11:48 Bobby is probably the most incompetent person Jigsaw ever tested. He doesn't manage to save anybody from their traps and they all die. At least in Saw III Jeff saved the judge even though he got killed by a shotgun trap a bit later.
I agree though. Bobby has been arrogant when he wrote the book and incompetent when he is put to the test. In my opinion, I would’ve made a story based on real life stories of those who have survived Jigsaw’s tests and the theme of the book would be to always savor your life as well as be willing to help others who have been going through hard times. I would also have the story of the book be giving the reader a psychological perspective/experience of what the victims and the survivors have been feeling and how terrifying it was to be through the tests and how they had to choose who must die or how they should’ve helped each other to survive.
I really just love how the horror community has no problem supporting each other. It’s cheesy but seeing drama everywhere, it’s refreshing to see creators actually giving other creators shout-outs.
Like, fish hooks are literally made that way, that if you don't have the correct angle, the only way they're coming off is shredding the thing they're stuck on. There was no way she would have survived if he did actually do it. Way too much internal bleeding.
Also the next trap, like you wake up in a literal death trap. The only way you get off is if someone else can hold heavy weights with spikes in their sides, and if they don't, you get fucking spikes in your eyes until you die. Ye, I would be screaming too.
@@DissedRedEngie especially if the guy whose doing the lifting is a scrawny man who takes off his shirt every ten seconds showing off a smooth stomach.
i don't really remember but i think the wife doesn't even know that Bobby is lying about him surviving Jigsaw trap and that's why her death is so painful to watch because she's innocent. and also saw fans really mad because she's dead instead of Bobby.
She didn't because before Bobby starts the real version of the trap he lied about being in he admits to Joyce he was never in one. The fact that she did nothing wrong and ended up burning alive for it shows how evil both John and Hoffman are.
@@miamafalda1118 Probably. Hoffman was only using Bobby's test to distract the police while he got into the station to kill Jill so he probably modified the traps to be inescapable.
@@Xehanort10 and he tested bobby for lying for publicity. that’s a indecent thing to do but i don’t think it deserves a game. like bobby wasn’t actively harming or taking advantage of anyone like most of the victims. this game seems more like john being annoyed that bobby’s lying for clout rather than him doing something he deems immoral. then again, john kramer is fucking insane.
Probably because she was scared? I mean she woke up tied up on a chair, in a strange place with a fish hook in her gut and sharp spikes pointed at her throat... I would probably scream out too.
@@TheDevilDarling lol exactly. I would scream as soon as I wake up in a room like that before even knowing what’s happening just cause I know I’m probably about to die a horrible painful death... and usually for some trivial crap 😆.
"It's Halloween. It must be Saw." This was so true because my husband and I watched the Saw movies each year. In fact that was our first date. We went to a nice restaurant afterwards and talked non stop about how good the movie was. Good memories 😊
Nothing more romantic than watching Saw movies with your SO lol. Your husband is lucky though, I wish my gf liked Saw and horror movies as much as I do, I had to basically drag her to watch Jigsaw 😏
People get annoyed at the publicist for screaming, but that trap is the hardest to watch for me, personally. I'm usually good with gore, but this one is SO hard to endure, maybe because there's no explicit gore being shown so we're left to IMAGINE what it would look and feel like, and that's horrifying. The scariest thing indeed is our imagination.
Everyone blames the MC for not stepping on the chains and hoisting himself up that way, but I’m pretty sure the reasoning is that they don’t want to break Jigsaws rules. You’re put into the traps for being cheats or liars. Would you not think, by not following his rules, that you’d face even greater repercussions?
@@sydneyp7867 I mean in relation to his wife the others did. They all helped him spread his lies. His wife did not know anything Sure, none of them deserved what happened but I think you know what I mean
Fun fact: there was a draft of the script where Evan survived and that was the original idea for the trap, but due to scheduling conflicts, they had to rewrite it to kill Evan instead.
Not going to lie, while it sounds like Evan was one of the Jigsaw brigade’s actually scummier victims, it sure would be interesting to see a character survive flaying his own back.
Respectfully, I have to disagree with your take on Nina's trap. I think anyone with a fish hook being pulled out of their mouth while simultaneously having their insides shredded would find it difficult to keep quiet if they weren't sedated. I love your videos though. You have quite the keen eye and I always enjoy how you break down the hidden meanings of things you find.
ye innit i agree too this movies traps and games were the worst out of the whole series imo *the brazen bull was way too much *the tooth pulling is just horrible *the fish hook trap 😳
Simone is the only one who really gets it and is living proof that the radical idea of John cramer isn't 100% accurate. A bad person who will do anything to get by would likely do well in a saw trap especially one where it is a competition. She is still the same person who will likely still do what she used to do
Aye that’s a sound thought 😃👌🏾 Cause she really was willing, she just used her own nature to survive, and why would she change if her “nature” saved her life
The drug dealer from Saw II was exactly like that! Instead of submit to being tested, he hucked Amanda down in to needle pit, and he faced no direct repercussions for it!
When Gordon came out of the shadows, I was actually VERY happy! I thought this whole time he died from blood loss, and I SWEAR the second skeleton I saw when the bathroom game was discovered had his clothes....but then I forgot Zep died there too.
I think his appearance should’ve been at the very end of the movie when Hoffmann is captured Would’ve been a true surprise instead of him showing up at the group meeting
okay but every single time I watch bobby try to help his publicist I'm like "HOW CAN SHE KEEP FROM SCREAMING IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT" but also when Hoffman sends the second email, the subject line is "I'm here!" indicating the bodybag plan
Don’t know if you’ve covered this but you should do the flaws of Hoffman’s traps. The traps and games that were supposed to be designed for the subject to sacrifice a part of themselves to learn how valuable their life is, turned into something where he got sloppy and people didn’t find the meaning AKA Simone
Flaw: Hoffman is a Bitch and a Bastard Well, really the flaw isn’t even that he’s sloppy, John’s ideology is just shit in practice. Yeah, sometimes a near death experience will make you appreciate life more but different people react to trauma differently. Take Amanda, for example, she’s probably the biggest supporter of Jigsaw’s ideology but she was even more traumatized after her test. She just started self-harming instead of doing drugs. Also Hoffman doesn’t really care about rehabilitation as he does getting off on the power he gets from putting people in traps and punishing people he sees as wrongdoers.
Girl don’t fuckin blame Simone for not “learning” anything about having to chop off her own arm ffs… not every traumatic event can lead to a teachable moment. Sometimes it just sucks
Thanks for pointing out those previous traps in the evidence room! One may have just overlooked them as just random props but the fact the set was so detailed with callbacks to each movie is incredible!
They filmed a dream sequence for saw 3, with amanda having nightmares about Adam and seeing his ghost because she regretted leaving him to die. It's in the deleted scenes
In the defense of speak no evil and hear no evil, even though they know what to do, but their brain telling them to do deferently. Like how when I go to the dentist, and even though I know that the dentist has given me anesthetic, my brain was telling me to brace myself; and every time that I go there, I always the armrests really hard and sweating profusely
It’s interesting that in Saw 3, the three people associated with Jeff’s son’s death are the driver who killed him, the witness who saw it, and the judge who let them off the hook somewhat. In Saw 7, the big three are the publicist, the best friend, and lawyer. Coincidence? Maybe I’m reading too much into it. Also the main/final test involves their wife Lynn, and Joyce respectively.
I'm very late to this video but I actually learned about this from studying Sekiro, Bobby's wife imo represents the sometimes used fourth monkey Sezaru, or do no evil, since she's pretty much innocent in all this
Bobby's test is absolutely doable. If you've ever seen Strangeland you know there are people out there who do this just to meditate and have an out of body experience. The key to succeeding is to insert the hooks through the skin of your chest but NOT THE MUSCLE! So obvious and honestly pretty low on the pain scale compared to other traps, i.e. pulling teeth & throat key fishing...
same thing would have happened if he did what you stated....there might have been a better way to do it but at the time he had no time to figure that out lol
The Opening trap i see people complain that Hoffman has no real reason or time to set this trap up but perhaps it might of been Lawrence Gordon who did it to find some disciples to train himself and this was their test to see if these two had potential. I know it does say in the commentary that the two guys with Gordon at the end are the two we see in the trap at the start. I dont know if it holds any weight but just my thinking
the love triangle trap has always been one of my favourites, even when it's a part of my least favourite Saw movie. It has this kind of a funny yet "holy sh*t this is actually happening" feel to it.
Corvette wouldn't be at a meeting since she would be what 12 by the time this happened. Brent was most likely thrown in prison for killing Bobby and Pamela was probably at his trial testifying
Actually, Tara was seen at the support group so there's a good chance Brent is there too. The actor for Brent (Devon Bostick) was too busy to make a cameo since he was filming Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
There are two other small points but they're mainly theories. There were three people wearing pigman costumes that kidnapped Hoffman after he went back to burn the bunker he was hiding in during Saw 3D. One of them is confirmed to be Dr Gordon, but the other two were never revealed. However, the theory is that the other two men were Ryan and Brad from the opening. The other is that when Hoffman killed Jill at the end and says Game Over, it didn't count as the game officially stopping and ending the movie, because Hoffman was still not in charge of the game, even though he thought he had killed the only person in charge of his game. So when Lawrence said Game Over, it was the official end of the movie
Not that it’s part of saw continuity, but something else that stood out was when Hoffman is leaving his hideout, the wooden crates in the background had CWD5 on them in the same font as the Canadian show “Canada’s worst drivers 5 “. Based on this, Hoffman’s hideout is at the drivers rehabilitation centre at CFB Borden in Ontario. 👍
We are forgetting a crucial piece to some of this content in the fact that the participants can't find a way around the trap. We saw in Jigsaw what happened when you don't play by the rules, so Bobby putting his feet on the hooks and riding up might be something Hoffman suspected he would do and so there may be an anti-cheat mechanism somewhere near the top of the contraption.
15:35 One of the most interesting things about that meat hook trap is that everyone says it's physically impossible, though theoretically, it's not. I've actually known people personally who'll have their backs looped through with hooks and lifted above the ground for an adrenaline rush. My dads actually done it. It's more common with crowds of people like piercers, and they usually do it through their backs, not the pecks, so that might make a difference, but I'm unsure.
Hoffmans access wasn't revoked, that's why he had access to the security cameras. The email address he used to email the videos was his police email address
Very thorough work! I've really enjoyed this series for Saw and for Final Destination Do you have any theories of how John chose his disciples? Originally, I thought that he wanted people who would be willing to kill another person, but Dr. Gordon goes against that theory (not including the Saw 7 ending)
I don’t know if you already know but Simone (Tanedra Howard) and the girl under the car in the car trap competed in a competition show called scream queens where they won that role also they are on CZcams if you want to watch them
Great catch connecting the Pain Train from Saw 3D with the Tongue Trap in Spiral! The survivors you pointed out, would have created a better sense of nostalgia than the randoms we get. Also, it would have made Gordon's big reveal way less obvious. You absolutely killed it with the Evidence Room! That was phenomenal 💣💥
I love horror movies, and you've really helped me appreciate them even more. Thanks for the great channel and the time and effort you put into your superb content
11:08 To be fair, if a fishhook and key were being dragged up your entire esophagus, it would probably be pretty hard not to scream - not saying its impossible, but you have to imagine the sheer pain
Ok, so I honestly think that one of the hardest traps in the saw series is Nina's. Like, you say that she just had to stay quiet, but imagine literally having a hook ripping your insides. I honestly have a hard time thinking that most wouldnt scream
He could’ve put the chain hooks through the belt loops of his pants! I do think people tend to not do creative things to escape their traps because they’re scared of not following the rules. For all they know, they’re being watched and if they disobey, they die. But, I agree a lot of things people won’t try are frustrating.
Here is a list of the known survivors not part of this group: Jeff Ridenhour- Either in Prison or something [Though he appears in the Saw The Video Game] Alison Gordon- Somewhere Diana Gordon- Somewhere else Daniel Matthews- Living with his mother Corbett Denlon- Maybe living with a relative Morgan- Therapy or somewhere Brit Stevenson- Choose to not join in Brent Abott- Either in juvenile detention or jail Pamela Jenkins- Therapy Shelby- Therapy or chose to not join in Joan- Far away Logan Nelson- Either in the war or busy at work
It’s sad we didn’t the proper ending of SAW, what I mean is that SAW 3D was suppose to be split into 2 parts. But since SAW 6 didn’t make much at the box office they only ended at only 1 more film left.
Can not wait for the next ones! I love your videos on saw they explain so much that I missed. Especially the character videos. Would love ones on all of the main characters from the beginning to Jigsaw 😍
I wish there were more Saw movies so Zack would comment on them, I could listen to him analyse details from horror movies all day long. Can't wait for a few months when he point things I missed in Spiral, stay safe man! efit: disappointed Zack didn't make fun of the pink blood
Was waiting for you to mention Jill's ridiculous running when leaving the cell 😂 it makes me cringe every time I watch it, what acting school taught her to run 😂😂
Yeah, The 4 unknown survivors in the church are interesting & to think who they could be, these are my best guesses. #1: The blond girl sitting next to Bobby & Ryan could possibly be either Pamela Jenkins or Shelby from Saw 6. #2: The elderly woman sitting next to Simone & Mallick is most likely Morgan from Saw 4. #3: The guy sitting next to Brad & Tara could be Officer Pete Baker, a minor character from Saw 2, the one who got his calves snapped in half from the stairs trap. #4: The hat guy sitting next to Addy might be Jeff Ridenhour from Saw. Just Guessing😆
You couldn’t have found 2 more things?
I tried my HARDEST
😂🤣
@@CZsWorld Lmaoooo this is why I love you
@@CZsWorld not HARD enough 😂
@@CZsWorld I can just imagine you crazily rewatching the movie over and over for two more things, going completely mad
I love it when Gordon says "promotional DVD"
Remarkable.
@@CZsWorld please do a video on spiral and the spiral music video . There's alot of clues
Because he’s only in it for the corporate sponsors. 😐. Still.
Same lol. Why is that funny?
PROmotional DVD👍🏴
11:48 Bobby is probably the most incompetent person Jigsaw ever tested. He doesn't manage to save anybody from their traps and they all die. At least in Saw III Jeff saved the judge even though he got killed by a shotgun trap a bit later.
It’s ironic because he’s supposed to be an expert on Saw because he claimed to be in a saw trap, but in an actual trap, he’s incompetent
Nah he was very close every time
I agree though. Bobby has been arrogant when he wrote the book and incompetent when he is put to the test. In my opinion, I would’ve made a story based on real life stories of those who have survived Jigsaw’s tests and the theme of the book would be to always savor your life as well as be willing to help others who have been going through hard times. I would also have the story of the book be giving the reader a psychological perspective/experience of what the victims and the survivors have been feeling and how terrifying it was to be through the tests and how they had to choose who must die or how they should’ve helped each other to survive.
I really just love how the horror community has no problem supporting each other. It’s cheesy but seeing drama everywhere, it’s refreshing to see creators actually giving other creators shout-outs.
_"I saw James' Kill Count and I'm gonna 1up him"_
*Beautiful*
got em
I hope James sees this lol
"Why wouldn't Nina stop screaming?"
Could be because a fish hook was being dragged through her body.
It'd be kinda hard not to scream.
He maybe did understand. And was making a joke. Come on now.
Im not the only one thinking this 🤣
Like, fish hooks are literally made that way, that if you don't have the correct angle, the only way they're coming off is shredding the thing they're stuck on. There was no way she would have survived if he did actually do it. Way too much internal bleeding.
Also the next trap, like you wake up in a literal death trap. The only way you get off is if someone else can hold heavy weights with spikes in their sides, and if they don't, you get fucking spikes in your eyes until you die. Ye, I would be screaming too.
@@DissedRedEngie especially if the guy whose doing the lifting is a scrawny man who takes off his shirt every ten seconds showing off a smooth stomach.
i don't really remember but i think the wife doesn't even know that Bobby is lying about him surviving Jigsaw trap and that's why her death is so painful to watch because she's innocent. and also saw fans really mad because she's dead instead of Bobby.
I'm not saying she knew, I don't think she did.
She didn't because before Bobby starts the real version of the trap he lied about being in he admits to Joyce he was never in one. The fact that she did nothing wrong and ended up burning alive for it shows how evil both John and Hoffman are.
IKR? That is so unfair. Which makes me think that part of the trap was Hoffman's idea, since that seems to be against John's philosophy.
@@miamafalda1118 Probably. Hoffman was only using Bobby's test to distract the police while he got into the station to kill Jill so he probably modified the traps to be inescapable.
@@Xehanort10 and he tested bobby for lying for publicity. that’s a indecent thing to do but i don’t think it deserves a game. like bobby wasn’t actively harming or taking advantage of anyone like most of the victims. this game seems more like john being annoyed that bobby’s lying for clout rather than him doing something he deems immoral. then again, john kramer is fucking insane.
I mean I’m sure you’d scream too if a fishing hook with a key is being yanked out....but I don’t know why she’d scream before the game began
Probably because she was scared?
I mean she woke up tied up on a chair, in a strange place with a fish hook in her gut and sharp spikes pointed at her throat...
I would probably scream out too.
@@antheathetiefling8581 she should know it’s one of Saw’s traps
@@royalpain9281 I think knowing it's a saw trap would give her all the more reason to scream, if anything.
@@TheDevilDarling ....fair point
@@TheDevilDarling lol exactly. I would scream as soon as I wake up in a room like that before even knowing what’s happening just cause I know I’m probably about to die a horrible painful death... and usually for some trivial crap 😆.
"It's Halloween. It must be Saw." This was so true because my husband and I watched the Saw movies each year. In fact that was our first date. We went to a nice restaurant afterwards and talked non stop about how good the movie was. Good memories 😊
Awwwwww
Nothing more romantic than watching Saw movies with your SO lol. Your husband is lucky though, I wish my gf liked Saw and horror movies as much as I do, I had to basically drag her to watch Jigsaw 😏
That’s so cute!!! Movies are the best date idea because you have something in common to talk about afterwards.
John Kramer. Promoting happy marriages since 2004. Shame about his own marriage though.
I want a relationship like yours someday.
Simone is the single most reasonable character in the whole series
She's like the Lisa Simpson of Saw.
@@CZsWorld All while being the worst actor in the series 🤣
The judge from Saw III was also kinda wise.
@@KiLLJOY1056 I think she played her role alright lol
I don’t know bro,
She mocked that one girl who finally felt free from her abuser.
Like, sorry I’m not mourning my abuser lady,
People get annoyed at the publicist for screaming, but that trap is the hardest to watch for me, personally. I'm usually good with gore, but this one is SO hard to endure, maybe because there's no explicit gore being shown so we're left to IMAGINE what it would look and feel like, and that's horrifying. The scariest thing indeed is our imagination.
Just like how Jill's miscarriage nearly made me look away. I'm surprised I didn't look away on both her miscarriage, and the Speak No Evil thing.
Soooooooooooo more or less Nina is infact a publicist?
Cuz ya SHE SHOULDVE SHUT THE F**K UP
it's that bit of viscera that pops out at the end for me... oof
Fuuuarrck that trap is particularly brutal.
Everyone blames the MC for not stepping on the chains and hoisting himself up that way, but I’m pretty sure the reasoning is that they don’t want to break Jigsaws rules.
You’re put into the traps for being cheats or liars. Would you not think, by not following his rules, that you’d face even greater repercussions?
We did see that in the first Saw film when Adam in a cringe fashion pretended to die from the cigarette. He received an electric shock.
The only person I feel bad for is Bobby's wife, she got such a brutal death and really didnt deserve it imo
Agree
Did any of them deserve it?!!!
@@sydneyp7867 I mean in relation to his wife the others did. They all helped him spread his lies. His wife did not know anything
Sure, none of them deserved what happened but I think you know what I mean
Seriously tho because she didn't do anything. Her husband and his team lied about everything to everyone. Hoffman didn't have to put her in this.
Why does everyone forget about Adam who died in Saw III
The “brutality” Matthews clip kills me everytime 😂😂
They should add the Eric soundbyte into Rhea Ripley's This Is My Brutality WWE theme.
@@Xehanort10 I would listen to that shitty song then lol (I’m not a fan of Rhea’s song)
@@Randomperson-zt3il Especially the live performance of it at Wrestlemania.
@@Xehanort10 oh no!
Brutality
Fun fact: there was a draft of the script where Evan survived and that was the original idea for the trap, but due to scheduling conflicts, they had to rewrite it to kill Evan instead.
Not going to lie, while it sounds like Evan was one of the Jigsaw brigade’s actually scummier victims, it sure would be interesting to see a character survive flaying his own back.
Thank the Thousand Suns tour.
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RIP Chester.
Respectfully, I have to disagree with your take on Nina's trap. I think anyone with a fish hook being pulled out of their mouth while simultaneously having their insides shredded would find it difficult to keep quiet if they weren't sedated. I love your videos though. You have quite the keen eye and I always enjoy how you break down the hidden meanings of things you find.
Actually it's mostly cutting not shredding
@Dylan the bi guy Either way, I think it'd be hard to keep quiet.
ye innit i agree too this movies traps and games were the worst out of the whole series imo
*the brazen bull was way too much
*the tooth pulling is just horrible
*the fish hook trap 😳
Simone is the only one who really gets it and is living proof that the radical idea of John cramer isn't 100% accurate. A bad person who will do anything to get by would likely do well in a saw trap especially one where it is a competition. She is still the same person who will likely still do what she used to do
Aye that’s a sound thought 😃👌🏾 Cause she really was willing, she just used her own nature to survive, and why would she change if her “nature” saved her life
The drug dealer from Saw II was exactly like that! Instead of submit to being tested, he hucked Amanda down in to needle pit, and he faced no direct repercussions for it!
“Judging by their style..this is 1000% where FOUND FLIX!shops “
Hahaha 🤣
Shots fired...!
i just watched one of his videos
11:10 call me crazy but I think she was screaming because she had a fishing hook forcefully pulled through her esophagus
Yeah exactly, I don't get how this one was that hard to understand lol.....
Knowing me--I'd probably yell, too.
Hmmmmm maybe
Like for real who wouldn’t scream in pain in that situation?
When Gordon came out of the shadows, I was actually VERY happy! I thought this whole time he died from blood loss, and I SWEAR the second skeleton I saw when the bathroom game was discovered had his clothes....but then I forgot Zep died there too.
I think his appearance should’ve been at the very end of the movie when Hoffmann is captured
Would’ve been a true surprise instead of him showing up at the group meeting
okay but every single time I watch bobby try to help his publicist I'm like "HOW CAN SHE KEEP FROM SCREAMING IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT"
but also when Hoffman sends the second email, the subject line is "I'm here!" indicating the bodybag plan
I credit saw 7 for having some of the most anxiety inducing traps ever and my god, i was shaking by the speak and see no evil stuff. like jeez
Brazen Pig would probably be painful.
I’ve got to say, I really, really appreciate the subtitles. Thanks for adding them.
No problem 💀
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Chester :'(
Ikr RIP 😔
spiral around the corner baby
Yes
Hard to believe I haven't been to a theater in 15 months and the series I've been making content on might be my first one back.
@@CZsWorld It's like it was your destiny, can barely wait for the movie and your analysis.
@@offspringfan89 the offsprings new album is great
Fun fact: Gibson from Internal Affairs is the same guy that plays Tod Waggner from the first Final Destination movie.
He also did an episode in the second season of Monk.
Don’t know if you’ve covered this but you should do the flaws of Hoffman’s traps. The traps and games that were supposed to be designed for the subject to sacrifice a part of themselves to learn how valuable their life is, turned into something where he got sloppy and people didn’t find the meaning AKA Simone
Flaw: Hoffman is a Bitch and a Bastard
Well, really the flaw isn’t even that he’s sloppy, John’s ideology is just shit in practice. Yeah, sometimes a near death experience will make you appreciate life more but different people react to trauma differently. Take Amanda, for example, she’s probably the biggest supporter of Jigsaw’s ideology but she was even more traumatized after her test. She just started self-harming instead of doing drugs. Also Hoffman doesn’t really care about rehabilitation as he does getting off on the power he gets from putting people in traps and punishing people he sees as wrongdoers.
Girl don’t fuckin blame Simone for not “learning” anything about having to chop off her own arm ffs… not every traumatic event can lead to a teachable moment. Sometimes it just sucks
Didn't the line have a hook on it, you could hear it tearing her throat? I'd be fuckin screaming too 😂
The world needs a cz,foundflix and dead meat collab
11:07 The reason why she is screaming is because the key inside of her is LITERALLY RIPPING her ESOPHAGUS clean.
Thanks for pointing out those previous traps in the evidence room! One may have just overlooked them as just random props but the fact the set was so detailed with callbacks to each movie is incredible!
I really wanna see "Saw: The History of John Kramer"!
Hmmm I wonder something like that could come out May 15.
@@CZsWorld Nice to hear :)
They filmed a dream sequence for saw 3, with amanda having nightmares about Adam and seeing his ghost because she regretted leaving him to die. It's in the deleted scenes
In the defense of speak no evil and hear no evil, even though they know what to do, but their brain telling them to do deferently. Like how when I go to the dentist, and even though I know that the dentist has given me anesthetic, my brain was telling me to brace myself; and every time that I go there, I always the armrests really hard and sweating profusely
Why hasn’t anyone made a CZsWorld “BRUTALITY” compilation yet?
It’s interesting that in Saw 3, the three people associated with Jeff’s son’s death are the driver who killed him, the witness who saw it, and the judge who let them off the hook somewhat. In Saw 7, the big three are the publicist, the best friend, and lawyer. Coincidence? Maybe I’m reading too much into it. Also the main/final test involves their wife Lynn, and Joyce respectively.
i just finished watching saw 7 and at the part when hoffman shoots the junkie i actually shouted "BRUTALITY!"
I'm very late to this video but I actually learned about this from studying Sekiro, Bobby's wife imo represents the sometimes used fourth monkey Sezaru, or do no evil, since she's pretty much innocent in all this
Bobby's test is absolutely doable. If you've ever seen Strangeland you know there are people out there who do this just to meditate and have an out of body experience. The key to succeeding is to insert the hooks through the skin of your chest but NOT THE MUSCLE! So obvious and honestly pretty low on the pain scale compared to other traps, i.e. pulling teeth & throat key fishing...
same thing would have happened if he did what you stated....there might have been a better way to do it but at the time he had no time to figure that out lol
The only thing missing from these movies at this point is time travel... or space exploration. Hey, a SAW movie in space; not a terrible idea. 💡
It would be cool but how would it link into the universe?¿
Saw X
elon musk will be Jigsaw
Jason in space for Jason X a Possible terrible idea
let me remind you of the shit show that was jason x.....
The Opening trap i see people complain that Hoffman has no real reason or time to set this trap up but perhaps it might of been Lawrence Gordon who did it to find some disciples to train himself and this was their test to see if these two had potential. I know it does say in the commentary that the two guys with Gordon at the end are the two we see in the trap at the start.
I dont know if it holds any weight but just my thinking
the love triangle trap has always been one of my favourites, even when it's a part of my least favourite Saw movie. It has this kind of a funny yet "holy sh*t this is actually happening" feel to it.
I even liked how they choosed witch they did picked the right choice
Witch is kill the toxic bitch over her puppet bf
“i think we’re breaking up with you dina” will forever be iconic
You mentioning 2 of my favorite CZcamsrs before the opening credits and I was just geeking.
Corvette wouldn't be at a meeting since she would be what 12 by the time this happened. Brent was most likely thrown in prison for killing Bobby and Pamela was probably at his trial testifying
Brent killed William Easton, not Bobby
@@ChrisCollins068 William Easton that's right sorry got the names mixed up
Actually, Tara was seen at the support group so there's a good chance Brent is there too. The actor for Brent (Devon Bostick) was too busy to make a cameo since he was filming Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
@@bethanyjayva70 Doubtful I mean Pamela would have most likely pressed charges against Brent
@@solrachernandez3389 I agree, but the producers said they "wanted" Brent to show up in the support group. But I suppose they had to go with plan B.
Rip Chester Bennington 💔💔 can’t believe it’s been 4 years
There are two other small points but they're mainly theories. There were three people wearing pigman costumes that kidnapped Hoffman after he went back to burn the bunker he was hiding in during Saw 3D. One of them is confirmed to be Dr Gordon, but the other two were never revealed. However, the theory is that the other two men were Ryan and Brad from the opening. The other is that when Hoffman killed Jill at the end and says Game Over, it didn't count as the game officially stopping and ending the movie, because Hoffman was still not in charge of the game, even though he thought he had killed the only person in charge of his game. So when Lawrence said Game Over, it was the official end of the movie
it was confirmed to be brad & ryan in the audio commentary, they had to cut a scene where they took off the masks
CZsWorld video on a Saturday?? And I'm making waffles? Could today get any better?
I submit that it cannot.
Nope. It can only go down from here on.
Yo...I should make some waffles.
It can: syrup and butter for the waffles.
You could be making cheese waffles!
I thought I knew the Saw movies backwards and now feel like I didn't watch them properly at all! Excellent work!
I really hope that James from DeadMeat sees this and you guys start a “one up war”.
I will win!
What?! I never noticed that Chester played a character in this movie, R.I.P.
RIP the legend Chester Bennington ❤️
Not that it’s part of saw continuity, but something else that stood out was when Hoffman is leaving his hideout, the wooden crates in the background had CWD5 on them in the same font as the Canadian show “Canada’s worst drivers 5 “. Based on this, Hoffman’s hideout is at the drivers rehabilitation centre at CFB Borden in Ontario. 👍
You really went for the throat with that System of a Down jab😂
I hope James sees it and it starts a “one up war”. That’d be awesome seeing them do jokes each video that play off of each other.
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The history of Allison Kerry would be very interesting I’d love to see how you do it
We should all appreciate CZsWorlds editing skills!!
Claude Gnome edited this one for me.
We are forgetting a crucial piece to some of this content in the fact that the participants can't find a way around the trap. We saw in Jigsaw what happened when you don't play by the rules, so Bobby putting his feet on the hooks and riding up might be something Hoffman suspected he would do and so there may be an anti-cheat mechanism somewhere near the top of the contraption.
From the bottom of my heart, man, thank you for covering saw series in such a great detail
The three monkeys reference is actually pretty cool. And it sort of makes sense given the context.
Ya, agree.. thast what the newest one was missing - a common theme.
Your work deserves more attention! Amazing video
Thank you Maria 💀
15:35 One of the most interesting things about that meat hook trap is that everyone says it's physically impossible, though theoretically, it's not. I've actually known people personally who'll have their backs looped through with hooks and lifted above the ground for an adrenaline rush. My dads actually done it. It's more common with crowds of people like piercers, and they usually do it through their backs, not the pecks, so that might make a difference, but I'm unsure.
Hoffmans access wasn't revoked, that's why he had access to the security cameras. The email address he used to email the videos was his police email address
Very thorough work! I've really enjoyed this series for Saw and for Final Destination
Do you have any theories of how John chose his disciples? Originally, I thought that he wanted people who would be willing to kill another person, but Dr. Gordon goes against that theory (not including the Saw 7 ending)
Will discuss in a future video.
It can't have been 11 years since saw 3d. That's gonna give me an existential crisis.
Delete this 😭
I don’t know if you already know but Simone (Tanedra Howard) and the girl under the car in the car trap competed in a competition show called scream queens where they won that role also they are on CZcams if you want to watch them
Great catch connecting the Pain Train from Saw 3D with the Tongue Trap in Spiral!
The survivors you pointed out, would have created a better sense of nostalgia than the randoms we get. Also, it would have made Gordon's big reveal way less obvious.
You absolutely killed it with the Evidence Room! That was phenomenal 💣💥
I love horror movies, and you've really helped me appreciate them even more. Thanks for the great channel and the time and effort you put into your superb content
0:28 oof shots fired at my man 😂
11:08 To be fair, if a fishhook and key were being dragged up your entire esophagus, it would probably be pretty hard not to scream - not saying its impossible, but you have to imagine the sheer pain
Spiral coming soon is really exciting! Totally not gonna pirate it cuz I'm broke 😉
It should come out earlier but because of corona it came out late right?
@@toronto7670 honestly man, Idfk ._ .
Careful Hoffman might get you 😭🤣
@@alexysgonzalez2274 cool
@@YellowKodiak what happened to him after saw 7?
The s.u.r.v.i.v.e. on the wall was a super impressive find man 👏👏
Was Riggs not a good cop for wanting to save others?
Thank you. My partner & I watched Saw 7 last night. We've been watching these after every Saw movie. Counting down May 14.
Thank you, from Australia.
Two to go 💀
Ok, so I honestly think that one of the hardest traps in the saw series is Nina's. Like, you say that she just had to stay quiet, but imagine literally having a hook ripping your insides. I honestly have a hard time thinking that most wouldnt scream
He could’ve put the chain hooks through the belt loops of his pants! I do think people tend to not do creative things to escape their traps because they’re scared of not following the rules. For all they know, they’re being watched and if they disobey, they die. But, I agree a lot of things people won’t try are frustrating.
Saw & Final Destination are my favorite two series
What's your #3 so I cover it?
@@CZsWorld Leprechaun lol
16:31 Now that’s a book I’d love to read.
The "sawga" god I hate myself.
Here is a list of the known survivors not part of this group:
Jeff Ridenhour- Either in Prison or something [Though he appears in the Saw The Video Game]
Alison Gordon- Somewhere
Diana Gordon- Somewhere else
Daniel Matthews- Living with his mother
Corbett Denlon- Maybe living with a relative
Morgan- Therapy or somewhere
Brit Stevenson- Choose to not join in
Brent Abott- Either in juvenile detention or jail
Pamela Jenkins- Therapy
Shelby- Therapy or chose to not join in
Joan- Far away
Logan Nelson- Either in the war or busy at work
😂 @ the FoundFlix shots
It’s sad we didn’t the proper ending of SAW, what I mean is that SAW 3D was suppose to be split into 2 parts. But since SAW 6 didn’t make much at the box office they only ended at only 1 more film left.
I will never get enough of these Saw videos 🤟🏼
I always found Jigsaw and his wife were a mismatch, he is 20 years older than het and it shows lol.
I think he was 53 when he died so that's not that old.
CZsWorld, FoundFlix and DeadMeat? Best video ever.
Can not wait for the next ones! I love your videos on saw they explain so much that I missed. Especially the character videos. Would love ones on all of the main characters from the beginning to Jigsaw 😍
Just got out of work and can you make a horror history on John Kramer himself
The camera man’s screen at 3:13 is reminiscent of the tv screens from the earlier movies, being all green and kind of gritty
Patiently waiting for a FoundFlix & CZsWorld collab🙏🏾.
YES i was waiting for this part! Thanks for covering all the films!! :D
R.I.P Chester Beniton 😞🤘🙏
RIP
I wish there were more Saw movies so Zack would comment on them, I could listen to him analyse details from horror movies all day long.
Can't wait for a few months when he point things I missed in Spiral, stay safe man!
efit: disappointed Zack didn't make fun of the pink blood
A lot of these traps could be beaten by just clipping wires lol.
The first trap teaches us about the power of ✨friendship✨
I always look forward to these videos 😀
Knowing that Chester was in this movie is really cool
Now I'm going to see all the movies again !
Dr Lawrence Gordon's voice has changed quite a lot from saw 1 to saw 7
the "brutality" references never gets old lmaooo
Maybe for a minute there in 2020 though.
CZsWorld's laugh fills me with serotonin
Was waiting for you to mention Jill's ridiculous running when leaving the cell 😂 it makes me cringe every time I watch it, what acting school taught her to run 😂😂
Yeah, The 4 unknown survivors in the church are interesting & to think who they could be, these are my best guesses. #1: The blond girl sitting next to Bobby & Ryan could possibly be either Pamela Jenkins or Shelby from Saw 6. #2: The elderly woman sitting next to Simone & Mallick is most likely Morgan from Saw 4. #3: The guy sitting next to Brad & Tara could be Officer Pete Baker, a minor character from Saw 2, the one who got his calves snapped in half from the stairs trap. #4: The hat guy sitting next to Addy might be Jeff Ridenhour from Saw. Just Guessing😆