Slow Pitch Jigging Reel Review | Accurate BV 500n vs. Shimano Ocea Jigger 2000HG
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- Slow Pitch Jigging Reel Review
We decided to make this video for our customers who are have trouble selecting a slow pitch jigging reel. This review goes over the top two jigging reels available to the states at this moment. After a review of the facts and a lot of time on the water fishing the Accurate Valiant 500n and the Shimano Ocea Jigger we thought a side by side comparison of the two will help you pull the trigger on one or the other. Thanks
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Bro how does these guys have 1000 subs these guys produce great content all the time we need to do better than this there is no other channel who devotes thier videos to jigging👍👍
NC thanks man...😁😁
I've been saying same thing. Great content and all the guys Johnny, Chris, Will and Pete are genuinely good peeps! Fun to fish with too! 2k subs coming soon. Let's go people hit that sub button.
Subscribing a year later. Thanks for pointing this out NC. Happy to see they're up to 7k but still way too low.
Real talk!
@@paidslave1217 grtgtg
simplified, if you are looking for smoothness, take OJ. If you are looking for more power reel, take Accu BV or maybe Accu Tern, first twin drag at star drag reel from accurate.
I personally own both Ocea Jiggers (1500NRHG, 2000NRHG, 2000 F-Type Custom) and Valiants (BV-300, BV-500N, and BV2-500N). I also own several Accurate Terns which are great if you like a Star Drag but don't want auto engage. I know it sounds like a sales pitch at the end, but I think Will is right - you really have to fish both in multiple conditions and your favorite will emerge. It is not hard to sell a well-maintained used model for either of these reels. As for me...I'm keeping all of them. I love them both and it can help with fatigue to switch it up throughout the day.
100% agree...No reason to choose sides get them both...
Another great video, guys! For myself, I like the visual verification I get from a lever drag. My budget conscious reels are out of the Avet G2 series but would love to step up to the new Accurate SPJ's. Again thanks for the fantastic new video. You guys are always informative and entertaining! Make it a great day!!!
Thanks Jon
I’m just a beginner at SPJ, Shimano Trevala ‘S’ rod 50-120 gram, and an Avet SX Raptor 2-speed loaded with 30 lb PowerPro. I fish up to 250’ West Coast Fla./Middlegrounds. I use an Accurate BV-2 600 std. for grouper and snapper, fishing bait. Both GREAT reels. My OPINION Shimano’s are overpriced, more bang for your buck with Avet and Accurate, and American made and serviceable here. Looking to add a 100 to 200 gram setup, leaning Accurate BV-500N.
How about a Avet SX-J Raptor and MX-J Raptor review?
Subscribed and loving your videos! Great stuff, highly informative!
Another great video for us newbies trying to figure all this out.
Just found you guys yesterday researching SPJ. Great video. Even better is seeing the C-DAWG, what a small world. That used to be our boat!
No way that is so funny. C-Dawg was Chris Doyle's nick name when he was a kid so we kept it🤣🤣 total coincidence
I loved that boat. We have since sold it for a bigger boat, but c-dawg is still in the fam...our friends that bought it are taking good care.
@@JohnnyJigsTV crazy! It was a good boat to us. Glad to see you guys re-powered it. I’ll have to pass by your shop time
Awesome... please do..
Great video guys!! Love the unbiased review of both of these great reels!
I’m new to the entire concept of jigging and taking the fellas advice I bought the Ocea!!!
I ordered my accurate BV 500 N. Johnny Jigs limited edition and have killed big rockfish so far can't wait to hook a yellowtail and Bluefin.
I like the Shimano ocean jigger. Im buying one now. thanks for the review sirs!
Welcome!!
im new to slow pitch jigging. ive learned alot from your videos and i appreciate the knowledge
Thank you...DC Irish1
I just got the BV2 500N reel love it.
Awesome man!...👊 🤙
Seigler SG all day for me! 12.2 OZ light as a feather and lighter on the bank account than Shimano and Accurate. Plus a lifetime warranty!
I have heard alot about these Seiglers lately. The one I had in my hands looked nice, but I have yet to try it.
@@JohnnyJigsTV there's pluses and minuses to every reel, but over all Seigler is putting out a top notch slow pitch reel with the SG and SGN series. Obviously thought this reel wasn't specifically made for slow pitch jigging but definitely can get the job done. I love my SG wouldn't trade it for anything! Keep up the good work! I ordered some of your jigs a few weeks ago, fast delivery and excellent quality!!! Thank you!
@@redfishnick1302 getting my first spj set up and was looking into to these. Can you buy different handle for it? SG or SGN? What line did you spool in yours?
@@ShinkiZer0 I'm not sure if you can get an after market handle for the for the SG/SGN. I put 50lb Nomad design pandora line on mine. I've also got two other reels one with 30lb and one with 40lb.
Love my Ocean Jigger, I have found that when casting if you don't want it to engage you wind it uo to the point where its about to engage and it sort of locks itself there enough to cast. i haven't had an issue since i have done this. Good solid review. Thanks
which point is that? or how do you determine the point? just asking as i just bought one! cheers
Great video for someone getting into the sport. Thanks for the great detail.
Welcome..😊
Im using Shimano 16HG spooled with 600m PE2.0 and drop at 150 to 350m of depth, planning to get the Ocea Jigger 3000hg for backup.
Cool comparison video. The new Accurate SPJ reel looks interesting. Btw, the word you’re looking for at 10:26 is reel “clamp”, not ‘saddle’. 😆
😂😂😂Yeah I blanked out😂😂Thanks...🤙🤙
Over time the accurate gets smoother.
I got both of them, and it works great. I loaded 30lb braid for my ocea jigger and 40lb braid for my accurate reel🥰
Smart man...They are both excellent choices.
Which do you prefer
I prefer a lever drag. They are both great reels and it truly is a matter of preference.
Why use your weaker left hand for jigging? I am right handed but use the 2001 lefty, cos I want to hold the rod in my strongest arm, for our version of your Amberjacks, the Yellowtail Kingfish. Never get using a rod/reel the other way around, only when harnessed into a game reel where you don't hold the rod and want your more powerful arm for handle cranking, but jigging with my left arm. No thanks. Thanks for the vid mate.
Good video but my take is Okuma makaira 8 2 speed just slow pitched a lb 200 Goliath the low gear not super high drag was the the difference and the triboun inspired handle the most comfortable in my opinion slap to a goo Fish Blue a tank rod and a tank real Gulf of Mexico baby
I have the Accurate SPJ 500N- 2 speed. Wow - nice real. I agree that I like the lever drag. Nice 2 year warranty - hope I never have to use the warranty. Well made reel. -- Thanks
Great video thanks for the info 👍🏼
On the 1500 does the clutch also engage after have the turn?
Also is that reel about the size of a trinidad 14 or 16? Looking to get one.
if your lucky the line snaps or you're yelling incoming. as a first time user and jigger. When that handle whirls around and engages, it pulled the rod completely out of my hands!
I did grab the rod because it rattled around before going overboard. I'm seriously working on a convient way to tether to the rail? so any body figured out a way to tether I'd love to hear it.
PS it was an ocea 2000 custom F I nearly lobbed overboard
Love my valiant 500n 2 speed with slow pitch knob and extra long blank that is stock for the 600 valiant model
That gray Ocea Jigger 2000 HG on a custom Poseidon rod is magic, always wondered how those little Asian guys repeatedly winched up such big fish from the depths. I do less deep jigging so spooled it with 50# Jigman Ultra for putting pressure on grouper and such. The slow fall lever is nice to give your thumb a little break and you learn to stop the handle from engaging on that first cast.
Yeah man..Definitely top of the line Reel.. Thanks Dan
@@JohnnyJigsTV Subscribed, thank you for all the great info. Your jigging rods with the Alps reel seat are awesome, I'm nibbling.
Another option to consider (albeit not the most common option) is that Shimano (in the US) Ocea Jigger comes in right hand only where as all Accurate reels are offered in right and left hand. I love Shimano, but choose Accurate because of this important option for left hand retrieve.
Hi Alex the Ocea Jigger 2001 and 1501 are left handed
You didn’t look very hard Alex
Hey Johnny, you should do a video on how to choose an acid wrap rods.
Chris and I were just talking about breaking down slow pitch rods today...I see it coming in the near future....🤙🤙🤙Johnny
Sweet, please include different price range, pros and cons
I'm a lefty and have a few righty acid wraps (where the guides spiral to the left). The line will lay a bit more to the left with that setup, more noticeable on a wider spool reel so I just have to thumb the line to my right instead of back and forth.
@@DanTheFireman Dan does "lefty" mean you crank your reel with your left hand ?
@@dushyantdebideen Yes, crank with the left. I fish fresh water in South Florida and also the Amazon a few times a year so don't have to switch hands thousands of times to reel when casting with the right. What I have been told is a right handed acid wrap spirals to the left and a left handed acid wrap spirals to the right.
This reel is really smooth
"I don't like that. I want one that's rough "
WHAT? HOW?
LOL
Great video! Please go easy on that background music though. It was a bit much.
OJ is too limited only to jigging application while the VALIANT is a multi purpose reel where you can jig with it & also cast with it for bait & surface iron application. Plus the Stainless gears on Valiant versus the Brass gears on OJ is like day & night for longetivity.
I agree, Will. Buy em both 😂
Yup might as well🤣🤣
I see your line selections for the reels,what’s the best line to use for slow pitch reels?or your favorite to use
Scotty you should call the shop..954-889-4915
Just picked up an Accurate 500n spj. I still think I made the right choice overall for my preferences, but I can't help a little doubt seeping in over it compared with the OJ 200HD. Any thoughts?
They are both amazing reels. It's truly a matter of preference. Lever drag or star drag, OJ smoothness or Valiant power....Etc.
@@JohnnyJigsTV Yea that is what I figured. Thank you.
I wanna buy your ocean jigger 1500 hg reel to go with your temple reef gravitate power 1 rod.is that a good combo?
That would be an excellent combo. The 1500 is similar in size to the Valiant 300
Great video! Do you have any info on the shimano game type J new slow pitch rods coming out?
Thank you Michael. No info on the new type J at this time.
What about price difference?
Hey, I'm finally going to give SPJ a go! I ordered a Shimano Ocea Jigger F custom 2001NRHG for $380. I'm thinking of pairing it with a Seafloor Control JAM 3 Force. Thoughts? I mainly fish with Hubbards Marina so I'll be out in the Gulf of Mexico jigging.
I loved the Shimano Ocea jigger f custom 2001NRHG, but my wife upgraded to the Studio Ocean Mark Blue Heaven Reel Left-Handle
OGM BHL50VⅡ Hi S2T-BG.
Great video! Background music is somewhat distracting.
Thanks Dave.....We turned the music way down and cut it out all together on our newer videos.
Alot people choice accurate. i like accurate, but i go daiwa/shimano
I really really like the new Daiwa 35 slow pitch reel..
@@JohnnyJigsTV : 40 lb max drag, super smooth
much $$$, play accurate valiant. super lightweight and cast good, good drag, good jig.
How would guys feel about using a Shimano Talica 8 or Torium 12 for SPJ? They both have 6:2:1 38 inch retrieval. The main difference than a normal SPJ reel is the spool width. Any thoughts?
BigGatorJack, The Talica and Torium are great reels, but its better to have the narrow spool of the Accurate Valient or Ocea jigger for level winding purposes. We always cup the reel while holding the rod allowing us to level and maintain balance and control at the same time. 36" per crank is my cut off point for a Spj reel. I prefer a high gear reel that will produce the most line retrieval as possible. My Valient being at 45" per crank. If you already own the Talica and Torium 100% go for it. If you are in the market to buy I would suggest getting the right tool for the job.
@@JohnnyJigsTV I really appreciate the info. I will wait, and stop by your shop to get properly setup.
I'm looking to get my first SPG setup, what would you recommend?
Hey Blocbully, It really depends on where you are fishing and what depths. I would highly recommend calling the shop. Our staff is super helpful and knowledgeable of SPJ. 954-889-4915.....Johnny
Hello Johnny,. New to slow pitch jigging.. I just purchased the 500N Accurate. Would you recommend 50LB Brain and 40lb mono ? I fish in South Fla. ( palm beach) looking for wahoo, tuna and mutton… What you recommend to spool?
Hey Donald, I would recommend 30# braid and 10-12' of 50# fluoro top shot to start.
is 2 speed ideal to get? ill be targeting fish under 30 pounds.. looking to get accurate 300
I prefer single speed less moving parts to break and is a lighter reel...Johnny
Cool brother 🤙
Good one 👍🏾
Hey bro
I’m getting into my 1st overhead reel
1. I’m normally a right hand caster and reel with my left in all my spinning reel. Do I get the same in overhead or opposite
2. Is the 1500 j custom with 30-40lb braid in about 60m water good enough
Hey Trapstar, It is really up to you and what you are comfortable with. The 1500 would be perfect.
is 2 speed needed for vertical jigging?
Hi Brandon, We rarely use 2 speed reels.
Good video jony than you 👍
Thank you🤙
Accurate just came out with a jigging real
I know...I'm waiting for mine to come in....Can't wait🤙🤙
@@JohnnyJigsTV sorry I just got to the part where you mentioned it
Personally I wouldn't waste a dime on any Shimano products for saltwater fishing. I Fish left-handed and Shimano does not offer a lot of options for lefties. However accurate does. I purchased most of the Valiant series from accurate I think I'm just missing the 800
You are misinformed then, both Ocea Jigger 2000 & 1500 have their left hand version models 2001 & 1501 respectively.
If you are right-handed, does it make sense to go with the left-hand retrieve so you can cup the reel with the dominant hand?
Hey Mark, That is a topic that has been brought up often around the shop. I am right handed and prefer a right hand retrieve. My opinion on it is this.... Most kids start out batting in little league only one way pending on which hand is dominant. If they are good and make it into the higher up leagues they learn how to bat either way pending on the pitcher. If you are new to slow pitch and start out with a left hand retrieve then that is what you will become comfortable with and prefer in the end. Also keep in mind pitching the jig is a joint effort from each hand and while reeling in a fish most of your energy goes into the hand reeling.
Johnny, Thanks for the detailed reply. I have only SPJ'd once and it was with right-hand retrieve. I am right handed, but I had trouble keeping the rod but aligned on my forearm. I thought that going with left-hand retrieve might be easier since its similar to spin tackle in terms of keeping the rod but aligned on the forearm. Anyway, your analogy makes sense.
Great videos, particularly the one over here out of Mad Beach....What a trip.....WOW.
How much is the ocean sugar 2000 thank you
Hey Johnny, would you recommend the bv500n or the bv2 500n for red fish, salmon, amber jack, cro cro
Hey Dushyyant, I fished the two speed for awhile and I may have used it once. I would recommend going with the single speed for a couple reasons. One it is les moving parts that can break. Two its lighter. Here is a link for the BV 500n if you are interested. Thanks for checking out our channel. ..Johnny
johnnyjigs.com/collections/rods-reels/products/accurate-boss-valiant-500n
@@JohnnyJigsTV you should be a seller on Amazon. I know a lot of people from outside the US love your stuff.
Hey Johnny. What's the fastest delivery and cost to 10335 TURRETT POINT LN 77064-5169 Texas??? Item in my cart BV500N
Rod flew out off my hands when the clutch accidentally engaged when I cast the jig. :(
That is the down side to the auto engage....Did you loose your set up?
@@JohnnyJigsTV Yes I did 😔 just after landing a couple of 6lb Togs.
What about your view points on daiwa saltiga series of conventional reels?
Perry, I think they are great. Very smooth well put together. Good price...
@@JohnnyJigsTV y’all ever fishing with seigler reels... because I have and man they pretty badass lever drag conventional reels made in the USA, great engineering n last but not least “lifetime warranty”
Perry we actually have a couple at the shop. They seem comparable to accurate in alot of ways.
@@JohnnyJigsTV do some research those seiglers are hit or miss. Look at Accurates background in aerospace machine work. Seigler builds the illusion of quality. Seen their reels have catastrophic failures first hand. Personally I'll take Accurate over all the reels in their price range.
New to SPJ. Wondering about how the Avet JX 6.0 G2 series compares to the Shimano Ocea?
Hey Kevin my team and I are fans of Avet reels, but I have to tell you the Ocea Jigger is like a Ferrari. I have not seen a reel as smooth as the Ocea Jigger. There is alot of great SPJ reels available these days. Give us a ring at the shop ask for Johnny I can walk you through the pros and cons of each reel.
Great video but lose that background music lol
Thanks Peter...This is one of our older videos. We have since eliminated most of the music.
Which reel has higest retrieve inches per crank??
The Ocea Jigger is 46" and the BV 500 is 45"
Thanks for the reply, Bro I have a problem here, I am fishing about 200m deep at night for Roudi escolar, and sharks are eating all the catches, they dont fight much, just need to reel them as fast as I can, currently im using Shimano saragossa 25k, which has retrieve per crank arround 45". Do you know which reel in the world has highest retrieve per crank? .. would love to see a vedio about such reel ...
The Daiwa 35 spj is the highest slow pitch real @ 47". That may be your best bet.
@@JohnnyJigsTV daiwa vs accurate, which do you choose?
Accurate made in USA. What more do you need to know?
What reel do you recommend for fast action vertical jigging?
Spinning reel.
Can't see the black accurate against your black shirt
The music along with your commentary is really irritating and distractive.
😂😂😂😂Thanks...I'll keep that in mind😂
Ok guys, have you ever used a Gomexus LX50? , 43" retrieve, 7.1:1, 11oz, 60lb drag and decent capacity even in the narrow reel. For $150ish...
I have never used it but have heard reports. For the price its great but you are going to get what you paid for. The amount of time I spend on the water it is super important for me to have reliable gear. My suggestion would be to spend the extra 🤑 and get a reel that has been tested to the extreme and will last. Just Fyi we are NOT sponsored by any reel manufacturer....Johnny
@@JohnnyJigsTV Agree, And that's usually my mentality on whatever I buy. But knowing they frequently use the LX50 in Japan for slow pitch has to say something? Combine that with the cost, you can (3) LX-50's for the same price and have money left over. I think they're worth a long term reel review from guys like yourself that spend countless hours on the water. At least... I'd find it interesting.
Great video guys! Both are awesome reels they each have their own benefits. I am with Doyle on this one 😝#TEAMJIG
Team Jig🤙🤙🤙
@@RH-qk5lt can you point to information regarding LX-50 use in Japan. Chinese labels are good at spreading false information for their product advertising, I have also seen fake IDs created for manipulation of reviews including on stripersonline. Chinese brands also track online commentary on their products and try to suppress negative feedback. I would like to see Japanese use of LX-50, can you give pointers? I am not bashing Chinese products, some of them are excellent and rest are catching up super fast but have had negative experiences w.r.t some of their brands.
Hello. What brand of rod are u using?
Hey Vouthy, Rick and I are using a JohnnyJigs Pro Jigger power 2 and 3. You can find them on our website Johnnyjigs.com
@@JohnnyJigsTV thank u am going look into it.
I have a full review in one of our recent videos...
Buy American!
Yeah man...Tell that to Chris...lol
Avet hx are more versatile. Don’t waste your money!
Just saw the accurate BV2 500N-SPJ on instagram, looks nice!
Yup...I will have 2 of them soon
@@JohnnyJigsTV I looked on the website for a price but didn't see one.
We dont have it yet😫 Soon its around 530.00
@@JohnnyJigsTV worth every penny. And if you have an issue Accurate customer service is world class!
Saltiga.
The 35jh wasn't out when we made this video. I do love my Saltiga 🤙