Thanks for sharing your experience . You are the man. I was doing 6 days per week too for some time ,but with time and strength - you just can't take this amount of volume . For me much better works 4 days ,but i can push really hard and know that I will successfully recover from it and will be stronger . And friendly reminder - start training your neck ) i was ignoring it for 4 years but neck its like cherry on the cake and make good shape equally as shoulders /traps. If not more
@@deyousi I know right 😂 it might be sound annoying but results worth it. I now doing it between big exercises and it works amazing. 1 warmup set, 2 hard, 2 lighter. One day - curls forward. Another day - curls back
great conclusion, there's really no value to anything we do if you're sick or injured the rest of the time - that goes double if the activity/pursuit we're chasing causes the sickness or injury
I know your pain man. I actually used to be a big boy. Then I lost a bunch of weight and started going to the gym. And it's being a struggle ever since then to try to eat more.
I do a P P L, but my shoulders go on leg day. push (chest, tri), pull (back, bi, RDL), Legs (leg press, calves, maybe leg curls then side and rear delt cables). Front delts are covered with most push, rear delts with most pulls. Side delts lack much work in those compounds and I like to add a rear focused movement. I do this alternating mostly and go 3-5 times a week. Age 33 and have low testosterone so I need more recovery. I stick to 3 sets of 6-10 reps most of the lifts with 2-4 minutes of rest between. This isnt too hard given I only do 4 lifts a day and ensures I am recovered for the next set of reps. Built this plan off of several large youtube creators and testing. Adding shoulders direct work on a day you have already done major compound pushes and pulls limits your ability to train them directly - and although you dont need to train them directly, I do them on legs to add to the shoulder width without any impact on my push work. This is what I have developed to work best for me in terms of lifts, reps and recovery over 8-10 years of off and on lifting. Hope that helps. Disclaimer: Everyone is different and respond to different reps ranges, weights, lifts and recovery times.
You can technically hit your shoulders whenever you want and when it's convenient. Front delts get hit on your push day and rears get hit on your pull days. So if you wonna get some extra volume in you can do extra shoulder work on those days. For me, the only mandatory shoulder exercise are lateral raises.
I'm a "skinny-fat" MF right now, but give me a year and with all that info form your vids, I'll be a beast version of myself, you just watch. What you say at the end is gold for me, because I used to watch influencers and actors and just would not even try to lift cuz "what's the point? will never look like that". Since I reduced social media, my psych health improved (coincidence??). Great vid as always man, happy Easter or what-not :)
During Phase 2 keeping calorie intake wasn't necessarily a mistake from my point of view as a skinny guy with very small apetite. Building the habit of eating a lot consistently is though and starting it over from near zero is soul crushing, tbh. You could have decreased it a little bit tho fur sure.
Test and tren does wonders
I can only imagine
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i was actually thinking about when we'd see an upload from you again, glad i got my answer
such a real video thanks bro.
yes keep going looking great!
Yes yes thank you
Thanks for sharing your experience . You are the man.
I was doing 6 days per week too for some time ,but with time and strength - you just can't take this amount of volume .
For me much better works 4 days ,but i can push really hard and know that I will successfully recover from it and will be stronger .
And friendly reminder - start training your neck ) i was ignoring it for 4 years but neck its like cherry on the cake and make good shape equally as shoulders /traps. If not more
Thanks, I appreciate the support.
You have no idea how many people have told me to train neck 😂 I might have to start
@@deyousi I know right 😂 it might be sound annoying but results worth it. I now doing it between big exercises and it works amazing. 1 warmup set, 2 hard, 2 lighter. One day - curls forward. Another day - curls back
great conclusion, there's really no value to anything we do if you're sick or injured the rest of the time - that goes double if the activity/pursuit we're chasing causes the sickness or injury
Thank you. Took me a while to learn that one
I know your pain man. I actually used to be a big boy. Then I lost a bunch of weight and started going to the gym. And it's being a struggle ever since then to try to eat more.
The struggle no one talks about :')
Keep making videos please, this was insightful! Still a beginner doing PPL, but do i only hit shoulders on Push days?
I do a P P L, but my shoulders go on leg day. push (chest, tri), pull (back, bi, RDL), Legs (leg press, calves, maybe leg curls then side and rear delt cables). Front delts are covered with most push, rear delts with most pulls. Side delts lack much work in those compounds and I like to add a rear focused movement. I do this alternating mostly and go 3-5 times a week. Age 33 and have low testosterone so I need more recovery. I stick to 3 sets of 6-10 reps most of the lifts with 2-4 minutes of rest between. This isnt too hard given I only do 4 lifts a day and ensures I am recovered for the next set of reps. Built this plan off of several large youtube creators and testing.
Adding shoulders direct work on a day you have already done major compound pushes and pulls limits your ability to train them directly - and although you dont need to train them directly, I do them on legs to add to the shoulder width without any impact on my push work. This is what I have developed to work best for me in terms of lifts, reps and recovery over 8-10 years of off and on lifting. Hope that helps. Disclaimer: Everyone is different and respond to different reps ranges, weights, lifts and recovery times.
Shoulders have 3 heads, the rear delt (back of your shoulder) should be hit properly on pull day not push day, so no
You can technically hit your shoulders whenever you want and when it's convenient. Front delts get hit on your push day and rears get hit on your pull days. So if you wonna get some extra volume in you can do extra shoulder work on those days. For me, the only mandatory shoulder exercise are lateral raises.
^ this exactly.
I'm a "skinny-fat" MF right now, but give me a year and with all that info form your vids, I'll be a beast version of myself, you just watch. What you say at the end is gold for me, because I used to watch influencers and actors and just would not even try to lift cuz "what's the point? will never look like that". Since I reduced social media, my psych health improved (coincidence??).
Great vid as always man, happy Easter or what-not :)
I'm coming back to this comment in 18 months. You got this brother
@@deyousi Thanks man!
During Phase 2 keeping calorie intake wasn't necessarily a mistake from my point of view as a skinny guy with very small apetite. Building the habit of eating a lot consistently is though and starting it over from near zero is soul crushing, tbh. You could have decreased it a little bit tho fur sure.
Yeah fair. My goal is mostly aesthetics so it was a mistake from that point of view but I hear you