How workplace ageism hurts everyone-and the bottom line | Samantha Dzabic | TEDxBurleigh Heads
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- Explore the pervasive issue of ageism with Samantha Dzabic's compelling talk which offers profound insights and solutions for combatting discrimination based on age. Through vivid storytelling and personal reflections, Dzabic navigates the harsh realities faced by older individuals in the tech industry and beyond, highlighting the detrimental impact of age-related stereotypes on mental and physical health. From challenging assumptions to advocating for inclusivity, she urges viewers to shine a light on ageism and take tangible steps towards change. Drawing on wisdom from indigenous cultures and personal anecdotes, Dzabic inspires a collective effort to rebuild a village where every age is valued and celebrated. Don't miss this empowering talk that sparks crucial conversations and encourages action towards a more equitable future.
Samantha Dzabic is an experienced Human Resources professional, passionate about organisational transformation with a main focus on the people side of change, especially stakeholder and risk management. She has worked for both public and private organisations as the Head of Transformation. Her interests and research are in leadership development, neuroscience and the impact of technological, political and environmental changes on organisational behaviour. Samantha is currently conducting a project on Ageism with high-profile clients and organisations. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
In 2023 the locksmith I worked for was still doing actual paperwork in his daily life. Old school. Company was around since 70s. I will say, if the lights went out we could still do business.
When I was a kid, teenagers worked in fast food restaurants….now there’s grandmas taking my order at McDonald’s….sad
We older citizens ,like me are rejected even with our broad experience and knowledge are turned away this is a very,sad reality.
May I know which country are you from? Ageism seems very serious problem
lol your experience has been outdated for a decade or more. The world changed and you didn't..
@@hillbilly_delux78 In my country, discrimination on ageing at employment market is a very serious problem
@@irenelo3660 It's not because of age, its because of skillset. Here in the US the boomers the largest generation as a group have decided to not learn new skills, and technology. They got away with not knowing it for so long because they are the biggest and pushed their weight around, now they are getting pushed out for people with better more tech skillset. While they are also older, the real issue is the skillset. The reality is they do half the work in twice the time, and then aggressively talk about how hard they worked and how many hours they put in. Maybe you should post your country here so they folks can move there and get a pity job...
Not true. I am 50 years old. Have been in fore run job function such as transformation. And I am only out of job for 2 years during pandemic. But I feel it during the interview or when matching job against my background.. the feedback I receive has been you are too "senior" for this role, not sure it is about my "age" or "seniority ranking in organization chart".. btw, I was AVP ranking..
And when businesses judge you by your social media, social media doesn't determine your ability to do a job
Depends if the job requires networking. If you're in marketing you'd better get up to speed quickly.
Ageism does not seem to be a problem in Politics 🤔
We have the oldest Congress in the history and the oldest presidents.
I am not sure what to make of it.
🤣 Oh but it IS
senility makes you easy to manipulate
Funeral homes as well.. and they're pretty productive compared to government institutions.
POWER can overcome any barrier.
you’re American?
I run into the same issue when applying for employment yet when dating at 70 years old guys ask what I do for a living. It is an intresting dynamic as on the the one had being rejected for my age and on the other the expectation I should die working at some job.
if the govt. would have left SS alone like they were suppose to by law, this wouldn't be an issue. but the greedy ultra wealthy could care less.
"and start talking about ---- because when we start talking about anything it becomes visible and soon action follows and don't hold back for things to change we must really lead the change that we want to see in our companies with our friends and our families"
Was visiting family in another state and we stopped at a small, locally owned liquor store for party libations. We hear from behind the counter "I will absolutely never hire a damn millennial." Agism can be directed at any age group.
We left and bought A LOT of beer and wine somewhere else.
With all of these years behind me I refuse to , be put out of sight and out of mind so HEEAR ME DAMMIT ! :>p
As a an over qualified 19 year old I run into reverse agism occasionally. Some environments wayyy worse than others
I understand your viewpoint however you lack the life and circumstantial experience to make you valuable. There is a sweet spot between about 28 years old and about 40 or so.
no such thing as an over qualified 19 year old.
Lol suuure you are
Self titles are just wonderful. In reverse ageism your likely referring to people not taking you serious due to age and lack of life experience. Come back in 10 years
All these replies proving you right here being ageist😂😂
I think when I was young I thought 1) I won’t care by the time I’m that old anyway, and 2) It’s bound to have improved by then because our age is soooo much more enlightened than the bad old days. Drastically wrong on both assumptions.
Your accent felt me relax❤
But we can invest in those people (employ them in a special companies)
What a great idea !
Even older people make fun of people that are just a little bit older than themselves. I’m in my 60s and hear people my age making fun of people in their 70s and 80s as though they are not going to be there…😳😂
I never have.. in fact I never even thought it
So true, maybe their minds are declining! :-(
what's funny is that every single one of us will get to that point in time including the people who are now discriminating. :) good luck to the young!
Amazing! 😊
As a 30 y/o f - people my age also a part of ageism. I tried to get a new job after a year of unemployment and it was very hard, too hard in my opinion… (I have work experience, I have couple degrees)
Also, working with older generation can be challenging 🤷🏼♀️
4 years into my 40’s and am frustrated that while the younger generation is EXCELLENT about racism, misogyny, transphobia, etc., they often blindly embrace ageism with zero sense of irony that they too will one day “age out”.
The best bet for seniors is probably to become self-employed in their skill set or learn a trade and hopefully go out of their way to hire other seniors if they achieve success . I realize that going from being an employee to owning a business is no small feat but unfortunately ageism in the workplace is real and not likely to change anytime soon .
I think reverse agism is more common in my experience. I've worked with a number of 60+ colleagues who's skills are massively outdated and their 'experience' is actually a negative as they refuse to upskill and work on continuous improvement, and who are seen to be far more valuable than their younger colleagues despite delivering alot less value to the company. Some older accountants i've worked with hadn't kept up to date with changes in reporting standards and laws for years yet would mock younger colleagues for their lack of 'wisdom'.
The key here is that any staff member who puts effort into their continuous development, adapts well to change and takes a proactive approach to their work will deliver value perpetually. Any staff member that stops focussing on improvement will eventually become irrelevant.
Just you wait till us old school Halo and COD players hit 70 80 no one is safe.
As big an issue as this Discrimination is, Disrespect is an even Bigger problem! Let's talk about that!
Amazing work Samantha! Such a pressing topic.
thank you so much - and thank you for supporting me always!
SUE THEM. I agree with this lovely lady about how PERVASIVE and destructive and damaging this phenomenon is. And, it's also Illegal! Stand Up to it! File Official Complaints!
The high tech industry is a little silly because sure the young ones write faster and have better ideas, but if you look at the code you realize they have no insight on how it'll look in 5 or 10 years. It often is throw away stuff... With the industry currently wanting to always look new that might be fine, but it is horrible for stability - why do you think there are so many bugs and exploits?
Brilliant.
Thank you
There is definitely also ageism intersected with gender with women of an age expected to have children soon too. I even ageism and gender judge myself wondering if I deserve a job because I plan to have children soon and I feel a sense of guilt applying even though I’d have to provide for those children, and there’s no way of knowing how long it will take to get pregnant. It’s difficult because I know how hard of a worker I am.
GREY TSUNAMI is sooo derogatory. Most people are actually going grey in their 20s and so mostly all adults are part of the grey tsunami. Ageism is very strong in Australia…I wonder why?🤷♀️
Companies don’t want to pay more than they have to, and they don’t want the increasing risk of health issues as we all age. If you have a secure(ish) job where you can progress up the ladder for longer, you are insulated from this a little, as your expertise and responsibility level justifies the money and the increased risk of illness. But not forever. The same problem applies to women of child-bearing age. A young man will be cheaper, and probably healthier for longer. Young people could take less pay for a while in order to get into their preferred area. Older people with children etc can’t indulge themselves like this. So we all get more expensive to employ as we get older, whatever we do.
Quite true. We, as elders, also have a first step to take to leave behind qualifying ourselves due to aging. Of course, it is true we cannot act as agile, as fast or as strong we used to, but that doesn’t mean necessarily that we have to retired completely and wait for the new generations to take care of us. We still have a lot to do so connections between generations do not become unbridgeable ditches. We simply have to acknowledge that we all, young and elders, have a voice that counts the same. I retired as an architect 7 years ago at 64 and now I am a part-time professor in my local university, together with other really young professors, as well as remote. That´s what I mean.
I'm fine with it as long as it's not a critical role like CEO. I saw an 80 year old as CEO... Any day he will die and the company will be in turmoil as it has to redo everything.
this society rejects people who are over a certain age who are looking for work because they have been fired or for other reasons no longer work, the retirement age has been extended, how can a person over 50 find a job if the entrepreneurs don't want to invest in an elderly person? is experience no longer needed? When I was younger and starting out they asked me for experience, now that I have more than 30 years of high-level professional work, I can't find anything anymore. the entrepreneurial mentality should change, the experience of a senior could be useful for the younger ones, as a guide, as a teaching, to lay the foundations for a good career path. this is not happening
Or it could be a hinderance, sticking them in the past with old outdated ways while others excel with new ideas and ways of doing things.
Problem is they aren’t smart enough to understand how 30 years of experience could improve their company in so many ways?
@@conormurphy4328 I have seen many young people who have very good qualifications but have no practical experience. Experienced people make the difference.
You are lady who is becoming more beautiful with age
Ironic the world run by octogenarians and yet at 60 I am overqualified and ignored after 25 years in finance
So what are you doing now for work?
The rules don’t apply to the elite.
intrested
When will we extend rights to children? They’re people too!
Unformed, uninformed, less educated, and inexperienced.
But they aren’t a part of the current workforce
i have decades on people in my field, can do what they do in 1/4 of the time. no one 30 years younger wants to hire me, as i would need to make way more than the kids coming up. bad system.
As a 30 year old, I'm experiencing the same thing...
It's not your age, it's the fact that there less job opportunies due to nepotism and AI
I agree with you landscape. @@C.J.T49
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I still play soccer with a four year old😅
Wooo
The truth is while the youth are great when it comes to technological development and new ideas, they often lack wisdom. A symbiotic relationship is crucial between the old and the young. The elderly should be included when it comes to diversity hire.
Older people know better.
😮
Explain the president...
Ok, he isn’t there mentally and reads what young handlers tell him. And even that sounds insane.
I have no problem with the age of the president. My problem is with his cognitive functioning.
No one can.
Cause the world of old people,does not exist anymore.
The world is being run by old people lol
@@C.J.T49 u got the Problem;)
You can call it ageism or sexism or anything you want. The fact is humans are judgmental to a fault. You will only stop that with a machine. The answer if you wish to work is to start your own business. In this day and age the possibilities are almost unlimited. Rise above your oppressors. Or sit in the pile you have created. I am sure I will be judged on this comment.
It might be narrow minded of me - but it's a little hard to listen to as a younger person. These job finding woes she describes? They are not indicative of age - last year it took me 6 months to find a new job after being laid off. While employment reports to be relatively low - the job market or at least: tech, in my experience has been a tough nut. Second, it's her generation that lived through some of the most prosperous years, cheap housing, expanding markets and reaping those rewards while gutting social programs they benefited from. Younger generations are struggling right now by every economic metric, cost of living has never been higher and it's because of the policies that have been put in place/voted for by her generation. Corporate and shareholder profits over all else - guess they didn't think about worker protections along the way - something that could have benefited EVERYBODY. These corporations catch ANY wiff of economic turmoil and they make big cuts; laying off people without second thought - the older - more expensive people as she puts it. Well, guess what? You made your bed and now you have to lay in it like the rest of us.
I’m advocating for better integration of all ages. But also speaking from my experience as a 62 year old. My message is “it takes a village….’ All ages contribute to a society.
Why not discuss the large negative economic incentives of hiring old people? If you are talking about a stereotypes , you cannot dismiss those by cherry picking your example.
1) You will hire someone who has a pretty good chance quitting to retire within a few years. You spend 2 years investing in training an employee, only to lose them in 4 years because retirement benefits kick in. Now this isn't specific to old people. The same can happen with maternity or ambitious employees. But it is just another cutoff point many people take to leave.
2) the older you get the greater the risk of a physical injury will incapacitate them. Even something as menial like a cashier at a supermarket. A fall is much more likely to break a hip which requires a longer time to recover from. And depending on the laws, it can mean that the employer has to pay sick leave for months or years with very little gain. And then we aren't even taking into account medical conditions that accrue with age.
3) More experiences does not mean more flexibility.
I have worked in a company (big financial institution) where numerous employees worked from start till retirement for the same company. Throughout the years they had migrated numerous times in the company due to changes in culture, size or technology or personal ambition. But for a large chunk of employees there was a great hurdle when it came to retraining the older they got. Either because they lacked the comfort to embrace new digital systems, or because they were unwilling to change their work pattern because they had gotten accustomed to it. We are talking about 63 year old typing with two fingers, spending 20 minutes finding the right folder in a cloud or unwilling to schedule meetings with clients over Teams.
Then there is the additional risk that rather than adapt to a new situation, they are incentivized to hold out in their old role until the company issues them a severance package. A completely rational decisions, if they consider their future prospects poor. They'd better take the bag on their way out. But this usually means a lot of friction with management or their teams, resulting in sick leaves and more lost productivity.
If you want to ensure you keep working in old age, I guess you better be your own boss.
Historically, old people kept working because there was no social safety net and there was no fixed retirement age. So you just worked until you couldn't. And because there was economic insecurity they lived in with family were they could assist by providing supplemental income or care task rather than be economically self sufficient.
But all that changed with pension systems, nursing services, smaller families and a cohort of people who didn't have children. It seems unfair to compare a live-in grandma making meals for the family with a childless spinster who has been working as secretary for decades.
AW poor boomers finally get a taste of the medicine they have gen X, where they would dismiss us as not having enough experience or too young. Sucks when the shoe's on the other foot eh?
Colleagues aka ppl who have the same type of job yo do . And by some ridiculous miiracle actually get paid to talk about it.
SMH doh :>P
Research aka , reading stuff and watching presentations , js :>P SMH
Is ageism anything like raceism or communeism?
A large part of something missing here is that older folks byinlarge have deeply held religious/social hang ups. What good is an aged worker's idea, as wise as it may be, if they start foaming at the mouth because someone else has a man bun or is trans or, heaven forbid, another race than they are?
I'm white, 84, have a full beard, and hair halfway down my back and have never judged anyone based on race, or beliefs. Stop judging others based on what social media, and the MSM, tells you. Those you describe only represent a very small fraction of elderly people, or any other age. Get out of your bubble and go meet some old people. It's apparent that you don't know many.
What good does it do to have a young, diverse work force if they discriminate on the basis of age and stereotype others? Having a group of employees free of "hang-ups" but lacking in critical thinking skills and low on experience isn't going to help improve a business' bottom line. Diversity matters. Representation matters.
@@jimdavis6833 Exactly
@@jimdavis6833 research on voter turnout and party values on social issues in addition to multiple social opinion polls show you as an outlier among your generation. That's not social or MS media, sir, that's academic study on sociopolitical alignment. I applaud your ability to grow hair & keep from judging people based on things they can't control but 'if I was a bett'n man' I wouldn't stake anything on folks over 60 thinking like you, at least in the US, unless I was in a place like Oakland CA.
@@CalicoCooperFan Right but young people are cheaper, faster, and know how to make a pdf out of a word document. The presenter at least admitted that. I'm neither young nor old so I have to put up with both yall 😆
The problem is political. Destroying the purchasing power of money means we can’t retire when we should. The workplace should be for the young, not seniors.
Another consideration is that people are living longer healthier lives and may not be ready to retire at 65 regardless of money or others preconceived notions . I'm a licensed massage therapist going on 25 years and thank God I work for myself and no one can take that away from me!
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The Iranian president crashed bigly.
We're supposed to have sympathy for a people who elected HAMAS to represent them?
@@jimdavis6833 all they know are the ‘cool’ chants. It’s pathetic.