me more interesting is how could they leave rell open 🤣

  • @VV4STER
    @VV4STER Před 11 měsíci +3

    I am g2 fan only bcs of caps , beeing like that for years , but afther many years there is another player who i rly see world class and its hans sama , this guy is rly fcking amazing this year if he will keep form like this g2 will be rly high class team , ofc they are all good but this 2 players are just game changers from any state of game i think ❤

    • @xanthavelios
      @xanthavelios Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hans Sama here is literally what G2 were hoping for when they signed Rekkles in 2020

  • @Davedotdash
    @Davedotdash Před 11 měsíci +2

    Caps interview with his dad kind of has the water works coming im not gonna lie

  • @godlgnv1155
    @godlgnv1155 Před 11 měsíci +2

    G2 is izanami in person 😂❤

  • @mateuszochman5075
    @mateuszochman5075 Před 11 měsíci

    18:44 damn cleanest oorn animation cancels I've seen

  • @user-th5cq5qb5j
    @user-th5cq5qb5j Před 11 měsíci +2

    31:00 everybody comes back from North America with a traumatic injury, it must be the best country in the whole world.

  • @rickyismyuncle4485
    @rickyismyuncle4485 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Yike better than Jankos. XL can still be proud, very close games.

  • @lukeoliver1189
    @lukeoliver1189 Před 11 měsíci +15

    There’s me on an edible looking forward to a good series… F 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @10Robson10
    @10Robson10 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Caps is GOAT

  • @Heavenlux777
    @Heavenlux777 Před 11 měsíci +2

    at this day g2 was invincible

  • @wnazgul
    @wnazgul Před 11 měsíci +2

    Eventough they dont feel as strong as g2 2019 or as the lpl lck. They rlly look like on a whole other level compared to the other lec teams. Can hardly call this competition.

  • @_Lydes_
    @_Lydes_ Před 11 měsíci

    Bro G2 to is unique level. They can't take a breath

  • @samsbookbook3425
    @samsbookbook3425 Před 11 měsíci +2

    i mean everything came together for G2 they plaed insane. Big credits to Mikyx - he played way above EU Level this series And Yike is a "skill lvl Asia" jungler. Hope they hold this lvl for the worlds

    • @grogeevee
      @grogeevee Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yes, alas G2 fluctuates a lot in their performance. One day they could go head to head with GenG and the next day lose to PSG Talon. Also really depends on if Caps decided to be Claps or Craps that day. In MSI, G2 would have beaten GenG in bo5 if Caps wasn't Craps that day.

    • @samsbookbook3425
      @samsbookbook3425 Před 11 měsíci

      @grogeevee Yes we have the same point of view :) caps sadly performed not good at MSI. But letz see how it goes next time on international stage

  • @8Baczek
    @8Baczek Před 11 měsíci +9

    Uploaded so fast thanks to G2

    • @iulian844
      @iulian844 Před 11 měsíci +3

      thanks to your mom choking on it

    • @wood5241
      @wood5241 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@iulian844 Ha.ha.ha.ha.ha yawn*. FuNnY MaN

  • @othmanehemamou7503
    @othmanehemamou7503 Před 11 měsíci

    They don’t have competition in LEC ridiculous how the lvl is big between the teams arghh

  • @wizzzeu
    @wizzzeu Před 11 měsíci +7

    Bro what did u all expect here...no disrespect xl definitely deserved their spot in the finals they were a really good team but lets be honest here a serious and consistent g2 is at minimum one level above all the other eu teams...gg

  • @DimanArtworks
    @DimanArtworks Před 11 měsíci +1

    a classic EU finisher

  • @luukdewaal9648
    @luukdewaal9648 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Well G2 is truly the only hope for Europe, holy crap they made XL look like amateurs. Also Yike really has to practice more with his smites because he is literally losing every single 50/50 smite it is getting a bit disgusting

    • @tomsrudzitis4942
      @tomsrudzitis4942 Před 11 měsíci

      This series maybe, but he was really good with them before. Also he wont be no Jankos thats for sure, but he will improve.

    • @fujisyusuuke1709
      @fujisyusuuke1709 Před 11 měsíci

      Yikes don't lose 50/50 smite, he smites champions, not objectives.

    • @luukdewaal9648
      @luukdewaal9648 Před 11 měsíci

      @@tomsrudzitis4942 watch last series vs XL lmao he loses every 50/50 even on champs like Maokai

  • @jjacob2749
    @jjacob2749 Před 11 měsíci +1

    but sometimes i dont understand why (for example game 3 first 2 kills are not in video) not every kill is showed

  • @juhlian4255
    @juhlian4255 Před 11 měsíci

    Really curious how yike fares against Asian junglers. I hope he does well, but I’m kinda scared he’s just going to get rolled

    • @Valorios
      @Valorios Před 11 měsíci +2

      He was doing fine at msi

  • @DrakezKnighT
    @DrakezKnighT Před 11 měsíci

    Bro I feel Mid XL is Pain to watch

  • @datura2883
    @datura2883 Před 11 měsíci

    What other finals are they exactly talking about? Arent they going at worlds now? Cuz i dont really get it

  • @colinboland5116
    @colinboland5116 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Was someone booing caps’ dad as he walked off? What’s that about like wtf let the dude be a supportive dad

    • @Valorios
      @Valorios Před 11 měsíci

      I think it was a siuuu chant, but could be wrong

  • @Quatschgold
    @Quatschgold Před 11 měsíci +3

    Can someone tell me, who of Europe is going to worlds?

    • @filippomezzetti3723
      @filippomezzetti3723 Před 11 měsíci +4

      After summer there is the final split with 6 teams, the first 3 goes to worlds directly the fourth go against lcs 4th for the spot in worlds

    • @Quatschgold
      @Quatschgold Před 11 měsíci

      @@filippomezzetti3723 very much thank you :D
      Who is going from Europe?

    • @doomywastaken9753
      @doomywastaken9753 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@Quatschgold The possible teams are: FNC, G2, BDS, XL, MAD, SK

  • @felicihugo8554
    @felicihugo8554 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Is G2 EUW 1st seed for winning summer ?

  • @felicihugo8554
    @felicihugo8554 Před 11 měsíci

    No draven bans this time 😮 ? Hans maMaw ?

  • @MrBeastKorea
    @MrBeastKorea Před 11 měsíci +1

    Sidestep gap

  • @penchev2843
    @penchev2843 Před 11 měsíci +1

    it feels like XL just rolled over and did nothing. Not to discredit G2

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt Před 11 měsíci +15

      I think after how many times a g2 player got away with single/double digit hp, it completely killed their mental. Plus, last week g2 kinda...tried to just ego/hands diff XL and they got punished. G2 took it way more seriously this time and the result speaks for itself lol

  • @Stevenwachteven
    @Stevenwachteven Před 11 měsíci

    "Miky's shield is facing the wrong direction" clueless caster kek

  • @SWillis474
    @SWillis474 Před 11 měsíci

    Jax defo not broke though

  • @currybot52
    @currybot52 Před 11 měsíci

    It aint luck if it happens so often

  • @burakdemirci880
    @burakdemirci880 Před 11 měsíci +1

    i love XL

  • @melih2496
    @melih2496 Před 11 měsíci +2

    as i said before all of the xl did is just to get 3-0d by the g2

  • @Thebakedbaker413
    @Thebakedbaker413 Před 11 měsíci

    Not what I'm used to from the lec...glhf at world's.

  • @KuyaLitz-GuideMeLord
    @KuyaLitz-GuideMeLord Před 11 měsíci

    Lpl and lck are strong, defeat them in worlds 😅

  • @McSuperKnight
    @McSuperKnight Před 11 měsíci +5

    Spoiler!!!!
    Uploads be faster than XL loss🥰

  • @IIVIIOJICA10
    @IIVIIOJICA10 Před 11 měsíci

    Feel like limit and preach played really bad. Mickyx mvp

  • @ptvo7969
    @ptvo7969 Před 11 měsíci

    would've been a better series if fnc made it.

  • @mhamedzitouni6518
    @mhamedzitouni6518 Před 11 měsíci +2

    xl : we are best team in euw we beat fnc 3/1
    g2 / hold my beer plz

    • @andreasjanzer2349
      @andreasjanzer2349 Před 11 měsíci +1

      hold my grizzly bro

    • @mhamedzitouni6518
      @mhamedzitouni6518 Před 11 měsíci

      @@andreasjanzer2349 it was autocorrect man lmao yeah i just saw it lol when the phone is craving for bears

  • @venomtrue
    @venomtrue Před 11 měsíci

    This is soo bad... G2 have no worthy opponent on LEC, and that's why LPL and LCS are still unreachable for LEC. Iff only G2 have more opportunity to play against top 5 teams from LPL and LCK, LoL worlds would not be strict LPL vs LCK again.

  • @shohidniyaz8117
    @shohidniyaz8117 Před 11 měsíci +1

    first?

  • @truth.-
    @truth.- Před 11 měsíci +3

    Might have been the most embarrassing final ever, and to think fnatic lost to this and the fans are happy with it 🤡🤡.
    Really shows how badly the management killed an org that used to be G2's only rival.

  • @itsgrumpypants6056
    @itsgrumpypants6056 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Pin for spoiler block :)

  • @cleasthell5724
    @cleasthell5724 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Limit has produced one of the lowest lvl of play ive ever seen in lec history

  • @0CrYZz0
    @0CrYZz0 Před 11 měsíci

    Idk, G2 finals are always boring af

  • @tmlpgm
    @tmlpgm Před 11 měsíci +1

    All the same champs everyday lol

  • @Riptide09
    @Riptide09 Před 11 měsíci

    FARMERS LEAGUE 🤡🤡🤡

  • @treyeschristiandave7771
    @treyeschristiandave7771 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Boring game its like g2 vs 5 bots

  • @Schoko3100
    @Schoko3100 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I think G2 can compete with LPL and LCK Teams on a good day. But that wont be enough if u only can do so much on your best day against an avg asian performing team. Its not even G2 fault but the rest of the region is just so far behind that its almost impossible to improve. Just look at the MSI G2 and the G2 now. They got a glimps of what actual top tier League of Legends looks like and improved so much over just a few weeks. If u could scrim and play against top teams the whole year you would be able to actual do something on an international Tourny. But if that is the LEC Second seed idk man. How the hell do u push your limits??

  • @meej6452
    @meej6452 Před 11 měsíci

    Spoiler block… Lol jk, G2 won.

  • @Kiraxen
    @Kiraxen Před 11 měsíci

    Sadly G2 still too weak to face eastern team. If they just breeze through their region its not a sign of dominance, but how low this regions level is. Grim times.

    • @tomsrudzitis4942
      @tomsrudzitis4942 Před 11 měsíci

      I think it shows both. At this point we know how bad lec is, so it is better that G2 dominates and not that they get pushed to their limits by a team like xl (sadly last bo5 happened but it doesnt really count). Basically if they dominate there is still hope that they really are levels above.

  • @luiscuevas3239
    @luiscuevas3239 Před 11 měsíci

    Good like in international Europe! All your teams look like LCK/LPL bottom tier teams 😂😢.

    • @alexandernaydenov7539
      @alexandernaydenov7539 Před 11 měsíci

      G2 is not on that table they are above ur lck teams 🥱

    • @luiscuevas3239
      @luiscuevas3239 Před 11 měsíci

      @@alexandernaydenov7539 Yep, getting buttfucked by BLG proves that!

  • @bass186
    @bass186 Před 10 měsíci

    28:55 I'm not crying, you are crying...

  • @rikimaru3239
    @rikimaru3239 Před 11 měsíci

    this has to be the worst final ever lol

  • @TikTreasures-xi1xr
    @TikTreasures-xi1xr Před 11 měsíci +1

    i start to thinkm that either G2 cheats, or they have some sort of agreement with a demon and they just too lucky on these plays

    • @Kahuna7676
      @Kahuna7676 Před 11 měsíci +9

      When it happens once or twice I can talk about luck but when it s happening over and over it’s called skill

  • @user-bg2jr2jl4v
    @user-bg2jr2jl4v Před 11 měsíci

    dude g2 looks terrible they look strong because xl is a stupid team 😢😂
    caps picking aything in the midlane what a joke if he does that in against asian teams he will get abliterated

    • @alexandernaydenov7539
      @alexandernaydenov7539 Před 11 měsíci

      what a comment you are such a living meme 🤣🤣🤣

    • @martinhoang9217
      @martinhoang9217 Před 11 měsíci +1

      G2 win- other team is weak
      G2 loss-g2 soo bad Eu is doomed.

    • @user-bg2jr2jl4v
      @user-bg2jr2jl4v Před 11 měsíci

      @@alexandernaydenov7539 how many times did caps get destroyed HAHAHA and its gonna happen again this year

    • @user-bg2jr2jl4v
      @user-bg2jr2jl4v Před 11 měsíci

      trying to defend g2 but deep inside of you u know g2 is a mediocre team and they will go 0-5 again in worlds

    • @alexandernaydenov7539
      @alexandernaydenov7539 Před 11 měsíci

      @@user-bg2jr2jl4v ur fnc is biggest fraud ever jimmy

  • @rafaelkutter4957
    @rafaelkutter4957 Před 11 měsíci +3

    XL playing like prime SKT to beat FNC so they could go and troll 3 drafts and be completely stomped on the finals. G2 is amazing, but they're really lucky sometimes, FNC in a good day can beat them.