A couple of corrections having just removed the leg off my 6 HP Evinrude. The 4 bolts are 3/8 AF not 10mm and the gear lever needs to be placed in reverse not forward,
Thank you for confirming I am not crazy! Just going through this right now and was not understanding how you get the gap without going into reverse. And yes 3/8!! Or you may strip them out
I have a 6hp engine year 1982, the part number of the impeller is 387576 and is discontinued, you could help me with the equivalent or similar part number, thanks
my 1969 9.5HP hit something hard in water, no oil leaking anywhere, but when I checked the gear oil, it was very milky white, could not find any cracks on lower unit or oil leaking from anywhere, and I had checked oil after every use and was very clean prior to hititng bottom, pretty sure it was an oyster bed. Any ideas how water got in? I did remove lower unit with these very helpful videos, but it was wet on top of impeller housing with what looked like oil, could water have entered thru the top area of impeller???
A seal could’ve flexed or you have place up top you can’t see that’s letting water in. I would suspect the clam shell foot to produce a leak the easiest. You may have to wait a while to see it leak
All the vids I've seen show the lower unit being relatively straightforward to remove, I've removed mine three times in the past week (first time to discover impeller wrong way round!) and each time it's been a bitch! It just wont drop low enough to get the pinch bolt undone unless I hit it with a hammer or get a tyre iron in the 1/4 inch gap and apply considerable pressure!! What is stopping it from dropping to get the gap wide enough to get a wrench or large screwdriver in?
Hi thanks for the video - I'd be lost without it! I need a replacement impeller, and ideally also casing, gasket and housing - for a 1965 Johnson outboard 6hp. Could you please tell me the part numbers? I'm having trouble finding any help here in Australia. Thankyou so much
@@thisoldoutboard thanks so much, great site but they don't ship to Australia unfortunately. I'll see if I can find a contact in the US to forward it. Thanks again :)
I just pulled my lower unit off and found that roll pin sheered off clean, and the impeller was completely destroyed. Don't know if one has anything to do with the other, but that's what I found. Question is what could have happened to the spring that the pin compresses? Anything? I'm working on a 67 6hp, and I've spent a bunch of money on already. I really don't want to get into taking the power head off.
Impellers get destroyed when they dry rot from not changing them every couple of years. As far as the spring goes, is this a saltwater motor? If could’ve corroded or just failed from being “rode hard and put it wet” How much do you have in the motor?
I dismantled my water pump everything looks primomy question now can my downpipe for the water pump. Plastic tube can that possibly be plugged? Need an answer ASAP thank you for the help
Hi i have a 1978 Evinrude 6hp 6804B... It starts great and idles well, but it seems not enough water is coming out of the telltail (pee hole)... I have tried a wire down the tube to see if a clog is just right there and not really anything . It feels more hot than i think it should after a min of running. What is your opinion if i may ask? Would a good seafoam flush help or am i SOL : (
Is there no water coming out or just a little water? Did you make sure the copper water tube seared into the impeller housing really well? Was the rubber grommet worn out?
Thanks for these videos. I used this 3 part series to replace the impeller on a 6hp Johnson. I have a question, not being familiar with these motors... When I first start it, should water come out the peehole right away, or does it have to warm up first? I saw your video on the thermostat, so it got me thinking about it. The guy I bought it from said it needed a new impeller, but the old one looked just fine to me.
It should come out of the pee hole within 5 seconds. Make sure, if you are running it in a barrel, you have the water level high enough for the impeller to pick up water
Hey mate,following your stuff,mate it's good. But I am having real difficulty removing the roll pin from the top of the drive shaft. Is there any way of knocking it out?
Very helpful man! Have a E6RCOB that I bought used. Recently serviced lower unit but heard grinding while underway on our first trip out. Shut it down to prevent anything further from damage. Pulled the drain and vacuum plugs. Very little fluid drained. It was dark colored but viscosity was more like water than a gear oil. Only 3 bolts on the gear case but it will not separate from the mid-section. Saw your recommendations on lubing the driveshaft. The shift lever is forward but will not move at all even after pulling on the start cord. I suspect there’s something binding inside the case. Any ideas?
thisoldoutboard, so far, no. I’ve got it soaking in PB to see if it will come free. There’s a small amount of play in it but barely enough to get a flathead in the gap.
The only thing I know to do I try and get lower piece of part number 19 off and remove the gears. www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1968&hp=6&model=6802A&manufacturer=Evinrude§ion=Gearcase+Group
How do you get the pin out of the middle of the pinion gear "OMC New OEM Recoil Pinion Gear, Outboard Motor, 0318447" it an 8.0 hp johnson motor model number of motor j8rcud. Thank you either way
When I removed the 4 bolts from the lower unit, it didn't drop far enough to even get a screw driver in the gap. I had it in forward gear like you said, but it was still only dropping a tad. I didn't want to force it either, any suggestions?
Try jiggliing the flywheel while lowering it. Sometimes the driveshaft can get seated too well in the power head. Make sure when you get it out you put a little grease on the end of the driveshaft when you reinstall it to alleviate this issue next time.
Try a hand impact screw driver - something like this amzn.to/2DbwDob Other than that, you could use “light” heat. The casing metal can be brittle so using heat would be a last ditch effort
Hey I just use standard 80/90 gear oil. Regarding how much, there is a “fill level port” in the mid section of the Lower Unit. Fill the Lower Unit using the port on the sketch until fluid come out the top “fill level port”. That’s how you know you are full.
Actually make sure you use Hydro oil that is specifically made for outboards , heavy weight gear oil that also has rust inhibitors to keep any water contamination from corroding any interior gears and the inside the casing , regular gear oil does not have same inhibitors
Hey Chasey. Is the overall condition of the outboard good? The reason I say that is if it hasn’t run in a while the driveshaft could’ve rusted to the crankshaft. If the Lower Unit will slide down enough to expose the driveshaft you may be able to turn the motor upside down and spray some PB blaster on the drive shaft and let it side down the shaft and work on the rust.
Chasey. Check this site out for exploded views of your year and hp www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php That should tell you where the water “pee hole” is and the assembly of your lower unit
@@thisoldoutboard hey pal I'm in a pickle here I dismantled my lower unit of my water pump for my 6 horse Johnson, everything looks intact and good, my question now Ken that black tubing coming down from upper unitcan this be plugged as the water is not coming from that upper front hole which tells me my water pump is working however motor runs but soon heats up! Thank you so much Rob Niagara falls
A couple of corrections having just removed the leg off my 6 HP Evinrude. The 4 bolts are 3/8 AF not 10mm and the gear lever needs to be placed in reverse not forward,
Thank you for confirming I am not crazy! Just going through this right now and was not understanding how you get the gap without going into reverse. And yes 3/8!! Or you may strip them out
OMG thank you so much you are the only one who has videos on this out board it help me a lot.
Thanks man I will be doing this next week and your videos are highly detailed and easy to understand. Appreciate it!
I have a 6hp engine year 1982, the part number of the impeller is 387576 and is discontinued, you could help me with the equivalent or similar part number, thanks
18-3091 is a Sierra part number for an equivalent 389576
my 1969 9.5HP hit something hard in water, no oil leaking anywhere, but when I checked the gear oil, it was very milky white, could not find any cracks on lower unit or oil leaking from anywhere, and I had checked oil after every use and was very clean prior to hititng bottom, pretty sure it was an oyster bed. Any ideas how water got in? I did remove lower unit with these very helpful videos, but it was wet on top of impeller housing with what looked like oil, could water have entered thru the top area of impeller???
A seal could’ve flexed or you have place up top you can’t see that’s letting water in. I would suspect the clam shell foot to produce a leak the easiest. You may have to wait a while to see it leak
How do you get the darn thing to tilt mine looks like it’s hitting the two ears that are on the slide
All the vids I've seen show the lower unit being relatively straightforward to remove, I've removed mine three times in the past week (first time to discover impeller wrong way round!) and each time it's been a bitch! It just wont drop low enough to get the pinch bolt undone unless I hit it with a hammer or get a tyre iron in the 1/4 inch gap and apply considerable pressure!! What is stopping it from dropping to get the gap wide enough to get a wrench or large screwdriver in?
Hi thanks for the video - I'd be lost without it! I need a replacement impeller, and ideally also casing, gasket and housing - for a 1965 Johnson outboard 6hp. Could you please tell me the part numbers? I'm having trouble finding any help here in Australia. Thankyou so much
www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1965&hp=6&model=CD-22&manufacturer=Johnson§ion=Gearcase+Group
@@thisoldoutboard thanks so much, great site but they don't ship to Australia unfortunately. I'll see if I can find a contact in the US to forward it. Thanks again :)
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Why didn't you show the removal of the bolt?
I just pulled my lower unit off and found that roll pin sheered off clean, and the impeller was completely destroyed. Don't know if one has anything to do with the other, but that's what I found. Question is what could have happened to the spring that the pin compresses? Anything? I'm working on a 67 6hp, and I've spent a bunch of money on already. I really don't want to get into taking the power head off.
Impellers get destroyed when they dry rot from not changing them every couple of years. As far as the spring goes, is this a saltwater motor? If could’ve corroded or just failed from being “rode hard and put it wet”
How much do you have in the motor?
Mine won’t open up enough for me to get the 10 mm or a screwdriver bite on it
I dismantled my water pump everything looks primomy question now can my downpipe for the water pump. Plastic tube can that possibly be plugged? Need an answer ASAP thank you for the help
Great video. Thanks
The bolts to access the oil seem stuck, any advice to loosen them?
Apply a little panther piss...that is PB buster
I need a water pump kit part number for a Johnson 6R69M. Thanks.
Impeller part number: 0434424
Hi i have a 1978 Evinrude 6hp 6804B... It starts great and idles well, but it seems not enough water is coming out of the telltail (pee hole)... I have tried a wire down the tube to see if a clog is just right there and not really anything . It feels more hot than i think it should after a min of running. What is your opinion if i may ask? Would a good seafoam flush help or am i SOL : (
Is there no water coming out or just a little water? Did you make sure the copper water tube seared into the impeller housing really well? Was the rubber grommet worn out?
What year is this motor. I have the same one and trying to find the correct stickers for restoration
Thanks for these videos. I used this 3 part series to replace the impeller on a 6hp Johnson. I have a question, not being familiar with these motors... When I first start it, should water come out the peehole right away, or does it have to warm up first? I saw your video on the thermostat, so it got me thinking about it. The guy I bought it from said it needed a new impeller, but the old one looked just fine to me.
It should come out of the pee hole within 5 seconds. Make sure, if you are running it in a barrel, you have the water level high enough for the impeller to pick up water
Hey mate,following your stuff,mate it's good. But I am having real difficulty removing the roll pin from the top of the drive shaft. Is there any way of knocking it out?
Yeah it can take some force
Very helpful man! Have a E6RCOB that I bought used. Recently serviced lower unit but heard grinding while underway on our first trip out. Shut it down to prevent anything further from damage. Pulled the drain and vacuum plugs. Very little fluid drained. It was dark colored but viscosity was more like water than a gear oil. Only 3 bolts on the gear case but it will not separate from the mid-section. Saw your recommendations on lubing the driveshaft. The shift lever is forward but will not move at all even after pulling on the start cord. I suspect there’s something binding inside the case. Any ideas?
Can you remove the lower unit?
thisoldoutboard, so far, no. I’ve got it soaking in PB to see if it will come free. There’s a small amount of play in it but barely enough to get a flathead in the gap.
The only thing I know to do I try and get lower piece of part number 19 off and remove the gears.
www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1968&hp=6&model=6802A&manufacturer=Evinrude§ion=Gearcase+Group
How do you get the pin out of the middle of the pinion gear "OMC New OEM Recoil Pinion Gear, Outboard Motor, 0318447" it an 8.0 hp johnson motor model number of motor j8rcud. Thank you either way
Hi! I have that precise model! Could I ask you if you have a manual to share? thanks a lot
This is a good one: Johnson/Evinrude Outboards 1973-89 Repair Manual www.amazon.com/dp/089330008X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.5nfDb3BG4X4H
Would this be the same as an ‘81 7.5 Evinrude
When I removed the 4 bolts from the lower unit, it didn't drop far enough to even get a screw driver in the gap. I had it in forward gear like you said, but it was still only dropping a tad. I didn't want to force it either, any suggestions?
Try jiggliing the flywheel while lowering it. Sometimes the driveshaft can get seated too well in the power head. Make sure when you get it out you put a little grease on the end of the driveshaft when you reinstall it to alleviate this issue next time.
What is the bolt on the other side of the lower drain plug?
jack meleady that’s the pivot pin for the shifter lever that moves the clutch dog to select forward neutral and reverse
how can i get the two drain screws out the wont budge big screwdriver no budge
Try a hand impact screw driver - something like this amzn.to/2DbwDob
Other than that, you could use “light” heat. The casing metal can be brittle so using heat would be a last ditch effort
Adjustable wrench should work for extra leverage
Does this same method apply to a 80s 6hp evinrude?
Yes
@@thisoldoutboard thank you sir. Appreciate the videos. Helps a lot.
I have a 1969 6 HP Evinrude. You talk about changing the oil. How much oil and what kind should I use?
Hey I just use standard 80/90 gear oil. Regarding how much, there is a “fill level port” in the mid section of the Lower Unit. Fill the Lower Unit using the port on the sketch until fluid come out the top “fill level port”. That’s how you know you are full.
Actually make sure you use Hydro oil that is specifically made for outboards , heavy weight gear oil that also has rust inhibitors to keep any water contamination from corroding any interior gears and the inside the casing , regular gear oil does not have same inhibitors
What's the parts # for that 3 blade prop? Mine has 2....
0386587
@@thisoldoutboard thanks
Will there be much of a difference than the 2 blade#
www.pyiinc.com/articles/2-3-and-4-blade-propellers-are-they-all-the-same
Why do you have All in the lower unit? All is a laundry detergent. I use oil in the lower unit.
I do not use laundry detergent in the Lower Unit....
rocket city motors you said drain the All.
Drain the oil.
When I tried to pull the lower unit out, it would never come out and wouldn’t let me twist it clockwise
Hey Chasey. Is the overall condition of the outboard good? The reason I say that is if it hasn’t run in a while the driveshaft could’ve rusted to the crankshaft. If the Lower Unit will slide down enough to expose the driveshaft you may be able to turn the motor upside down and spray some PB blaster on the drive shaft and let it side down the shaft and work on the rust.
rocket city motors thanks, I’ll try this right now. Any ideas if that doesn’t work. Also, where is the water discharge for the cooling system?
Chasey. Check this site out for exploded views of your year and hp www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php
That should tell you where the water “pee hole” is and the assembly of your lower unit
what model number is this
1979 Johnson 6R79E 6hp Outboard
There are NO 10 MM bolts on this, a 10 MM FITS on it
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Hello, I have a 1973 Johnson 6hp. Do you know if the 3 blade prop off an Evinrude 6hp of the same year will fit? Thanks.
Joseph P yes it should work
@@thisoldoutboard hey pal I'm in a pickle here I dismantled my lower unit of my water pump for my 6 horse Johnson, everything looks intact and good, my question now Ken that black tubing coming down from upper unitcan this be plugged as the water is not coming from that upper front hole which tells me my water pump is working however motor runs but soon heats up! Thank you so much Rob Niagara falls