Rebecca Long-Bailey sacked for sharing article with anti-Semitic conspiracy theory - BBC Newsnight
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- Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has sacked his one time leadership rival Rebecca Long-Bailey, saying she shared an article containing an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. Subscribe to our channel here: goo.gl/31Q53F
Mrs Long-Bailey's allies on the left of the party have criticised the decision.
Political Editor Nick Watt reports on the latest developments from Westminster and in the studio, Emma Barnett speaks to former MP Dame Louise Ellman, who quit Labour over anti-Semitism in 2019, and the General Secretary of the Fire Brigades Union, Matt Wrack.
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He never wanted her in his shadow cabinet in the first place. Just didn’t have the guts to leave her out. Now the excuse he needed.
Stephen Johnson, But it’s not a good excuse because clearly there is a difference between anti-Semitism and criticising Israel. And this was not a conspiracy theory, it might not have been true and I suspect all law-enforcement agencies Kneel on some peoples necks. She is an anti-Tory conspiracy theorist though
@@thegentleman4873 there was an amnesty report in 2016 that mentioned that certain American police departments were indeed receiving training from Israeli special forces. This comes after Amnesty highlights many human rights breaches carried out by the authoritarian Israeli government. I feel like thats the main reason to make the comparison.
Stephen Johnson Irrespective of what you say, Rebecca Long Bailey was STUPID in handing Boris and his mob a GIFT, a GIFT, to distract the British public from the grip of the Boris lunatic government with 62,000 or so excess deaths on their score card.
@@beegnutz 2 police departments were trained by Israel. None of which were Minneapolis PD. It simply is a conspiracy theory to claim that George Floyd's murder was linked to Israel.
I'm not surprised, Stephen. I wouldn't have wanted her in my shadow cabinet either.
It honestly amazes me that anyone can think this was a fair decision. To purposefully confuse criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism is cowardly and dangerous
They're a victim of the cancel culture they created.
@@funkinelle247 I've spent years warning progressives that overly broad "hate speech" laws will eventually be turned against them to silence critics of Israel. It already happened in France.
Little to do with Israel or anti semitism but all to do with using it as an excuse to cleanse the party of the hard Left Momentum cunts.
It's politics! 😂 being honest, truthful and genuine is not their way. Everything the crazy left promotes is dangerous, everything the crazy right promotes is dangerous. I wish we had moderates instead of nothing but crazies and a gaping hole where the moderate centrists used to be.
@CommandoVault it was a shared tweet with facts. Stop crying victim.
The dilution of the meaning of antisemitism is nearly complete.
Bit like racism then eh! It's the fault of the left in the first place by finding offense where there is none, you reap what you sew - the left has worked so hard at claiming things are offensive when they aren't and at last its caught up with them
Well, that's the sword of Damocles the far-left wanted with political correctness.
Anything taken out of context can be used against you.
Meaning doesn't matter, intention doesn't matter, nothing you do matters.
It was only a matter of time until it was turned on them.
Israel succeeded in changing the term anti semitism to the state so you are not allowed to criticise it.
@@margote7965 It's just not worth a politician's career to criticise Israel. They place their political futures on the line and must deal with Israel's many lobbies, pressure groups that are sure to come after them in an attempt to smear them "anti-Semitic". Notice Keir Starmer is strangely silent on the current land theft taking place on the West Bank (30% in one go by Israel). Yet he's politically astute enough to know firing Rebecca Long-Baily is beneficial to him as it plays excellently to the news crowd.
@@margote7965 Israel will lock up Jews too, for antisemitism for criticism of their own government
If you’re a public figure just maybe don’t use Twitter or engage in social media 🤷♂️
don't be sensible ....
The problem is these people whine about hate speech and constantly demand for speech to be regulated. Now the same hate speech argument is being used against them. They are being devoured by the monster they created long back.
10:57 the second he mentions Amnesty International - who have reported that Israeli security forces do train US police - she cuts him off
Very well spotted.
Amnesty denied that statement.
metro.co.uk/2020/06/26/amnesty-international-says-never-reported-israel-taught-neck-kneeling-us-12908591/
@@fironfiron8843 so they admit to literally making amends to the article, which *DID* report that US police trains with israelis, just to appease the zionist agenda,
but sure israel has no power over international politics lol
I’m sure the Israeli police has quite a knack for handling criminals.
@@Raksody
It was mainly seminars. There was one dept that did exchange program.
First of all there is no such thing as US police. Police in US are municipal responsibility, there is no national police. ICE, FBI, etc can't arrest people. US police is also not one, it is multiple dept and they have varying level of corruption.
Many of these dept did exchange programs and seminars with China , Russia and other as well as UK, Ireland,etc.
But that means nothing.
They need to define, and separate, anti-Semitism from criticism of Israel.
Yes, they have. Its called racism.
Agreed, but who are they? The labour party or those influencing them?
@@scubasausage oh so if someone criticisies the state of Israel, it makes them anti-semite? No wonder politicians take a blind eye on the illegal actions Israel has done, by occupying Syrian lands and needlessly killing Palestinians and colonising their land.
Got sacked for telling the truth! Nothing antisemitic about it at all!
Well done kier, clear the decks of these antiquated Neanderthals and their hatred.
It’s not about the sharing of the article, Keir needed an opportune moment to get rid of a Corbynite and he got it/took it. Probably didn’t help to have her in the shadow education job when that’s an area that BoJo has recently been attacking Keir with (eg when do teachers unions let teachers go back to school?). Now he’s free to insert somebody into a shadow education job who’s not so cosy with the unions
Totally agree
Why appoint her in the first place then?
Heaven forbid the Labour Party's education secretary support teacher's unions. It's almost as if the clue is in the name, isn't it? People who bash unions are vile, repulsive morons
Rule 13: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions".
keirs just making a statement
Terrifyingly psychopathic, but everywhere nowadays :'(
What is the target for the Fake News Media ? The White heterosexual male ?
From what I understand, she was sacked for linking to an interview with an actress who referenced US police training in Israel, right? Um... *WTF IS THE PROBLEM?!*
1) US police DO get training in Israel who DO use militarised/terrorising tactics. This is widely known and basic information for anyone who studies or follows US civil rights, liberties, police brutality, state budgets, equipment allocation, 'defense' spending etc.
2) It is madness that this needs saying but: *CRITICISING ISRAEL IS NOT THE SAME AS CRITICISING JEWS.* How is this so hard for people?! Allowing the conflation of Israel and Jews in general, only plays into the hands of ethnocentric politics! UGH! Its no better than white supremecists conflating their countries as "white."
This is nothing more than an excuse to sack someone a right-leaning Labor guy didn't want around.
I don’t believe that Rebecca Long-Bailey is an anti-Semite, as a Corbynite, I’m a fan of her, but you have to have a very basic understanding of the context.
This is a party that is plagued by vile anti-semitism, anti-semitism that is very often snuck under the guise of criticism of Israel, and a party that is desperate to get rid of said anti-semitism.
I’m critical of Israel, they have consistent human rights abuse and act in a very violent and neo-colonialist fashion to its neighbours.
But with all that context, when a high-profile frontbench cabinet member, one that is often held up as the torch-carrier for the old Labour (the same old Labour consistently criticised for anti-semitism), does something that is publicly called out and denounced by the Board of Deputies of British Jews as anti-Semitic...
You have to see that Starmer had to do something.
@@tadhgknight3484
how about the leader showing that he is strong enough and honest enough to condemnreal antisemitism.. and also stand firmly against an ethnocentric and vicious regime and all of its crimes within its own borders and involvement in crimes beyond its own borders..
There are people who have an issue with the political movement Black Lives Matter, which is a formed Maoist political group, but passionately support the philosophy that black lives matter.
@@tadhgknight3484 I still think its all an excuse, and I don't think Labor should bend to each and every complaint from Jewish groups and such. Even being called anti-semitic is being used a threat now - its overly toxic. Too many people are petrified of it and I can't help but think something else is going on here. This is bullying and I don't know why its happening. The last few years, its just come out of nowhere.
If I put a tin-foil hat for a moment, I'd say its right wingers both in and out of the Labor party (especially Tory controllers of the BBC and corporate media etc.) and right wing Jews (heaven knows what the politically correct way of saying that is) basically trying to cripple the left with their own sensibilities. They're basically killing off any true left in politics by reserving the ammo of "that's anti-semitic!!!" and they know the public at large and even some lefties with just go along with it. Again... something is going on here.
It’s not that straightforward though. The US police train in Israel yes. But they don’t learn specifically to pin someone by the neck from them in the way they did George. To attribute is death to Israel is ridiculous. It’s ultimately a dog-whistle - it subtly links back to the idea that somehow, Jews are the cause of all that is wrong via loads of sneaky arrangements with other countries and intelligence services. It isn’t true. RLB was an idiot for sharing it considering everything that has gone down. Even if it was disproportionate, which I don’t necessarily disagree with, Kier had to do something or risk the next election being all about anti-semitism, and lose. Convenient to get rid of the Corbynite, sure, but his hands were pretty tied if he wants to be taken as a serious contender for PM, which he absolutely should be.
"Please don't put words in my mouth" that's the bbc's job
Such BBC-bashers as yourself are normally pro-Brext, pro-Farage, anti-anyone who dares question. Which is the job of a decent broadcaster. Perhaps you'd prefer to pay the licence fee for Fox News. Then you wouldn't need to type anything at all.
How can you like the bbc?
Must work for them
When cancel culture bites the grifters in the arse
Ahmadillo
Yes, hahahahaha
@Gerry Berry how is that hypocritical? Its not like she's chosen capitalist UK over the communist UK. There were supporters of capitalism in the Soviet union, they weren't hypocrites for receiving wages from the state either.
yup
Praxis Alba a playbook doesn’t invent things 😂
@Gerry Berry She's born here and can hold any political opinion she wants.
The joy of democracy.
This just confirms for me why I am right not to watch the BBC.
Cancelled my TV licence 🤗
Right wing left wing same vulture
Back the national broadcaster. Say no to globalist corporations.
He had no choice but to make an example of her. She was stupid to go anywhere near anything that could have even the slightest hint of anything anti-semitic.
Don’t mention Jews, I mentioned them once but I think I got away with it
FREEDOM OF SPEECH BIENG ERRODED
Funnily enough neither Peake nor RBL mentioned Jews. And if it wasn't for the mistake of thinking the tactic of kneeling on necks was an Israeli police practise taught in seminars they might have got away with it. It is an unfortunate fact that a large contingent of the US police have been going to seminars by the Israeli police trainers for decades now. And not just the police but all forms of security, including immigration forces.
Yes we all need to watch our Ps and Qs. What was that Major
czcams.com/video/Ns0uRr6aPQE/video.html
This is why you crazies lost so bad and it was fun to watch.
The UK government seems to be under a lot of pressure not to criticize Israeli government...
Matt Wrack was attempting to discuss how one would make those comments without being anti semitic, yet he’s interrupted and told he’s not debating the topic. When the entire topic is about whether the comment was anti semitic or not.
The BBC is very slick and easy to listen to these days. But I’ll be damned if they ever have anything useful to say.
Hang on. You never complained about the anti BREXIT bias. Suits you sir.
Being anti-Brexit isn't bias, it's simply sanity. ;-)
Your wrong. This isn't an issue if Israel wasn't in tweet. The implication was VERY clear. Israel killed George Floyd. But even in the most charitable interpretation the tweet is basically an argument against militaristic policing and Israel fits into that where? So stop carrying water. You wanna talk about systemic racism then do it. You wanna talk about Gaza then do that. Don't conflate the two and then cry when it negates both.
@@thermidor5975 do you believe in democracy?
The discussion wasn't 'How could she have articulated this more appropriately?'.
The discussion is 'what did she say, was it true, and was it antisemitic?'
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Apparently that Labour "leader" doesn't even know the difference between antisemitism and criticising the state of Israel or some of their practices.
Apparently you think Cops in Michigan go on trips to Israel for training ?? Lets have some PROOF .. nah too inconvenient
Criticising them for something they didn't do. American cops are responsible for the death of George Floyd, why bring up Israel on that issue at all?
@@ninamimi6622 www.amnestyusa.org/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/
Weeding out Corbynist. Just Blairite taking back the party.
The notion that the US police need to learn such tactics from anyone is absurd. So why choose the Israelis?
Gavin Nash good
Gavin Nash yes Gavin, good to know you know fuck all about labour history
Good. At least with Blairites in charge Labour stands a chance of winning an election.
Rebecca far left. Maxine ex communist member. Go figure!!
This is only relevant in Westminster.
People living in the real world have real problems.
What an ignorant statement. What happens in Westminster significantly affects ordinary people's lives and problems.
And now the IDF are training British police force ... hmmm
British police are becoming a Para military force ... like in America
+The BBC decided the terms of the debate. How many times did the presenter interupt each speaker. Telling.
Where was the anti semitism, I don't see it.
For 0.4% of the population, the BBC certainly likes to give them key positions.
@Ewarton Charlton no, just the truth.
@Ben Davison what are we blind about?
@Ewarton Charltoncry baby
@Ewarton Charlton EVERYTHING IS RACIST.
LOOK EVERYBODY!
I found the racism.
Do I get a gold star from teacher?
we have been warned by Jesus rev 3:9 2000 years ago, now get ready for war against iran, they have found a shabos !!
This is madness
This is Labour
Ben McCabe
You clicked on a BBC page that signals in its title that it will feature discussion of the internecine convulsions of the Labour Party.
Madness pretty much guaranteed.
Keir Stormer: THIS - IS - S P A R T A A A A! (kicks Dim-Bailey into pit of nothingness) 👍
No 1 priority is what ? Oh dear we are truly lost.
How is the criticism of Israeli government antisemitism?
It is not, but they own the british government...
@Bunny Spangle Intent is now irrelevant. All criticism of Isreal is now classed as antisemitism by Zionists.
Keir Stamer being one of those.
When it is not backed up with specific evidence on the specific facts followed by wink , wink nudge tweets. Imagine I said fgm in the uk muslim community was taught to them by al qaida.
It is antisemitism to drag Israeli police to an appalling behaviour by a US policeman so that we can forget about the US police crime and shift our focus to Israel just because she hates Israel. It is a subtle distraction without giving any facts just because virtually everyone find the death of George Floyd a disgusting police behaviour.
Exactly, whats wrong w a BDS of the 51 Islamist supremacist apartheid nations that oppress Women, Gays, Christians, Minorities and Journalists? Start with PAKISTAN.
Kier just went up my estimation!
If you want to know by whom you are governed ask who you are not allowed to criticize.
Once upon a time, Labour was united against apartheid. What happened?
And here's the interviewer: 'Please don't put words in my mouth.' As she puts antisemitism into the mouths of anyone who opposes the racist apartheid state of Israel.
You can’t make a centrist omelette without breaking hard left eggs
hahahah 'centrist' - i don't think there is anything 'centrist' about getting rid of people whom worked to get the green new deal on the labour ticket.
Tom Wolland time to wake up and smell it Tom. Unless you can persuade a parliamentary majority to vote for it it’s never going to happen.
The argument was won. Won so much that Sir Kier has been mouthing off like he's going to bring it in when Labour get back in power. Also if the current Parliament majority wasn't persuaded by a green new deal's popularity then we wouldn't have this shirade being performed by BJ and Co. Face it the left provides and the right take. Its time for the left to stand up and kick back at Kier with a block leaving the party if RLB isn't reinstated.
@@tomwolland2447 Whom? I think you mean who. The best thing that could happen to the Labour party is for the extremists to leave. Lefty loonies have forever been trying to hijack the Labour party because the party is the only vehicle by which they can gain power through the back door.
@@Kaiserbill99 Yeh I did mean who. Semantics. Great....you call wanting a green new deal part of a left loonie agenda? Getting austerity argument won loonie? Piss off mate. The only loonies in the Labour party are people who think the party can only win by pandering to the mainstream media cycle and putting trust in capital and its interests over the people and the party. Your a sinyic mate, no heart and no ideas. Advocating to get rid of the one thing that makes us electable. To me your the extremist.
I am unashamedly on the left of the party but I know that under Jeremy and I say this without satisfaction, the party had wandered into a quagmire. After we gifted the election to Johnson I resigned my membership. Right or left, we need to understand that unswervingly pincipled commitment is utterly pointless without that we gain power. I'm 73 and I felt that I would die never knowing how another Labour Government would help the poor, the jobless, the discriminated against and the vast majority who have been dragged down by austerity
Keir Starmer had no option but to punish Long-Bailey. If not we would again be sucked down into that same quagmire and she must have known this when she set out to take on the new Party Machinery. She pushed the envelope and she, rightfully, was bitten as a result
While I did "Like" your comment I must make it clear that I do not necessarily endorse all of it. I can't actually see anything I disagree with, but you never know.
Well said. Stay well.
Really well put. My thoughts exactly.
I stopped voting Labour (And the left) because they didn't stop discrimination against minorities. As a disabled person I was put through the most horrific crime the week before under going brain surgery and it was allowed to happen for reasons of political correctness (I speak of it on my channel. If I comment on it it gets censored. A crime against me turns my criminal perpetrator into my victim. This is what the left-wing brought. It's shameful).
Voted Labour all my life but never, ever again.
Same here. Bunch of liars. They even tried to stop BREXIT and voted for freedom of movement with the world.
Same
liar you never voted labour
They may have wrongly invaded Iraq, privatised by stealth the NHS, indebted the country, made the country more dangerous, ignored Brexit but I will NOT have a labour MP question Israel - that is too much for me
@@thegaz15 They don't give a shit about the white working class. We're just cannon fodder to middle class Labour types.
Choke holds and kneeling are all part of restraint. No one has a copyright on that.
What has this got to do with the fire brigades union?
They seem racist as f.
They can put the fire out. Or pour petrol on it.
Wow, his arguments were terrible here. I generally agree with him: Criticism of Israeli tactics should not be considered antisemitic. And Rebecca Long-Bailey does not deserve to be fired or villainised for this, even if she was wrong. But he tried to derail the conversation and then accuse the host of not caring about racist violence.
my thoughts as well, they should stick to putting out fires, since when did firemen
get into politricks
everything u mong
it's true about the IDFs' training the Minneapolis in restraining techniques.
At this stage truth no longer matters in our political culture, just power and some groups are powerful enough to suppress all criticism.
someone needs to explain the difference between anti-zionism and anti-semitism
Spreading idiotic conspiracy theories that Israel is behind everything bad that happens is a very thinly veild form of antisemitism. We know why people think that and it's not fooling anyone.
Greenwood, in practice there is a big overlap. How can you want Jews to be powerless yet not be against them?
Rachel Reeves is still on the front bench...
Yeah I agree Rachel Reeves should be out of the cabinet for the whole Nancy Astor thing. but kicking someone out for celebrating the first woman to take a seat in Parliament could send the wrong message.
@@tadhgknight3484 no not really if you make the point that she's a massive anti Semite and a Nazi sympathiser
@@thepolticalone961 how about the tory islamophobia investigation all contenders promised?
@gespilk starmer has worked to rebuild trust of the jewish community and long bailey undermined it. plain and simple she had to go
@@thepolticalone961 are you a massive cry baby and snowflake?
I don't think a tweet is grounds to sack anyone. Having said that, Long-Bailey was a political rival, and had to go. Keir is our best chance of winning since Blair left., so powerful moves like this can show that he is wiling to be ruthless in the pursuit to become PM.
He is being over sensitive and has over reacted. I live in a community in North London and even many of my Jewish friends there are open with their criticism of `Israel’s political decisions. Look at the protests in Tel Aviv. Kier has hugely over reacted. She wasn’t making anti-Semitic statements, she was commenting about policy. Big mistake, Kier. You’ve over reacted.
But it’s not true, Israel are not to blame for someone kneeling on George floyds neck and killing him
Any such accusation can be used against Labour. If the leader ducks down at every time someone shouts an accusation, he'll be out of a party soon enough.
That news reporter was more argumentative than unbiased. i think thats a good example of how not to report the news
That's the BBC for you... You get less bias on the North Korean national news, with that woman with the squeaky voice
Can someone please explain to me how being critical of Israel soldiers is Anti-semitic. if the same artical was about Nigerian soldiers would it be racist to Black people?
because the conspiracy theory literally just is that they want to kill Muslims and that's what the article said
Does this mean that Ms Rebecca Long Bailey will NOT be rocking up on "Question Time" as she is on the way to obscurity just like Ms Laura Pidcock[Who/-another Corbynite,an EX-MP now sinking fast into obscurity]
caswallon1415 Pidcock must never darken the doors of Parliament again. Loud mouth tool. Useless.
The Left deserves this for growing identity politics in Britain
Wow you are so smart!
The great purge.
This must stop.
If Starmer continues like this, we're in serious danger of having an electable Labour party.
I misjudged him. Maybe he can be PM after all.
It's not great unless ice picks or makarovs are involved.
Time to route out the Loony Left leeches , hopefully only the beginning
If they want communism best they form a Communist Party.
@@gazlink1 i know kier might actually fix labour. God forbid
The most antisemetic thing about this is the assumption that
"Isreali" means all jews. Shameful
It’s like saying the actions of Saudi Arabia are decided by all Muslims, never mind Arabians. And that criticism of Saudi Arabia is inherently islamaphobic.
"Its a trick, we always use it..."
I think saying it was an anti-semetic attack is itself anti-semetic because of the very real association one has to make for 'Isreali'. I can live in Isreal as a Buddhist but then do i beome jewish when i live within it's borders?
@@tomwolland2447 Please learn to spell Israel. Its not hard.
I wonder if Jewish people who are critical of Israeli police or the government are anti-semitic, or is that permitted?
“...it isn’t the Jew - but rather the human being - who is the victim of anti-Semitism"
Opposing the Israeli apartheid state is *NOT* anti-Semitism. Sign the petition: www.change.org/p/keir-starmer-re-instate-rebecca-long-bailey
Also _ Keir Starmer doesn't care about Jews: he himself knowingly appointed an open right-winger and closet anti-Semite to his Shadow Cabinet: _
voxpoliticalonline.com/2020/04/05/outcry-as-starmer-promotes-anti-semite-supporter-rachel-reeves-into-shadow-cabinet/
@@thermidor5975Oh shit, momentum has entered the chat.
@@robertevans6418 yer yarmulke is showing !!
any excuse to get rid of a Lefty - shame on Starmer, he knows what he's REALLY doing
I'm not sure that the is 'No link' you can draw a decent correlation, though of course that isn't the same as causation. But grounds for intelligent supposition.
The BBC loves Starmer. Speaks volumes.
What a shame Kea Stamma didn't have his mighty knee jerk reaction when he headed the public prosecution office. If he did mayby Jimmy Savell could have been brought in front of a court to meet his accusers instead of been buried in max cliffords ,SAFE of SINNS.
Except his accusers weren’t vocal about it until AFTER Seville’s death (understandable given what the victims had been through). You can’t re-write history to suit your (somewhat twisted) narrative
@@johicks4573 No, he had been accused while alive, there was even a program about it. Maybe the vast majority of it came out after his death but it definitely had been brought up before then.
@@jimmynich4791 it’s true that some of Saville’s accusers went to the police about it at the time (1970s and 80s), and later on but they were a very small minority and they were ignored and belittled by the police. It never went higher than that until after his death.
@@johicks4573 If one person makes an accusation like that it should be enough to take it seriously. The fact that it wasn't to me says there was a problem with the system and not just the police should take it seriously but so should the BBC.
@@jimmynich4791 All accusations should be taken seriously, must be taken seriously - I never suggested otherwise.
What I’m saying is the accusations against Saville never made it past the police in the first place i.e. “the system” as you call it didn’t get to hear of them because the first stage of the system - the police - ignored them and did absolutely nothing about them.
And do you want to know why the police did nothing to help the victims? Because nobody listens to working class girls with troubled backgrounds who are on the margins of society. They have no power or right of redress because society doesn’t care about them and tells them they don’t matter.
So if you’re so concerned with the trauma of saville’s victims, why don’t you just go into social work, and help the most vulnerable in society to try and stop something like this happening again, instead of cravenly and disingenuously appropriating the suffering and misery of sexual assault victims to try and score some cheap political points off a politics (who‘a done nothing wrong in this instance), but who you simply don’t like.
Used as an excuse to get rid of her. Probably tested her to see if she’s willing to follow a simple instruction, she put her disagreeable. personality on full display and so he got rid of her. Don’t blame him to be honest, you can just tell she’d be nightmare to work closely with, let alone lead.
Absolute bollox, the enemy is Starmer and his right wing neo-liberal Blairite cronies czcams.com/video/-t4l0oZ72tc/video.html
We're not talking about criticism of "jews/Israelis", we are talking about criticism of the policies and tactics of the government of a foreign state, The State of Israel. Why is this anti-Semitic? I have never understood this.
Calling out The government of Saudi Arabia for its actions in Yemen is neither anti-Arab or Islamophobic. Questioning the Chinese government's 'reeducation' camps for muslims isn't somehow an attack of the Chinese people, their ethnicity or Confucianism. So what makes the Israeli Government so different?
Could someone please explain this to me?
(NOTE: I'm not a supporter of Corbyn or Long-Bailey and she must go, but for this reason?)
Emma Barnett completely shuts down this discussion once it gets into assessing whether there is a concern about police tactics and forces working together. Why is the question not asked whether criticising Israel is antisemitic? That’s the debate that is needed
How's it antisemetic?
its not, but thats irrelevant
Rule no.1 Never talk about Israel. Rule no2, Never talk about Zionism, Rule no.3 Never mention the jews.
It is anti-Semitic because the blame for poor policing tactics worldwide is stated to have originated with the Israeli police
It is antisemtic to drag Israeli police to an appalling behaviour by a US policeman so that we can forget about the US police crime and shift our focus to Israel just because she hates Israel. It is a subtle distraction because virtually everyone find the death of George Floyd a disgusting police behaviour.
Creating a conspiracy theory that Israel is somehow to blame for George Floyd's death, how can you not see that? Why bring Israel into something totally unrelated? Maybe because someone has an agenda about blaming things on Jews? Kinda like the right when they blame immigration or BLM on George Soros
Starmer is a yes man for a tiny tail that wags a big dog, shame on him
It wasn’t a conspiracy
How is it that I cannot mention a certain group of people without it being taken down?
The idea that the public are forced to pay for this false bollocks
The title for start saying it's a antisemitic conspiracy
And now we have found thanks to Al Jazeera that the BBC Panorama were as bent as a dogs back leg.
I can't make sense of this world anymore...
BBC being neutral as ever. Not.
I agree. Too sympathetic towards the Labour Party.
hgostos What a joke, you just have to see how they handled the last election to see the BBC are not Labour supporters.
@@hgostos BBC and all MSM absolutely SLANDERED labour (and the third parties) in last year's election
@@liamgaine Thank you for sharing your opinion.
Left eating itself brilliant
Preserving moral integrity in your party is something the right will never understand.
The fire brigade union? Why not ask the lollipop lady?
Is this a Labour Party political broadcast by the BBC?
We still do NOT have a Leader that represents the People. Never Have, Never Will
The focus on Robert Jenrick was playing too well for Labour so Starmer chose to gift this nonsense to the right wing media.
Good clip 👍👍👍! As a current CZcamsr, I am always looking for fresh ideas! Good Job!
They lost Scotland, the Labour Party is over..
the US moan about a two party system. The UK have a one party system
This has been totally taken out of context.
what for the 100th time
Pancho
You know you can say whatever you want about Palestinians or Palestine but God forbid you should ever say anything about a Jew or Israel that’s offensive and criminal
(What) a real labour leader times have changed.
Her liking the tweet was a gift to kier starmer.
I am surprised that the ongoing scandal regarding the Housing Minister and the Property Developer has not yes come into to sights of M/s Long-Bailey.
Can you criticise Israel at all without being called anti-Semitic? If not, that's a problem...
Critic all you want. Don't spread lies. Israelis lives matter too.
Of course you can.
Next day you lose your job and everything else you have, because your boss is pressured by some rich Zionist who thinks he owns you because of something you said that he didn't like.
@@Gritt999 Ugh people like you are precisely the reason we can't have a proper conversation... shut up!
Didn't she give JC 10 out of 10 for a brilliant 2019 Election campaign?
-10 out of 10 would have been more appropriate
She'll have a new position tomorrow
Why does the BBC pay weird low music?
So no criticism of Israel at all is allowed is it just Israel or is there any other country as well
Bad move from Starmer on this. It's not anti-semitic, it may or may not be factually incorrect in regards to police training, but that is not anti-semitic.
3:25 WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE HE SPEAKS OF? .. THIS SILENT SHADOW AGREEMENT SCREAMS CORRUPTION
Keir Starmer should go, and Louise Ellman should never come back!
So its antisemetic to accused israel of tactics in police force? Everyone are snowflakes looking for drama, grow up
Hilarious. They bring this upon themselves, and they have learned nothing.
spot on fighting each other is comical.
When will you build up trust with others who are getting bullied all the time
13:07 I know he says due, but it coincidentally sounds like...."any JEW process"
Voted biased newsnight down 👍🌹
#defundtheBBC
Beeb propaganda
Shouldn't we also hear from Starmer's campaign donor Trevor Chinn on this matter? Good to know where our politicians are coming from.
She shared an article that had an ANTIZIONIST conspiracy theory. NOT an ANTISEMETIC statement. I understand why he had to act the way he did.... but please call it what it is.
Rebecca Long Bailey was sacked because she was popular and a potential threat to his leadership in the future. I wish her well.
Opposing the Israeli apartheid state is *NOT* anti-Semitism. Sign the petition: www.change.org/p/keir-starmer-re-instate-rebecca-long-bailey
Also _ Keir Starmer doesn't care about Jews: he himself knowingly appointed an open right-winger and closet anti-Semite to his Shadow Cabinet: _
voxpoliticalonline.com/2020/04/05/outcry-as-starmer-promotes-anti-semite-supporter-rachel-reeves-into-shadow-cabinet/
Starmer is simply paying lip service to the anti-semitism issue within the Labour Party. I don’t believe Long_Bailey did a great deal wrong. Put it this way, there are undoubtedly a few hundred less palatable individuals within our good House.
Imagine having a credible and efficient Government and Opposition 😔
Disgraceful behaviour from the so-called journalist. Even more virulent than Ellman!
Rebeccka you failed to follow the basic shadow cabinet's direction. There was time to try to modify the shadow cabinet's direction of thought via lobbying & other moves. However you missed this option by a country mile & instead went for an 'instant' undermining approach which was clearly a failed strategy. Who guided you to this odd selection?
The sacking doesn't seem an overreaction to me.
I read the piece in the Indie... The Israel reference was awkward, it stood out, it smacked slightly of trying to get two birds with one stone. It was baseless.
Secret services do not hold seminars with the domestic police forces of foreign powers, even foreign powers who underwrite all their costs.
Peake was daft to tack that onto her interview and make herself sound a bit tin-foli-hat David Icke fodder.
I am sure she is not, but she might consider how things will read before offering them to the press.
Following that, RLB was not smart to tweet a link. Spectacularly not smart.
Had she read the article and thought the Israel reference trivial? Mistake.
Had she seen that it was an M Peake interview and linked without reading it? Mistake.
RLB was not a town councillor or even a backbencher... She was a member of the Shadow Cabinet.
Why Peake would speak confidently to a national paper on a topic where her passion and opinions trump her grasp is a mystery.
Why RLB would spread that further, I cannot fathom.
RLB is powerfully supported and will bounce back. That may or may not be a good thing.
I write this as a Liberal who nonetheless finds in KS a potential for national unity and harmony I have not felt since John Smith was leader.
The Bollox Broadcasting Corporation. Ha Ha!
Not that I like her at all but my God. This is a complete joke!
And by article with anti-Semitic conspiracy theory you mean an article in the popular mainstream British paper The Independent.
Good point. Why is no one questioning the Independent for spreading anti-semitic fake news?
Her reputations is torn to shreds
BBC and the Labour Party. As odious as ever.
Golly!