Safer Fractal Wood Burning (Lichtenberg) Setup
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2022
- CW: Fractal Burning/ Lichtenberg
Warning: Do not try this at home. This video is purely for educational purposes and is not an instructional video. Improperly trying to replicate this could result in serious injury or death.
I recently received a lot of traffic on a video I made showing a piece of wood that I burned using the lichtenberg wood burning, or fractal burning, method. Unfortunately it was a lot of negative comments. I learned that the sudden upswing in views and comments was due to a video put out by Ann Reardon @HowToCookThat stating the dangers of this hobby. This video is in response to the stir that created on my video and not directly in response to her video itself. Again, do not attempt this at home.
Thanks for watching!
My set up includes a neon light transformer (30mA) which puts out much less current than the standard microwave transformer (500mA). While it will not immediately stop your heart like a microwave transformer that does not make it safe. This is also not a car battery wood burning set up though it could technically be converted to be
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Electronics instructor here, we built Jacob's ladder out of the neon transformers out of neon signs between 10 and 15 kw and yes, they are very dangerous. Having the safety implements you have (we do to) makes this safe as well as the learning environment. We always stress the safety when ever we are dealing with this type of voltage and current. Your neon transformer is safer than most other setups I have seen. Explaining the why as well as demonstrating your techniques makes this memorable. Great fractal design!!
Oh come on. She did not start a “witch hunt”. She presented factual information with the intent of warning people so others didn’t die or get seriously injured. She sure as hell didn’t tell anyone to “go leave mean comments.”
The witch hunt is the folks reporting videos that have nothing to do with what Ann was talking about. She didn't intentionally start a witch hunt and I have no issue with her video. I've repeated this multiple places
@@TheFishinDad well I’m glad to know you’ve been trying to clear that up because that’s definitely what it seems like from the way it was phrased. I didn’t read through your comments so I didn’t know.
@@bloop6111 yes I agree I should've phrased that better. I know what her intent was and I agree with it. Unfortunately people don't understand that what she showed and wanted actually has nothing to do with videos that come with warnings or safe practice. They also don't understand that she was talking about MOTs which will kill you instantly, not the 200x lower output rated NSTs like the one I use here. Even though we both state it in our videos. I think people are simply in a frenzy over anything with the word fractal in it and as she seems very intelligent I dont believe that was her intent.
@@TheFishinDad for sure, I think if she was condemning anyone it was the people who teach random people how to make the sketchy microwave ones and don’t mention the dangers.
I hope the frenzy cools down for those of you using warnings and safer equipment. I can understand why you’d feel frustrated when that’s suddenly happening to you out of nowhere.
@Cirno I’ve taken it into consideration but due to having already talked it out with The Fishin’ Dad in a calm, mutually respectful manner an entire month ago, I do not have any need to seethe at this time. But thank you for your suggestion and I will consider seething about other things in the future.
there is nothing wrong with educational videos. the problem came when other youtubers presented this as a fun easy at home craft that anyone can do. anyone playing with microwave transformers is at serious risk of death, regardless of experience. that's an important fact that 95% of these fractal wood burning videos forget to mention. fortunately for me i watch styropyro and he has warned against the dangers of playing with microwaves for years. i feel really bad for all the people who actually died when they thought there were just doing a fun project
That is the viewers area of concern. I mean If you see a procedure that used uncontrolled current shooting out of the end of a nail to make a beautiful piece of art then decide to take that up with no experience in the field. Not even observing other artists doing this in person. Then you will get hurt or even die. It clearly isn’t finger painting.
When did posting a video make you a guardian of the masses. We are responsible for our own actions. If a child does this they are clearly not supervised or the dangerous tools are not secured. The electrical source alone is complicated and for good reason. I know as a child I may have tried to pull that off but would be stopped. I don’t even have to think to hard about that. There were 4 of us but that did not help stupid. If anything if only helped stop the stupidity faster. Yes I said stupid. I can’t think of a better word for it.
Emulating anything you see on the internet at face value is stupid.
You can't see that happen to wood and think, wow, this is a fun and safe project
@@lizbarber4151 To tell the truth, there is no more danger than welding. Same application, different material...a more dangerous material when welding. In fact, have seen this done using welders as a safety flip out feature. I guess welding is stupid. Like everything in life, its only unsafe when you dont have a "full" understanding of the function. Same as welding. Now welders are an everyday item in many households and many people perform this function while not being professionals. They are hobyists. The quipment is sold full scale. The big scare with this is for protection of artistic value. They dont want everyone doing the same thing as what happened to welders.... many want to keep this artistic style in a small circle. Keeps the price high! Easiest way is to scare people. 33 people have died performing lightning on wood since 2016. All these cases reported death by electricution. Such as touching wet wood areas while electricity is applied. Go figure the level of intelligence required there. Since 2016, just over 1000 people have died from welding related injury, ranging from electricution to inhalation of poisonous fumes. 256,000 serious injuries are reported in the same time peiod. Yet...you dont see these sort of injuries reported nearly as much as for this. CZcams is not the problem...people with negative outlooks that see themselves as stupid....or people trying to protect a valuable source of income while scaring the beejesus out of others. When someone build s a kit, places direct intelligable instructions of use with it, along with safet data..... this will become household product. At moment...no one wants to do that...rather they put a CZcams video with no real safety valuation and just say dont do this at home which is saying...DO this at home. If you think it is dangerous...and you place it on youtube, without all the safety issues because you want to protect your income source... then you are directly responsible for those that die doing it. Dont do this at home is not a good enough protection for your concience when someone dies. Place the safet requirements with the fukin video!
@@sqnhunter You are completely wrong in every detail
@@bilbo_gamers6417You are as stupid as your comment. As one who holds the relevant degree´s for such things...MSc. MENG. and PHD EE., I see your response solely as an uneducated panic merchant, because people have died. There are around 31,000 electrocution in the US every year, of which around 1000 people die in incidents related to electrocution. Over the last 8 yeas, 31 people world wide, not just in the US have died from this form of art. US stats are 20 deaths and 5 injuries. The sole problem with fracking wood, is uneducated people trying to do this. Like everything...the use of electricity is dangerous if you are not trained. Like welding metal, most people take it to a professional to do, and yet, same people, still have welders at home and die from using said welders occasionally. negligence being the contributing factor there. Since the education of the public in welder use has become an everyday thing, the numbers of deaths have dropped dramatically over the decades. Same as for fracking wood. Negligence and lack of education is the main killer. There needs to be more education. However, while the concept is new and people want high prices for this art, no one is in a hurry to place education out there. I personally have over 2200 pieces or fracked wood art that I have done... I just like the effect, so did it ... but I have the education to do it. Not so all youtubers. And no, I do not support just anyone doing it...but I don't support fear among the public either. This will not go away...its gaining momentum as a form of decorative design and as such requires the public education.
Nothing she did comprised a "witch hunt".
Of course, like almost anything, there are sensible and stupid ways to do it. Your method is pretty sensible with some safety precautions being taken, however the vast majority of videos showing how to do this do not have any safety measures in place and show an extremely dangerous method.
And it's not up to anybody to tell someone else how they should do anything.
It's not his responsibility to make sure your kid doesn't mess with your electrical equipment. It's yours.
Even though it is dangerous, your set up is super sensible. So huge kudos for that
The implementing of the dead man circuit is everything when it comes to safety
Still absolutely moronic and not sensible at all
I think that your unite is one of the SAFEST Fractal Burning devices that I have seen on CZcams. I have been watching these kinds of videos for over ten years. Keep being safe and making beautiful works of art.
Your setup is definitely very safe when compared so many videos out there.
Ann's video was towards instructional videos that were focusing on Microwave setups, which you also agree are dangerous.
I absolutely agree. Most of the videos I've seen are extremely dangerous. Unfortunately most people are unable to make the distinction between the two practices. I appreciate that you are
For my set up, I bought a transformer specifically made for fractal wood burning and set up a plastic table on a giant rubber mat. I ran 15 feet of extension cord to my house and plug it in from 15 feet away, I have a camera on the surface to watch until it's done, I unplug the device and go grab my wood. It may seem over kill, but be damned if I'm going out like that lol. Nice set up!!
That's excellent. I work with high voltage and x-ray builds at my regular job and overkill is the name of the game. Even with the set up you have I'd still incorporate a foot switch. All it takes is forgetting you didn't unplug it one time. Layering shut offs helps decrease the human error factor by a lot
awesome safety oriented video! when you grab the electrode one at a time, It is analogous to treating every gun as it is loaded. Well done! I just set-up a similar system for my fractal wood burning. I also plan to where rubber gloves, just as a further safety level.
I can see how your setup is safe, and the end product looks really cool. Overall, you seem pretty level-headed and knowledgeable. However, Ann Reardon's video specifically talked about the dangers of using a microwave transformer for the electricity and a set up very different from yours. Laypeople just see "fractal wood burning" and think it's all the same thing. Ann Reardon's channel focuses on cooking and debunking "hacks", and her main audience (myself included) probably don't understand the intricacies of how electricity works. I'm sorry that you had to deal with so many negative comments, but I don't think the original video was intended to be a witch hunt. Unfortunately, influencers can't exactly control the actions of their audience.
Oh I completely agree. I should've been more clear that I have no qualm with Ann or her video whatsoever. I don't believe inciting that was her goal at all, just an unfortunate and unintentional side effect
@@TheFishinDad I too was hoping it was just unfortunate wording, and that you didn't actually mean to accuse Ann of (deliberately) starting a witch hunt (which infers deliberate action) against you (or anyone else, save for YT decision-makers - maybe!)
You use the word "influencer". That makes you a mega douche
@@bearsharkp3901 If using an accurate phrase makes me a "mega douche," then call me Summer's Eve.
That is very cool, & thank you for showing your smart, 2-stage safety setup. Your warnings remind me of a sticker on my brother's toolbox, "Stupid hurts."
I like that you added the foot pedal. Two other safety features I've thought of is to add a 1"-2" red light that will let you know if the power is on. The other is to use something like the orange rubber safety fencing around the work area with a light weight door/gate. The gate would be controlled by an electric lock. If the power is off, it's unlocked. If the power is on, it would automatically lock. On/Off switches and foot pedals can fail. This is one of those things that you can't be too safe with. Happy woodworking!
Better insurance is to just make sure you turn off and remove the fuse...some fuses have stuck on under continual flow and heat. Thay are supposed to switch off...but turning off and disrupting the fuse will disrupt the electricity....only secure way.
All Ann Reardon is doing is fighting for the rules to change on dangerous hacks. She highlights the potential dangers that aren't always being disclosed by creators/channels. Props to you for showing an awesome setup by the way you clearly know what you are doing, but not everyone is as skilled as you are which is where the problem is.
Thank you and I totally get that. I should've worded myself better in the video. I don't have any issue with Ann or her video. My comments were directed toward the commentators that seemed to not realize there were differences in practices, power and safety when it comes to pyrography involving electricity, and who felt the need to be rude about it. I totally understand where you're coming from and understand the intent behind Ann's video. People are upset that I said it caused a witchunt, but whatever label someone wants to apply to those commentators actions, I don't mean to hold Ann responsible for it and don't believe that was the intent of her video
@@TheFishinDad Oh absolutely, it's another problem entirely that some people take Ann's video to mean harassing every person who has done fractal wood burning, sorry you got the shitty end of that. A simple solution would be to just go back and edit in clear warnings like you have done.
At the end of the day the reason it's a hack is because it's using a microwave transformer, where as you have a much more evolved way of doing it?
Ann needs to stay in the kitchen and play with the food videos, she is just trying to find more content for her channel and she is branching out into fields she does not understand.
@@JamieTresor That's a very sexist comment. Why would she not understand it? She is not making claims with no evidence. Her only claims are backed up with photos, news reports, and interviews.
Stupid man
@@TheFishinDad then go and word it better in the video so others dont see it as a 'witch hunt'
You do you man. There are lots of things people complain about but hey they are doing them. Sucks to suck. I’m here at my house researching this project to learn a new technique, so thanks for making this video
ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS I'VE SEEN ON THE INTERNET SO FAR. LIFE IS HARD . IMBECILES HAVE TO LEARN THE HARD WAY. THIS IS ELECTRICITY. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THEN DON'T DO IT. I JUST LOVE THIS WORK OF ART.
For the people that posted comments saying he should take his video down ......Driving a car can also be very dangerous but we keep it relatively safe by following some basic rules.
Just like doing lichtenberg burning can be safe if you follow some basic rules. No need for irrational fear
You have a great instructional video with easy to understand general safety mixed in. It’s great that you emphasize safety throughout the video. As a career AFOSH inspector, I would recommend also including some tips on using electrical safety PPE for the equipment operator. Also, many people will have kids around the home or shop and they’ll see mom or dad doing these burns. Definitely remind the adults to keep these tools out of reach of the kids. This looks like loads of fun to mischievous kids. Curiosity will get them in trouble when they are unsupervised. Lastly, because many people might have kids running around and playing nearby, the burning area should always be blocked off in some manner to proactively prevent accidental contact with the equipment… that sort of thing can happen in the blink of an eye.
To be honest I was afraid of doing a full instructional video and made this one as kind of a reactionary thing to mitigate some of the fear mongering. I might do a full instructional at some point but even though people might take this as instructional I dont want them to. The most responsible recourse is probably to put it all out there in a full instructional with proper PPE and show what OSHA standards would be if this was an Osha enforceable thing. As I type this I realize it is something I need to do since this misses a lot and regardless of my intentions people will follow this so I need to put all the info out there. Thank you for this comment, its given me a lot to think about
It’s great that you’re showing your set-up, and telling people how to do this safely. It’s far better to have content where fractal burning is done safely. Witch hunt definitely isn’t the right term for someone looking to save lives, and you don’t need to be so cocky and condescending towards other people. Tagging Anne isn’t right either and is kinda just unnecessary. Karen also isn’t the right word, but I can see why you’d be pissed bout the situation and how things would just slip out. I agree that this is really cool and encourage you to continue cause you clearly know what you’re doing, but please just be a little nicer and stay careful and vigilant. Peace.
I appreciate the feedback and constructive criticism. I hear you. As an aside Ann isn't actually tagged in the "@" it's just part of the title because I am using the opportunity of this controversy to hopefully get more eyes on this and educate more of the people running around to these videos harassing creators and spreading misinformation, as well as those searching for how to do this responsibly
@@TheFishinDad Ohhhhhhhh okay that makes much more sense. I thought you were just tagging her so she would see this video. My bad lol
@@treverthetree "#hoetocookthat" is used as a #. this is youtube, you can't directly tag people, but you can use a # for other people to see similar content. i think is a new thing from this year for yt
@@fa3ephilliz110 Thank you 🙏
Thank you. People do need to mind their business. I am a maker/ finished carpenter, and the type of person who will figure out how to do something regardless. So having you guide me will increase my chances of success and survival by a lot.
Super cool. People jump off cliffs in bat suits. People sail in scary fast racing boats, people deep fry turkeys, and people ride motorcycles. All potentially dangerous (even deadly) activities. If you're paying attention, you don't allow yourself to get distracted, and you're not stupid (i.e. doing this in the rain in bare feet) and you implement some common sense fail safes like two switches then you can create something cool like this. Thanks for the instructive video. Well done.
I'm really glad that Ann's video and yours are at the top of the list when searching for how to do this type of art. There are too many people out there who might think it was a fun weekend project and try to replicate it on a whim. I'm sorry you got some hate comments for it, but I can only be glad it prompted you to share your setup as it should make those people realise they need to put a bit more thought into it. Honestly I thought I knew how dangerous electricity was, but Ann's video made me realise how complacent I really was when it came to it. And yours is a reminder that we have the safety features to deal with it safely, but we must use them. It sounds silly but it's surprisingly easy to forget how much goes into protecting us from a tool we all use constantly.
Think the issue was that people haven't been taking the safety precautions, hence the large number of deaths. This is a good example of the safety precautions needed to protect yourself and others.
I love how you conveniently ignored the placement of the switch on the ground and the lack of safety gloves. Imagine if he tripped on the foot switch and fell onto the wood and got electrocuted to death. And he's using his bare hands to hold those clippers that will electrocute you to death if you just brush against the metal part.
@@magictoxicswitch2300 the placement of the foot switch ensures there is no way for me to touch anything in that vicinity should I trip or get distracted because as soon as my foot comes off it the power shuts off. This comment makes no sense. Also I would have to be grabbing both probes to complete a circuit with my body which is why I show that even while off I grab only one at a time. If you are coming from Ann's video and think this is the same amperage and danger as what she is talking about (which it is not) then you should know that gloves will not protect you and have in one case at least caused more injury because they fused to the man's skin. As I've said all over the comments and in the video itself, this is a neon light transformer (30mA) not a microwave transformer (500mA). The switch is a deadman switch. It cuts power when not depressed. I only see one person here conveniently ignoring things tbh
This is NOT safe, don't get fooled!
Hello, thank you for your informative video. I have a question, when the arcs join does the transformer not short circuit? Thanks in advance
Great video! Thank you for sharing this, it's almost relaxing watching the electricity move through the wood and creating such unique patterns/designs. Also I'm very glad to see someone taking such care and precautions when working with tools such as these. Lastly, I just want to say, the way you ended the video was perfect. "Be smart in real life and in the comments." Take care and thank you again for sharing.
The dead man switch is good and like you said you always work with the probes like they are hot for the rare event of a simple mistake or if something fails. With your set up at least 2 things have to fail and you would need to grab both probes at the same time in order to die. But not everyone is like this, most get complacent. I knew a guy that was a master electrician his whole life, he retired and took this up as a hobby. Wife found him cooking from the inside out one day in the garage from being complacent and not having any safeties. Once it hits you, your muscles lock up, can’t get away from it.
That's horrible and I am very sorry to hear that. I assume he was using a microwave transformer. I wouldn't mess with one of those personally without even more precautions than what I have here. Its true even, and especially, the most experienced sometimes get complacent. Definitely good to have multiple failsafes in place incase you do end up distracted or forget a step
Holy crap! That’s horrible...sorry to read that. This reminds me of cave diving. One can have all the experience as a diver but ignore certain safety measures, and / or don’t have the proper equipment, it’s not going to end well. Goes with just about any activity where potential risk is present I guess.
I was knocked out many years ago from high voltage ~30KV wearing gloves and an insulated tool (or so I thought) - through the insulation! I can't stress enough how important it is to know that most typical insulation (plastic wrapped metal tools and pretty much every glove out there) is useless at these voltages.
This setup is still not what I would consider "safe". The biggest risk here is that you are placing a lot of faith in those switches. If either fails in the closed position, then you've introduced a condition where the piece could be live when you think it isn't, and that's when accidents through complacency happen. If this was all contained within a sealed box with power disconnect switches that are normally open when the lid is up, and closed when it is locked shut, plus e-stops, then I'd say you're getting there. The number 1 thing I would improve is your procedure. You moved those probes without checking for dead at all. That's a cardinal sin for high voltage, and one that puts your life at risk. If you check for dead using a meter before touching anything, then even in the event of literally all the series safety measures failing, you can still identify a live surface that could kill you before you commit to touching it.
Source: HV training & worked as an engineer for a company making high voltage inverters.
Thank you for this well thought out comment. I agree on all fronts. It could definitely always be made safer. There is someone else who made a video that includes most of what you mentioned. I'd also like to add an indicator light (or even 2, incase one goes out) to it so there is a visual identifier but I know that isn't fail proof either obviously. This is currently a simple set up since I don't currently have ventilation in my basement workshop and need to have it easily mobile but ideally what you described would be the safest. I build and test x-rays for a living so do work with high voltage well exceeding whats shown here daily as well
I will add though that it would take both switches shorting at the same time for that to be possible, not either or, and while theoretically possible it would take a lot to cause one to even fail in the closed position coming from a 120v source
@@TheFishinDad For sure, this set up is orders of magnitude safer than some others out there. I'm always thinking in terms of rated cycles for switches, MTBF and whatnot, so the failure of both switches is improbable, but not impossible. I had a colleague who is an electrical engineer. He made the mistake of only having one switch for off, and it failed. He lived, but it cost him two digits on his hand and will likely have a lifetime of chronic health problems relating to the internal tissue damage. The switch failure may have been a matter of time with repeated use, so more is always better. It's good to see people thinking of safety while doing this kind of stuff.
@@TheFishinDad severity and probability. Probably is low, but severity is extremely high; therefore, additional safety measures required.
And another thing, from high voltage training and working on cars (meaning, usually 400V but higher currents): wear safety gloves that are rated for the voltage that you're working with. Even if everything is supposedly turned off, but still plugged in. And please move those metal chairs away. I saw you tripping, or an animal come running or WHATEVER and the whole patio burning.
Thank you I was trying to show my wife ideas for a plaque for the European mount of her first white tail bow kill. I appreciate you showing your methods.
Building one right now, thanks for the details and the safety aspects you have shown.
I think you covered everything no matter how hard you try there are people who DO NOT LISTEN you have the very best you can to make it clear that people better know what there doing or at minimum try to be safe about it
You piece is beautiful by the way
Thank you, I appreciate that🙏
I saw one of the videos showing it as a cool wood working technique without any description of the safety precautions. I never saw the "warning" videos. I'm glad you made this video to clarify that it is dangerous and what to do to be safer. I didn't get that from the original video I watched.
We as a society need to stop blaming others for there own lack of judgment!!!!!!!
All this trouble over art !!! But in the meantime Isis is now in control of Afghanistan is Putin is still killing people in the Ukraine and there's also still at least 1,000 children that have yet to be reunited with their parents thanks to Trump separating them at the border yeah but this is what y'all want to fuss about!!!!!!!!!!!
I've just watched Ann's video which was really informative. This one is also very good and shows how this can be done safely. Really important to have both videos, showing what is possible and warning most people they probably shouldn't do it as they don't have the correct setup.
We all knowing telling people not to do something is tantamount to telling them to do it. It is human nature. Labelling somethng as dangerous without explanation of correct use is pursuant to neglect. MAybe anne should leave the device to the professionals...as this video clearly shows the danger of missuse and the security in correct use. It doesnt try to just remove the tech altogether!
You said, "there's a lot of cool things in this world. You shouldn't do them, if you don't know what you're doing."
Agreed! I couldn't have said it better myself. But if it's not dangerous, it's not cool anymore... Kidding!
Good video, nice job!
Looks like you've taken some good safety precautions with your setup. If I were to suggest one additional thing: An indicator light (or, as bigclive suggested, possibly two, as a failsafe) which is on when the power is on. That gives you one additional warning that the setup is powered, if for example the foot switch sticks, you forget to switch off the secondary switch, and it stops "buzzing".
When severe burns/death is involved, having multiple layers of fail-safe is important.
I couldn't agree more. I was thinking the same
Good idea. Or an audible hum.
"Do not become the path of least resistance...you will die." I love that!
Awesome video. Do you happened to know where I can buy the kit so I can start my project? Thank you
It is cool and I thank you for this example of how to do this work of art as safely as humanly possible 👏🏽
As dangerous as it is you do it the safest way and do not touch it I don’t see anything wrong with someone like you who knows what there doing love it keep up the good work!
Question: I didn't see the table, which is made of wood, been insulated from the actual board been burnt and the wood deck. Therefore, isn't there current traveling to the deck through the table?
@@editek5992well wood is not a conductor of electricity, it requires a solution on the wood to get the fractal burnings.
Thanks for making this video and illustrating several risk mitigations factors. I conduct these projects weekly, but I’ve taken several steps to make it safer. In addition to the electrical safety protocols displayed in this video, I also have a second person with me to ensure that if something happens, they can provide immediate assistance as needed. I don’t work with any power over 30mA. Less than 100mA can be lethal. While 30-35mA can get your attention, make you piss your pants and you’ll forget who you are for an hour, it likely won’t kill you.
I'm glad to hear that and thank you for taking the time to reiterate the reduced risk of 30mA over higher amperage. It may burn a little slower but its definitely worth it. Stay safe my friend
@The Fishin’ Dad, what did you do to properly ground the ground wire from the neon box? Thanks and great video!
Remind all these “saftey Sadie’s” that driving your car is more dangerous than this. That said , be careful. Your set up looks safe as long as you follow safe procedure.
I like the video. If I was to do this myself, I'd definitely consider your setup. However, having working in the construction industry for 34 years and all the health and safety meetings I've been part of over the years, I can understand how many viewers may not realise how incompetent they actually are and then proceed to do this without full care and attention. Well presented tho🙂
Thanks for this breakdown. I came from Ann Reardons video and she does a lot of informational videos about CZcamss piss poor moderation of dangerous videos. I didn't even know fractal wood burning existed before her video and I appreciate this breakdown of your setup as the process is actually really interested, and as with anything can be done safely IF you know exactly what you're doing and how it works. Hopefully the bad actors don't ruin your channel as this is still very cool.
Thank you, I really appreciate that🙏
Same! I’m so thankful she showed me this type of art, and thankfully this guy showed me how I can be safe doing it! Wonder if she is against driving a car? Lot of people die doing that everyday
@@Jonathans_opinions If you can't come up with your own comprehensive safety setup to where you have to copy someone else's, then you should not be doing fractal wood burning. This guy made it somewhat safe relative to the severe danger of the activity, but not objectively safe. Lot of "experts" of this craft out there that turned up dead.
It's is only for the individual to determine what is too dangerous. I'm about to post videos of myself pouring aluminum, that could be considered extremely dangerous, I will not put out a warning, as it's common sense that messing with matters that are over 1000 degrees us dangerous, if someone else tries it, and they get hurt, it's on them.
Thanks for making this video! Its the first one that came up when i was searching to see if i wanted to give it a go.
It's amazing how people can get upset about things they have no idea about. If someone wants to start such a hobby, they should inform themselves anyway. Writing comments to everyone because something is dangerous is absolutely unnecessary. If you don't have common sense, you shouldn't pick up any tools anyway. Thank you for this video, well done.
None of the comments you cherry picked are remotely "hate-comments". They are completely reasonable. Is that the best you could find? That being said, you are clearly being safe. Videos like this one can be valuable, because kids are gonna do what they want, and having safe resources is important. It is also clear you aren't the target of the "Witch Hunt" as you are not using a microwave transformer.
As I mentioned elsewhere I had deleted several comments because they were giving me anxiety before I decided to make the video. Those were the ones that remained. I wish I could've included the one that said they couldn't wait to see me dead on the news and were excited to see that and my house burn down, that I was a bad father, an a**hole, etc because it would've made more sense but I googled it and there was no way to get them back to screen shot them at that point. I worded the witch hunt part badly. It's *because* this isnt even what Ann was talking about that it is a witchhunt imho, and I dont believe that was her intent at all
Its also not just the comments, people are reporting even this video to YT for removal in droves
@@TheFishinDad they are probably reporting your video because of the tone you take at the beginning of the video. They probably don't watch the rest of the video and assume you are part of the problem.
@@vinceagashi1121 fair enough but tone aside, every video with this buzz word is being reported regardless of content
Thank you for the info. Im excited to get started making creations
Isn’t it amazing how many people vilify you when they don’t understand what is going on? I thought you showed exceptional safety practices. Having been a contractor at the high - magnetic lab in Tallahassee, home of the largest magnet in the world. Real danger. Good job again
It's fine when you're making clear how dangerous this is, but those who call this out as dangerous and ask for the removal of dangerous "hacks" are not "Karens". Karens are entitled middle aged women. Admittably I didn't watch your other video, but unless you're making absolutely clear how dangerous it is (which unfortunately needs to be done every single time) you are promoting it, even if you don't want to. Heck even I would like to try it now, because it IS a pretty cool thing. I won't, because I consider it as too dangerous though. No matter how many safety measures there are, I'm sure that there are ways for me to f up.
If you do have those warnings it's completely fine, if you don't I encourage you to add such a warning.
When it comes to Ann Reardon she didn't ask for the removal of all videos which show it, she asked for the removal of videos which show dangerous "hacks". This is not limited to fractal wood burning "hacks".
You have built a safety construction. Good for you. But many don't. Also even when done like this there are ways to kill yourself or set your house on fire. Something which would come to my mind is that you pass out for whatever reason and the pedal is held down until the stuff is burned through. It's unlikely that this will happen to you, but never underestimate the danger. I'm sure that you don't, but this video alone doesn't show it.
When it comes to people who might recreate your setup you should never underestimate the stupidity of people who think that it "won't happen to them". Especially if they'd take "shortcuts". I know that this is not a guide, but that won't stop some kinds of people from trying to recreate it, because it's safer than the "hack" version.
The actions performed in this video are fine in my opinion though. I don't think that's it worth it, but you do you. However I think you should understand where people are coming from.
If people want to call out dangerous practice on videos that show someone being dangerous with it that is fine, and I have no issue with Ann's video. I've done the same on other people's dangerous fractal burning videos before this became a whole controversy. The issue comes in any time we blanket label something as bad, disregarding science and logic for emotion driven intentional ignorance. Again, that is not directed at Ann or her video, that is directed at the peanut gallery who have suddenly become experts after watching one video.
There really is no way to get hit with electricity doing what I'm doing. I wouldn't make such a risky statement if I wasn't 100% certain of that. If I passed out and fell on the foot pedal I would need 4 foot long arms to still get near the board and even then 30mA isn't going to kill me. The deadman switch is designed exactly for the purpose of if something out of your control happens, such as passing out. Yes of course there is the idiot factor as I mentioned before but you would really have to be trying hard or not following the distance precaution to get hit. I understand that people will not follow all safety protocols out of laziness or arrogance but policing that isn't my responsibility anymore than policing someone's driving habits. My intent is to provide information on safe practice. If someone wants to ignore that then it is their choice but at least it is available for those who are actually trying to be safe.
I suppose the definition of Karens might not apply as nearly 100% of the audience on this video have been age 25-34 according to analytics so keyboard warriors looking for a cause to back in order to validate themselves probably would've been more accurate. I have no problem having a polite debate or agreeing to disagree. It's the obviously uninformed people who come into these videos that are not 30 second shorts, that do lay out the dangers and give safety information, and persist to talk down because they watched one viral video that, as you pointed out, wasn't even directed at videos like this.
Ok, Karen.
@@me-ye6ld You clearly have not called "professional electricians" to your home. Some are so professional you go outside to pray.
I don't think method shown here is more risky than general woodworking. Or using chainsaw, picking wild musrooms or cooking with gas stove.
@@me-ye6ld speaking of false equivalencies, fewer deaths from mushroom hunting is a result of greater education and widespread and easily accessible resources on the topic, not that it is less likely to hurt you. True, you can not touch a poisonous mushroom until you're sure of what you have, but you can also not touch an energized probe until you're sure the power is off. I think that is the comparison that was being made and it is an accurate one. If we're looking to make any hobby safer, education and not censorship is the only way to do that and right now the majority of resources on the topic are either saying not to do it at all (which people will ignore) or showing how to do it dangerously. Both are problematic when they outweigh education on safe practice. If the same were true of mushroom hunting there would be a lot more deaths, but as there are thousands of books, videos and articles on how to identify and stay safe that is not the case. Does that make sense?
@@me-ye6ld if you watch the video and read my other replies you'll learn how a deadman switch works. I also can't trip and get electrocuted. Also at the amperage I'm using I would not immediately die. It would suck, very badly, make no mistake, it is still a dangerous amount of current, but this isn't a MOT which will kill you just like that. I've expressed my opinion on those across this comment section
It's ok that you're practicing a safe method. But don't use such words as "witch hunt" . Educate, don't try to be cocky about it.
Fair critique, I appreciate it and will keep that in mind. I did ask my kids if I seemed cocky in it before I posted because I felt like it had, but they're probably not the greatest judge of such things😅
@@TheFishinDad I liked your explanation and understand your point of view. I know you're being targeted even though you are practicing it safely. That's why, i would've preferred a more educative approach.
Here is the definition of witch hunt:
“A search for and subsequent persecution of a supposed witch” or “a campaign directed against a person or group holding unorthodox or unpopular views”. How does that phrase not apply here? People are going out of their way to search for these videos on CZcams for the sole purpose of leaving negative comments. I’d say that’s the exact definition of a witch hunt.
Really dude??? So tell people not to be stupid the nice way and hope they might listen???? 🤮😓
The people that need to see this are not the witchhunters, but the people that are considering fractal wood burning. He is perfectly right to dunk on the witchhunters and be smug about it, because their seething comes from a place of wilful ignorance about the hobby and how he chooses the practice it. His video is ultimately far more educational than anything the hysterics have produced.
Worked with electricity and much higher voltages most of my adult life, great video and reenforcement of safety! Putting mine together and I defaulted with the switch (with built in fuse and indicating LED) and foot petal for the same reasons. I have been trained and overtrained to work with things like this and knowledge is by far the best safety tool.
You truly know what you're doing....
Thanks for the tips...great video
My father and grandfather are both mechanics and I spent my childhood in the car shop. Everything is dangerous if you do not have skills, knowledge or you have them but refuse to follow them because "you have experience" and "you know better". I had zero interest in fractal burning but CZcams is working his weird thing and showed me Anns video which confused me since I thought her channel is about cooking, the branding behind her looks like a cooking channel, and I wanted to see what will I get in YT results and I am so happy I watched your video and heard you and saw your setup. Not in a way now I am interested in trying it, I can't afford to waste electricity at these times of recession and inflation, but as a designer, I am thinking of a way of making a program or code that will generate this illusion as illustration. Would be nice to have a fractal wood design randomly generated by a computer. So, yea, totally not related to what you were saying but hey, more comments more YT algo loves you. Stay safe!
There are already countless programs that can generate fractals of all kinds. Not sure what your level of programing skill is but there are a few approachable tutorials here on CZcams. I suggest Sebastian Lague.
@@Adaephonable Yes, I gave up on that idea, I have a tendency to get 5 business ideas per hour, and I also do not have a filter, I just speak and write what is in my mind at the moment... I researched and I found generators but the images are not good and not SVG quality. I am working on maze generator at the moment so I can't have distractions.
Glad to see someone doing it safely. I’ve seen some of the setups and it’s all janky with wire going every which way and people just asking to get electrocuted. Love the foot switch idea, such a smart fail safe so even if you do try and grab something it cuts the power so you’d be safe anyway. Such a genius set up. It definitely is a cool project to do glad to see someone with a brain doing this.
Thank you so much🙏
@@TheFishinDad no problem I’ve often thought of making a set up, NEVER with a microwave transformer though 👀👀💀, and hadn’t because I couldn’t come up with a fail proof safety. I thought of a hand held butting but like you said instinct is a strong persuader and if I tried to grab a falling item I probably wouldn’t let go of a hand held devise. I’ll definitely have to brainstorm a setup involving a foot switch as safety!
That is so awesome! As an hobby artist and a carpenter, this is something I would love to learn. I really appreciate the steps you have taken to make a safe-work procedure that can be replicated. Thank you for sharing.
I've been wondering how this is done. Thanks for showing us!! 😀
This is really cool. Of course it’s dangerous and you did a great job of explaining the dangers and precautions. If viewers are overly concerned about safety that is a good thing, electricity is hard on careless or stupid people. I define careless as micro bursts of stupidity in otherwise smart people. That being said I am going to work on acquiring the equipment to try this. Any comments about wood type/density having an effect on the outcome?
I have seen some guys successfully burn on hardwoods but I know it's a little more difficult. I have some black walnut I plan on trying but so far I've only used pine. My best guess at this time would be that it probably won't burn as deep with a denser wood so I would start by letting it burn a little longer to see if I could still achieve those same results. I imagine the small "fingers" of the burn may not show up as much though even in doing that
Just pointing out that if ANY of you have ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER or do not know PRECISELY what you are doing or need ANY instruction at all, DO NOT USE ANY KIND OF TRANSFORMER unless you are properly trained and certified in the knowledge of electrical safety.
Great safety tips and instructions. Neat woodworking also. Thanks.
I love this video and your comments! I've wanted to do this forever .... and I have an intelligent knowledgeable husband who could EASILY set all this up for me. I also know I'm the type of person who trips over their own elbow and knocks themselves unconscious while reaching for the toilet paper. So I'll heed your warning and simply sit back and admire your work and setup.
It is cool people aren't being forced to watch
You said "witch hunt" and yet there are no hate comments, just people asking respectfully not to say it.😅 Much love to the people in this comment section 😘
I've deleted the comments saying I dont care about my children if I do this and that my channel should be removed because the whole thing is driving my anxiety. Thanks for the engagement
@@TheFishinDad Hey... calm down.. we are all humans.. we make mistakes and tongueslips do happen. Owning up and apologizing is good. I'm glad people in this comment section are actually kind when i expected bashings...but seems like they are actually Ann's followers and that shows. 🥰
PS: Don't let mere words get into your head.I know it's difficult to do, but it's okay. Realize that nothing is personal. Keep telling yourself that. It's learning from mistakes that make us great humans.Rooting for u too.😘
@@krishnapriyats9504 idk what's kind about calling me an a**hole, a d-bag, saying they can't wait to see me dead on the news and are excited to hear that my house burned down, or that I must not care about my children or other people. Those are some of the latest and greatest. People have been saying "well what did you expect," and that I should take the high road. The thing about abusive tongue lashings and bullying is that even though we can expect it from certain individuals it's not something we should ever simply accept, from strangers to partners. I will continue to call out bad behavior where I see it and continue to try to educate those who's ears aren't closed in their moral panic, and that is all I can do. If the worst retort I sling back is to say that they're being Karens I think that's pretty reserved given the circumstances.
I like it looks safe to me !!! I'm a carpenter of 40 yrs I'm a little nervous but I am all about safety when it comes to big power and it sure looked like your being safe to me. Good job brother
She didn't start a witch hunt, she is trying to stop people from doing something dangerous, she never asked her audience to go say mean things to you or other creators. Yes, your method does seem safer but the people she's trying to protect are people who have no idea what they're doing and are just following a tiktok "hack" or something.
Please refer to my other replies on the same comment. It wasn't my intent to infer she intentionally sent the mob to safe videos or ones that had nothing to do with what she was talking about
Leave Darwin alone please. Let him do his job.
“She” didn’t send anybody…. But here you are… wierd
@@Hood.Housekeepingsame. 😂
At 10KV electricity can jump 18" be aware of that fact amd you cable insulation is rated for 600V ONLY! THIS IS STILL A DANGERROUS DEVICE,
That is interesting, its not what I calculated but maybe you can teach me something. I know different conditions create different arcing conditions but could you please provide the formula that gave you 18 inches at 10kv? With the dielectric breakdown of air on a given day usually being anywhere between 1- 3KV/mm (temp, air pressure, ionization and humidity contingent), it would seem a lot less than that. Like 30KV per centimeter or 75KV per inch from my understanding. Which would mean this would potentially arc a few cm at most
That is a good call on the wire insulation though. Even though I'm not capable of touching it while it's running I should upgrade those regardless
Awesome video. Thank you for the knowledge and safety information.
Looks pretty safe to me. Thank you for the safety info..looking forward to more content.
I don't know what the upside to posting a video like this. It just seems like an invitation for controversy. Sure you said don't do this, but people will, I'd bet big money on that. Lets assume your method is perfect, are the people that follow your instructions going to execute your method perfectly? If they didn't and were harmed wouldn't that make you feel terrible? Which back to the start, what is the upshot of this video beyond, 'hey some controversy to get in the middle of'. What positive comes from this?
I've volunteered the answer that question nearly a dozen times in my replies, you're free to look. If you're not here for controversy then what are you here for? Clearly not education
@@TheFishinDad I guess in my experience on twitter and other social media it has just absolutely sucked and felt terrible whenever I have jumped into a controversial topic. I get that you have a point, the internet freaked out at a disproportionate level and people behaved ignorantly; not everything that is dangerous is impossibly so or incapable of being done better. Still, this feels like a grab at controversy views and I don't understand how those views could ever counterbalance the unpleasantness of the controversy. I also do not at all agree that the educational value of this video outweighs the risk of people hurting themselves by following your example incorrectly. I get it, but strongly disagree.
Also, I hope this came across as a polite disagreement, that was the intent.
@@gregac1984 I appreciate how that was phrased and feel like we can absolutely disagree politely. My full mentality on this is that yes people have died but it isn't because they didn't know it was dangerous. They knew and proceeded anyway. People will continue to do it knowing it is dangerous. I know my first time doing it I looked up the risks involved and the best way to mitigate those but it was a lot more difficult to find information on safety than it should be. You are correct that I am intentionally using this controversy. A video like this would likely be buried under the hundreds of videos showing people being truly careless, and so I took this opportunity to get more eyes on it. A thousand views is going to net me about $1.25, so its not the cost of a candy bar that's motivating me, and the amount of dislikes this video has has reduced my like- dislike ratio enough that it will negatively impact my videos being suggested on CZcams. Ann's video inspired people to run around telling people they're going to die. It inspired me to put out a "how not to die" video because I believe that will actually save more lives than just telling someone who is determined to do something, not to do it and I firmly believe there needs to be more videos teaching people how to be safe. Unfortunately there are already tons of videos showing how not to be so at this point it's just damage control, but that is where taking the opportunity to share this now, on the coat tails of Ann's video, while everyone is talking about it, comes in. Does that make sense?
@@gregac1984 I would like to add, though I'm hesitant to, that my main focus on the set up in this video is the deadman switch. I didn’t even mention that 30mA would suck but is not usually a life threatening unlike a microwave transformer(500mA), so any bit of added safety that someone takes from this is going to help them not get killed even if they don't follow the full setup, which they really should if they're determined to ignore the warnings and attempt it
I can't believe people actually hold the electrodes in their hands and work close to the electrified work table which they can inadvertantly touch, or brush against.
The main problem is that (as far as I'm aware), there are no professionally made fractal wood burning machines on the market. If such machines were available , safety could be engineered in. They could comprise of a cabinet with a door that must be closed before energisation can happen. It could be made as safe as using a microwave or any household appliance .
It seems that you have indeed found a safer way to do this craft ,
I agree , you cannot be shocked if you can't get within 4 foot of the danger zone , without cutting the power supply via the foot switch.
That almost sounds like the perfect solution. I'm sure people would find ways to bypass the latch as they do with bypassing the temp shutoff on laser engravers though. I wonder if any company will be brave enough to take that on in the future.
I've watched some videos that blow my mind with the stupidity of how some people do it though. Fortunately there are a lot of people who do it themselves and will call those unsafe practices out. Unfortunately you can't force those people to be smart
(this is copied and pasted from another comment I wrote)
I love how you conveniently ignored the placement of the switch on the ground and the lack of safety gloves. Imagine if he tripped on the foot switch and fell onto the wood and got electrocuted to death. And he's using his bare hands to hold those clippers that will electrocute you to death if you just brush against the metal part.
@@magictoxicswitch2300 He would have to try very hard to trip over his foot switch , and fall so that he bridges a 4 foot gap hitting the table without taking his foot off the foot switch - or dropping his clippers.
I am generally against fractal wood burning and any misuse of high voltage electricity, but this man does seem to have a safer technique . I didn't say it was absolutely safe , because it is not, it is safer - much safer than most set ups I've seen which involve idiots using microwave transformers and holding jumper leads in their hands and working close to the work bench .
There are two things I can see that could be dangerous in his set up. One is other people , children or adults who play with unattended equipment . The other is if he gets sloppy and undermines his own safety protocols. In this way it is dangerous like many power tools are. A lathe can tear you limb from limb, we all know that, but lathe operators posting on CZcams don't suffer the same online vindictiveness.
I am so against fractal wood burning that I wouldn't even consider buying a work however beautiful it might be , because I wouldn't want to encourage unsafe practices - as it usually does involve.
If however the safety standard of this practice can be improved , I might change my stance.
We are not going to stop fractal wood burning, the idea is out there , it can't be taken back and the gear is cheap and easy to make . What can be done however , is we can allow information to be made public that emphasises the extreme danger of the craft , and safe practices can be promoted rather than inhibited .
@@magictoxicswitch2300 30mA will not electrocute me to death even if it were possible for me to keep the machine on while falling toward it (which it is not, due to the Deadman switch). You are probably thinking of the microwave transformer (500mA) that Ann was talking about. As I mentioned in the video, that is not this. Also if I was working with a microwave transformer, gloves would not be sufficient and could even be more of a danger if improperly rated
Bro I made mine but I liked the foot peddle. do you use water and baking soda or just the piece of wood as is I'm making a memorial piece for a family member that past and I like how that came out
I was wondering if using different nails would adjust the way the current looks and pattern traveling through the wood. Do you have experience with this?
Well, she did a great job at warning about that activity that you insist on nobody should try at home. You're looking for views and money on yt doing something that can be lethal. What did you expect? I think it's a great sign of sanity (something that is becoming instinct) if people finally react the right way. When you put something "educational" on line, it automatically entitles "how to do this yourself". When you go online, you have to accept the consequences.
I would much rather the people who are going to ignore "don't try this at home" warnings do it this way and live than the way that's getting people killed. She warned about 500mA MOT fractal devices with direct plug in. People getting upset don't know the difference between that and a 30mA NST fractal device with dual shut off and a deadman switch. One can kill you, what Ann was talking about, and the other is the one in this video. Thank you for the input but the two are not the same
Which btw, is expressly stated @1:11. I don't think sanity is what is going extinct, rather it's common sense that is becoming less common
Ann looks for views and money as well. Thats why they both have CZcams channels. The Fishin' Dad did a great job explaining his setup and the built in precautions. No one can stop adults from doing something if they want to, all we can do is arm them with as much knowledge as possibly so they can make an informed decision.
Both Ann and The Fishin' Dad did that. They both had there own ways of going about it. She explained how dangerous it is and how easy you can be killed from the typical microwave build. This channel showed a safe alternative to those people that were gonna try it regardless of the hazard.
@@Adaephonable She doesn't go around explaining how to do a lethal activity. DUH.
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You probably save some lives by promoting safety on this subject. Too many CZcams videos are showing insanely dangerous setups. Most insane is when people think they can use rubber gloves holding some clamps while the power is on. Such high voltage can easily jump through even a tiny invisible defect in some rubber gloves. A needle prick through rubber gloves can yield death. The first shock can easily be lethal. This hobby can easily be more dangerous than making your own explosives or fireworks. A friend of me lost his arm on that. People get gradually complacent and suddenly a fatal accident happens.
Dude, great video. I thought it was totally reasonable the way you talked safety and sarcasm simultaneously. 👏 👏 Bravo!!
I think you did a good job of explaining your knowledge & the safety precautions you use.
1. "There's no possible way for me to get electrocuted" sounds like famous last words. Just to be clear, I don't wish you any harm, but while doing a lot to keep yourself safe, you also show lack of respect to electricity. That's what gets people killed. They feel safe, get comfortable and let their guard down.
2. "That's not how electricity works, it's not just going to jump and get me" at those voltages it's not going to jump 4 feet, but spark gaps are a thing and saying it casually again shows that you don't have that much respect to electricity which is concerning.
I am 100% certain there is no possible way for me to get electrocuted at 4 feet away from 10kV. That's not arrogance it's simple math. My confidence in that statement isn't in myself but in the science. The dielectric standard for air being between 1-3 kV/mm, conditions contingent, gives me plenty of space at 4 feet. I am well outside the range of a potential arc or spark gap
@@TheFishinDad You're talking about a spark gap and that's true. What you're not considering is any other failures/possible accidents. As I said, you did make it pretty safe, but saying that there's no possible way to get electrocuted is not true. Ask any scientist why they never say that they're 100% sure about something and they qualify every statement they make. It's because they're well aware that there are things beyond their understanding and that things they did not plan for can happen. Again, I don't wish you ill. I'm just uncomfortable with people saying "I'm 100% sure I'm not going to die" because many people did the same thing and the unthinkable happened. Stay safe!
Stop. Just stop. This practice is banned for display by PROFESSIONALS. Do not show people how to do this.
Lol, here is the perfect example of what I am talking about. The AAW banned displays at their conventions because a member did not follow safe practice and died using a MOT... do you know what that is? Thats what has killed everyone who has died from this. Do you know what my video shows? Something completely different. Do you realize that what Ann's video was about was completely different than what I have shown? Does any of that matter to you or are you too far into your emotions after watching one video about something different that you can't see clearly? Absolute insanity. People are GOING to do this. I'm showing how to not die.
On top of that, it really isn't worth it. It genuinely looks tacky, like something a middle aged spinster would buy for 50 cents in a thrift store. 50 cents is vastly overcharged (lol) btw
I'm gonna re-ask the question I stated in another comment, because I think it's interesting and cool hearing different opinions:
Here there is a pretty interesting point of debate.
Because a lot of people criticize things like what NileRed does. He shows how to do dangerous chemicals, but he states multiple times not to do it, he states he is a trained professional and shows all the care he takes. But other people can imitate him. So, should we ban creators like him because they are showing dangerous stuff? (And I'm talking creators that do the things right, telling you not to do it, showing tre precautions and all of that. The ones that do the things with an unsafe manner should totally be banned).
Because if they do, then why are car races like rally still shown on TV? Yes, they are pros, but they are showing how to do unsafe things, and encourage some people to try it without experience. Same thing with people that race down a hill in a bike, they are showing dangerous things and encouraging people to do it (a friend did this without knowing and died, falling the whole mountain down).
Where is the limit? Why we consider car races for example emission worthy and consider people who try to replicate stupid, but we consider true educational channels as a hazard? Where is the limit?
I've asked myself this question a lot of times, and everybody has a different answer.
@@ivanf.8489 This is a great question and well stated. I would be very interested to hear the answers as well
@@ivanf.8489 NileRed does stupid stuff, sure, but it's really difficult to get your hands on the materials he uses, and he doesn't portray it as 'art'. Fractal wood burning is something that anyone can set up at home pretty easily, and people have been encouraged to show off their 'cool' outcomes. Also, this video would never have been made without How to Cook That's video - NileRed never downplays how dangerous what he does is. Many fractal wood burners didn't even know how dangerous it is!
Thank you! I got my setup going as well! And don't let negative comments detour you! THIS is YOUR channel and your how-to PERIOD! I wouldn't have explained myself to a SINGLE person, nope!
In hindsight I shouldn't have. I'll learn for part 3😜 and thank you!!
Bro the way you handled this is amazing 👏 you could have went the other route but this was a great video and a great setup. I use a similar one with a footswitch and no secondary on/off However after seeing this im definitely adding it to mine. Amazing hobby but should be left for those who treat it responsibly. Applaud you brother well done 👏
Much appreciated man, stay safe!
"probably don't try this at home"
Jesus...
Yes?
Lol, spend half the video saying dont do this and still the karens persist!🤣
Super unnecessary video
Narrator: "The rare wild male Karen approaches the comment section. He looks around. "This seems like a good enough spot," he thinks as he squats down, leaving behind the best contribution he has to offer."
education bad
This is something I would like to learn. There is a beauty to it. I desire to learn this skill and incorporate it into what I do in my wood working.
Made out of these for my uncle back in 2017/18. He started his art like this, and now he’s been able to create 3D looking paintings by adding the burns and crevices. Only one in the area, tbh, only person I’ve seen doing it. He’s done quite well for himself by creating and selling the art.
I wanted to do it again because I moved away and was wondering if there was a better way with a more powerful transformer.
Haters are going hate. Lots of people out there that bring themselves up by bringing others down. Focus on doing you, don't let others distract you from your talents or passions. Although your follow up video was informative and entertaining, it was unnecessary. Don't get bullied into defending yourself by people online that wouldn't have the courage to confront you to your face.
No one was trying to bring anyone down. Just trying to raise awareness of the dangers, because some people honestly didnt know you can die from this. this creator said specifically not to try this at home and how it was dangerous, the other videos apparently did not.
This video is about educating over censoring ⚠️ Remember, do not try this at home. This is a purely educational video. It is dangerous if done incorrectly and accidents can happen. People have died doing this incorrectly and without taking proper safety precautions. Always keep a safe distance from any open electrical current. Stay safe and thanks for watching!
Thank you for educating people
I'm disgusted to dude I feel your pain!!!!!
Thank you!! I really appreciate your video. Censorship is dangerous, people need to be responsible for themselves. We can't protect people who don't want to think for themselves. Warnings proper and save precocious Yes removing every information about a hobby will increase dangerous behaviour in the future. Like we couldn't stop grown adults from eating tide pods 🙄
@@michaw.2168 “The Tide Pod Challenge”!! Lol! That reminded me of the Cue Ball Challenge, where a potential entrant to an exclusive private club was challenged to put a snooker cue ball in his mouth as part of the entrance ritual. The guy puts it in his mouth…but can’t get it back out! He ends up in the hospital, gets the cue ball removed, and thinks that’s him “in” the club. He heads back to the club but is denied entry! He’s furious that they’ve denied him entry and tells them “but I completed the challenge!”….only to be told that all he had to do was refuse such an idiotic challenge and he’d have been an automatic member!!
The fact that he did it, ruled him out as being to stupid to join!
@@terrypussypower love that! 🤣
You said it's grounded. I see the ground wire but not what you hooked it up to. Where did you ground it? And is the all wooden table also a safety precaution.
This was a great tutorial. I gathered all my equipment and had an electrician wire up everything IAW Australian wiring standards.I used a 12,000v neon sign transformer. Noting that the foot control is approximately 2 metres away from the work piece makes it pretty safe. I made my first wood burning cutting board last weekend and I used purple resin for the lighnting bolts. Turned out great, and I am more than happy to use this high voltage burner because of the safety elements you have put in place. Well done. Too bad I cannot upload a picture of my creation, this is definitely a different woodworking hobby, I love it. Thank you for showing us novices how to do things safely.
Reported Harmful dangerous act
See folks, exactly what I'm talking about. Leaving this up since people seem to not belive that people are actually doing this on a safety video. Thanks Dai for showing the definition of witch hunt
@@TheFishinDad I’m being Honest with you and not hiding the fact that this kind of Videos need reporting to CZcams… It saves lives… Many of you should do the same report it to CZcams all of you that think it’s Dangerous
@@daidavies6210 this is really dumb but you do you friend. Also you really shouldn't have deleted the comment where you call me an a**hole. It really spoke to your judgement and character😊
I want to start woddburning with a pen, I’ve done welding for work and assumed it should be the same technique with a pen as mig welding and learn how to adjust heat. After i learn that, this is my next goal because it will make lightning or tree branches in my work :). So thank you for showing me because I’m stubborn so rather theres videos to learn or not I’m gonna try it so i’ m glad you made this so now i know how to do it safelly. So all the haters can hate all they want!! But I’m happy you made it so i have less research to do
Thank you but please don't take this video as enough research. This is a topic you need to understand inside and out before attempting. Stay safe!🙏
Great video mate, you are spot on, it’s an awesome technique, thanks for showing how to do it safely and explaining how dangerous it can be if done incorrectly. Lot of haters that think only their opinion matters. Keep up the great content 👍
Where did you find your fracturing setup I cannot find 1 that has an on off switch and the foot switch.... Ty
Awsome tutorial on SAFTY 😊 It all boins down to common sense I do fractal burning with a small 12 vdc car neon transformer and still get awesome results ❤
Brilliant video thank you so much also what people need to know is the insulation rating of the wire- specifically on the secondary side of the neon Transformer the high voltage side, in other words- is it rated for 600 volts or is it rated for 10,20 30,000 volts? The correct type of insulated wire is also key to not getting electrocuted in your setup.
Right on people have no idea that 2-3000 volts will come right through that 600 volt insulation in the right conditions.
This is so cool!! Is there a way to manipulate the way the current makes its way through the wood for different designs?
You can kind of manipulate it with where you put your baking soda/water solution but you dont want to be putting that on while it's running. Ive seen videos where people are and that just seems like a stupid risk to take. Too many variables. I'd like to try laying some thin wire on the board to see if it follows that path but my guess with that is that it will seek out the wire but probably cause more of a shaped burn than a fractal pattern as the wire heats up and doesn't arc
Regardless of how you do it "safe " or not someone like me will do it with or without ur video so watching your "dangerous " example helps me see whats going to happen it isn't what makes me want to do it it's what makes me know what to expect so that I don't react and accide try shock myself so the witch hunt is actually doing a misservice to people like me
Well done. That set-up is very professional and much safer than wirin’ up the ol’ mikrowave. I may actually try it some day. I think neon lamp transformers may be better due to their high voltage and low amperage. I will definitely do more research before trying this out.
Hi nice video one question do you use to liquid sultion on burning thanks
1tbsp baking soda to one cup water
Just an extra redundancy but have you thought of adding a light that comes on when its powered?
I’m a welder by trade and I’ve always thought woodwork with this finish is cool, thank you for the video. Hi Karen!
Awesome results as always.
Great video. Thank you. I love it. Iam an engineer and wood worker. I plan to set one up. Great way to decorate many wood products.
Do you apply a thin coat of any solution on the wood surface.
Thank you. I found 1 tbsp baking soda to 1 cup water works best for me with this set up