Surprisingly Easy Way to Cast Aluminum
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
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Forget building a forge, foundry, flux capacitor, all you really need to melt aluminum is a propane/propylene torch.
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0:25 *Instant Gloves!!! Magical!!*
Magical!
Well shit, I'm running out of reasons not to cast something.
+Belias Phyre awesome comment
+Belias Phyre me too.
+Belias Phyre I know.... what to make... what to make.... (I did start savings cans just for this after watching another YT'ers video but still haven't a clue what to make that'd actually be useful) A mallet would probably be the perfect first try.
If the handle fails to come out perfect it can be covered in dip-it or a friction tape. Also oversize and use the handle as a spout. Be good to taper the neck wide into the mallet so it wouldn't break easily.
I was trying to think of something for a bike but most of it is already made and reasonably available. They even make pedals that make their own power and light LEDs inside them! (great idea because they're basically fairly theftproof)
Plus I don't have a lathe to finish the project so it'd have to be something either crude is easily handle finishable.
Would it make a decent handle for a camping handaxe? One could impregnate their name or logo/motto on the side. That'd be cool.
BikingMNViking
If this is your first time casting, you may want to try something smaller, especially if your using this process. I was thinking some simple jewelry or trinkets just to see what kind of detail and finish I could get. A mallet is a bit ambitious for a piddly little torch like this.
I have several furnace burners (and probably a few stove ones) I have saved and orfices from stoves I've installed if I wanted to convert them to propane. Biggest thing I think I would want to do is fence my yard in first to keep lookie-lous minding their own business.
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Hahahahahahaha he saw opportunity !! Brought back memories from back in the 90s (DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO GIRLS LIKE US)?.. popping out of nowhere while watching Bob Ross.. Lol
I enjoyed this a lot. I worked in an aluminum foundry for 9 years before my current job. We did permanent mold, but its amazing what you can use in a pinch. If we needed to make something ourselves we would make a mold out of wood, take a die grinder to some tool steel, or anything. It doesn't take long for solicitation so you can get away with a lot. Its especially handy to get a basic shape that you can finish out the detail with a mill or lathe. Keep up the good work.
With this process and enough empty pop/ beer cans, I can build myself a new Ford!
You'll just need about $20,000 worth of propane.
But yeah! Get on it and go...
Nope. Aluminum don't rust. A good Ford will be rusty as hell.
Yeah it may take you 20 years to pour enough though this guys set up isn’t very viable
Aluminum Heads/hood/body paneling took around 700 lbs off the f150. That's fuel economy/towing cap/hauling cap/easier on the brakes with no load.... No argument Ford made the right call, that's why they're on top
@@richardgood8691 except they have some bad business practices and use c channel frames becuase it's cheaper
That power cord to the bottom right is a champ .
+AvE
As silly as it sounds, your channel and your sense of humor got me through some hard times, and for that I thank you.
Alright, damn, I feel like a caveman who just saw a car. There are like a dozen things you just did that are drastic improvements over what the hell Ive been doing for the last 2 years or so, like: using an actual cruicible instead of a bent piece of scrap metal and vice grips, using something to poke the oxide layer off, instead of just jiggling everything about until either the bags of aluminum pop and join together, or I spill a bit on my foot again, using magic sand instead of wood, and casting parts instead of just casting puck-ike discs and turning those into parts later.
Thanks AvE, this looks like possibly the best solution for doing small casts of anthills !
My Sister, niece, and two nephews are visiting this summer and I thought they'd be blown away by casting some anthills.
I live in Minnesota, so our anthills don't run very deep ( I hope ). I wouldn't need much more than maybe double the amount
which you melted, But I'm sure a slightly larger crucible is available.
Thanks again for the cool vid ( and the witty and entertaining renaming of popular sales outlets ).
This is definitely the simplest and easiest method to melt smaller amounts of metal, not to mention portability, which for
casting anthills I would imagine would be highly convenient !
I haven't seen gouging rods since college welding classes. Good video, Thanks!
Dear Mr Ave,
That is quite a good idea. I would like to thank you for your dedication to the diy community.
Sincerely, theRainHarvester
My ghast is flabbered!
Robert Horwat
SaltyBrains
@Jackson Steenbergh
@Drew Tatum
EVERY. DANG. TIME. I see that "Magic Sand" anywhere I think to myself, "I'll be danged if that junk don't look just like brightly-colored greensand, I wonder if it'd take a cast, or catch right on fire?" Thanks for doing the experiment for me, brethren!!! (Also, ye don't seem to have cussed at the aluminum, ye feelin' ok???)
Excellent presentation, thank you for taking the mystery out of the aluminum casting.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video... Very helpful...
Thanks for the heads up on the small graphite crucibles. A while ago, I got a much larger silicon carbide crucible which takes a considerable amount more heating to achieve pourable metal.
Cool trick...learned that from my journeyman 25 years ago. Thankyou for passing it on as well.
great demo and info... especially the quick sand mould ... A word of caution to those who cast aluminum keep molten aluminum away from water... you will get an explosion. I visited Reynolds Aluminum in SC and watched them cast billets for extrusion. They had a 10 foot diameter patch in the ceiling where the 1 ton went when the molten aluminum leaked into the water cooling the mould.
Great demo Chris -- have to try that.
i should speek for most of us we get so excited when we see new video keep it up my man!!!!
top notch goofing around in the shop looked like a fun play day
Ave your knowledge and abilities are so high i almost expected this video to finish with a simple method of pressure casting 😁
Hell yeah for new vids!
And thank you for turning me on to Clickspring!
+AvE ...Narcissist
+Zachary Allen Been a long time since i've seen Geoffs face...a long long time.
+Rebel12guagez I hope it brings back good memories!
Only the best of dancing around a field with a Gus cut-out
Perfect,thanks AvE.
Professional casting aluminum manufacturer,very good video.
This is definitely a good tip if you have aluminum stock to melt. I have large flat pieces like cut up mac keyboards, etc. You'd have to chop them up into nubbins to use this method. I have a charcoal + hair dryer in a coffee can setup and its easier to melt large amounts to make some clean chunks which would then go into this setup really easy. This would be cleaner than the charcoal stuff, for sure.
i did that with drink cans and a few frying pans melted them down poured the alloy into whipped cream cans and threw the casting into the lathe, machined it off and made diff bushes
works a treat then i threw them into the deep freeze to shrink them and hammered them in with a big hammer and a slice of alloy to not damage the bushes
Just when I think I've seen all of your videos a pleasant surprise shows up
Nice job, well done. The commentary with the video was very funny 😁 lol
thanks for the share on this, im hoping it will come in handy for scale and rc parts :-)
Holy moose nuts 🥜 I finally buy a furnace and AVE drops this. Canadians are the best machinists. I’m a Canadican so I’m not that good 😂
I think you are my 5th subscription and you earned it from in before I finished my first coffee and in thumbnail view. You sir, are fucking great!! Looks like I got some binge-watching to do, keep it up
thx, I just learned about lost investment wax or styrafoam molding. nice to know there is a wah to do a little something w/o having to make a big smelter setup.
If you want to get rid of the shrinkage you can use the aluminum from a engine or cylinder head, or an alloy rim.
You can also use a sprue, which is basically providing extra metal to compensate.
Great video! simple casting made easy!
Love the movies keep up the good work .... Would love a shop tour I know u got some really good stuff to share
ha, sweet. I been saving my aluminum, finding scraps and such to do a few pours, and work my way up to brass. this seems reasonable for an initial start.
now you're on the hook - you owe us a quality casting, MVP.
That sand has possibilities
Fun Fact, we actually call that "shrink" when we scrap castings out for that. If there is a casting with bad shrink in a certain area we will add a riser to that spot which is essentially a reservoir that will fill up with metal that the casting can then pull iron out of while it cools.
Thanks for teaching me new terminology.
I was drinking coffee right at the end then choked on it with that last little comment you made... Not much makes me laugh anymore but you damn near made me piss myself I was laughing that hard!
Sweet! I would have bet money it was not possible with a handheld torch out in the open.
+Applied Science i done that before with a propane torch and 100 g of aluminium but its a pain in the ass and you cant cast much
Brice it’s probably easier if you do it by the ounce instead of by the gram.
use to throw old aluminum rims in a fire pit with a cone shape, all the aluminum ran into a coffee can, that was before the epa started watching us peeps on farms.
I've melted soda cans in a wood campfire before. More than once.
Yes it is possible i also did it few days back
I have an original aluminum milbro catapult (slingshot) from when I was a kid, would be great make another!
I'd still like to see you do this with the welder. I've seen what a 9 volt can do to a bit of pencil graphite. Would be neat to see what it does to a crucible.
FOR SOME REASON I'M ADDICTED TO THIS CHANNEL. MUST BE THE SALTY, COCKY, ABRASIVE ATTITUDE THAT WE ALL LOVE.
Very nice... good to see someone promoting BASIC skills!Can't wait to see what you do next AvE!
I worked in Foundries for years, aluminum and zinc some bronze, if you like shaking hands with the devil every day a foundry is a great place to work LOL
+Rex Holes I've spent time in steel foundries myself, they're definitely a hazardous work environment, but they are cool as frig to say the least. Watching 15,000lbs of steel being poured is a hell of an experience. Foundries are a dying industry thanks to the majority of casting productiong being sent overseas to China and India, so there's a major shortage of younger people like myself going into foundries or patternshops. It is actually a pretty lucrative field where you can learn a lot of cool skills. There's quite a fair bit of job availability too.
I've got a box of ceramic fiber wool in Alberta with your name on it if you're so inclined
you still got it?
@AvE question: what is the weight of the dross(sic) compared to the molten aluminum? of course you can break it up and skim it, but what does the remainder do? ie does it float in the liquid aluminum? what is the purpose of the salt?
You always make me laugh man. Thanks
Could this process be used to make a lathe change gear? I have a bunch of 60XX aluminum laying around and just blew out a ZAMAC gear for my Atlas TH42.
I'm assuming the finished gear would need a lot of finish work on the lathe itself, but would probably be easier than trying to cut it on the mill.
Have you tried this sand on a bigger scale casting? Like somewhere in the range of 10+ lbs? Just kinda curious how well this would work for some semi-serious production.
nice video can you show it using the welder would be cool to see how that works.
I think he did one with a welder a while back
darwin miller
Wasn't that Tungsten, Titanium or some really touchy metal and didn't it fail?
Think it'd be significantly easier to fry up aluminum with an arc welder though.
I'd definitely like to see a demo of that method though.
Torch sounds like a tie fighter there towards the end.. that's my enlightening cuntribution to the world of casting. ' )
I was waiting for the classic " focus you fuck". is this a new, non voice activated camera?
+Geoff Bridges A new camera is unlikely to change that, he's been yelling that longer than the camera has been fancy enough to hear him.
Hahah I was too... Guess this one uses mind control
+zrobotics really, he needs to change its focus mode or get one with a manual ring with that little tab you just rotate around. I hear the new galaxy 7 edge plus focuses way quicker than the new apple phone. Now he has a legitimate reason for the wife unit to let him upgrade!
BikingMNViking Frankly I have an iphone 5s. It Focuses very fast, and I've never taken a blurry picture, long as I wasn't shaky. I don't see how a S7 could be much faster, mines already perfect
Ian Thompson
OK, put up a video of some pretend cast part in a vice and then a close up and we'll see? I'm just reporting what the reporter reported, reportedly.
Seriously there is a side by side video where the guy is out at the mountains & compares focuses between the 7 edge and the iphone 6 -- whether that makes it right for Ave's more macro style of shooting is still in question as I haven't seen that video but this is YT, search around, it's probably here if anywhere since this is the #2 search engine in the world according to Alexa.
I just know in one way AVE is a perfectionist, or at least expects good results for good work he does and he always calls it like it is. Why shouldn't he expect the same of his camera?
Or maybe he should switch to a pinhole type camera? (IE: Non adjustable F stop, I think the go pro's are like this. I know you can get dedicated cameras for security on amazon for cheap (& small) that should be able to focus that close easily & at least be 720 HD -- I bought several for a security project I am working on. I need to spend time with them and right now I have to eat & leave.)
In foundry class we used pool shock as a cheap upgrade to salt. Not sure if it matters but we added it once melted then skimmed.
If your serious about getting into casting this is a great way to go nice and cheap if you want to cast something half the size of an ice block. the reason you see all the other diy foundries is beause you can actually cast something of use. my diy foundry was just over 1KG in size and still not happy, but if you want to make trinkets then this method will suit you fine.
I use a small cast iron bowl with a lid. I put it in the coals in my wood burner in my shop and once it gets going i can do a batch about every 15 minutes, it wont do anything more then aluminum but its a fun way to store scrap
Thanks man gonna start making molds your awesome
Hi,
And thanks for a super interesting video, interesting subject!
I believe you can also use dirt cheap powdered Borax (twenty something team of donkeys brand) as it acts as a cleaning flux when molten.
I belive Clickspring does this when tempering steel.
DONT USE BORAX FOR ALUMINUM! like he said potassium chloride (NOSALT) is what you want to use. use the borax for ferrus metals (iron steel etc).
+sideswipe147 Thank you! The borax will cause the aluminum to corrode fast and deep. Guaranteed part failure. Salt substitute ("Morton Lite Salt" is a blend of the two, and a $3 bottle goes a long way) is great.
@@sideswipe147 Is the NOSALT brand trademarked?
this is so true when doing temp quick fixes and small thing ( junk) or play
Can I reuse the sand after casting? And how well does the magic sand hold its shape?
which material is better for casting complex shapes in heavy detail.???
I appreciate yer humor!
I saw a guy making transfer case housings in the sand on the ground in india iirc, another video on here.
Good video with a couple useful tidbits! Thx.
Brings back happy memories of TIG welding aluminum in high school. Probably should have gotten certified if getting through the dross is really that hard...
Great video, thank you.
Bob's your Auntie! I thought that was a saying only used by my family. Awesome!
If you use the hard clay slip casting material you can cast with amazing precision.
AvE does the heat source make any difference on the amount if slag?
1. Would it be good enough for you to use in a mill, or would it be better to start with billet?
2. Would that high-temp silicone stuff be better than magic sand?
Ben, thanks for the reply. I realize I was being overly simplistic with the cross section suggestion. The home gamer isn't going to polish and acid etch for an electron microscope inspection of crystal structure. I would be curious about inclusions, porosity or internal fractures from uneven cooling. I was a ME student years ago, but metallurgy was never my thing. Power transmission/geartrains.
Could you please leave a link to the graphite crucible that you are using here on ebay?
Hi. Can magic sand be used for casting silver? Small things. Thanks.
Nice work
What I would love to know ave and you are the man to ask is at work we have induction heaters that heat pipe 4.5" diameter.375 wall up to 1100 degrees in about 8 seconds, I've always wondered how much it cost to heat 1 pipe in electricity, we would do about 7000 ends in a 24 hour period.
Great video! Is the magic sand reusable after casting?
i dont think so
This camera angle confuses me. It's like upside-down backwards and crooked
+grumpybill haha
+grumpybill You ever do that thing where your half asleep and you feel yourself slipping, so you launch out of bed trying to catch yourself?? Thats this guy when he passes that damned window.
grumpybill
gg well played
Jttv
You g0t ReKt!
I do want to get into casting. I built myself a badass brazing/welding table using a graphite board.
Would you be willing to show us how to make an inductive heater?
+ELECTRONTHORP With some insulation, that would have melted a whole lot faster. A little five sided box of firebrick would make a huge difference. From working with 1k studio lights, I'm pretty sure there's enough umph there to melt a good sized chunk of aluminium in an insulated crucible.
could you use lost foam casting technique and magic sand?
Damn son, fast with putting on those gloves!
So I work at a small engine factory. When you scale the process up to really big parts, it becomes an absolute pain in the ASS. That shrinkage that occurs during the cooling process can cause something called "Shrinkage Porosity". Basically the part rips voids into itself, that resembles cracks or air bubbles. The bad thing is they can go completely unnoticed, unless it's uncovered when machining the part. I have sent a few thousand engine heads back to be melted down again, because of shrinkage porosity that goes unnoticed until the parts reach the production line. I wish i was the guy in charge of QC in the aluminum machining department. Evidently he's paid to do the absolute bare minimum!
Can't you fix that with better alloys ??
The Yamaha / Mercury casting comes up from underneath. It reduces dross in the casting, and I think they vibrate the forms a little too.
Old shop teacher had some 4" steel pipe with a bit of plate welded on the bottom. Used a rose bud to melt the bits of aluminum. I don't recall what he used for a degasser - maybe borax. Obviously the pipe will burn out over time but for a quick deal that will last a reasonable amount of time especially for the occasional casting project it was an inexpensive way to get a decent volume of aluminum.
good info. Can i use the sand again?
Hey, can you do a video on reclaiming soda and/or beer cans to get the aluminum back? I wanna see whether or not it's possible to turn a shit-ton of soda cans into aluminum that I can use for random casting purposes (as well as whether or not the product of the process would be of a decent quality and not just a pile of useless slag that's not worth a dime). Also, random question, is it possible to cast something and then mill said item using either a lathe or a CNC machine to a decent quality?
good lesson thanks
Worked at a machine shop making safety relief valves, the raw casting is exactly what you'd start off with before making it more pretty.
How did you learn all this stuff, AvE?
I am quite new to this, but how does the sand of mold for aluminium differ from the sand for casting iron?
the humor side of ur videos is absolutely awesome. keep up the great work
what if i want to cast my own intake manifolds? any tips?
Btw thanks for the hint on the cheap Fluke meter. Didn't really need to spend the money, but hey quality cheap tools right?
I think the thing he made would be a nice volume knob and thanks to the mold you can make many copies
Could that method be used to join two pieces of aluminum together in instead of welding?.
Thanks, well done
Semi related question, Would a Mapp/ oxygen system be hot enough to melt/cut aluminum? I don't have an oxy-acetylene setup. Propane is obviously easily available but I wasn't sure about heat output, time, or other limitations like needing a forge,kiln,etc. especially depending on the amount. I'm also going to try your welder powered style sometime too for curiosity's sake. Cheers!
Mspark400 Smith mapp is more than hot enough to handle aluminum.
Awesome vid