How Strong Was Paul Anderson v Louis Cyr?
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- How Strong Was Paul Anderson v Louis Cyr Actually?
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Cyr’s strength was 100% real. I’ve been to his museum in Quebec which housed some of the training implements he used during his life including the 274 pound dumbell he pressed overhead with one arm. The guy was just a freak of nature
The crazy thing with Cyr was that he wasn’t really training. Just showing. I can’t imagine how strong he would have been today, with training and gear.
And TRT
I didnt realise that Anderson was 5"9". Carrying 150kg at that height, even at a higher bodyfat, is absolutely mental! What a unit he must have been in person
Thats a typical Pacific islander. No idea about strength tho.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO, there's a brief clip of Anderson doing overhead presses with an improvised barbell suspended from chains. This was one of the many ingenious tricks Anderson used to get stronger. Over time he lowered the barbell by adding one chain link at a time, thus increasing the ROM until he could do a full movement.
With the squat he went the other way, by digging a shallow hole that had a huge makeshift barbell straddling it. After each workout he'd add some dirt to the hole until eventually the hole was filled, and he wasdoing parallel squats. This is where the legend of the 1200lbs squat came from. The improvised barbell over the hole was claimed to weigh 1500lbs. Hence the assumption he could squat 1200lbs. However, while he actually attempted the 1200lbs at some kind of venue, he didn't succeed in a legit depth. The reason why he thought he could was because of the "hole trick" and massive barbell as well as his 900 x 10 full squat effort witnessed by John C. Grimeck. Now that hole trick was also the subject of hype. A Weider magazine claimed the barbell was a pair of wall safes attached to a truck axel, and they even had a drawing of Anderson using it with a mattress for shoulder padding. They claimed it weighed 1500lbs. There's no record of that contraption. What there is is film of Anderson using two 55 gallon drums filled (probably partially) with concrete, and attached at the top with a bar. THAT'S the contraption he used with the hole in the ground. I suspect it was less than 1500lbs, but still more than 1000, and even at least 1200lbs.
As a lifelong Iron Game enthusiast, and a huge fan of both Anderson and Cyr, After due consideration I give my support firmly in favour of Paul Anderson. As far as who was the naturally strongest man of all time, without doing much formal training, definitely it had to be Louis Cyr. But mention should be made that once he got into circus work, he DID train regularly, mainly to maintain his strength and even improve it to remain impressive to the audiences. As for Paul, he squatted with 300 pounds for around 20 reps in his first contact with a barbell. Paul had savant-level genius when it came to inventing equipment to help himself to keep improving. He also had a very thorough knowledge of muscle-building nutrition. I think just the mastery Paul had of virtually every lift in the book, and the margin between what he could lift, compared to what Louis could lift in the measurable events, leaves me with the only conclusion possible . . That Paul Anderson was the strongest man of all time.
I realise that there are many folks seeking to de-value Pauls accomplishments, but let's take a minute to examine who they are. They're the high-dose steroid gang of elite Powerlifters and modern Strongmen, who you can bet London to a brick are as jealous as hell of Paul.
The photo I have in my copy of Muscular Development Magazine from 1969 shows clearly that the boxes of silver dollars were FULL, not half empty! The video of Paul doing a one arm dumbbell side press shows him doing a double, and just missing a third rep on that 330 pound monster! That was done as cold as a maggot, just prior to Paul going to the microphone to give his message.
The late Terry Todd, a man whose words I trust as absolute truth more than anyone else's, wrote volumes about Paul in the Size and Strength series of articles that appeared in MD magazine. Peary Rader from Iron Man Magazine also held the view that Paul was indeed the "wonder of nature" the Russians called him!
Interestingly, they waited until after Todd's death to start downgrading Anderson because, had Terry been still with us, he would surely have set the records . . there were many . . straight.
Awesome video Strength Universe! I think this is the best comparison anyone has ever done on Paul Anderson vs. Louis Cyr.
Thanks Mate. Wish Cyr had done some more conventional lifts
@@StrengthUniverse Yes buddy. That's one of the major limiting factors we have.
If Louis trained in Paul’s era, it would have been a showdown for sure. Louis lacked the training that would have brought him to a much stronger place.
Ya the fact he was as strong as he was without proper training or even diet I’d crazy and if either of these guys were alive today with modern nutrition training and possibly even modern steroids they could very well be the strongest men in the modern era
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Good video and nice comparison. Paul is truly a very strong claimant for the strongest man of all time. Both were freaks of strength though.
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They both did some measured lifts, and they both did some charlatan lifts. I will roll with Anderson due to him going to the Olympics. Cyr is too much a circus show, but both were stronger than most if not all "strongmen" of their times.
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Another banger from u.
Both men were certainly the strongest of their eras and are the legends of iron culture. I woud like to point out few things regarding the strength comparison of Cyr and Anderson :
1. What needs to be understood here is that two men are from 2 different eras, in Louis Cyr's time not much training took place in gyms, it was mostly practiced on farm working long hrs. and lifting heavy stuff as there were no tractors during those days. In Anderson's time lots of gyms and people worked out.
2. The first modern Olympic was held at 1896 , the height of Cyr's strength career but he never lifted in that 1st Olympic or even at latter Olympics and that was probably because he was already a professional by that time and that games were mostly comprised of the world's rich and well born. Louis however performed near equivalent lift in 1896 by clean and jerking 347 lbs and this was quite something as he had no real practice on this so very little form as u mentioned. He also lacked certain advantages that modern day lifters like Anderson had for instance the york olympic barbell with the knurled bar and the ball bearing collars.
3. In Cyr's days, a press was done with the arms only, no leg drive or body momentum whereas Anderson's one arm press was clearly with some leaning. Consider this when when u note that Anderson's presses were heavier. Yes, Anderson lifted more, but would he have if the lifts were done in a stricter fashion like Cyr?
4. It is said that Cyr never lifted to his max. ability for example in backlift he was capable of doing more than 4300 lbs or even probably 5000 lbs but they feared that platform could collapse at such weights so he played it safe and it is evidenced by the fact that he lifted the platform several inches off the ground whereas Anderson's supposed lift was only for a few inch off the ground. Also, Anderson's sole purpose behind doing that backlift was to break Cyr's record as he has himself mentioned specifically that he wanted to break Cyr's backlift record. He pointed out that Cyr's backlift record gave him the title of world's strongest man therefore, he would like to break his record in order to become the world's strongest man that ever lived. Although it is highly probable that 1. Anderson's supposed backlift of 6270 lbs never happened or 2. If it indeed happened , the weight was actually in the range of 4300-5000 lbs according to the research of Dr. Terry Todd and his team.
Hey buddy, thank you and I enjoyed reading your comment. I agree about the Olympic lifting, one person who witnessed his lift said his legs were kept stiff. Cyr did purchase some dumbbells and a. Barbell/s in 1882 (date from memory) to train and improve his strength. As mentioned briefly in this video and I far more detail in my Louis Cyr video the participants in the backlift were not weighed and it is believed that the actual weight was closer to 3300lbs.
I believe that Cyr was without doubt the strongest man of his era but I also believe that some of his feats of strength like the horse resist were merely stunts that looked incredible but didn’t really demonstrate strength, more a high tolerance to pain.
I’m currently making a video on Mark Henry, currently finished 33 seconds worth😂
@@StrengthUniverse thank u and yes I believe Paul Anderson was stronger. The interesting thing is to think what Louis woud have done had he gotten the same access as Paul and had the same training methodology .
I really hope your video on Mark proved to be the best covered on him so far. Would highly appreciate if u would also include his less known feats of strength particularly his grip strength feats and that ship anchor lift in a similar way to Angus as claimed by him.
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I dont trust dr terry todd, in his book "inside powerlifting" he dissed paul anderson and claimed HE was stronger than anderson becouse he could close a gripper that anderson couldnt close. todds best squat was 700 while andersons was 1200, and anderson did 800 for reps easy.
Wow Paul Anderson what a side press!!!
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Fantastic video 👍👍
Thank you 👍
Great video, really.
Glad you liked it!
I remember Paul Anderson very well. He was very quick and a good man according to everything I've read.
Do you have a video about Anthony Clark (RIP)? One of the great superheavyweight powerlifters of the 1990s and probably the best "reverse grip" bench presser ever. Thought of him because he had a very similar body type to both Anderson and Cyr.
Hey sorry I don't, primarily because I tend to make videos on equipped lifters
Cyr had more raw strength and was able to do feats such as his famous 517lbs stone to shoulder. However, Paul actually trained lifting techniques which allowed him to reach greater numbers. It's hard to directly compare them due to the difference in eras and the lifts they performed
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As always, hard to compare era’s. 2 incredible historic athletes.
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@@PaulAnderson-jq1pu Your basement, bot.
I don’t care what anyone says 900lbs for 10 reps is otherworldly. Pat Casey and John Grimek saw Anderson do this in the gym, mind boggling strength.
Man is rivaling Gorilla
@@chimpxi Lol but nowhere near a gorilla's strength. It may seem strange to humans but virtually all animals are stronger than they look. I think the strongest humans are about three times stronger than an average person but not much more.
FWIW: Anderson NEVER ever did an actual clean and jerk. In the clip, at the Olympics, no less, he did a clean and push press. It's glaringly obvious. And that was years before he reached full strength. He did a push press off stands with 540-545lbs in front of a crowd at muscle beach in the early 60s. There's a snapshot somewhere of that effort. I counted the plates, and that was 545.
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This is true. They allowed Paul to push press for his jerk, maybe because he could not split very deep or, maybe, because we was, well, Paul Anderson. They were way more lax then.
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How long have you been a fan
Half of Louis Cyr's records still stand today.
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in the 1800, Louis Cyr had no modern training nor chemical 'supplements' and high-tech equipment. So hard to say who's on top really! :D
2:10 DID U CASUALLY JUST FLASH ON THE SCREEN THAT ANDERSON CUD SQUAT 900x10
He could squat 900lbs x 10 and deadlift (with straps) 1000lbs
@@StrengthUniverse Jesus that’s such an insane set it doesn’t compute
What about the Canadian Doug Hepburn?
Paul Anderson was The Man !!! Great video!!!
That he was. Cheers Paul, pleased you liked it
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@@PaulAnderson-jq1puright on the Georgia Tennessee state line ..you do some really good work
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Amazing, can we chat somewhere private?
Paul was and is the strongest man ever, hands down.
Bill Katz has always been one of my favorites. He is certainly one of the strongest to ever live. You can't deny the insane strength of John Haak. John is probably the strongest person pound for pound to ever live.
Not very sure, we don't know the strongest Person ever lived, in thousands of Years there could be much bigger and stronger Guy's lived...?!
@@31stoffl recorded he said
@@lordmegatron6145He really didn’t.
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Anderson was training and taking « vitamine »… you can’t compare any past athletic performance with today. The ways of preparing for competition is much more specialized
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Both was the freak of nature. Unlike Ppl nowdays who's freak of steroids.
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Did Paul really squat 1200? If 900x10 was legitimate he must have been pretty close. Great video as always
He did lots of heavy partial lifts. His heaviest authenticated squat was 930lbs which is still crazy impressive.
The 900 x 10 is almost certainly legit. It was witnessed by John Grimeck, who was a stickler for proper form.
Anderson's 1200lbs effort was apparently done in front of a crowd, and was deemed high. Apparently he knew it, so he's said to have attempted a second rep on the same set, but again was high.
But no one ever specified what constituted "high". To parallel? That's likely, which is still impressive.
@@roderickreilly9666 He was a monster of a lifter, but I think of lot of his claims were just that… claims. The History channel showed his silver dollar squat was likely about 400lbs less than stated. And his own daughter weighed a safe he used in his back lift after he died since she had doubts of her own, and the safe weighed much less than he claimed and supported why it was removed from the Guinness Book of World Records. His official 930lb squat is impressive even today, but his legend is boosted by exaggeration
@@sethticer5108 : I KNOW all that, and I cited exaggerations. Did you read my comment and other comments completely? I also added little known anecdotes not covered by the likes of the History Channel or even this video. Did you see those? I was very much alive back then, AND I debunked his backlift claims, and I added locations with lots of witnesses and even mentioned a verifiable photo at Muscle Beach for the 540-545lbs push press. Ok? Thank you!
Wilt Chamberlain cleared the high jump and then flipped the platform over with one hand
Imagine THESE MEN ON A SIMPLE STACK OF TEST & EQ 12 WEEKS with TODAYS DIET REGIMENTS
In my opinion, Louis Cyr was the natural strongman ever, Paul Anderson was the world strongest man in history (Not natural)
i always wonder how angus macaskill or andre the giant would ACTUALLY compare in strength to the likes of brian or hafthor. probably not actually as strong, but i think they could have potentially been stronger had they the right training. just freaks of nature.
Andre was witnessed doing 5 reps with 455 in the incline press with no experience in that lift or any other. May even have been his only time in a lifting gym.
Andre had tremendous natural strength and a huge frame. The only question mark is he seemed to have a lot of joint/health issues especially as he got older. I don't know enough about Angus to comment. I think NBA great Shaquille O'Neil would have had potential to be a great Strongman.
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Not taken Precurser Testosterone into consideration MT was around by 1918 and used again during the Spanish Civil War and Testosterone Suspention was around in the 1930's also bar technology Cyr never had a decent lifting bar.
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@@PaulAnderson-jq1pu Hi Rep Gym UK and i am an ex World Champion and multi times world record holder myself , Fred Hatfield was a very good friend of mine i never knew when to believe him but he told me he was a decendant of Cyr.
does anyone know when spinning barbell were introduced ? surely that makes ahuge difference
Didn't Cyr have a one-arm press of 313 lbs?
Only according to the movie.
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@@StrengthUniverse well the movie must have gotten this info somewhere its not a usa movie its a québec movie and it was surely build with real fact else it would insult louis cyr who hated fake stuff
Paul Anderson by a long shot of course ... can you imagine what he could have done with modern training and modern PEDs?
Any p.e.d's
about 15% better
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IMO the three strongest men ever would go in this order
1. Samson carrying the gates of Gaza 40 miles up hill , the gates of Gaza weighed 21,400 lbs
2. Louis Cyr pulling 4 horses together each horse has the pulling power of 8000 lbs that's 32, 000 lbs of pulling force
3 . Paul Anderson's 6000 lbs back lift
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When at a horse pulling show I met a draft horse expert who was NOT impressed with the Cyr vs horse performance. He was well aware of this feat by both Anderson and boxer Jack Johnson. He claimed that if the man offered any resistance the horses would "pull their punches" and stop pulling hard. I then asked some others there and they said the same thing. I never tried it myself so I will just have to suspend my belief or disbelief in those man vs 4 horsescontests until I see it tried by someone much stronger than I.
Te faltó nombrar a Hércules o Thor.....
Funny how the more available recording devices become the more tame strength claims become
Well, no, regarding most of Anderson's lifts here. He never cleaned and jerked 480 lbs. in a comp nor in an exhibition. He did 440 lbs. And, yes, his back lift was not witnessed by anyone, just a claim as was his max squat, a number that moved around, usually higher, over time. Later in exhibitions, he did that one arm side press but the weights were grossly inaccurate. Some of the plates were the old plastic, cement filled Sears plates. No, again, to 900 X 10 reps in the squat. No, to him push pressing ~540 lbs. at Muscle Beach. Definitely no to a 1000 lbs. deadlift, with or without straps. In the video shown here, I believe he dropped 725 lbs. always blaming his deadlift on small hands, that or claiming he didn't want to exceed his old friend, Bob Peoples. Anderson WAS extremely strong and he seemed to peak around 1955 at age 23. His Olympic Games total a year later were already lower. He was as heavy as he ever was by 1955. In the absence of steroids, a man in his prime (early 20s) is at peak strength and gains are almost always limited to bodyweight gain. There was no reason for Anderson, who often missed presses around 400 lbs. and who push pressed 440, to suddenly find another 100 lbs. of upside at Muscle Beach. So, about a 440 presser and jerk, too. That was also his best clean. A 335 snatch showing he WAS athletic. He said his bench press was a weak lift for him, no photographic evidence of him ever doing more than ~450 lbs. not that he couldn't if he had tried or specialized. Dr. Terry Todd used to tell him that he couldn't keep raising his lifts every time someone exceeded one. When Pat Casey made news as the first man to bench press > 600 lbs., suddenly Anderson started claiming a larger bench press number. Great lifter? Yes. His record total in Olympic lifts was matched coincidentally by the very next American super heavy, Gary Gubner. Anderson's lifts were not like Bob Beamon's long jump, by comparison. What an iconic figure, for sure, just like Cyr.
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@@PaulAnderson-jq1pu Texting from Texas and not too far from where I first saw Paul Anderson at a powerlifting meet doing an exhibition way back around 1969. He'd only continue doing lifting exhibitions for a few more years before he stopped and then, as I recall, did public speaking, also acted as a commentator on TV such as for the WSM contests and more. Quite a man!
As for the 545 push press, there is a picture of him doing 4x45, 2x35 and 1 5 (or 10) pounder on each side.
@@DrLeroyArch I've seen that photo where Anderson is standing in front of a home's porch. His arms are slightly bent, no issue there with me since it means his pressing muscles were engaged, and he has a rather relaxed expression. What isn't clear, since we should know he certainly couldn't clean that weight, is how he got the bar into position to push press it. All of Anderson's jerks were the harder push press version by the way. One might read Dr. Terry Todd's account of Paul Anderson's strength claims. They were close friends and trained together at times. Too, check out the faces of the much stronger men who have competitively jerked ~565 lbs. The greatest super of all time lives among us right now, Lasha Talakhadze, and he looks overwhelmed the few times he has jerked that much poundage.
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These old time stro gman intrest me.
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IMO Cyr was the pure all natural athlete. He lived in an age where the science of lifting & nutrition was just beginning. Anderson much later where related science is exponentially more advanced. If someone wrote The ART of War in our age, it's perhaps worthy of a doctorate thesis. Except Sun Tzu lived >2k years ago which made him a legend beyond a genius. So who's smarter? I'd say Sun Tzu & in the same vein, Cyr was the stronger man.
Cyr was i believe, would hand any competition there arse at any given time it was needed. Wait a minute, yeah im sure of that as that is what he did.
Good strong boy's..no drugs..herman gorner.....he was the strongest...and still is....
Paul Anderson had access to anabolic steroids so he can be on the same level as Cyr
No he didn't
@@StrengthUniverse He almost certainly was. Anabolic steroids were being widely used by the Americans and Soviets by the 1952 Olympics where Anderson won his gold.
@@doublem1975x. The use of steroids in weightlifting was first discovered after the USSR started dominating the sport in 1954 It was at that stage that the American Weightlifters doctors found out that the soviets were using Testosterone and started work on his own PED (Metandienone). Metandienone wasn't released until 1958. Andersons Kidney illness would also have made the use of PED's highly unlikely
@@StrengthUniverseDon't you think that illness was a result of steroids use?
@@ezequielrivera5480 He suffered from the kidney disease (Brights disease) since he was a child.
Mark henry!
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Paul Anderson is the strongest man to ever live.
If you could have both Louis and Paul today with the training techniques and steroids/PED's then who would be the stongest ?
Now that is a hard question to answer as they both had comparable natural talent.
Would we see numbers like 520kg DL, 350kg Bench, 500kg Squat. Wow !!!
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Th real Paul Anderson (World Champion lifter) died in 1994 so I don't know who you are.
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Hafþor 2018-2020.
Anderson was stronger by a mile, it was a different age and better training methodologies were available. Cyr was surpassed as Canada's strongest ever by Doug Hepburn, who in turn was surpassed by Paul as THE strongest ever at the time he made his lifts.
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Louis Cyr was 178 cm (5’10”)
He was between 5'8 and 5'9
@@StrengthUniverse Most contemporary sources like the Montreal Gazette have him listed at 178 cm. I’ve been to his museum in Quebec and they have him described as 178 cm (5’10”).
@@doublem1975x every reliable source I have found including the Stark Centre have him at the heights I have stated
I have seen several sources and most of them list him 5'8" - 5'9".
Cyr by far
Paul wins this battle. Nice video. Wish we had some footage of Louis though. But the Strongest ever is Hafthor Bornsson.
Thank you, would have be awesome to have real footage and I agree about hafhor
Both were the strongest in their respective eras.
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pero como pueden comparar un levantamiento de manos y muslos con un levantamiento de cadera con arnes pues en este ultimo se levanta mucho mas peso de todas formas paul anderson fue mas fuerte que el gran luis cyr
Evolution would back Anderson
Paul anderson's back lift was recognized by Guinness. For many years.the Recent generation has removed him from their 'official" list.
It was removed from 1985 due to a lack of evidence
No one verified the weight of the lift as no one official was present. In fact, his own daughter questioned the validity and had a safe weighed after Paul died that was used in the back lift, and it was much lighter than stated.
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I believe we must examine the top strongmen of our modern era to identify the strongest individual in history.Or, it might have been Angus Mackaskill, or another giant. But even extreme big people need years of training to reach any level close to Big Z or Hafþór Björnsson.
I can say that while Angus was probably very strong none of his lifts were verified and they were all absolutely exaggerated. In my opinion Hafthor of 2018 onwards is definitely a contender and will be featured in a later video examining where he sits amoung histories greats
It may be Eddie hall, or possibly even someone like Jesus Olivares who has a crazy total
I've said for a long time the best way to measure pure strength is to look at both pushing and pulling in all directions around the body, plus grip (because you can't pick anything up without strong hands). Practically, that means six movements: 1) floor push (squat or equivalent) 2) floor pull (deadlift or equivalent), 3) overhead push (strict press), 4) overhead pull (pulldown), 5) horizontal push (bench press), and 6) horizontal pull (row) plus maximum crush grip. Because we don't have complete data for every one of those lifts, we can only narrow it down to a list of people we think deserve consideration.
Interestingly, the closest we have to a competition testing all those in one go right now is the Shaw Classic.
@@StrengthUniverse It reminds me of the time when I requested u to make a video on history's top 10 strongest people since 1950s onwards. Eagerly waiting for that video.
I'd say the strongest of all time would be Thor, Eddie, Big Z and then followed by these two gentlemen alongwith Kaz and Mark Henry. Brian might make the list too.
Is this 4 real???????
Why didn't you put up that picture of Paul Anderson in the GB of World Records 1972 doing a dead lift of 6270 lbs..'it's a World famous picture.?
There is no picture of Anderson doing a 6270lb backlift
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ANDERSON NEVER DID A 6200 lbs backlift, nor even the Guinness listing of 5645 or whatever. Some guys with Ironman Magazine did an analysis of Anderson's claimed 5640 backlift, and concluded that it was more like 4500-4800, which still exceeds Cyr's effort.
As I said in the video, both lifts were surrounded in controversy .Cyr's Backlift is believed to have only been 3000-3300lbs
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Paul was clearly stronger.
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Germany. I even have a handwritten letter of the Dixie Derrick. His GSD he had as a child was named "Liebchen" :)@@PaulAnderson-jq1pu
Very close battle indeed between the strongest ever in their respective eras. I'd say both are still within the 5 or 10 strongest ever. Only Thor, Eddie, Big Z and a handful of others if any are stronger than these two.
watching PA's side press... just wow... he picked it up like it was NOTHING!!!
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@@PaulAnderson-jq1pu hell... hopefully your about to join me since you've been dead for 60 years...
stop trying to troll
This pretty much matches my assessment of the two. It's very difficult to compare the two without objective weight and method comparisons. Let's just say they're each the greatest of their generations.
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Even if it's only 1cm, the 6000+ back lift is insane.
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Strongest ever might be Don Reinhoudt. RIP
Didn't realize he had passed. RIP - and if not the strongest he was definitely up there!
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I think anderson Use drugs and cyr not
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cyr have the brute foece not this kid
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If Cyr was alive at a time when strongmen were actually training and lifting weights and not just performing circus stunts it's no doubt he would have been towards the top but Paul Anderson was still probably stronger.
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It's possible that the strongest man ever was Angus Macaskill from Cape Breton Nova Scotia, born in the 1830's. He was 7'9" and normally proportioned - no acromegaly (gigantism), and was a performing strongman, including with the Barnum circus.
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Back when the strongest men on the planet were chubby manlets ...
Tall people (usually) don't have the leverages to lift massive weights without resorting to unnatural means to fill out their frames. The few exceptions to this I can think of include Mark Henry and Terry Hollands (who competed naturally at the beginning of his career).
@@thatguyfrommars3732Mark was not really that tall around 6.1-6.2 . He is often referred to 6.3 or even 6.4 but in reality he was around 6.1-2 mark. He appeared taller than that though.
Speaking about tall people, I find it interesting to think how Paul wight ( Big Show in wwe) and Andre rene rousimoff ( Andre the giant) would have done in the world of strongman. By all accounts, both men were unbelievably strong. A great Olympic weightlifter and the 4 time Us national champ and record holder in clean and press, clean and jerk and snatch Ken Patera told Dr. Terry Todd in an interview had Andre took a couple of years off from pro wrestling and trained like how top lifters do and made a close relationship with pharmacists, he would have broken the world records in both raw deadlift and squat. He was over 500 lbs without any lifting and steroids. With lifting and roids, he would have been also considerably heavier. By every reports , his pulling strength was legendary but his pushing strength was not that great according to Billy Graham.
On the other hand, u have another monster Paul big show wight who unlike Andre actually worked out in the gym during his younger years but sadly lost interest growing older. He had great pushing as well as pulling strength. According to Dr. Terry Todd, Big show back around 1999-2000 by working out actually build his upper body even bigger than Andre who was naturally a bigger boned giant. Having seen both the giants during their time up to close Dr. Todd noted that while Andre had no interest in lifting any weights or work out his natural strength was otherwordly as he could easily lift, move and flip cars. On the other hand Big show was freakishly strong too and by working out he not only made bigger upper body than Andre but also had one of the widest shoulder at that time in the world very close to Mark Henry who Dr. Terry pointed out had perhaps the widest shoulder recorded between mid 90s to even until 2012. Dr. Todd said that although Big show was very strong in his shoulder, he never pushed himself in the gym.
@@abhinavkumar547 I can maybe believe 6'2" for Mark because he looks a little taller than 6'1" Eddie Hall and at the same time 6'3" Zydrunas Savickas is a little taller than him. I also agree about Andre the Giant and Big Show. With that size and with proper training they both could have put up huge numbers in the squat and deadlift. A shame Big Show never really trained his lower body the same as his upper body as his legs were noticeably lagging in comparison.
Such comparisons of people who lived a long time ago have no basis in reality, and the numbers can be anything from 1 to 10,000
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Paul who? There's only two men Angus MacAskill and Louis Cyr. Some say Louis others say Angus and no one says Paul.
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I don't understand your reasoning for professing Anderson was without doubt natural, He was born in 1932 so could of benefited from test and d bol.
As is explained briefly in the video Test was isolated and synthesised in germany in 1935. The compound was first detected in sport in 1954 when the USSR began to dominate weightlifting. It wasn't until after this that the US team doctor Jogn Zeigler started working on his own PED that would eventually be released as Dianabol in 1958, long after Anderson had finished competing. I will be making a detailed video that explains everything in far more detail
@@StrengthUniverse You're saying Anderson finished competing at 26?
Certainly testosterone would have been available, and from his mid 20's Dbol.
@@MrRorySteel his last competition was 1956, 2 years before Dbol was released. Test was not used in strength sports outside of the USSR and possibly Germany until after 1954.
@@StrengthUniverse Very early retirement.
I stand by my assertion he used test though, that was widely available in various forms in the early 20th century
@MrRorySteel It was an early retirement, he wanted to capitalise on his fame and earn some money. Test was not widely available in various forms in the early 20th century and even if it were, something you are not considering is that Paul Anderson suffered from serious kidney aliments since he was a child, if he had used test he would have passed away a lot younger then he did
Hey guys,does anyone knows Paul Anderson deadlift record?
Raw 820lbs, with metal hooks (similar to straps) 1000lbs
@@StrengthUniverse ty strenghtuniverse!
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Big Z is the strongest man to ever walk the 🌎
No, it's Hafthor Bjornsson.
@@giovannicupello1977 🤣🤣 dude Big Z has entered over 400 competitions and won over 300 Thor had the potential to be in the conversation until that dumb fight with Eddie Hall
Peak Eddie is Stronger. But the "Strongest Ever" is Peak Thor. He was another level of a Monster.
@@alec_m50 Eddie Hall is an overrated one hit wonder everytime him and Big Z went head to head he lost 🤣
@@charles-mp9nt theseassholes never understand brother