Wealth, Poverty, and Politics
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- Recorded on September 18, 2015
Hoover Institution fellow Thomas Sowell discusses poverty around the world and in the United States. Poverty in America, he says, compared to the rest of the world, is not severe. Many poor people in poverty in the United States have one or two cars, central heating, and cell phones. The real problem for the poor is the destruction of the family, which Sowell argues dramatically increased once welfare policies were introduced in the 1960s.
Thomas Sowell should have been the first black president.
Yes. I couldn't agree more. He would have been a good one because he is actually a deeper thinking man than most.
"Don't let schooling interfere with your education." ~ Mark Twain
So True. Coz schools have rheir own agendas and propagandas and it varies from school to school, private or public or a mix of both.
Its for the schools to provide education but we as an individual are free choose our knowledge and how we apply in the world.
"This shit is wack" ~ Martin Luther King Jr.
Poverty doesn't cause broken homes, rather broken homes cause poverty.
I'm glad Dr. Sowell is looking healthy and animated despite being 85 years old. Hopefully his brilliance won't be hindered by age anytime soon.
+CottonCube Agreed!
+CottonCube Friedman lasted well into his 90's, and was sharp as a tack until the end. I hope we are blessed with Sowell for as long.
+CottonCube I know! He is such a gem. It would be a shame to lose him.
+CottonCube Ron Paul and Noam Chomsky are still trucking too. Let's hope that age doesn't slow any of them down.
+Joshua S. Grant you should see his earlier videos in the 1980s. He was in his fifties but he looked like he was in his 30s!
Reminds me of the saying "America is the only country in the world where the poor can be fat"
Australia has plenty of fat poor people.Our welfare state is far more generous than the US especially to illiterate muslims with four wives in contravention of Australian law who have been here on occasion for 18 years, can't speak English despite 500 hours of free government lessons, receive over $200,00o per year in cash, free medical and prescription for $5.20 free after $1000. Add a free people mover every 3 years.
So sad that I'm 35 yo and only now finding out about this guy. So many principles that I should have known about.
"If the government took over the Sahara there'd be a shortage of sand."
😆
I don't know why I lol'd at that.
Because you know it's true haha, yet we still pass laws that give more authority to government.
It is brilliant, I think the original is 'If the Federal Government took control of the Sahara desert, in five years there would be a shortage of sand'
Hans Dowmerpantz wasn't that said by Milton Friedman?
_yjm_14 Yep
If I were President, I would beg this man to be my chief economist.
:D
If I were President, I would make him my vice president and resign.
And he would say thanks but no thanks---as he did to Reagan when chosen to be Secretary of Education.
LOL
One of the greatest of men that has ever walked on this earth.
+feroxlara21 Amen, brother
+Joshua John Igoe
Boss Level over 9000!
Thomas Sowell converted me from Liberal to Free market libertarian
jason quinn The correct term is "Marxist." That it what he admitted to be and there is notable differences.
And one must also understand the difference between a Classical Liberal and a Modern Liberal.
Additionally, it should be a even greater sign that he converted from such an avid stance to the opposite side of the spectrum.
+jason quinn me too :)
I swear you can sit and watch these videos for a couple of weeks and learn a lot more than what children are being taught at liberal arts universities these days.
RustyHeels06 You should listen to Claude Anderson and Nelly Fuller as well.
RustyHeels06 I can almost vouch for this. I am extremely happy with my degree in criminal justice but almost every other class outside of my major was worthless and taught me close to nothing helpful, relevant, or factual.
Robinson is such an excellent interviewer. I love his format. He's extremely well structured, but what really makes him stand out is that it's evident that he's read the books, and has taken the time to think about them to formulate excellent questions.
Robinson's best questions are always, "Explain that"!
It should be a law, that for every minute of air time Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson gets on the national news, Thomas Sowell should get two.
"You cannot measure opportunity by outcomes" quote of the century right there, this guy is awesome
"I'm in poverty because that guy has a Porsche!"
I'm half german/ half turkish and I love thomas sowell! just imagine him being your uncle or grandfather... I could listen to him for hours
greetings from mainz, germany
Thomas Sowell is a damn national treasure that will be forgotten as fast as he's been dismissed. Watching a man like this proliferate the most common of all senses in an easy to understand form, and be unheard by the people who need to hear it most, is symbolic of the fall of America.
I feel like my intelligence level just went up. Thanks!
+Jason Bush I can only hope that mind did!
+J Danner mine?
+Jason Bush, Sowell has that effect on people.
+lahey ACutally.. it's the other way around.. of COURSE he wouldn't be seen more on such big. Oh does that sound conspiritorial? did you just get that feeling to reject/skeptic what i just said? Explore that 'feeling'? ask urself Why.
its too easy to pick holes in his narrow thinking thats why.
I really want to thank these two men. Before discovering Uncommon Knowledge I was just your run-of-the-mill, anti-American liberal Brit (we aren't exposed to many conservative voices over here across the pond). Uncommon Knowledge and Thomas Sowell introduced me to the civil, thoughtful, intellectual side of conservatism (which I now realize is at its heart) and introduced me to other thinkers and writers on the right which I would otherwise never have heard about. It completely changed my worldview. Thank you, keep up the good work, and God bless America.
I think you need to calm down a bit
And today, you have to learn English to listen and read the great Thomas Sowell. I'm glad I did!!!!!!
This is why I love Thomas Sowell and why he's one of my favorite non-fiction authors. He writes for the common-sense layperson, and his combination of facts, logic and common sense just blows the liberal worldview out of the water. Reading one book by Thomas Sowell makes you at least 3 times smarter than the average liberal. I've read dozens of his books over the years.
Dutch Martin knowledgeable
Dutch Martin dozens, as in 24+ books? wow you are indeed amazing. I have only read 7 of his books. Please list them for us.
duke of york There are just so many. Go to Amazon and type in Thomas Sowell.
I find Dr Sowells take on the take on America very refreshing. he shines a spot light on the stupidity of our institutions and the pest there in.
Sowell is a genius.
Thomas Sowell hit the nail on the head when he said how fast the economy could recover just from lowering taxes and easing regulations
Dr. Sowell is not only one of the smartest men on the topics of race, economics, the family, but one of the wisest public intellectuals as well. Is he politically incorrect? Absolutely. Is he tough on the President? Most definitely. In the eyes of many on the Left, that precludes them from covering his very intelligent musings in anything other than a very biased manner.
This man is one of the greatest intellectual assets this great nation is blessed to have. Many young individuals could learn a whole lot from this man. I know I have and have become the better for it.
Bill Richardson white people love blacks who never criticize them, the same way they loved Muhammad Ali when he could no longer speak. Yet they hated him and threatened him when he was critical. What a bizarre people.
duke of york If anyone sounds hateful it is you.
duke of york
You couldn’t be more wrong, believe it or not most human beings want to see their fellow human beings succeed. Not only for virtuous reasons, but because of the social and economic strain they place on society when they don’t succeed. We see a man who has thrown off the shackles of victimhood, refused to cower in the face of adversity and has succeeded. Why do you not see hope in him? You’re so desperate to find monsters that don’t exist to validate your inability to move forward in life. Do you really believe blacks are the only group of people that have suffered injustice? Do you believe blacks haven’t oppressed people?
You cherry pick history to confirm your narrative, every group has suffered injustices, so what!
Why do you only blame whites, why do you not hold arabs accountable, who quite literally still enslave blacks today.
I’m European, I feel no guilt. My ancestors held no slaves and each generations fought and many died for the freedoms you enjoy today. Just remember the best way to control a group of people is to convince them of their shared victimhood and then toss a few crumbs their way. Are you so attached to your victimhood, does it really mean that much to you that you’re willing to take the crumbs. Maybe you are? Because letting go of it would mean taking responsibility for yourself, admitting you are where you are due to your own actions.
Poverty and trauma can be passed generations to generations, but it doesn’t have to be and people of every race have suffered intragenerational trauma, I’m sorry but you don’t have a monopoly on suffering. Can I recommend you read Dr. Bruce Liptons book on epigenetics, the science is in its infancy but it’s very interesting. Also may I recommend Eckhart Tolle, and his speech on Ego.
Thomas Sowell's books should be required reading for all home-educated children. The man is a peripatetic education and a great teacher for our youth.
his excitement to discuss the different groups across the world is contagious.
I wish I would have known about Thomas Sowell at 18. I'm 33 now. Truly a man of true wisdom.
Thomas is a genius! My city cousins were quick to remind me I was poor when they came to visit our little dairy farm. But the only thing they knew anything about was playing with a ball. I had almost unlimited resources to learn new things. All I needed was curiosity. Our little city dump was a treasure of possibilities. We learned the basics of human out of necessity. One of our major advantages was that no one wanted outside our community wanted anything to do with us. Then the government tried to save us-it was down hill from there on. They built a straighter, wider highway through our little town, scraped away our city dump, tore down our line fences, regulated our little dairy farms, etc., etc. The town shut down so we had to drive to the ‘big’ towns for everything. Without line fences, the small farms merged into huge farms where huge machinery was required so kids no longer could participate safely and were replaced by transients so they no longer learned to drive as soon as they were strong enough to reach and push the clutch or learn about the soil or care of livestock. The government defined the poverty level and is now trying to define ‘happiness’. No thanks-how can miserable people who have never known real happiness define happiness when real people don’t all want to ‘play ball’?
I love your story, it's true and authentic! Thank you
Dr. Sowell and Dr. Friedman forever changed the world. Listening to their comparative analysis is something every young scholar should do.
Fascinating to listen to this 6 years later. Dr Sowell always has amazing insight.
I love this guy. How is it that I'm just learning about him?
He IS a treasure. A newly college-educated acquaintance of mine completely changed his politics after being exposed to Sowell, Steyn and Friedman. How is it that you "are just learning about him?" I suspect you just left the US Public School System, yes? Welcome aboard and enjoy the cruise!
BarbaraJoanneBJ I graduated many years ago. I didn't learn much from public school, they definitely didm't teach this stuff. I'm not sure why I haven't come across Thomas before...I guess I've spent too much of my life hanging with Lefty's. As I've gotten older and watched the "victim card" that's being preached to minorities in this country, I've started looking into facts and statistics to see what's really happening out there. Thomas should be required reading in all schools. especially inner city poorer schools where the students are constantly told the playing field in America isn't level for them because they're black or latino. That's the wrong message to pound into their heads.
I siad the same thing when I first heard him.
good question mate. I have just read 5 of his books. He is a hero of mine now.,
Probably because you grew up with extremely Left-wing biased education, like most people in the west did.
Can't stop watching these interviews with Sowell, just phenomenal conversation. Thank you for sharing this knowledge
Thomas Sowell . . . a genuine treasure
85 years young when this was recorded and his works and writing of past AND present continue to blow us away
The mind of thomas Sowell remains powerful and accurate into old age
29:12
"How do you know all this?!"
"Because of my research assistant."
I have never heard so many shocking facts in one interview, I am sitting here with my jaw dropped to the floor. Why aren´t these facts for example about Afro-American community mentioned in any newspaper or political debate? Why nobody can state facts in these days? What sort of democracy do we have? And most important question - who will replace these old guys and keep proliferating truth in their stead? The outlook is worse than bleak.
"Isolation almost invariably leads to poverty and backwardness." Tell that to John Galt why don't you. Just kidding everyone! Love this gentleman! Really happy he is still alive. R.I.P Friedman.
Truth be told; I could listen to Dr. Thomas Sowell all day and never tire of listening to the wisdom he exposes thru his historically factual common sense thinking. You are an American treasure Dr. Thomas Sowell!!
I consider myself blessed to have been exposed to this mans wisdom in my college years. salute!
50 years of helping us understand why Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" trapped Black culture in the US in poverty. Here he takes a larger view of detailed sociocultural data and builds stunningly insightful accounts of those data.
Uber Genie Did he also trap White farmers in poverty after decades of welfare in the form of subsidies, given to them to not grow crops and in some cases to burn their crops to keep the prices inflated? There has always been more whites on welfare than blacks, so he destroyed this segment of white welfare recipients as well?
I enjoy binge-watching his interviews. No matter how many times you watch him, it's always refreshing and quenches my thirst for knowledge and truth.
Wise man, that Thomas Sowell! ❤️. Common sense is the remedy to most of America’s problems!
Milton Friedman and F.A. Hayek are dead.; Sowell is 85; who next will carry the torch?
+Peter Kapeel This country will lose a national treasure when Dr. Sowell passes away.
+Peter Kapeel Tom Woods!
+Taewon Yoon I would add Walter Williams to the list, too.
Peter Kapeel Claude Anderson and Nelly Fuller are next!
Peter Kapeel. Jay Richards
I always love listening to this man!!!! Such a nice soul....
+Seyi 116 Because he "echoes" your core sentiments. I'm happy for the conservative academic. However, I've been in environments in the northwest where his conservatism wouldn't protect him for the slings and arrows suffered by his fellow men of color. Hayden Lake, for example. Then, too, a Lake Oswego stockbroker who befriended me, although I was just a parking lot attendant, told me that on vacation in the Coeur d'Alene area, he and his wife noticed "that old feelin'" coming from some of his associates there. So as long as the good professor is careful of his venue, those oohs and aahs will keep coming. his way. But away from that cocoon, I'm afraid reality sets in. I, too, happen to remember that once upon a time even the brightest of African American students weren't really quite in the door socially speaking. For instance, the Panhellenic Clinics were veritable battlefields and to rush a black or Jewish student, once upon a time, was to invite the wrath of the business communities who would fly in with threats of ex communication and eternal damnation. The only social option was International House for the "non white" student. I think Congressman Pete McCloskey, a Stanford man, addressed this lamentable issue. Then, too, I do remember that the entire Bay Area was none to hospitable to persons of color, even those as accomplished as Dr. Sowell. I do not lean towards radical social though. However, I do wonder from time to time whether the so-called and self anointed black conservative isn't really living an imitation of life in pretty the same manner a closeted gay person living as straight. Apologies, please. I am not a strident, left wing radical, merely someone who has paid attention to life's vagaries.
+Jay Young
I don't know if you should congratulate your stockbroker friend on his empath abilities or not considering he has to "feel" racism emanating from his associates but you are completely misunderstanding Thomas Sowell.
He has never said racism hasn't held black people back. He pointed out in this very video that despite facing overt discrimination, blacks had their largest period of economic growth from 1940 to 1960. The point was also made that the number of single parent households were significantly fewer during those times. Racism simply cannot account for all of the failing happening in the black community today.
OnlyTheSunCanFly I think I'll hold to my position. And may I ask you to do this. The next time you visit South Africa, you'll notice these same patterns resulting from conquest and loss of tradition. Listen, pre European, the family in African tradition was the centerpiece of life. You see, the family had meaning other than mere procreation. It was in other ways a form of "life insurance," if you will, for those reaching senior years and unable to care for themselves. I am disappointed in the good professor's quality of thinking in that rather than merely criticizing a situation we can all stipulate is a bad situation, he could've used that brain to explain this unfortunate syndrome away through cause and effect. There's almost nothing that cannot be examined and explained away through that very device, cause and effect. Yes, I stipulate that the broken family syndrome is a train wreck. But then the question becomes, why? Take this example, if you will. Compare life of black immigrants to the country to that of the lower rung of African American life. I said lower rung deliberately because that's where that unfortunate syndrome the good professor describes takes place. You do not find unwed mothers among black America's uppercrust. And, believe me, there's an uppercrust. For example, for uppercrust black Americans there are character building social organizations such as the Jack n Jill,plus the many professional organizations for character building, which apparently the good professor and white America are totally ignorant of. So, yes, we can stipulate this unfortunate and visible lower run social order in black America. But there's more to than broken families, unwanted pregnancies, and crime. Trust me!
Jay Young
Did you even watch the video? Sowell makes the claim in this video that the welfare state manged to do what years of slavery and generations of Jim Crow laws couldn't: Destroy the black family.
Also, no one is suggesting that there aren't black people who go out and do great things. I'd say Sowell is one of them. I fail to see what point it is you're trying to make. I suggest that you re-watch the video but this time pay a little more attention to what is being said.
OnlyTheSunCanFly I'll do you one better. I suggest you 1) get a better understanding of African American history from a much better source than your beloved Sowell. Professor Ira Berlin, University of Maryland, can help you immensely get a better grip on African American history. For your information, many African Americans were born in states where there was no such thing as welfare. You seem tethered to stereotypic thinking. Unfortunately, the good professor did nothing more than reinforce your stereotypes. There's more to black America than your beloved Sowell. Then after speaking with Dr. Berlin, you might try visiting Howard University there at Washington, D.C., to get more depth to your thinking. As it stands, you're quite entrenched in your "welfare" argument. I don't think I will be interested in hearing more from you since I think I have a much stronger grasp of African American history anyway.
What an intellectual discourse. Spent over 2 hours watching Dr Sowell's interviews upon finding out about him today. Need to read his books.
I watched this and I can not come to terms with or understand how anyone in America today thinks this is not just common sense...Thomas Sowell is a great man!
"Milton Friedman once said that if the government took over the Sahara Desert there would be a shortage of sand"
Robinson: "How do you know all this?"
Sowell: "Because of my research assistants."
Economist Thomas Sowell defending truth through primary sources, facts and research.
Thank you for your career's great work it is inspiring.
I could listen to this guy all day. Wisdom is so delicious.
The greatest gift that Thomas Sowell gives is teaching those who will listen not what to think, but how to think.
I can listen to thomas sowell for hours on end. Hes a master at simplifying complicated topics.
Thank you for this show!!! However, Dr. Thomas - I'm a BIG fan btw, I must inform you about our experience shopping for a car, for our son, about a month ago. Hubby and I were excited to find a brand new car at a local dealership, for a $10,000 discount. We weren't going to buy a new car for a novice driver of course, but hey, we couldn't pass up this wonderful deal! We met with the sales person, and were going to pay cash. When the financial person met with us, he asked if we had good credit, and wer told him wer both have EXCELLENT credit. He proceeded to tell us that wer couldn't get the large discount, because we have too good of a credit score... WHAT?!!! We were blown away by this, we were NEVER denied a good deal because of our credit - It's like being punished for being good, in fact the man treated us with disinterest, if we were black leftist, we would have thought we were being discriminated against...
My Hubby being business minded told me, more likely it's because they want low credit score people who would not pay off the loan prematurely, and they could make money off of them. We definitely didn't read the small print...
Cheers!!! 😊🌷
The interviewer is calm, polite and noncombative, and allows him to speak.
I'm always disappointed that these interviews with Dr Sowell have an end. Looking forward to the next one! Can't wait to read the book.
MORE SOWELL!!!
We need every drop of wisdom from this man.
Amazing, the work of Thomas Sowell should be taught in schools by mandatory.
He doesn’t even refer to notes yet has a wealth of statistics readily available.
It’s almost as if what he says sounds redundant. If you have read into almost anything he says you’d say to yourself no shit, this is observed fact.
“It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.”
-Thomas Sowell, one of the greatest Americans alive today.
I could listen to him talk all day. One of his books narrated by Tom would be awesome.
Thank you, Dr. Sowell. A true American hero and treasure!
Thomas Sowell must be one of the most fascinating people to have a conversation with.
safe spaces=more isolation from ideas
great point
not always. You only think about survival then
actually in the past only rich people who had much time did science
Inner G *
Most concise definition,speaks volumes in six words and an equals sign.
Do you know something? I could sit and listen to Peter Robinson and Thomas Sowell, discussing Tom's research, for hours.
Hmmm ... Come to think of it, I have .. Haha.
Aah, the feeling of excitement, upon finding an up to date, hot off the press interview, from The Hoover Institution, with these two. Priceless.
Gentlemen. I raise my glass to the both of you. Cheers.
What an incredible human being Thomas is. With today's issues from BLM, his perspectives of life as black or white are so important to listen too. Thank goodness we have a gentleman that looks at facts instead of emotions which seem to be out of control with the media fueling racial hate. As a 65 year old White gentleman I feel I have not contributed racism in this country and very very proud of that. Considering my father from the past was extremely racist against black folks, I should be racist but I never participated in his teachings of hatred.
"If the government took over the Sahara desert, their would be a shortage of sand" Is both the funniest and most honest quote I have ever heard
Chicago school economists are so phenomenal.
Each of them.
I feel lucky for being able to learn from a gentleman like Mr. Sowell!
Every, single, time I listen to Thomas Sowell, I feel more knowledgeable and educated. Thank you Hoover Institution and Thomas Sowell for your ongoing support of rational evidence based wisdom!
I can't get enough of this guy. What an amazing, amazing man.
"[...]the idea was wonderful, it's only the reality that did not cooperate[...]"
Hahhahaha love this man.
"You're seldom hiring a whole group" made me laugh so much.
Ah Dr. Sowell. Thank you both. Its been great seeing you two over the years in these interviews. Seems like you have a good friendship.
Dr Sowell. Slavery vs Welfare . I had a suspicion but now have reason for thesis.
Great to see Dr. Sowell is still in top form!
This guy is amazing.
Dr. Thomas Sowell's line about the cultural prerequisites for turning raw materiel into wealth should be shouted from the rooftops. People like to say the Indians were cheated out of Manhattan. However, Manhattan was swampy useless marshlands to the Indians. The European settles were the ones with a culture to turning such things into cities. Another example is Florida, It was mostly swamp lands filled with alligators and snakes and most tribes lived along the coast. Now look at Florida. What the European culture achieved is something that CAN be learnt. It is not white people's whiteness or asian people asianess that makes them great wealth creators but their culture. It can be learned as humans have been doing for thousands of years.
Dr.Sowell is changing my perspective on life, politics, and many other important themes which define life. You just can't argue or contradict the figures which he mentions. In short, he turns the entitlement generation on its head by making it clear that politicians don't "have your back," they could give a rats ass about you; all they care about is themselves and their political parties. Sowell makes it clear that the only way to get ahead in life is to get up and out and study and work as if you life depended on it, which it does. This man seems to have an effortless compunction to make conclusions which by and large help humanity take responsibility for its own actions.
John Mitchell it is basic intro level Logic and Statistics. No you can't argue the statistics but one can easily argue correlation vs causation! Seems that many are you here are impressed to easily or is it that Thomas's words ease your guilty conscience. Claude Anderson uses the exact same statistics as Thomas to present a totally opposite point of view. it's not hard at all!
Amazing conversation. And so civil! Like a breath of fresh air.
Can anyone listen to this man and not be amazed at his brilliance?!
One of the TOP 5 intellectuals of our time. Just WoW!
EFFORT is not distributed equally. Why should income be?
Only 12% of U.S. adults scored in the highest literacy proficiency levels, and only 9% scored in the highest numeracy levels.
While 52% of Americans score below the minimum literacy required for coping with the demands of everyday life and work in a complex, advanced society, and successful secondary school completion and college entry.
Gone are the days of a high school dropout getting a job at the car plant making $25.00 an hour tightening lugnuts.
People are not being left behind. They are falling behind. America is becoming an ever increasingly technologically driven society and people are failing to put forth the efforts to keep up.
"squalor of behavior." Exactly! :)
Peter Robinson is really underappreciated as a host. He does such an amazing job of giving his guests the floor, while still bringing out the heart of their ideas and opinions with his questions.
god we need more of people like thomas!!!
Dr. Thomas Sowell is brilliant! I am thankful to know who he is, and wish I had known about him many years ago.
I am working on purchasing every single one of Thomas Sowell books!
I can’t get enough of him ! I am learning so much ! Love this
I love this guy, the explanatory power of his ideas are totally penetrating and with wide scope. It's all fresh new ideas that give a broader understanding compared to contemporary "common sense" interpretations of reality.
If the govt. took charge of the Sahara dessert, there would be a shortage of sand.d
Another masterpiece by Dr. Sowell.
Dr Sowell is a flat out genius. What a bastion of wisdom & knowledge.
Ive always said if government would get out of the way our economy would be fine
Even the poorest people in this country have two big screen TV's, air-conditioning, at least one car, and on and on. It's a joke to even say we have a real poverty problem.
The immigrants from Asia, the West Indies, Nigeria, etc. see opportunity when they arrive on our shores and then work hard whether they obtain further education or not. They make sure that their children are educated. They are great in spelling, math and science. This topic is very interesting and Thomas Sowell is the perfect one to discuss it with.
I just want to spend time with Thomas and listen to him every single day for years. His knowledge and ability to turn that knowledge into what looks like common sense (that is very uncommon) is astonishing.
Dr. Sowell is too smart to be a politician.
He was a frequent guest on Buckley's Firing Line in the 80's
Just started this book and can't stop. Very helpful and full of wisdom and right thinking.
Every time I hear this man speak I feel like I'm receiving profound clarity and wisdom
If we could get Thomas Sowell and Victor Davis Hanson in a room, that would be a conversation that I would pay to hear.
Thanks for these awesome videos. I love Uncommon Knowledge.