Forgiveness is for you and not for them: it's nothing but a lie

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  • čas přidán 19. 01. 2024
  • tags: lies of forgiveness. forgiveness is for you not for them. unforgiveness is not for them. forgiveness is for the weak

Komentáře • 148

  • @yourstruly1984
    @yourstruly1984 Před 5 měsíci +35

    How can you forgive someone who isn't apologetic, remorseful or at best, isn't even sorry ?

    • @charlesmiller7958
      @charlesmiller7958 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Matthew 6:14
      😇🙏

    • @rubyjones9951
      @rubyjones9951 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Okay!? Right.

    • @AmaLoveGoddessTV
      @AmaLoveGoddessTV Před 4 měsíci +2

      Right. They don’t want your forgiveness

    • @NailonRoss
      @NailonRoss Před 3 měsíci

      Don't give useless scripture ​@@charlesmiller7958

    • @NailonRoss
      @NailonRoss Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@charlesmiller7958 please don't do it your scripture doesn't mean any

  • @deewoodz816
    @deewoodz816 Před 5 měsíci +20

    Tyler you need your own Masterclass. You have given me the strength to walk away from one sided friendships when I was at my weakest. I have no idea how I found your channel but I thank god I did. Thank you.

  • @Ck-pj3vu
    @Ck-pj3vu Před 5 měsíci +19

    Oh my because anytime I have ever forgiven someone it only benefits to people who hurt me. It allowed them to do the same things again.

    • @shaylanewlife
      @shaylanewlife Před 5 měsíci +1

      Exactly 💯

    • @splendidis7950
      @splendidis7950 Před 5 měsíci

      Yes and they put you in a cycle because they know you have a good heart

    • @AmaLoveGoddessTV
      @AmaLoveGoddessTV Před 4 měsíci

      Because they don’t care

    • @PouchMaster
      @PouchMaster Před 2 měsíci +1

      I think people have the wrong idea of forgiveness. Forgiving someone doesn't mean you like them, or that they're your friend. It certainly doesn't mean you want to be around the one who hurt you. It means you're letting go of something someone did to you long ago. It doesn't deserve a spot in your head. If someone is currently continually hurting you, then you have a rival, and you shouldn't even be around that guy or girl. Forgiveness only applies to things that happened long ago

  • @SP-sk2cf
    @SP-sk2cf Před 4 měsíci +2

    Yep. Forgiveness is for the one who did wrong, but they have to ask for it humbly with a changed heart first. Thank you Tyler ❤

  • @rubyjones9951
    @rubyjones9951 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I agree. God won't forgive you unless you ask him for forgiveness. Why is it any different for people? If you've done me wrong I don't forgive you for anything unless you ask for my forgiveness. 100% Agree.

  • @ameerahrashada4515
    @ameerahrashada4515 Před 5 měsíci +9

    This was a really good video on the lie that forgiveness is for you why should it be when I am not the one in the wrong Thank you for all you do

  • @SenoraLuna-jd4lt
    @SenoraLuna-jd4lt Před 5 měsíci +3

    Forgiving someone who hasn't asked for it, is like taking the whole responsibility for someone else's bad behavior and setting them free energetically, it is like paying the credit card debt of a financially irresponsible person

  • @yourstruly1984
    @yourstruly1984 Před 5 měsíci +12

    They- meaning those who think and believe like this, they say forgiveness is for you, in hopes that, you won't turn bitter, hateful and resentful from holding on to the transgression.
    They're saying forgiveness is for you, because, according to them, it'll free you from dwelling and holding on to the pain, hurt and disappointment associated with the transgression.
    I agree, that I don't want to be mad forever.... BUT.... forgiveness for me doesn't include reconciliation or reconnection either 🤷🏾‍♀️
    I'm not going to walk around angry, mad & bitter over something I can't change.. it happened.. were done ✔ 😌 and I'm moving forward!!!

    • @LittleKitty22
      @LittleKitty22 Před 5 měsíci +4

      It's usually bitter and weak people who say such things - and you have the right to be mad about the evil actions of someone who targets you not by mistake but intentionally! To be mad about that is nothing but crying out for justice!

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +6

      Yup, they say Forgiveness is for you because of that logic of what you spoke, which is a lie. Forgiveness is always for the other person or for them, which the folks who is following the doctirne of forgiveness can't see that due to indoctrination. Healing is for you if you have been done wrong, but not Forgiveness. Forgiveness isn't the same thing as healing.

    • @yourstruly1984
      @yourstruly1984 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TylerJTI yes, I agree !!

    • @miketesla8550
      @miketesla8550 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TylerJTI "Healing is for you if you have been done wrong, but not Forgiveness. Forgiveness isn't the same thing as healing." This.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +4

      Miketesla8550 it seems that you like to hide your face, and yes I did see your other comment . Since you are mad because I am exposing that fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness that in the religion of Christianity, which is not biblical Forgiveness, I am going to expose more of it. Don't worry, I have a future video coming to expose that lie from the doctrine of forgiveness which is states forgiveness and healing are the same. Forgiveness and healing are not the same. Stay mad because that false doctrine of forgiveness in the Christianity is going to continue to be exposed

  • @pattayaesl7128
    @pattayaesl7128 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Hit it Tyler! You are the man. My real therapist. Thanks again and again

  • @queenmosessoul
    @queenmosessoul Před 5 měsíci +7

    I have said for “years” that I do NOT believe in forgiveness… I mean no one can actually provide evidence of “forgiveness”. What do “forgiveness” look like and why is “forgiveness” also hard to achieve according to people who believe in “forgiveness”. 99% of people will tell you they have a hard time forgiving, they working on forgiveness and forgiveness takes time. Anything this hard to achieve isn’t achievable. Forgiveness is “scam” and I don’t believe in it. And the people who have done me wrong are going to have to stand on their actions because I’ll NEVER “forgive” them. They are going to have to live with the fact they did me wrong forever. Because I don’t believe “forgiveness” is real….

  • @kekelove6784
    @kekelove6784 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you Tyler,❤
    That's why many of us can't find peace, out here forgiving ppl who we have not been offended. Blaming ourselves for nothing we've done. Another verse that's not clear. Is it for both the offended or the offender.
    Matthew 5:23-24
    Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you,
    You must leave your gift there in front of God's altar. First you must go and find your brother. Tell him that you are sorry. Then you can both become friends with each other again. After that, you can return to the altar and give your gift to God.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 4 měsíci +1

      That verse is on the jurisdiction of the offender( trangessor)

  • @AwakenedOnes
    @AwakenedOnes Před 5 měsíci +4

    Excellent information as always my brother thank you so much

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +1

      You are so welcome my brother

  • @jamesbreeden9016
    @jamesbreeden9016 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Absolutely Tyler! Your mastery of this deception is without peer. You are a wise Man with a truly good heart. Great video! Wishing you always happiness and joy.

  • @thepamperedgoddess3279
    @thepamperedgoddess3279 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Whoo hoo a new video from one of my favorite CZcamsrs! 🙌🏾

  • @jeremyrodriguez5298
    @jeremyrodriguez5298 Před 5 měsíci +17

    ONLY GOD CAN HELP YOU FORGIVE YOUR ENEMIES. WHEN YOUR ENEMIES ATTACK YOU, IT'S BECAUSE THEIR MISERABLE AND THEIR MISERABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PEACE. WHEN YOU TALK WITH GOD, HE WILL GIVE YOU PEACE, WHEN PUT HIM 1ST. GOD BLESS YOU TYLER. DON'T LET YOUR ENEMIES GET TO YOU TYLER, THEY ARE ALREADY DESTROYED. ONLY GOD CAN HELP YOU, MAN CANNOT. I CAN'T EVEN HELP OR SAVE MYSELF. NONE OF US CAN HELP EACH OTHER, THE WAY GOD CAN. ONLY WEAK MINDED INDIVIDUALS, DON'T FORGIVE.

    • @bernetajohnson3296
      @bernetajohnson3296 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Forgiveness is a choice. Not an obligation.

    • @pauobunyon9791
      @pauobunyon9791 Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@@bernetajohnson3296I agree with you about forgiveness being a choice. Because peace is a choice too.

    • @charlesmiller7958
      @charlesmiller7958 Před 5 měsíci

      According to Matthew 6:14
      Happy New Year🎉

    • @charlesmiller7958
      @charlesmiller7958 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@bernetajohnson3296Yes it is for true followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. Checkout Matthew 6:14
      Happy New Year.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      Charlesmiller if you was a true follower of the messiah. You would did like he said to in Luke 17:3 and Matthew 18:15-18, this is on the status of the person who was wronged and trespassed against. You dont nowhere where Jesus when someone trangressed or trespassed against he said then you forgive. He told you to rebuke, only until he repents then you stated luke 17:3, then in Matthew 18 chapter 15 -18 he told you 3 levels of binding the trespassor when he does not listen. Yes Jesus does state if he listens, thou hast gained your brother.
      Even in that scripture in Matthew 18:15-18 chapter if someone trespassed against you, Jesus didn't say forgive then right there
      From the false doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity based on what you and all other Christians have been told that this scripture in Matthew 6:12-14 that is on the status of the person who was wronged and is innocent, and this is your proof text that is the scripture when someone trepasses against you, then you forgive or have to forgive it: even if the trespassor doesn't make no amends, repents, restore, nor make things. This would extremely contradict what Jesus teachings of his regulation and command concerning forgiveness in Luke 17:3 and Matthew 18:15-18, Luke 15: 11-32 and also a bonus one stated in Matthew 18: 23-35. Jesus teaching was about trespassor repenting( asking for forgiveness), making amends ( asking for forgiveness), or making things right to the person who they wronged, which is biblical Forgiveness.
      Also in Matthew 21:12-13 verse, this is would have made Jesus a lie and contradicted his actions when he didn't forgive the moneychangers for making his house a den of their thieves, which was supposed to be a house of prayer.the moneychangers where doing some stealing and thievery right 🤔? What does the ten commandments say thou shall not steal? Jesus rebuked and casted them out nowhere he did not forgive them: why is that is because they didn't repent. By his actions with the moneychangers,The messiah was doing what he had commanded and regulated.

  • @susanmine
    @susanmine Před 5 měsíci +1

    So excited to see a new video from you.. God bless you

  • @obi-one-shinobistansolo3646
    @obi-one-shinobistansolo3646 Před 5 měsíci +2

    PASTOR TY

  • @scorpioqueen7728
    @scorpioqueen7728 Před 5 měsíci +1

    🗣️💥💥Preach Pastor 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🥺

  • @Thecelestial1
    @Thecelestial1 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Brother I don't understand it. You say right in the video Matthew 6 where Jesus teaches us to pray. If you aren't a Christian, ok but it literally tells Christians to forgive there and then a few verses later that If we forgive God will forgive us, but if we don't forgive others God will not forgive our sins.
    It cannot be more clear. It is this way because Christians don't or shouldn't operate the world does, that is to say in unforgiveness. It is hard to see and do the will of God when you are so bitter and upset about something that happened in the past.
    With love. Peace.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +1

      In Matthew 6 chapter who was that speaking ? It's especially not what the Christian world has been lying about for years like what you just said all because of what has been told to you . Go reread it again.

  • @pauobunyon9791
    @pauobunyon9791 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Brother Tyler you are one of the realest You tubers out here I really enjoy and vibe with your vids. I think you should get Pastoral training too. You definitely got the calling in you

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +1

      As of pastoral, not that. I do have a calling to teach people about true biblical forgiveness. Forgiveness from the Bible is not the way we have been told( the religion of Christianity way) is a huge fraud.

  • @peonyflowers23
    @peonyflowers23 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for saying this. I have struggled with this fake message for a very long time. Glad to know I’m not wrong.

  • @splendidis7950
    @splendidis7950 Před 5 měsíci

    Big Amen❤trueee,true, true,twisting the word

  • @officialbaddie9554
    @officialbaddie9554 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love all my new friends u always speak truth thank you TBMFT 😮😮😅😅

  • @kardrek2461
    @kardrek2461 Před 3 měsíci

    YOU ARE RIGHT
    RAISED JEW I FEEL THE SAME WAY
    THX

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you so much. I would like to invite you to come look at my archives exposing the doctrine of forgiveness, which you shall enjoy them

  • @israelfreenation3469
    @israelfreenation3469 Před 5 měsíci

    Good teaching my brother. You always come with the truth no holds barred.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I appreciate that. I have more in my archives named the forgiveness deception

    • @israelfreenation3469
      @israelfreenation3469 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TylerJTI Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to watch them right now. Peace Tyler you are greatly appreciated.

  • @KcLove-ut8zn
    @KcLove-ut8zn Před 5 měsíci +2

    I agree with you tell it like it is

  • @Dalija1979
    @Dalija1979 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Facts..... 💯.....!!!

  • @lyricz4224
    @lyricz4224 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Do a video about people who always compete with you and why they do it. Even though you have no intention of competing with them and are just trying to be better than you were yesterday

  • @hadiza1
    @hadiza1 Před 5 měsíci

    Preach! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥

  • @dartsiwinellis1976
    @dartsiwinellis1976 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I'd rather just walk away. They can ponder over why they think they should be forgiven.🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @TheWordOfTheStreet
    @TheWordOfTheStreet Před 5 měsíci

    preach!

  • @sarah.j.777
    @sarah.j.777 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I always say that.. usually the biggest sinners are the biggest promoters of "you have to forgive.."
    and YES there is a difference between sins, that's another thing. don't tell me the sins of child pervs are the same as someone who lied on their taxes.
    also I don't forgive unrepentant scumbags, I let them live in the ugly they created all day every day. and I do just fine living in the purity of the truth 😊

    • @LittleKitty22
      @LittleKitty22 Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly. I wouldn't consider lying on one's taxes a "sin" anyway, lol... the government wastes all our tax money on evil purposes so it's actually an act of righteousness to lie on one's taxes.

  • @VitaminB12-xz6kz
    @VitaminB12-xz6kz Před 5 měsíci

    Hi Tyler
    It's unbelievable how much you have improved my life and probably even saved it in some ways
    I moved out and broke off contact completely
    With my so called family members
    Since then I've had a much better life, although I'm currently alone but that's okay. Sooner or later I'll find people who are positive and suit me
    thank you Tyler you have saved my life

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you so much. Peace and blessings to you

  • @duncanmurphy9762
    @duncanmurphy9762 Před 5 měsíci

    Yo tyler i hope you are good and keeping strong, no disrespect for not being on that message app on zoom or whatever it is called as my old phone broke a while ago but wish you the strongest blessings and good hopes soldier

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      Hey Duncan. How are you? I have what's app now. If you have it: you can find me on there. Also I have a whole list of exposing this doctrine of forgiveness in my archives.

    • @duncanmurphy9762
      @duncanmurphy9762 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TylerJTI i tried replying but it just deleted my reply

  • @AMiah-jz8uu
    @AMiah-jz8uu Před 5 měsíci

    Uncle Tyler back with a reality check

  • @luxeriousnsociable
    @luxeriousnsociable Před 5 měsíci

    When im just talking and asking them questions, they just sit there or stand there and look at me and not asking me questions back and saying anything. I have to do all the calling, texting and planning and they just sit around at home not doing nothing all day pretending to be busy so they can easily avoid communications with me and ignore me. SO STUPID!!!!!! I wished my former stepbrother didn't read my journal and didn't tell everyone what I said in my journal back in high school.
    Dad and my former stepbrother reading my journal and telling everyone what I said in my journal is the reason why I dont talk to them and that's the reason why I moved away from them and I'm pretending to be busy to easily avoid communications with them and ignore them.

  • @Maester0
    @Maester0 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I believe forgiveness shouldn't be given for free. Just like trust, someone should earn the right to be forgiven. It's not about holding grudges, it's about if you do me wrong and show no remorse or compassion, then why should I forgive you?

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes you are right forgiveness shouldn't be for free. When researching the doctrine of forgiveness, the whole thing is a fraud: it's not biblical forgiveness. Since you spoke about grudges: i want to tell that word is not what we have been told when one does thier during research on that word, but it's another word nobody has not heard of before. This is how deep this scam of the doctrine of forgiveness goes.

  • @luxeriousnsociable
    @luxeriousnsociable Před 5 měsíci

    Everytime I leave apologetic messages to fake friends (mostly asian), they dont even read it and say nothing. I guess they don't seem to care about it.

  • @Spurs9876
    @Spurs9876 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Has anyone been targeted by the narcissist and he’s mother???
    Tyler I love your videos ❤️🇬🇧

  • @Donasands
    @Donasands Před 5 měsíci

    hey Tyler i enjoy your video's. Thanks for taking the time to make them.I understand your reasons, but why does the bible say that we must love our enemies.,To bless them that curse us , etc. In order for me to love my enemies, I have to forgive them for the wrongs they have done to me. If I don't, I won't be able to love them. What are your thoughts?

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      Good question! I have been extremely quiet that one because if I do reveal the truth, there are going to be a lot of mad Christians. I can do a video on it. I rather answer your question by email. If you like, you can email me at tjlwriter32@gmail.com: if you want my answer to your question

  • @SenoraLuna-jd4lt
    @SenoraLuna-jd4lt Před 5 měsíci

    OMG finally someone that thinks like me!

  • @jacobcannon1493
    @jacobcannon1493 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have never been completely comfortable with people that seem to imagine humans can forgive them like only God can. God may remember your sin no more but I may not be able to achieve that divine act. I have also seen people judge how well you are forgiving them and even judge my forgiveness as a failure. I will never be able to lift their shame, they need a savior. My calling is to glorify my maker as best I can and to love his people. I will fail at that every day and I need a savior to cover me. But don't confuse my struggles with your expectations of feeling guilt free.

    • @HarryHeath-pb6rv
      @HarryHeath-pb6rv Před 5 měsíci

      They know the garbage they try to feed ya And I can't or won't go for that no can do woe woe woe

  • @DailyPositiveAffirmatives
    @DailyPositiveAffirmatives Před 5 měsíci +1

    🎉

  • @jostynmontano9997
    @jostynmontano9997 Před 4 měsíci

    Forgiveness is for yourself not for them bc they hurt u or something u in order to not let the anger take over or whatever emotion u feel u forgive them in your mind and heart doesn’t mean u have to be cool with the person or talk to them but u forgive bc everyone makes mistakes everyone is imperfect if they talk to u u can ignore them if u don’t wanna speak to them bc at the same time u have to respect yourself is like if u love a person but they bad for u u don’t stay with them u love them from a distance

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 4 měsíci

      Your statement is much too weak because you're going by what you have been told by society, which is a biggest lie .
      Like I said, the forgiveness is for you can't work, unless it's under the jurisdiction of the transgressor or the person who did the wrong. One has a right to be angry and to let them take it over them so that it can be used as fuel or in the right way, which is resentment. Yes resentment is not what has been told in society l.
      When its out of the jurisdiction of anger, it's wrath. Eventhough in the etmology, it saids anger, but tells you to see wroth. Wroth is anger, here is difference anger in regards doing evil by your actions. Get it right about anger and wrath. Why do you think the bible said in the book of ephesians be ye angry but sin not. One sins out of wrath not anger.
      When its wrath, this is you want to do steal, kill, or destroy them in a wrong ful manner to the person who wronged you.
      Then you say, you forgive because they make mistakes: the problem with that based on the fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness is that they hate for the person who did the mistake to take responsibility for mistake or wrong doing, which is to make things right, make amends , and asking the person who they done wrong for forgiveness, which is taking responsibility for thier mistake or wrongdoing.
      By what you been told by your fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness, you expect for someone to forgive the person who did the mistake without taking responsibility for thier mistake or wrongdoing. That's not right.
      You say if they want to talk to you and ingore them contradicts the forgiveness thing.

  • @anthonybrown7650
    @anthonybrown7650 Před 5 měsíci +1

    One thing you can't do is allow yourself to be bitter towards that person who has done you wrong. You must understand what your fighting against, which is the devil and not flesh and blood. And yes just as Jesus does you must still love them

    • @donalddavis6689
      @donalddavis6689 Před 5 měsíci

      I'll Forgive Them!! But!! After I Forgive Them, That Hurt Me In The Past, Or Yesterday!! Even Today!! I'll Call Them Out!! In A Nice Way Without Getting Mad 😡!! Pray 🙏 🙏 In My Mind For My Enemy And Keep It Moving.

    • @anthonybrown7650
      @anthonybrown7650 Před 5 měsíci

      @@donalddavis6689 I understand but this is why we must seek the Lord to help us. And we must as believers have consecrated time daily until the Lord for at least a hour and that's me holding back

  • @mirouu13
    @mirouu13 Před 5 měsíci

    So the people who have done wrong to us, they need to suffer about forgiveness. Not us? Did i understate rightly?

  • @jaymitaylor9937
    @jaymitaylor9937 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Can anyone give advice today I’m supposed to be confronting an issue with my toxic sister over the phone . She’s been spreading lies on me and my mom and I have been quiet for so long , she also smokes and acts as if nothing ever happened when ever she sees us and smiles like she’s not doing anything wrong . She’s the type of person that never apologizes and always justifies her behavior . I’m talking about the situation with her today as a way to express myself and to say what I have to say .

    • @jeremyrodriguez5298
      @jeremyrodriguez5298 Před 5 měsíci +1

      LEAVE IT TO GOD, AND MOVE ON.

    • @jaymitaylor9937
      @jaymitaylor9937 Před 5 měsíci

      @@jeremyrodriguez5298 I think it
      Is healthy to have conversations instead of just not communicating the way you feel everyone’s different .

    • @jeremyrodriguez5298
      @jeremyrodriguez5298 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@jaymitaylor9937 Conversations with God is the best.

    • @QuietlySoulful359
      @QuietlySoulful359 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I would suggest that if you wish to express your feelings, do so BUT do this after you read Psalm 91 for spiritual protection. Be aware that In telling her how you feel, the reaction may not be what you hope for, so do it for your own healing. Actions speak louder than words, so it may be she says all the right things but look at the actions afterwards over a period of time, as it seems she needs a lot of therapy. Boundaries is not being unforgiving, it's protection of oneself. God Bless and good luck!

    • @jaymitaylor9937
      @jaymitaylor9937 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@QuietlySoulful359 thank you so much 💕💕after reading this I am reconsidering ! This makes so much sense to me !

  • @richmuscle8316
    @richmuscle8316 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Facts!!!!

  • @shaylanewlife
    @shaylanewlife Před 5 měsíci +1

    That's why i stop going by that scripture.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +1

      You mean Matthew 6: 12-16 , talking about the Lord's prayer🤔 that the Christian world like to run to and gaslight folks saying that you have to forgive.?

  • @shiamaxwell3482
    @shiamaxwell3482 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I don’t see the debate. Just as you said Tyler forgiveness is for them not you .

  • @tristan583
    @tristan583 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You wouldn’t believe how many time the Christian God himself revenged and put people away for good in the holy scriptures , it means justice is a must and only after that forgiveness is naturally accepted but when you just let evil continue and claim you forgave him knowing you’re still hurt that’s not healthy

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      Yup that's correct. There was a time God don't not forgive states in I Samuel 15th chapter

  • @Daniel71508
    @Daniel71508 Před 5 měsíci

    Even god requires us to repent...before he forgives us 😂 until someone askes you don't

  • @LittleKitty22
    @LittleKitty22 Před 5 měsíci

    It's one thing forgiving genuine mistakes especially when the person is truly sorry - but we are talking her about narcissists, ie creatures from hell that take pleasure in destroying the innocent, the defenseless, the unaware!
    Why would we forgive, or pray for, the devil???
    I hear this all the time from weak people: oh we must forgive them bla bla bla... and then they wonder why they continue to get destroyed by their abusers and why they continue to suffer from the actions of the narcissist even if they have been no contact for a long time. They then usually end up throwing all their money into the greedy throat of some "therapist" or other and wonder why after years of this fake "treatment" they are no better...
    It doesn't work like that, folks. You can only achieve balance and order if you introduce a force that is equal to the destructive force that did the destructive act. The Law of Ma'at is not a fairytale.
    Christianity is a destortion of reality, not reality - which explains why its followers are weaklings that fall for anything and everything and are often exploited by fake preachers and ministers.
    With this, when comparing how Christianity started - with Jesus preaching and having followers - and how modern day cults start, I don't see the slightest bit of difference...

  • @wondrlush
    @wondrlush Před 5 měsíci

    Say you supposed to figure your parents other people who continuously treat you not right they say supposed to overlook thier actions but reality is that they don’t deserve because they have a agenda to hurt you but people say don’t want parents get older you have unforgiveness in your heart but don’t look at the fact why if they love you treat you way they do and how can you forgive someone you know has and no accident try to hurt you something nots right but they say god want you to forgive and of don’t you go to hell for your sins but if that case we should just let people mistreat not do or say a thing about it that’s not healthy for us to put up with thier ways I just think people make excuses for thier actions

  • @BinkonBal4
    @BinkonBal4 Před 5 měsíci +2

    🧀

  • @MrBillybathgate5
    @MrBillybathgate5 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Tyler

  • @fj2201
    @fj2201 Před 5 měsíci

    I have a bigger challenge... find where the Bible even defines forgiveness.

  • @KrispyKrunchee
    @KrispyKrunchee Před 5 měsíci

    I enjoy your videos and I'm a believer in and a follower of Christ...and I have to say that the interpretation you are responding to is new to me. Too many Christians follow what they've been told about the word and they do not think and pray on what they believe therefore opening themselves up to abuse. "Forgiveness is for you" means that the fruit of the action will benefit you and not the one being forgiven.
    Forgiveness is not exempting the perpetrators from the consequences of their actions, it affords you, the victim, the peace of mind and spirit, without defiling yourself by punishing another, that you deserve as per your position in the matter. Relinquishing the duty of delivering the rightful punishment to the wrong and justice to the innocent into Gods hands means that you reman in right standing with Him and your intercourse with Him remains uninterrupted. As someone who grew up in church, I have seen how many have been abused through the purposeful misinterpretation of scripture and advice that all those who seek God do so of their own responsibility and stop running to the pastors who push this nonsense. It must also be noted though, that in the case of God forgiving us, it is to our benefit too and not just His own peace, as in with us. And that I won't go into now because if you believe in the Sovereignty and Majesty of who God really is then you'll understand how everything He does ultimately is for our own beneficence.
    Edit:
    Also, no ones going to show you that they are suffering the consequences of hurting you so leaving it in Gods hands frees you from the headache of trying to keep score so you can move on with your Life. Forgiving is not about the other person, you don't deserve to be hurt and then to have to constantly relive that trauma and stress in your own head cuz it won't go away. When we forgive, God takes away the sharp edge of pain and helps the mind to be cleared so you can be free to live away from that pain.

    • @JustAnotherYoutuber613
      @JustAnotherYoutuber613 Před měsícem

      I agree with all that you said. This is exactly how I understand it. Forgiveness is for your sake and not the other. Still forgiving and letting go is no easy feat, you have to choose to do it consciously.

  • @theartoflivingoutloud888
    @theartoflivingoutloud888 Před 2 měsíci

    People use forgiveness for gaslighting folks.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly, you are so right those people know they're not right for doing this.

  • @marcarc135
    @marcarc135 Před 5 měsíci

    Matthew 6:14-16
    21st Century King James Version
    14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
    15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    16 “Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance. For they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward.
    Read the Bible and lean not on your own understanding! Salvation is God made! Religion is man made! Build a relationship with Jesus Christ seek Him on your own not through man.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      I have noticing been a good bit folks in the comment section immediately running to that scripture Matthew 6:14-16 as their so called proof texts to justify when someone trespass against you then you forgive
      even if transgressor dont make amends nor make things right, not restore, nor repent. One still have to forgive no matter what.
      Since all of you christians love running to it, I am going to do video concerning that scripture Matthew 6:12-14: to go another route so that more people can see that the doctrine of forgiveness in religion of Christianity is a fraud. .

    • @anthonybrown7650
      @anthonybrown7650 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@TylerJTI Love you sir. But the truth is you haven't truly found Christ and His love that's why you can't see clearly. I pray you one day truly get to know Him

  • @Mike_Cosentino
    @Mike_Cosentino Před 5 měsíci +1

    No such thing as forgiveness when there is no repentance from the other person.
    How in the world are you supposed to forgive and forget about something or someone when you NEED that experience to spot the next narcissist who comes along spewing their so-called Christian agenda? Bout time to review the book’s couple more times.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Preach it. Preach it.👍👍👍👍

  • @idcbumyb
    @idcbumyb Před 5 měsíci

    Sounds like whoever is pushing this sxam doesnt want forgiveness they just want to delude the people

  • @bartsimpson5772
    @bartsimpson5772 Před 5 měsíci

    No sound

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +6

      Retap the video again. You shall have sound

  • @AMiah-jz8uu
    @AMiah-jz8uu Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think u misunderstanding forgiveness being for you. Forgiveness to rest your own soul. I dont say it from a christian POV tho

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      If you listened to the video I broke it down how forgiveness is for you can only work.The world and the Christian world is both against that way that it can work because it is biblical Forgiveness. Based on what we have been told forgiveness is for you, I said can't work and said why: the whole concept of what has been told to us is a big lie.

  • @SenoraLuna-jd4lt
    @SenoraLuna-jd4lt Před 5 měsíci

    Also, the christian god won't forgive you unless you repent, ask for forgiveness, and dedicate your entire life to him, or else that God won't forgive you, so they are expecting people to be better than their god? Aren't you supposed to follow god's example? 😂

  • @charlesmiller7958
    @charlesmiller7958 Před 5 měsíci

    Matthew 6:14
    We following God Almighty must forgive as the Lord has forgiven, and it clearly states that if you don't forgive as the Lord has forgiven. He will not forgive you of your sins.
    Happy New Year.🎉
    Note: Also checkout Matthew 6:15. Be blessed Tyler😊

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci

      That scripture not a proof text of what I said when someone trespass against you: then you forgive or have to forgive it. Time after time again, its the same scripture that they like to run immediately, not reading closely of what Jesus stated. That scripture is easy to dissect by me.

    • @charlesmiller7958
      @charlesmiller7958 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@TylerJTI
      Keeping you in prayer my brother😊

  • @MrBillybathgate5
    @MrBillybathgate5 Před 5 měsíci

    Pastor p-diddy party , and reverend cash app don’t give a damn about no doctrine

  • @thepamperedgoddess3279
    @thepamperedgoddess3279 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Forgiveness is definitely for the transgressor lol that’s the only thing it’s for

  • @jeremyrodriguez5298
    @jeremyrodriguez5298 Před 5 měsíci +4

    THE HOLY KJV BIBLE, IS THE BEST BOOK TO GET WISDOM FROM. TRUST GOD NOT MAN.

  • @christinavmills
    @christinavmills Před 5 měsíci

    Yikes. The Bible is pretty clear about this as others have shared. Your energy says a lot about why we indeed need to forgive for our own inner peace, which you do not appear to have. ✌🏽🫶🏽

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 5 měsíci +3

      You are a triggered and angry woman and chose to be indoctrinated because of what you have been told.
      You don't like your fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness in the religion to be challenged nor exposed. I am going to ask you where is the scripture when someone trepasses against you: you forgive it or have to forgive. You can't produce it. Where is it then?
      Only main so called text you got and that y'all like to run is to Matthew 6: 10-16, which has nothing to do with the status of the person who was done wrong. You can't read what Jesus said because you're busy going by what as others have shared, which is being indoctrinated of what has been told to you.
      It's clear you didn't listen to the whole video. Besides how I know you didn't listen to whole video, I did use Bible scriptures.
      Once again,you just said the Bible is pretty clear of what others have shared. That's your problem right there because you said ( others have shared): you're going by what you have been told and chose to be indoctrinated rather using critical thinking of what they have shared and have been telling you That statement of what you spoke tells me a lot you don't use critical thinking but chose to be indoctrinated.

    • @miketesla8550
      @miketesla8550 Před 5 měsíci

      Enjoy being at "peace" with the devil. We're at war. And if you're not angry with the devil, you're just lukewarm and God will vomit you out of his mouth.