Great information, channels need to expand this more. Thank you for your content. You personally help me with my noise floor in my system by providing me with this type of content
Just a few thoughts...I thought that spiking a speaker box keeps the box stable and keeps it from rocking back and forth with the pistonic speaker cone motion. Controlling vibration from the box resonance comes from the density of the box and the damping material inside. The demonstration with the music box might be illustrating the effect of both having a boundary in close proximity to bounce and amplify the original sound of the music box, as well as the resonance of the boundary vibrations itself putting its own sound into the room (independent of the origina sound). I'd be very interested in your own experience at home with these products.
Whether we couple or decouple the speaker, the cabinet itself will vibrate the same. The music box mechanism tines are heard only when coupled to material it can transfers energy to and cause to move, which in turn causes the air to move. The whole table moves and couples with a lot air, which why we cannot hear it alone and only moving a tiny amount of air.
Jason, we need to get an expert opinion about this. I've seen his demonstration three times now, and it doesn't make sense. He seems to be claiming that that huge increase in volume when he sets it on the table is the result of the TABLE VIBRATING. Just think about that. How much vibration is that tiny little music box (which is only producing very high frequencies) going to cause in a table like that, and how LOUD would such extremely tiny vibrations actually be? Isn't it WAY more likely that the increase in volume is due to those high frequencies bouncing off of a very reflective surface?? In which case, when he puts his product underneath the music box, it's not that his product is preventing the table from vibrating; it's that his product is just preventing the high frequencies from reaching the table and bouncing off of it. I wouldn't be surprised if that music box is throwing most of its sound wave downward (maybe this is why it was chosen for demonstration purposes). And if that's the case, there's nothing special about his product! You could create the same effect using any material that absorbs high frequencies -- a sponge for example. And putting this underneath a speaker is not going to have the same startling effect, because obviously you're not targeting high frequency reflections when you put decouplers (or couplers) under your speakers.
@@curioustraveler1390 no worries. I would love to hear an expert's take on this. There's no way that the vibrations from the table are producing that sound.
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He is absolutely right!
This is a very, very true explanation. Decoupling is the way to go.
Good explanation on why your default approach should be decoupling!
Great information, channels need to expand this more. Thank you for your content. You personally help me with my noise floor in my system by providing me with this type of content
Very interesting. Thanks
Townshend seismic tech under speakers makes midfi surpassing a lot of high end... thatâs my 2 cent
Just a few thoughts...I thought that spiking a speaker box keeps the box stable and keeps it from rocking back and forth with the pistonic speaker cone motion. Controlling vibration from the box resonance comes from the density of the box and the damping material inside. The demonstration with the music box might be illustrating the effect of both having a boundary in close proximity to bounce and amplify the original sound of the music box, as well as the resonance of the boundary vibrations itself putting its own sound into the room (independent of the origina sound). I'd be very interested in your own experience at home with these products.
Whether we couple or decouple the speaker, the cabinet itself will vibrate the same.
The music box mechanism tines are heard only when coupled to material it can transfers energy to and cause to move, which in turn causes the air to move. The whole table moves and couples with a lot air, which why we cannot hear it alone and only moving a tiny amount of air.
Tom Gibbs at Positive Feedback wrote a highly favorable review of these decouplers. Unfortunately, for many of us the cost is prohibitive.
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Have you tried any of Herbiesaudiolab products?
Whatâs the name of the decoupling product?
Jason, we need to get an expert opinion about this. I've seen his demonstration three times now, and it doesn't make sense. He seems to be claiming that that huge increase in volume when he sets it on the table is the result of the TABLE VIBRATING. Just think about that. How much vibration is that tiny little music box (which is only producing very high frequencies) going to cause in a table like that, and how LOUD would such extremely tiny vibrations actually be? Isn't it WAY more likely that the increase in volume is due to those high frequencies bouncing off of a very reflective surface?? In which case, when he puts his product underneath the music box, it's not that his product is preventing the table from vibrating; it's that his product is just preventing the high frequencies from reaching the table and bouncing off of it. I wouldn't be surprised if that music box is throwing most of its sound wave downward (maybe this is why it was chosen for demonstration purposes). And if that's the case, there's nothing special about his product! You could create the same effect using any material that absorbs high frequencies -- a sponge for example. And putting this underneath a speaker is not going to have the same startling effect, because obviously you're not targeting high frequency reflections when you put decouplers (or couplers) under your speakers.
Edgar would be a good person to ask about this.
Hey Mike, I just read your comment right after I posted mine. You basically wondered the same thing! Sorry, didn't mean to copy!
@@curioustraveler1390 no worries. I would love to hear an expert's take on this. There's no way that the vibrations from the table are producing that sound.
You are absolutely right, I think he is selling snake oil.
+1
@audiophilejunkie your boy Norman has to answer his emails! Trying to buy some of those EVPs but have some website concerns.
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Youâre the man Norman! EVPs arrived and work wonderfully!
FYR - Stole the music box demo from Lawrence Dickie with Vivid Giya speaker demos. Look it up.
What company is this?
AV RoomService
Spikes are so 1980.