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- Six year old Paige has never had a full night’s sleep and since her birth, neither has her mum.
Paige has never slept a full night in her own bed and Mum hasn’t had more than four hours uninterrupted sleep in more than six years.
She used to insist on getting into Mum’s bed during the night, but now she refuses to even try to sleep in her own bed and will scream and kick until she gets her own way. What can Jo do?
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I felt so bad for Paige's sister who she shares a room with. All that screaming constantly probably makes a very frustrated and sleep deprived child
Exactly. And if Jo was a better professional, she’d bring it up.
What a fraud.
Strange that the mother never put a hidden camera in the girls bedroom to see if anyone was entering and doing anything to them.
Not necessarily. A tired little kid can sleep through a lot of stuff. The younger sister isn't showing any signs of sleep deprivation - no crankiness, etc.
@@merryhunt9153 Sleep through yes, but that's ONCE they are asleep. I know I slept through lots when I was little. But its very hard to FALL asleep when your sister is screaming and crying from the moment they're put to bed. When I stayed at my cousins who would scream like that it was impossible to fall asleep- and I slept through a bomb scare at an army camp when I was little haha
Or she's the Best Sleeper Ever.... used to all kinds of noises 😴
My mum was late with kicking me out of her bed. She was a single mum since I was two months old and I think it comforted her. I remember she left me a letter on my bed when I was about 6, half way through my first year of school. I still have it. She said that she was so tired since she had to pull my elbows and knees out of her nose every morning and I remember laughing a lot about that. She explained gently that it was time for me to sleep in my own room and I don't remember if I fussed about it, but after that day it was the way it was. I loved her soft approach and I understood what she said and that she needed her own space. I wish I was able to ask her how I actually reacted. I miss her..
This is so sweet. 💞
I want an episode where she speaks to parents of teenage boys about how they view girls, and what they teach them about girls.
... PLUS their g.ddamn responsibility to use condoms for the girl's AND their own sake!!!
A great idea!
She found condoms in a young american lad's room & got the.conversation started
Perfect! Very good idea.
That's a great idea!
The mother hosting a makeup party for these young girls, then on camera explaining her concerns that "the girls nowadays are growing up to fast". Um, okay?
The whole show is a joke!
@@pluspunkt5512 no the stupid mothers are a joke.
@@pluspunkt5512 some of the parents are a joke, not the show
Make up is okay so long as it is used in moderation and you've explained that it is just for fun and not something that they need to do.
@@jordangann7438 I agree, but only if my daughter is old enough and mature enough to understand this.
12, as in this this, is just way too young.
My mom allowed me to experiment with makeup at that age, and all it did was encourage me to get more attention from boys, and start to become way too self aware.
Young girls don't need to be focusing on their sex appeal or appearance at that age. It does things to them physiologically and definitely does stirr up certain types of emotions and behaviors.
I mean, there may be the small exceptions here and there where girls play with it one time during dress up and then leave it alone, but generally speaking that is usually not the case.
umm "sneaking into clubs since the age of 10". How does a mother actually allow this? To me allowing a ten year old to go clubbing is child abuse.
Parents are exhausted at night and are sound asleep! They have to get up for work at the crack of dawn. It’s not that hard for kids to sneak out. I did it as a teen.
@@lessehead please if i snuck out to go clubbing at a young age that would be the last time i snuck out my parents didn't let crap like that go by so actually it isn't easy to sneak out and my dad worked long hours at a hospital
@@All_will_be_revealed It depends on the family’s circumstances! I never got caught.
How did she get in the club? I don’t know about England, but in Germany you have to show passport if it’s not absolutely obvious that you’re over 18. I was asked for mine until my late 20s because I didn’t look very mature
England has clubs for teens 13+, 16+ etc
Allowing your 10-13 year old child to wear literal lingerie and sneak into older teenage clubs with older guys is child abuse plain and simple.
If I had a daughter and she was dressing like that she would not be leaving the house at all ! don’t understand why parents allow their daughters to dress like that at such a young age and not do anything about it do they not realise there’s dangerous people out there that pray on young lasys for sex ?
It's not abuse. Sometimes, the moms get confused. They want to be perceived as cool. They try to be their child's friend, not the authority in the home, the mom. While I don't think the mother is making good choices or thinking about the possibility of danger, I don't think it's abusive. I think it's unfortunate but at worst, it's neglectful and short sighted. Why not teach her about what's inside & why that's what really attracts the right people? Plus they're 13, they shouldn't be trying to get guys to pay attention to them. They should be doing their school work and still figuring who they're to become in this life. They should be at home. It's awful but I don't think it rises to abuse. Just saying! ❤️
@@liz090833 Neglect is abuse
@@liz090833 but her mums not confused she knows what her daughter is doing and to even let her dress like that is not acceptable at all she’s not doing her daughter any favours at all letting her dress like that
The cops need to get involved
Jo is a gift! She’s so down to earth, smart, kindhearted, and doesn’t take crap from anyone. A BLESSING to families everywhere!
Oh please.
@@marialiyubman girl please you spend too much hours replying in comments. Get some rest
❤
@@marialiyubman You must be miserable, replying to pretty much every single comment about how much you hate Jo. What did she ever do to you? Maybe you need to sleep in mum's bed too, get some rest lol.
32 attempts. My Lord, I would have just given up. Strong mum!
that's the only way to make a change
Soya (the 13 year old going to 16+ clubs) ended up getting pregnant at 15.. there's a few articles online and the mother was just thrilled at the fact the baby would mean they'd get a bigger council house. I get the whole 'letting your children be independent' ethos but there's something about the mother allowing her daughter to be in those situations that seems exploitative and almost neglectful? There doesn't seem to be a natural instinct to protect? 🤦🏻♀️
Also concerning that Soya mentioned dabbling with alcohol at such a young age as she got charged with drink driving a few years ago too 😳
That’s probably what her mother wanted all along. She knew she was exposing her daughter to being used and abused but didn’t care as long as she didn’t have to deal with her daughter ‘having a mood’. And she was probably living vicariously through her daughter doing all the things that she never did as a teenager. It’s neglect.
Minors aren't "independent". It's just an excuse shitty ass parents use to cover the fact that they are way too permissive and unable to properly raise a child.
It was obvious that it was going to happen.....I feel sorry for the baby.
Its truly sickening!
I was totally worried, that this is where she was heading. Sorry to hear that it came to that. I've lived in the UK for almost 6 years and never understood this attitude of so many British girls and women to dress like prostitutes. Seriously what I saw my first hen night in Brighton I said to my British friend: I'm surprised that prostitution is legal in the middle of the town centre. He laughed and said it was a hen night. On the other hand, if women wouldn't be as forward as they are in Britain, the population would drop considerably. British men are crap at flirting.
@@oliviahafner561 ahahah. Your last thoughts are so funny! In the UK they want to be parents very early. Very funny culture
Wondering how the younger sister processes the older sister screaming, etc...
Right???? They share a room like?
She will take the quiet child role
Wondering why the mother never put a hidden camera to see if anyone was entering the girls room to bother them or abuse them
This show is the most effective birth control available!!
You're not wrong. I'm glad I opted for beer, playstation and cats instead.
Lol
Working in retail is definitely another form of birth control. Witnessing the crotch goblins, leading their parents. Screaming, running around and touching every fucking thing in the store. Yelling until they get what they want and the parents giving in.
Side note, I am not referring to fussy babies, that’s normal. What’s not right, is a five year old screaming and pitching a fit over let’s say ice cream, because the flavor(s) at home aren’t good as enough.
Yup I chose no children.i know I made the right choice for me when i watch these shows lol
I am with you guys is so many girls broke up with me bc I didn't wanted kids I am fine without kids they are horrible and nightmare yes you get some love back from it but the price pay in return don't equals it my cat gives me more love and she dnt throw tampers and I enjoy more with her than I would with a kid....
As a mom myself, I remember asking my parents twice to watch my son over night when he was still an infant. I remember just how tired my mom looked the next day, and promised I wouldn't do that again. My parents already raised their kids. So I felt bad for paige's grandma. She handled it so well though.
What a sweet grandmother
Why they never discussed why Paige doesn't want to sleep alone?! Like what's causing soo much anxiety?!
Goofs: There’s 1 scene where Paige’s hair is wet after the bath, and when the 41st attempt came, her hair is dry, maybe she had it blow dried, probably not
Mum and grandma did so bloody well!
Congratulations to them both, and to the little girl, Paige, for finally self soothing.
No one asked why she did it in the first place. Jo is such a fraud…
She’s probably sleeping with mom because she needs more attention and she hates her little sister because the smaller children always get more attention. There’s no father in the household so she needs mom. Instead Jo tells mom to drag her daughter into her bed all night long, creating even more hatred for that place.
So stupid.
8 out of 10 parents struggle to get their kids to sleep
Paige's mother has had enough and the relationship with her daughter is not a secure attachment. It is totally understandable for an exhausted parent and child seeking a bond to duel like in this episode. If parents don't do something about the behaviour early on the relationship can be harmed.
Why do you say it is not a secure attachment?
Interesting to note that Paige intimated that the only 'snuggle time' she got with Mum was in bed. Even on the couch, reading a bedtime story, they are just sitting side-by-side ...
No one has even thought about how much sleep the younger child was getting
That’s because Jo is a fraud 🤷♀️
@@marialiyubman lol
@@marialiyubmanno judgement from me I’m just very curious on your opinion. Why do you feel she is a fraud?
@@survivingtheinternetsarahg1205*silence*
for the underage girl, alert the venues...and have law enforcement talk to them about criminal child endangerment charges for letting underage kids in
I love Jo. She understands and sympathises with all perspectives while still keeping strong which in turn keeps struggling parents strong.
Most children grow out of sleeping in their parents’ bed by age 3
this taught me alot.
If you're firm on protecting your own boundaries, eventually. Something will change, I might need to try it 42 times, but it'll change eventually.
I haven’t heard Jo explain why she doesn’t encourage talking & communicating further with children having extremist type behavior issues.
It has been taught to me that often such children often seek an increase of creative attention and don’t know how to be heard by the parent, thus, they act out, meanwhile the parent may be overlooking the cues that the child does give them peacefully .
Jo teaches primarily, in such cases, that the behavior itself must be changed ‘asap’.
I can’t help but wonder if all the drama would be lessened if meaningful communication regarding the troubling behavior, it’s hurtful effect on all involved, and the benefits of a good behavior instead, were to be substantially increased while teaching the child the new change in behavior that is now being expected.
The child, then might grow in understanding of the good, trusting her parent and choose to make a happier choice without that much hysteria.
So true! I remember when my daughter was 3 years old and was getting up out of bed constantly. I used Jo's method and will never forget counting 43 times I did it over 2 hours without speaking a word or making any eye contact. She eventually gave in, stayed in bed,went to sleep and NEVER did it again. I am so glad I hung in there, kept calm and focused. It works if you stick to your guns! XX👍🇬🇧
@@doneliatonk7946 that's kinda like explaining the good to smokers, drinkers, drug addicts. Nevermind that everyone knows it's bad, the habit is stronger. If you explained it once to the child and they understood, more doesn't help. At some point the girl wired in her brain, that it's only secure and nice in the parents bed. Maybe when the parents split the mom even enjoyed the cuddling for some time and it all manifested into a bad habit that is driven by the unconcious mind mostly, so talking dies not help.
@@doneliatonk7946 there is only so much explaining you can do, at a certain point with some kids it just becomes a delay tactic to not do the thing you want eg go to bed.
I feel so sorry for paiges sister....My greatest respect to her to never punched her when paige is crying all night.
Lmao she's probably too tired to do that
Exactly what i'm thinking. If i was her, i would have slapped her until she's too tired to keep up.
I say if the mom can't slap her, let the little sister express how annoyed she is by slapping her
Yeah i'm bit violent with children even though i'm 14. Even at 8 a hated brats
30 attempts to get her to bed could have been replaced with one smack.
The neighbors having to listen to someones screaming child every night? I feel for them. That child is way too old to act like that. She has a sister to share a room with for goodness sake!
Are we sure she is not just a little brat? She’s not scared, she’s having tantrums
Bad parenting, not enough attention and probably needing a dad in the home.
Instead they’re playing a drag-game.
Poor baby just wanna sleep with mommy in one room. Is this a problem in America? I mean not every child need this, but when I know my child need this then I let it be.
@@genevievefolmerr97 aren‘t they in Britain?
@@teresat52 oh yeah sorry, it's in Britain.
How is Paige not extremely exhausted herself? Throwing a tantrum and crying so much for such a long time surely takes a lot of energy... I also feel bad for her sister, she's just trying to sleep in peace.
I’ve not watched it yet but I know I was Paige’s age 50 years ago and I always wanted to sleep with my parents. I could never tell them why but it was pure fear of the night because my friends and I had watched a kidnapping programme on tv. I was convinced that someone was going to take me away and I was unable to express my fear as I thought it would make it a reality.
🤦♀️
@@djjones7039 what's your problem?
Even animals are sleeping together, why do children need to sleep alone ??? I can't watch this poor child screaming in panic. My children slept with me for years....everybody happy
When I was a young parent, I learned that most struggles with my kid were battles of attrition and if I were more stubborn - I would come out the victor. I'd take all my frustrations and anger at the circumstance and fuel it into pure stubbornness to not let the child best me.
Yep. But most parents give in. 🙄 You made a believer out of your kids! Well done! This little girl knows if she cries hard enough Mommy will cave.
@@ashlieleavelle + Right. Not only is she getting what she wants by sleeping in Mum's bed, she's learned to use tears & emotion to manipulate. Which is a very unhealthy relationship dynamic, she could grow up to use with a partner. And poor Poppy is left out.
I don't have children yet, but I am practicing this already with my very stubborn cat 😂 She wants to always bend the rules and I never give in but she still has to give it a try every now and then. Good practice for sure for when I hopefully do get to be a mom.
One of the big issues is that parents need to realize they are not raising children, they are raising adults.
As a 16-year old girl, I do see a rise of girls dressing more “grownup.” I partly blame the parents. I think kids only do what you allow- so if you allow them to wear whatever(in terms of adult clothing and makeup) don’t be shocked when they do🤷🏾♀️. I think my parents have a good balance with me. They let me express my style and dress cute while still looking like an appropriate and modest teen. I wouldn’t say totally restrict your child from wearing stuff, but explain to them why they should wait on certain things. And even when they are at the age to wear makeup, go out with them to a makeup store and show them what to look for and teach them how to wear it appropriately. That just makes it exciting and like a coming-of-age experience☺️
Girl if u r truly 16 u need to show this to ya parents they Deserve an Emmy award for real they should feel proud of themselves and you should too because you sound like a very well mannered 16-year-old girl stay strong we need more teenagers like you and more parents like yours thanks
@@tanxic7814 Thank you so much!! I really appreciate my parents because I know they truly want the best for me- so I guess I’m just a product of my environment. I know many kids don’t have the opportunity to experience being in a healthy and happy 2 parent home (especially my fellow Black people😔), so I’m honestly just grateful!! Anyway- sorry for the ramble but thank you so much and have a great day/night❤️
I’m sorry to hear that 16 year olds are still being taught to dress and use words like ‘modest’ I honestly hoped that my generation would be the last to have to go through this. Teenage girls shouldn’t be worried about dressing ‘modestly’ in fact no one should have to. Clothing is about expressing yourself and being comfortable, not to conform to silly patriarchal ideals of femininity instead of relying on individuality and feminism to choose your style.
@@dollinterrupted Hi there! I do get to choose my style and what I wear- as long as it’s age appropriate. So I’m “modest” in that sense. I like my style. It makes me feel comfortable and cute. My parents don’t rule over me with an iron-fist, where I can’t show any skin- I can, but I just have be age appropriate.
Nothing with me dressing like that has to do with ‘conforming to femininity.’ It’s okay to dress your age. Somethings are just too mature for children. People are quick to say minors 18 and under are children, but get upset when we dress accordingly (like our respective ages). Girls get shamed for not being modest and being modest so it’s really just a lose-lose situation.
Also, as much as I agree that girls and women should be able to wear what they want without harassment from men- that’s just not the world we live. Even dressing modestly and looking like my age, I still get unwanted attention- some men are just creeps and I just have to protect myself from them.
@@keep.scrolling3605 so you dress modestly and you still get harassed by men. That proves my point. Dress for yourself, wether that be ‘modest’ or not, men are going to harrass us no matter how we dress so let’s stop assigning blame to ourselves when they act out of line. I’m happy you like the way you dress, that’s literally the goal for everyone at the end of the day. When we perpetuate oppressive concepts like ‘girls need to dress modestly or men won’t treat them right’ we shift them blame from men to the way we dress and that’s a problem. We also use this concept to demonize, sexualize and dehumanize the girls that don’t want to dress for men, wether that be ‘modestly’ or not.
When jo puts her hair back the kids are in trouble. Mum or dad is going to have the best support. The kid/s stand no chance. Jo is awesome. We all need a Jo.🥰
That 13 year old is putting herself in so much danger without even realising it. There have been times at the age of 18 where I had to physically get guys to leave me alone. At 13 if some guy gets it in his head to follow her for he bathroom she will stand no chance.
She got pregnant at 15 and her mum was stoked to be getting a bigger council house out of it. Real shame
@@nicanz1500How do you know this?
@nicanz1500 Not to mention child support, and benefits.
I'm just watching and Paige is exhausting me 😩😫 i can't imagine how the other little girl feels.
My kids only slept in my bed when they were really ill. They had their room and their own bed. I was finer than I could possibly have been with even more sleep deprivation as I already had - fully breastfeeding. As a consequence of me being fine the rest of my family also was fine. The well being of mums for the well being of the whole family is strongly underestimated!
For a 6 year old 9 pm is perhaps already too late - the stage of tiredness perhaps already skipped....
I was a child who didn't sleep. Of course I don't remember toddler age but from 3 on I went to bed, I just didn't go to sleep. If it was a night my parents were watching late night TV I would sneak out of my room and tuck myself behind the sofa and listen to the Tonight Show. When they got up to go to bed they sometimes noticed me and sent me off to bed, but I was pretty good at hiding. I can remember many nights when I was 6 and 7 when I stayed up all night, wandering around the house
I feel like Paige has anxiety. I used to act like that as a kid when I was having a panic attack. Unfortunately, no one realized that’s what was going on, and I still have anxiety to this day. Finally I’m on meds to control it, but I had battles with it all the time growing up.
Paige is perfectly fine just being a freaking spoiled brat
I’m guessing she had nightmares
Just think how that sister must have struggled silently....
Same. And the fact that Jo didn’t say anything proves she’s a fraud.
I feel bad for Paige because she is so helpless. She must be scared of something maybe like ghost or something with her imaginations. Paige needs someone to stay with her until she feel like yes I can maybe if I try.
As a single parent i know how difficult it is when you have no support and have to be the father and mother at the same time. I feel for all of them but special foe the mom.
Oh dear mamma I admire you. That was such an incredible challenge; particularly being in your own.
Joe didn’t ever see you as weak; she knows how mommies can be roped in by their babies.
That took so much hard work and determination. I don’t know that I could have done it.
You did your child a service and she is and will be better for it.
Kudos to you.😊
I'm shocked at some of the children's behavior! My parents never would have accepted this and neither would my husband and I.
I slept in my mum’s bed for a long time and it definitely wasn’t good for me. My parents went to the doctor with me and he said I would sleep in my own bed eventually once I was ready. That was a mistake. To me it felt like I just couldn’t sleep in my own bed, I also simply never learned to be alone at night and therefore I was very scared. I only started sleeping in my own bed when I was about 14 and it took a lot of willpower to get used to it. It also happened very gradually. For years before and after that I struggled having sleepovers with my friends or going on class trips because I just felt like I couldn’t fall asleep anyway. Sleeping was never and it still isn’t an easy topic for me. It’s much better now but improved the most since I solo travelled and even more once I moved out. I’m in my mid 20s now and my sleep quality is much much better but I still struggle sometimes when my partner isn’t around. My parents and I never speak about it anymore but I wish they would have set boundaries when I was still a child because I feel like it would have helped me a lot to train my sleep in earlier years. I was probably an extreme case but I just think a few hard weeks getting used to sleeping on my own could have been very beneficial.
I was in a very similar situation. I even slept in a bed in my parents rooms until I was an embarrassing 16 (and I moved in with my first partner at 17)🤦🏽♀️ I have been extremely consistent as a parent on kids sleeping in their own beds at night, because I have never developed the ability to actually have a restful night sleep alone. I have to have a light and a tv on. 😂
People don’t realize the long term effects.
I was 14 too. I would wake up in the middle of the night (due to sleep apnea, so heart is already racing), hear a noise, try to calm myself down, then my anxiety would creep in telling me someone broke in, alert the parents.
Later my mom and I had an after school/work ritual of watching crime TV in her bed till we fell asleep.
The waking up in the middle of the night thing was solved with melatonin and anxiety meds.
This was in the 90s, 2000s early 2010s and today would have been caught earlier by doctors and counselors as anxiety is being diagnosed earlier now and mental health issues are more acknowledged.
I can sleep alone, though I prefer with a pet, and white noise machine. Sleep problems are apparently are apparently common in the neurodivergent community and those with anxiety.
I don't blame my parents as it runs in my family apparently.
Your poor repressed parents!
Thank you for sharing, this helps those of us with little ones
i never got to sleep in my parents bed at night my dad didn't allow it no matter if we even had a nightmare
I feel for the neighbours who have to suffer through this screaming sleepless child. Geez.
The poor sister!!!!!
I feel so,bad for the little sister
As a young teen, im really happy my mom encourages me to live out my childhood while still treating me maturely (because in her words i have a very mature mindset and thought process for my age in a good way), i absolutely love legos and puzzles, i still have stuffed animals, and i still do alot of things that society would deem childish but it doesn’t bother me at all. Im happy just being a kid and not missing out on a childhood. I think the only a bit overly mature thing i do is wear clothes that are a bit older than my age but honestly most of it is pretty modest and really not that bad, I usually like wearing baggy-ish jeans with shirts (never anything sleeveless or tight), i like cargos and long floral dresses, im not allowed to wear shorts, crop tops, or anything even slightly revealing so the way i dress isn’t really that bad anyways. I just really wish that more young teens/kids would do the same and just live out their childhoods. I don’t think growing up too fast is fun. I appreciate my mom so much for always looking out for me, having strict but good rules, and just being there for me. I think alot of parents should stick to teaching their kids to live out their childhoods like my momma did
I was similar growing up and now in my late 20s I have so many fond years of childhood and innocence to look back on. I think it's great you have the mindset that you do!
Kids secretly crave limits. I ask myself when things revolve around my son, if I am saying the right thing or the easy thing. I would not let him go to a club like that. He might make me miserable, but I will say, with difficulty, no. We can not be lazy. Get out of your phones, parents. Oh, my son has ADHD and NOTHING is easy.
This little girl that's scared to sleep alone has issues... it's not shove her and leave her in her room... there's an issue that's she's literally terrified of not being with an adult!
God bless you paige's mum, you are such a strong and lovely mother.
I agree young girls are growing up faster than they were 10-15 years ago. This is focused on teaching the girls what can happen if they dress provocative. But we should also teach the boys about respect and what is means to be consensual. Saying that something could happen to a girl because of the way they’re dressed sounds like victim blaming.
Saying that BY ITSELF sounds like victim blaming.
you’re completely right
Exactly. We teach girls that they have control over boys thoughts and feelings and that's bullshit.
Partly correct, but it just wasn’t age appropriate. Even if she’s not touched against her will, a 10 year old most likely doesn’t know how to deal with being hit on or stared at. My question for an adult who dresses extremely provocative would be, why do you do that? Doesn’t mean I’m blaming anyone for being a victim, a no certainly has to be excepted no matter what you wear. But why present yourself like that if you’re not interested in men reacting to it? It is possible to look good and elegant without being half naked 🤔
If you pick a battle with a child, you must win. So pick your battles wisely, lovingly, and consistently.
I think Paige is very attached to her Mom and she has separation anxiety, she loves her Mom so much, especially since I did not see a Dad. I'm not sure why Jo didn't pick that up. I think that's sweet, I'm not sure why she had to be so punished for that, maybe they could have talked it out, maybe she was afraid her Mom might leave like her Dad. Her little sister was so well behaved, for being only age three, you would think she would be the one crying to sleep with her Mom.
It's likely she did have some form of separation anxiety, but it's been shown that Paige can sleep without her mom and be fine. The habit needs to be kicked when she's young.
She's a very anxious kid. I was honestly surprised, that there were no soothing movements at all, just picking her up and throwing her back in her bed. I personally would have hugged her, stroked her hair and reassured her that I would be there for her, really close by, just don't worry, kid. Maybe even stay until she falls asleep. She said that she hated to sleep in that room. Maybe talk it out, perhaps something scares her. Try to understand form a kid's perspective. Help her draw it, express it somehow. Maybe there is some toy, that has a weird shape in the dark or some strange shadows. Kids can really get freaked out about things, that don't bother adults. I used to hate the light that passing cars would cast on my ceiling. It totally creeped me out. Dunno. I feel that there is room for more compassion.
@@csillaritas paige told that its the only time she can have with her mom alone and have cuddles so i understand why she wants to sleep with her mom but on the other hand i completely agree with what you wrote. I didnt want to sleep in my room for quite long time too and all it took was to move around the furniture and the bed and i started sleeping in my room without any problem
Yes
Any parent that believes their child tell them everything needs to reprogramme.
You build a relationship of trust with your child and you make sure you also know your child’s personality. If you know your child is a manipulative liar - you treat them that way.
Well I think there is something seriously wrong with Paige. She needs to see a child Psychologist as I don't think she is being naughty she genuinely looks frightened.
I dont think that, I think she's a spoiled naughty kid. Do you see the door of her room, like she was a princess. She's a monster full stop
@@felsouthsam1493 I don't agree with the description of monster, but she has been spoiled and is manipulating a weak mum.
@@felsouthsam1493 Doors aren't proof of anything. Abusive parents have also been known to materially lavish kids with certain resources - and then constantly belittle them or even be brutal towards them. Or to use those things as "golden handcuffs" which get taken away the instant the kid does anything out of line according to the parents (that one is a plot point for the character Mei in Avatar: The Last Airbender - she gets anything she wants as long as she shuts up, stays silent, and doesn't show her feelings). Or to spend a lot - on things the kid has zero interest in, and never on anything they actually want, even when they clearly wanted something else (example - Toph Beifong, also from Avatar the Last Airbender, whose parents buy her lots of fancy dresses but she loves fighting, akin to a modern girl in our society who loves karate or kung fu and wants lessons in those but Mom puts her in beauty pageants instead and spends money on the gear for those).
I agree. I had (have) anxiety and acted like this as a kid when I had panic attacks.
@@felsouthsam1493 I loved the front of her door. That isn’t the problem. The mom let her her do it too long and always gave in. She shares a bed room. I don’t think the moms got a ton of money or anything.
Paige did say something important right at the beginning, how she slept in her mom's bed because of snuggles and she never got those during the day.
I love Jo. Those aren’t easy situations after years of the same nighttime upset. That poor mum, so tired, battling with her child. That made my heart sad. Personally I’ve never had sleep issues with any of my four kids. I sleep trained them from birth as they are bottle babies; due to the high levels of medicines I take, so I can’t breastfeed. Having the four hour routine with their milk helped settle them all into good sleep habits. They’re all 22, 19, 15 & 15yrs old now and never slept with me. I ended up separated when the twins were babies, so routine was vital.
I will say that they have all been Young Carers over years for me and they are amazing children.
Jo doesn't stay long enough..or model a healrhy diet...
I never had these sleep issues either. Start as you mean to go on..simple. discipline early on saves the tears later.
About Paige's segments we only know what is shown.
My mom didn't sleep train, brother grew out of it at 4 me at 14. We are both normal and relatively fine now.
I had undiagnosed issues and was sent NICU shortly after being a born a week late due to a heart defect that wasn't repaired for 9mo. My mom was literally worried I would die by age 1. That history may have been determined as irrelevant because then we don't hate the kid and we empathize with the mother and we don't want that on network TV or it's too unrelatable for a lot of parents. We don't know their exact circumstances. I empathize with Paige.
Exactly! Jo didn’t even follow up on the fact that Paige told her this is the only time she has alone with mom.
same , when i was a child i had extreme anxiety and was diagnosed with ocd later , i was always scared to sleep in my room alone bc i always thought that something is going to hurt me and i’m not safe , so i think paiges mother should take her to a physiologist
@@marialiyubman as the OP said, we only know what is shown. She is with the family for quite a while and we are only shown a small snippet. The editor decides what is shown. She very well could have addressed that. We didn't see all the conversations.
@@softcruelfreddie1592 or a psychologist.
I was also like her.. As I don't want to sleep alone.. Because I m scared of darkness.. But eventually when they grow up.. They sleep individually.and as u try longer and longer, they become stubborn
Omg I was the same my poor mum. And dad 😳🙈
I was the same. However I mainly had a ton of night terrors which was the main reason I couldn’t sleep alone. However I had a hard time expressing what was happening to them till I was an adult. Still feel terrible about it.
if I had a teenage daughter I would never allow her to dress like that. And going out to party and 13-year-old no way.
I know times have changed since I grew up in the '60's, but at her age I was still out on my bike and roller-skates!
I do feel bad for Paige. I’ve had anxiety issues since I was, well, Paige’s age I think. Even now, at 18, I still sometimes sleep with my mom, cause I get anxious and scared, and with my mom, I feel safe.
I wonder if anyone asked Paige what was going on for her? Perhaps she is afraid of the dark? Or has an attachment disorder. It seems she has very strong feelings about sleeping in mums bed. Has she been abused by someone? It needs further investigating in my humble opinion.
I hope everyone have an amazing day today and many more!
Same to you 🥰
My parents would have busted my ass if i acted like that at bedtime.
if you’ve watched jo frost enough times, you know that “busting ass” isn’t effective or a smart way of parenting in any aspect in discipline. a child struggling to sleep isn’t and shouldn’t be considered requiring disciplinary action bc they’re not doing something bad on purpose as you could see here the child was saying that’s the only time she could cuddle her mom. you can say you getting hit worked on you but that’s still not helpful in the long run for anyone.
I’m glad someone said it my mother would read the riot act lol
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Right lol I couldn’t agree more
@@shalinfox1483 I’m 28 & was only spanked 2 or 3x In my entire childhood!!! My mom did it as a last resort when I was acting like a freakin demon child spawn of satan lol. There’s a reason why I only had to be spanked on my butt not even a handful of times MY ENTIRE LIFE!!! Because no matter what anybody says, I KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT IT MOST DEFINITELY WORKS if done as my mother did to us kids
I’m shocked at the mother who allows daughter to dress and go to grown up clubs. She’s only a child! I wonder if she realises that this behaviour could put her in great danger. Parent’s are not their childrens friends they have responsibility to make sure their kids are safe.
I read in another comment that she ended up getting pregnant at 15, and got caught for drunk driving. Also the mum was happy with the baby because that meant they got a bigger house, or something along the lines. Mum failed so damn hard.
The thing that has to be addressed, is that no one needs to ever be forced to eat, and no one ever has to clean the plate!
one tbsp of ice cream?! that's literally one bite! "alright darling we're having ice cream for dessert, there you go you've had your one lick so you're done, off to bed now!" might as well just not ever let them have it rather than deal with the fight of "you get one bite of ice cream."
if theyve had a healthy hearty dinner they should be full enough to not even need dessert. dessert should only be a special occasion thing, not an every day thing.
Don't think she meant a literal tablespoon, she meant one scoop as opposed to three or four scoops of ice cream in a bowl. One scoop should be about 3 oz or so.
I freeze spotty bananas and blend them up in a "nice cream" which is so tasty and satisfying. Wonderful with other frozen fruit blended in or with cacao powder for chocolate. 🥰 But not as desert. We eat it as a small meal.
@@alexkeane4597 ikr as a kid we didn't get dessert every night
Like with anyone, weigh in what you have already eaten and if you splurge on something then know your next meal will have to be lean. They are basing it off of calorie intake per dayper child. If your child had 2 or 3 slices of pizza, chips, soda and ice cream and cake then they just at a full days calorie intake or more. If they eat like that 3 times a day then they will be over weight and high cholesterol.
My mother wouldn't have let me out of the house dressed like Sawyer when I was 18 .
I have 6 kids, 3 of them girls. None of them dress like that or would even want to! My oldest 2 daughters, 19 and 18, don't even date because, so far, they haven't found a mature young man. That girl probably ended up pregnant by 15
If she did end up pregnant young the boy would get away with zero responsibility because we judge females for male behaviour.
I only had the one daughter, she wasn’t a bad sleeper, but she did you to wake up and come into our bed, she wasn’t hysterical but It never worried me. She’d go through phases and I honestly never worried. I made up a bed at the side of our bed a few times. I loved it , I was 42 when I had her so really made the most of her childhood. Not a regret at all, she is 19 now and extremely independent,always was. Perhaps some kids are scared and feel the parents insecurities
I to fell asleep in my own bed but came into parents bed during night. How often it happened decreased by itself over time but I was always welcome if I needed the safety. Even as a teenager I was allowed that last time I can remember, when we got home in the evening and had had the house trashed by burglars. I turned very independent to, and I always knew I could come to mom and dad with anything if I needed it. There were always a bit of advice or a hug if needed.
God I’m glad my son is 23 now. I remember nights like that with him. Plus he has ADHD and ODD, so trying to fight a child with those problems made it a zillion times worse. I could not go back to that again.
I can relate. My ADHD/ODD child wouldnt sleep either, despite my determination for a regular bedtime. It nearly drove me around the bend. Now he is a parent, he won't enforce bedtimes with his young children and they suffer from tiredness the next day and their school work and relationships suffer. No boundaries is neglectful and abusive.
I feel sad for Paige ..she is genuinely having separation anxiety..my mum left me sleep with her till I was 11 ..thanks mum for understanding ..we all overgrow child is not going to be child forever..let her sleep with you
Go Joe you are beautiful.....from a nana of 8 grandsons and 1 beautiful granddaughter .... Respect Mans is everything to All my Whanau Sending love from NZ ❤
When my daughter was that age, she would come into my room, wanting to climb in my bed. This is what I did and it always worked. I would allow her into my bed, but, after about 10 minutes I would take her back to her own room and bed. Sometimes, in the mornings, I would find her sleeping on the floor beside my side of the bed, or, I would find her sleeping on the foot of the bed! Of course, she would do that when I was sound asleep. About the 13 yr old girl who looks half naked in the clothes that her Mother must be buying! To KNOW that your daughter is sneaking into older age clubs...KNOWING IT...it is stunning! Listen to the mother who lets her daughter have her way because if Mom says "NO" the daughter goes into a "mood." Yikes! I cannot believe that the Mom is okay with all of this! Good God! The daughter has more sense that the Mother!!! Problem is that one of those boys who pass the phone number is going to be angry if the girl doesn't phone him! God help them all, and I sincerely mean that!
I'm ashamed to say I would have lost it after a half hour.
Same. I know I don't have the patience for kids, so I just won't have any.
The Mom's I know who did sleep training between 6 months to 12 months don't deal with this. It is important not to start bad sleep habits with your kids.
That's called neglecting your baby's needs under the guise of sleep training. Babies cry for a reason. Why have them if your going to ignore their cries.
@@ally-mp7cc it takes a very simple Google search to understand there are many, many variations of the term 'sleep training,' a majority of which do NOT include 'neglecting' your child. In fact, many sleep training programs teach you how to be incredibly in tune with your child's sleep needs which is clearly extremely important in their development. Please stop spreading fear and hate to other moms. It's hard enough without us tearing one another down.💘
@@ally-mp7cc ppplppppplplp pl lllllll😊
@@ally-mp7cc You need to research. Every Mom I know who did sleep training, waited several months. You don't put them down hungry or needing a diaper change. Every Mom I know goes to their child if in distress. If a Mom of a baby knows her baby is crying, she would go check on baby. A child 6 years old is acting like this because she wasn't taught to sleep without Mommy when she was younger. So sleeping on her own produces fear.
@@coldcaseblogger220 sleep training is a modern concept that has been recently introduced and a western ideology that has been perpetuated as being perfectly normal.
I agree there are certain circumstances that warrant help from an outside source in the case of an older child who requires help either psychologically to address the underlying problem, however in this case I am referring to babies.
Counteracting my statement by labelling it as hate or spreading fear is typical of the cancel culture in order to invalidate or override another person.
You do you boo.
Oh my gosh. My parents would never have put up with six years of that. We stayed in bed whether we wanted to or not because they were running the show, not us!
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When my kid was 8, we moved to a new house.
She often had nightmares. It ended with coming into my bedroom. Refusing to sleep in her own. Saying there were someone she could see in her mirrors in there.
I felt it was something wrong with her room. Her having previously lots of nightmares.
Well i wanted to find out for myself. And slept in her room a couple of nights.
It was impossible to sleep there. I felt not alone. Like someone staring at me. Small noises in the corners.
I had a medium to find out about it.
And yes we had "visitors". He was able to cleanse the energies. And it was gone.
So.. children do feel and sense things we dont. It dont need to be only a spoilt child. By the way im educated into the same as Jo here. 😊
THANK YOU JOJO FOR ACCOMMODATING YOUNG WOMEN AS WELL, thank you. Thank you.
When my eldest daughter met a 19 year old, at 15, she wanted to go out with him. But after I wanted to throw up, I told her fine, invite him to the house for dinner and I’ll see how things go. After dinner, the young man was very nice but still too old, they watched a movie and he went home. The next day she came in and I asked about the young man and she said she broke up with him bc he was too old. In my mind I was doing cartwheels, to her I just said “Oh, OK. Yes! Done!
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Suddenly he was too old?
Grandma did a great job by setting the stage before bedtime. It was a discussion and Paige narrating the proceedings helped her hear it in her own voice. Grandma was also still gentle as she returned Paige to bed and she rassured her that she's still nearby.
Yeah, felt a lot like much of the problem was separation anxiety. And grandma making sure granddaughter felt safe and not felt abandoned sure seemed to make things easier. Mum felt like she was further away and not as responding to the signs from the daughter. Of course she can't keep going to sleep with mommy every night but also there needs to be a comminucation finding what the problem is and trying to make the child feel calm and safe in their bed.
@@TheGitarrlillan I couldn't agree more with you 👌
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A friend who is a paediatrician says that they recommend a mattress on the floor of parents bedrooms, for anxious sleeper, then slowly move the mattress further away from the bed, then slowly down the hall and slowly into their rooms. ❤
Orrr just make the damn kids sleep in their own rooms from the like the age of 1 & upwards
@@djjones7039 agree. There should be no discussion!
@@mandyellis876 you definitely want to discuss and tell your kids what is happening
Yes, my 8yo started showing up at midnight, crying and wanting to sleep with me. After a couple of uncomfortable nights, I pulled the cushions from an unused sofa and made a little bed on the floor. So the nights she woke up, she could sleep there.
I figured that it was due to all the pandemic chaos, online school, etc. So I didn't take a hard line. Now it's a year later and she still sometimes comes down, but I hug her and walk her back, and she's okay. If she comes down again, I just kind of pat her arm and say, "hope you sleep soon. I'm too tired to stay up, see you tomorrow" and she sometimes sheds a few tears but understands that it's unreasonable to expect me to be awake just because she's awake, and she goes and lies down and falls asleep again.
@@er6730 good mama not coddling your daughter trying to not sleep in her own room. I don’t understand all the mama’s that allow their kids to run things & to choose which place they can sleep & let them get away w a bunch of other things. I’m happy you let her sleep in your room during the worst of the pandemic & schooling being different etc. but being strong & put her back in her own room and bed when things were back to more normal & routine. Keep it up!! 💯👍🏻🙃
Is it that she’s won’t sleep at all or she will only sleep with her mama?
Why is she so scared to sleep by herself without the protection of her mum? That’s what I’d be asking.
What has happened for her to be so hysterical about being with out her mum?
Jo is so fantastic! I am totally amazed. Paige's mother did so well!!! Absolutely wonderful.💜
Thank goodness only a few children refuse to sleep or refuse to eat. But the ones who do, they make a person absolutely hate parenthood.
I refuse to eat. not because of a desiplian (Can't spell that) problem, but because of a health problem.
Yes there are genuine health issues. I have cared for several children with extreme oral aversion who often were fed by tube from birth , nothing to do with parents or discipline. And equally I have cared for children with brain issues who have very disrupted sleep at no fault of a parent. It’s always good to check things out with a doctor. But I have to say the majority of problems I see are likely caused by perhaps well meaning parents , who are unable to step up and parent.
Don’t have kids if you can’t control them.
@@nataliesolondz4304 same. And my mom took it out on me and began starving me out of spite.
Hugs 💔
(Discipline).
There is nothing wrong with teaching children to groom themselves but it should be age appropriate. A 10 yr old girl should not be wearing fake nails, wearing a full face of makeup, and clothing that teenagers wear, a little bit of lip gloss, and painting their own nails and toenails, having a hairstyle or cut that is stylish is ok. It makes them feel good about themselves and yet they are not growing up to fast. Parents who buy inappropriate and such revealing clothes for their children should be turned into DCFS, im not saying their kids need to be removed from the home unless there is neglect but the parents should be made to take parenting classes because they obviously have no idea how to properly raise their children if they are ok buying stripper clothes for their 13 yr old daughter.
They can wear fake nails that’s made for kids
@@MelB868 if they start wearing fake nails at a early age, then they're going to want to wear fake lashes, the key word being FAKE!!!! A child should not ever feel it necessary to wear anything fake when what they were born with is perfect.
My God you are the parents you all need to teach them that
My incredibly brilliant daughter, now a mother herself, at the age of 13 was told that she "dressed like an old lady" by one of her peers. Her response was amazing: she told the girl "and you dress like you're looking for attention". My daughter and I had always talked about the effects of provocative dressing. I knew she understood at the tender age of 13! 😎
And it can be very hard to buy shorts for girls that aren't a few fingers long.
I have on numerous occasions purchased cheap trackies at new season and cut off to get decent length shorts. Even school camps ask for mid thigh or knee length and I can't buy them at normal shops, from grade 4-7. It's horrid as they don't get a choice on length
I watched super nanny when I was younger. Then when I had a baby I went back and watched CZcams’s as I knew I couldn’t cope with a baby that didn’t sleep by 4. Honestly Jo helped me get the perfect bedtime routine. By the time he was 7 weeks he was sleeping 7-7 🎉 and has never had sleep issues
Seriously... Are u saying you sleep trained a new born?
I hope you're not implying she did something criminal. 'Sleep training' has a bad rap because people don't understand it. It has more to do with allowing baby the connect sleep cycle on their own, which early on are only two hours in length at that stage; than it has to do with letting a baby cry. Not sleep training at a certain point would be a disservice to the child as you are making them form habits of waking up instead of connecting sleep cycles.
*to connect sleep cycles (typo)
I so enjoy watching JoJo Frost!! She's sensible, thoughtful, supportive of the parents and in the end so very caring! I've watched JoJo from the very beginning and just can't get enough
It always seems to come back to the basics.
Say what you mean
Mean what you say
And do what you say you're going to do
My son's energy expenditure is enormous. He spends all day long playing around, climbing trees, riding a bike, swimming in the lake, and running with friends. He eats a lot of healthy food. I think the portion will depend on the way of life
If Paige is old enough to talk fresh and roll her eyes up *43:26 at her mother... She’s old enough to sleep in her own bed! I’m extremely surprised that Jo didn’t explain to the Mother that Paige felt that the only time she get cuddles (affection) is when she cuddles with her mommy in bed. Personally, l felt extremely sorry for the little sister Poppy! It seemed she got totally ignored constantly and probably lost a considerable amount of sleep due to Paige’s nightly hissy fits! These girls are 6 and 4 years old... What’s with the thumb sucking?
That 13 year old girl dressed up extremely provocatively not “Grown Up”! “Grown up” for who, a street walker? The mother saying she trusts her daughter is all well and good... However, does she trust all of the teenage boys who are ogling her daughter? By the way teenage boys are capable of rape!
Regarding the over eating situation... Jo’s pointing out that 1/4 of a 7” Pizza is a appropriate sized portion for an eight year old child... Seriously? Only if it’s accompanied by a side of veggies or a side salad! Whatever happened to a piece of fruit for dessert? I’m a professional Pastry Chef and l rarely gave my children sweets for dessert! Instead of Ice Cream... How about a 1/2 cup of Frozen Grapes or Berries? Perhaps a Frozen Banana rolled in nuts?
I enjoy watching these Supernanny videos but, the overwhelming majority of problems these children have are definitely the parents fault! Six years old and still sleeping in the bed? That situation should have been addressed 4 years ago! I sincerely hope that 13 year old girl never finds herself in a situation where an over aggravative teenage boy or boys drag her into the Men’s Room or stairwell!
Well said, Jane!! I am 100% with you on these 3 issues.
I was surprised the cuddles with mom were not talked about as well. Having planned cuddle time before bed could be helpful
You are right and i observed these problems as well. However i have noticed that tv programmers are averse to proper guidance. And sooner or later that little girl dressing like that will have to stop whether it be through learning the hard way or the easy way. As a non UK resident, i find it shocking and abhorrent that there are clubs for teenagers. What happened to the time when people required an id to prove they are an adult and get into a club? This is the fault of the citizens. They should never have allowed such laws to come into effect
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Thank you, Gwen. 😊
Agree with you. And I'm surprise they didn't talk about having an appropriate bed time routine. Maybe having some books talking about going to sleep.
Some children hate sleeping alone. They want the comfort of sleeping near their loved ones just as adults do. They won’t be sleeping with you forever.
NOBODY I knew dressed like this kid when I was in middle school. At least the young lady blocked guys who were actually coming onto her. I'm surprised any guy would give her their number and NOT want grown up talk, etc.
I used to be like Paige but I had bad insomnia, constant nightmares and hallucinated a lot. I also maybe had PTSD or a bad trauma but I never got help for any of those things. I also lived with constant stress and felt like my parents loved my sister more than me. But I feel like in my case it was my parents fault for not getting me any help. Also my dad would always jumpscare me and my mom once locked me in my room when I kept getting out of bed. They joke about those things like it's nothing, they think it's funny.
Hansel and Gretel is a tough bedtime story 😂
OH COME ON!!!!! GROW TF UP!
@@marialiyubman Seriously? Did you not see the laughing emoji? I can’t even 🤦🏻♀️
When my kids were Paige's age, if they had been like this, the next day when they asked me for anything, i would say "Mummy can't. She's too tired from last night." I would explain the consequences of the "crime". It worked rather well with my four (now adult) kids.
Exactly! Create an understanding that mom is also human, which would teach them empathy.
6 year olds bedtime starting at 9pm?! Damn
I'm a bit concerned that Paige clearly has an anxiety issue and that hasn't been addressed at any point. Nobody's asked why she's afraid to sleep in her own room.
My sister was just like Paige too, when she was little she’d refused to sleep alone without my parents. I was fine sleeping in my bed. I have plenty of stories about my sister.
tell me one
@@jj8656 my sister was a VERY stubborn eater when we were little. When it came to roasts she would refuse to eat it. The only things she would eat at the time was cheese spread on bread or pasta, she eventually grew out of her fussy eating stage as she got older though.
I feel for you Living in that atmosphere is not easy I had similar sibling as well I hated him is such growing up..
For my sister, she was scared because she thought they were floating heads in the room lmao.
@@jays9781 I’m sure you did feel resentment towards your brother. I’m sure you did.
For people commenting "this show is birth control", why are they watching instead of learning what Jo is teaching? They are pretty easy techniques if began when the child is as young as 1 year old.
My kids were in my bed from birth. This idea that they will never sleep on their own is horseshit.
My son called the police when I told him he couldn’t come in my room!
That’s one strange child. WHY the absolute obsession with staying with her mum? She’s either very spoilt or something happened when she was younger.
It's not strange at all, kids find comfort in their parents. I'd say it's normal
she said its the only time she gets to be alone with her mom and the only time they cuddle so i think she got obsessive about being left alone
That mom literally had a year worth of cardio going up and down those stairs oof.
I also feel bad for poppy she must've had so much sleep taken away from her especially that night.
I would never of allowed this, my daughter wanted to dress older but I had rules in place. Even if she did sneak other clothing out. I am all for a child forming there own identity but there are limits as a parent we have to protect and implement boundaries too. The media sexualising and encouraging young people to behave and dress a certain way have a lot to answer for, you have to ask the question why are they encouraging it.
I totally agree. I'm 17 and wouldn't dream of revealing any cleavage. You're right about the media part. Fashion is so weird nowadays.
Co-sleeping leads to bedtime sleep issues. We never once let our kids sleep in our bed and didn’t have a single issue with bed time.