How Goldlewis managed to win the biggest Fighting Game Tournament in years! - Guilty Gear Strive
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- čas přidán 16. 11. 2021
- So the Red Bull Kumite @ Las Vegas happened not too long ago, and wouldn't you know it for the Guilty Gear Strive portion of the tournament Goldlewis, unpopular and low tier, managed to win during the Grand Finals of the tournament! So in this video lets break down how goldlewis managed to win the grand finals at the kumite!
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Goldlewis won the grand finals at the Red Bull Kumite! Yes, technically he didn't go all the way for sure, but he was there at the grand finals and for the purposes of our video being a match breakdown and all, that's what matters! So enjoy this breakdown where I go over a lot of the hows/whys of what happened, and some thoughts on everything in general. I was physically there at the Kumite and it was a blast! Thanks so much for Red Bull for flying me out there it was a grand time!
Glad to see the Big Guy is finally getting some love, many people doubted his viability including myself but now it's undeniable he has potential.
He's definitely a tricky character but he's proven to have a unique arsenal.
The recent patches seem to have helped him a good lot, hopefully he gets a few more small quality things so more people will start picking him up.
I'm glad to see the low tier characters getting buffs to become viable and getting a chance to shine.
Him and Faust are doing pretty good now which is great.
I had loved Gobou from afar via vods on CZcams of his matches, but seeing him at Kumite was amazing! Big ups to you big Roof for this brilliant breakdown! I know this kind of video takes a lot of time and effort, so expect a little "financial appreciation" on behalf of the Fat Monkey Mafia next time I can catch one of your streams live. Maybe we'll get other videos like this one in the future?? 👀🤔
He is the best character in the whole game. (Joking)
1) Gobou went into this tournament planning to play Goldlewis against Daru as in his experience the matchup is more even than it is with Zato
2) Diaphone practiced for fighting Zato more than any other character in the leadup to this tournament
3) When asked if he was gonna get some matches in with Kid Viper to practice the Goldlewis matchup, he dismissed it as unnecessary because obviously Gobou was gonna play Zato
Oh this is brutal lol
"There's no way he's gonna pick Goldlewis. Not in Grand Fina--"
One wrong guess costs you a whole match, as if GGST isn’t anime enough
The 3) is such a different mindset compared to Daigo in CPT. Daigo still practice the Balrog (claw) matchup even though people thought Kawano wasn't gonna pick him anyway. Well, it turned out perfectly for Daigo in that case.
@@Yukari_MAiG well daigo learned the hard way before cpt. He made the experience count.
Every Goldlewis player hoping this doesn’t make Arcsys throw him into the Gigas hole of ‘bad character that only gets nerfs’
THey already hosed his midscreen pressure thanks to Potemkin
anyone else think it's weird that the "secretary of absolute defence" has 0 defensive options?
The best defense is a good offense
That's why its *absolute* defense
not since he's American, their defense usually involves drone strikes
@@thefrostbite In the UAE, it's crossfire collateral damage offense :3
everyone forgets that the department of defense used to be called the department of war
"Check out Ino's health in this whole sequence" Proceeds to put a video over her health.
wait did I, i did editing in stages so didn't even think of it :-0
Her Health Bar definitely hung an out to lunch sign on the office window.
Watching this live hit *different*
Aye, it was a great feeling. The second I saw him pick goldlewis I ran out of the red bull media area to go watch it in the seats lol
Goldlewis came out at the end in dramatic Shonen anime fashion, a perfect ending for the biggest offline Strive tournament yet
In this Behemoth Typhoon, Goldlewis will make his opponent's healthbar DISAPPEAR. And I thought Gobou's Zato was scary enough the way he killed opponents in seconds.
The man is insane. Like his Goldlewis was awesome to watch, obviously, but that man’s Zato is the scariest thing I’ve seen in this game
Gobou's Zato inspired me to pick him up.
The fact that Gobou found a way to convert the back end of Typhoon into stupid damage many times, use it as a cross up, and turn Goldlewis into a walking pendulum, is a testament to the level of skill these guys have. Good lord.
This shows how important matchup knowledge is
Always the most important thing at high level. Its how i've scammed so many wins with T.Hawk over the course of SF4. He may be kinda crap, but if you don't know the dirtiest tricks ill walk all over you
Me: Goldlewis won the tournament, that means he's the best character
You: But-
Me: I DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT~
It's not a big deal-
We all know at the end of the day... "it's not a Big deal"🎶🎶
Big times coming up for a lot of stuff! Later this week is the King of Fighters 15 Open Beta test, we probably are getting more Happy Chaos footage on the 19th and he's launching not too long from now. Luke big reveal for SF5 is happening on the 23rd, and some point between now and the end of the months is the official debut of the League of Legends fighting game! What a great time to be in the FGC!
FGC FOR THE WINN!!!
I hope they don't nerf anyone tho, especially Goldlewis. Its more fun when the patch notes drop and everyone can do more stuff.
Being able to do more stuff is great, but do you really think characters like Nago, Sol, Ram, and May don't at least need some damage adjustments? They can do way more damage off of easier conversions than most of the rest of the cast, and I just don't find it fun to play a game where one mistake costs me an entire round just because my opponent's character can delete me in one combo.
@nick I think the damage is fun, especially since only some characters can really blow you up in one touch. Really adds a lot to how the characters feel imo
As long as they buff weaker characters more than stronger ones until they’re on equal footing. Then they can start buffing everyone again
Maybe some small things on characters like to bring them a lil more in line but I agree with your Sentiment, let's buff all the cast who could use a lil help and have everyone have their own special crazy stuff by the end of the game.
I'm always mixed on how I feel on this topic of buffing everything instead of doing any amount of nerfs or almost none. Part of me thinks it'd long term turn a game into a mindless who-can-pull-off-their-bullshit-first game where it's more about gimmicks than skill.
Then the other half of me brings up the fact that besides For Honor which generally did the same thing, I've never really played a game that buffs everything so I wouldn't really know.
Strive is a game I'm loving so far, maybe will stick around, see what they do and if I like how they're doing it.
Easy, he only played one set the whole tournament 🤣 the most important set. So hype
Goldlewis is only concerned with the main event, he's a superstar after all
Yhe counter pick champion.
I heard it's an uncommon stratagy for international players to pick under used characters against mostly american players when they are sure that the player in question don't have the matchup knowledge because either they deemed them not tournament viable or they refuse to touch them because they are low tier.
Just like in a Street Fighter 4 tournament when Infiltration knowledge check PR Balrog with a Hakan counterpick, Gobou checks Diaphone at the start and it paid off quite well as Diaphone is basically forced to try to adapt to Goldlewis as a character (something you can't be doing in a high level tournament). I respect Gobou's reason with picking with Goldlewis for the Grand Finals, but I feel like that was just a part of his scheme.
I'm just happy to see low-tier underdogs shine in a tournament!
@@jinkazama7587 facts
It's a tried and true strategy, I don't think there's anything uncommon about it. In tournaments that allows it it's pretty common for players to pick different characters, mostly to cover terrible matchups--e.g. during the grand final of Rage GBVS 2020 summer Gamera switched to Kat as she's better against Ferry.
Ofc since you'd be spending most of your time practicing your main character, the off character should be either very niche, or being insanely good at the matchups you want to cover. Against smaller FG communities (i.e. everywhere except Japan) the niche plan is extra effective since it'd be hard to prepare even if you know it's coming. Just finding a Goldlewis player as good as Gobou is pretty challenging by itself.
@@ArmoredNeko That's literally all it is. Matchup psychology. I can't tell you how many times I've been mixed online by high level playing low tier characters. You *have* to know your matchups if you're going to be a tournament player.
*Chuckles in behemoth typhoon
Also Roofle I’m a new sub and really appreciate all this work you put into your videos! Keep up the awesome work!
thank you for the kind words friend
Dude this whole tournament was insane, but Apologyman’s Faust and Gobou’s, well, everything, were unbelievably good (and also entertaining, lol)
Goldlewis won because Zato carved his way 😭 I was looking forward to my man winning it all!
Zato set up the throne and the pillow for Goldlewis to rest upon. Goldlewis isn't here to do the heavy lifting he's here to be the star attraction
@@rooflemonger totes mcgotes 😆 don't get me wrong though, I am happy for America's Best Grandpa and love that he's getting some time in the limelight
Classic case of why matchup knowledge is so important, especially at the highest level of stages. Earlier we had Daigo prepare against the surprise Claw pick and win CPT Asia, now we're seeing Diaphone fall apart to Goldlewis at Redbull Kumite because he wasn't ready
TL;DR _"Anyways, I started swinging!"_
So this is what the lyrics "We can handle it" meant in his song
Gobou learned the match up after he loss to Daru in the Japanese tournament
Thanks for the play by play, its really easy to miss the subtle but important choices like oki setups in the middle of the chaos
I'm sure that if Gobou went Zato Diaphone would've won. Also I can only imagine the smile on your face when Gobou went Goldlewis lol
I love seeing everyone shocked at how strong Goldlewis is at the hands of someone as good as Gobou. As a Goldlewis believer I was smiling the whole time with Gobou.
Marvelous breakdown. I was very invested start to finish even though I never really look at tournament bouts on purpose... And my goodness, that man's face really is an experience.
if I looked past my monitor and saw gobou making those faces between rounds , I probably would of lost by pure fear.
What an absolute legend. Thanks for the great breakdown!
I appreciate the analysis for this particular match! I always enjoy thinking about the thought process behind each and every move, what was done, what worked, and what could've been done better. The match with Gobou as Goldlewis against Diaphone's I-no was phenomenal! ^^
even analyzing this battle was intense. good work on breaking it down on detail!
good lord, i love our secretary of absolute defense. i would love to learn other characters too but just swinging a behemoth typhoon... even the chip... and when it lands especially. it's just magic, ya know.
Keep up the phenomenal work Rooflemonger!
I keep trying to reply to this and the reply keeps going away for some reason so third times a charm
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Thanks!
Thanks for the big breakdown. Goldlewis is fascinating to watch and I'd love to play him someday (gotta train those Typhoons on HitBox, especially the ones that pass through 8) so getting a little education here and there is a welcome treat. Glad you had fun and glad your character was the champion!
Honestly, Goldlewis is like the anti-HitBox character haha
Good luck! (from a fellow hitboxer)
@@HasekuraIsuna thanks homie. I'm determined to get there! Good luck to you, too. We can do it!
What a great analysis rooflemonger. Amazing content as always
Such a great set! Love the analysis! Thanks! ✨
Great analysis, would love to see more of these.
Yeah its been a good while since i have done anything like this, but then again its been a good while since tournaments have been a thing lol. Maybe ill do more in the future
Love the break down, great vid
Synced up that pip well...😉
Great breakdown fella.
Great content.
Loving this informative commentary
You covered up the health right as you said to look at the chip damage
I did editing in stages and I didnt realize I did that!!!
Wait Goldlewis won a tournament? Better buff Sol. - Arcsystem probably
I was more hyped about this than the Happy Chaos reveal.
It's simultaneously funny and frustrating that some think this is proof Goldlewis is some secret top tier. Watching this, and the match itself, it seems far more likely match-up knowledge (or a lack there of) was the determining factor.
He's significantly better than people think, and if he still had his midscreen pressure with his aerial BT options he'd be a top 5 character.
But as a goldlewis main, yes he's super low tier please keep saying that so I can get some buffs.
Its how it always is. Character win a big match therefore in a lot of peoples minds they must be good. Its never the case but a lot of people can't process it.
Watch Arcsys nerf Goldlewis 😂
Literally happened to Vega in SFV Season 1. Bottom 3 character but dared to beat Tokido in a CPT event, so got nerfed into dust for Season 2 of SFV.
@@rooflemonger "HE BEAT TOKIDO?! NERF VEGA! BUSTED CHARACTER!" - Someone at Capcom maybe
I like breakdown videos of high-level play. Especially on characters I don't know at all.
Dang Roofle, I wanna see more of you doing these analysis videos.
Its been a long time since I have done one for sure. Perhaps its time to start doing them a bit more often
Man, Gobou's facial expressions just scream, "I've got you right where I want you." Props to Diaphone for having to handle a GL with not a lot of matchup analysis.
Totally unrelated, BUT: I just realized that it's 2 days till KOF15 beta and a mere 12 days till Happy Chaos... Sooo, yay?! ;D
I never played a guilty gear game ever but my god this was great to watch. Turns out at any game be it a moba or a hero shooter or this thing where character identity is a deciding factor, counterpicking is the best advantage you can get. Thanks for the breakdown, "definitely not carrying an alien in that coffin guy" is awesome.
I think a bg part of it, as Sonicsol said, was Diaphone not knowing the matchup very well at all. ran into Goldlewis' range constantly, rather than zoning and staying more passive. Once they got the corner and wall it was party time, but the rest of the match was a struggle, and resulted in Ino backdashing too much to try to take back the distance that they gave to Goldlewis.
I picked up the game again today after not picking it up for a few months. I really like Old Goldie, but it is rough playing him. Also the way he plays off American stereotypes is also really fun. I just need to practice buffering my half circles.
Gold Lewis's move set was made specifically for arcade stick.
this stream was so fuckin funny to watch from start to finish
That whole last round where it was just a barrage of BTs and each one Diaphone either has to lose a chunk of health or a chunk of tension. Just schnasty.
I mean back in AC+ and AC+R, Order Sol is the most popular secondhand character because he is direct counter to Millia (who is a common top tier in that game as well.)
I hope that Goldlewis keeps getting more attention. I haven't played this game but I love his character and his play style so much. When I finally get the game, you know who my main is!
We need more Goldlewis online, the game is filled with Nago's and Sol right now. So you are very welcome.
I love seeing the love my main is getting right now
Thats gonna be an excuse to not buff him...
Dear God I hope not, yes he's undeniably strong but still needs a bit of help against most of the cast
That is the cruel way of fighting games. Find any success with a bad character and they use it against him. Meanwhile top tiers will continue to get more.
Inb4 Nago, Leo and Sol get buffs while Faust, Goldlewis and I-No get nerfs.
Just kidding, after the patches I think the devs can see the characters for what they are rather than just results and balance accordingly. In the last patches some characters got inevitably hit by universal changes but I don't think anyone got undeservedly hit by character nerfs. Maybe Chipp, but at least he was top tier so he can take it.
when i saw goldlewis in the cutscene/animation adaptations; I knew he'd get far in a fighting aspect, but i never thought he'd go *THIS* far!
this was a complete shonen fight XD! Gobou turning more and more creepy during the fight, as if he fall into the dark side XD
Gobou's Goldlewis:
That's 70%, welcome to USA, son
Good old fighting game tournament tradition. The top tiers everyone trains against vs the low tier whose matchup knowledge you "sorta know". :3
ITS NOT A BIG DEAL 😤
Time to roll up my sleeves and learn those Behemoth Typhoons
684 BT does not catch backdash round start unless the opponent messes up the timing iirc. But diaphone air dashing back can be blown up pretty easily.
Pretty clear from how Gobou ran over Diaphone that Diaphone really didn't know the matchup almost at all. That's basically the main part of it, matchup knowledge is super important.
That surprise pick served Gobou well, also Gobou is definitely one of if not the best Goldlewis player out there too. Gobou also seemed like he was really comfortable with this matchup.
Matchup psychology won the day. Who among us doesn't get unexpectedly mixed by decent to high level low tier characters online because we don't know or aren't prepared for the matchup. Gobuo also did everything *right.* He planned this risky hail Mary and the madman pulled it off
Yes I was waiting for this, I just saw Jiyuna freak out about it lol
1:08 smile of a champion
That was very informative do more 👌
Seeing him just SMACK I-no into the wall break is soooooo satisfying lol
I just watched this for gobbo smiles
I think Diaphone's though process in the first rounds can be summed up as "oh god, oh fuck"
It is a shame that Diaphone clearly was prepared for Gobou's Zato but not Goldlewis. What a mind game
The first two games legit made me laugh out loud
My brother wasn’t joking when he said Goldlewis gaming is real
“I authorize deployment of GD51”
His mighty girth ain't half the worth to meeeeee, the alien
3:03 How do people do the forward up back version without jumping? Do you have to input it really fast or is there something else?
you can be really really fast, although that version was the round start, so you can hide the input before the round begins and then you don't jump
Gobou's face is priceless
I did not know you could counter Stroke the Big Tree with a throw. That will be very useful. How long is the window for that, though?
You can throw it at any point before the first active frame of attack
Big damage and massive moves, that’s how😂
Yoooo is that doug dimmadome!?
Diaphone was frantically checking his cell phone before starting the match.
Regardless if he was rechecking his notes against Zato, or desperately checking his notes for Goldlewis, he lost there and then!
>:3
For real though, how many competitors have travelled to Japanese/SK events and won in any fighting game....
When you compare it to how often players travel from those nations to Europe, the US and actually win the tournaments, the disparity is incredible.
Gobou literally counter America with America
04:50 See that demon face ( Olha a cara desse demônio!!!) 😂😂😂
he is possuído mano
Nerf Goldlewis, buff Ram
nope
Goldlewis: Hits like a truck
Ram: Hits like a truck
GD: Has mixup
Ram: Only has pressure
GD: High health
Ram: Low health
GD: Not mobile
Ram: Better than average mobility
GD: Won RBK
Ram: No
(I'm joking, relax!)
BUFF SOL
I think a lot of people don’t see how strong Goldlewis is even though his offensive potential has been greatly reduced.
What if you wanted to win on the big stage but someone decided to tear down the system instead?
thumb up 4 moarviviseccions of matches
This is a good example of Top Tier Players using and winning with Characters that nobody uses therefore, even the most experienced players are not used to playing characters they dont come across online or at locals. This doesn't mean Goldlewis is low key a higher tier, it just means there are still players that will exploit player data as a whole and can only get away with it until the player community gets used to Goldlewis.
This kinda of thing has been a thing for a decade in many fighting games.
I don't know nothing about the character but how is a big dude that seems like a he's carrying a tombstone brief case and still be able to air dash and had a run cancle move bur nogo is half vamp and still can't do either 🤔 please update will surely fix that
I don’t know roofle, all this repetition about goldlewis being low tier sure is sounding a lot like downlplaying 🤔
Lol
Its reality. Who actually thinks Goldlewis is a strong character?
@@rooflemonger you didn't see Gobou getting carried??? He chose a top tier because he was scared of Diaphone
You can see that Diaphone has zero match experience against goldlewis as Gobou made more than a couple decisions which are fully punishable and Diaphone just letting Gobou perform at optimal range without any special counters is just crazy.
Diaphone is good but if you have zero matchup experience versus the best GLD player in the world? Yeah, that'll do it.
In a normal matchup I think I-NO takes the win 6/4. But Diaphone wasn't really playing I-NO how she should be played in that match.
I talked to both and Gobou and Diaphone both believe Goldlewis wins the I-no match (and so do I honestly).
Also, take into consideration how mentally exhausted Diaphone mustve been. Apologyman gave him an extremely rought time, as did Daru. Gobou was great tho, but I also think that if Diaphone wasnt fighting as many people as he was the result couldve been different. It would still be very close regardless.
@@rooflemonger really? Ino wins close, and far easily.
Unless you are sitting in behemoth typhoons there really isn't much GLD does better than I-NO.
And his BT can be out prioritized by special or far slash.
Just odd.
How it felt the moment you saw gobou picking goldlewis?
Very happy. I was in the red bull media area and ran out to see the match in the cage proper when Goldlewis came out
Can you do a goldlewis survival guide please. I'm getting whooped by this man because he's mad plus I don't know when to challenge or how to escape the corner
check out the tips and tricks guide for goldlewis, a lot of surviving against a character is knowing their options. That said though against constant plus frames the only real survival is to make the read. If he keeps doing big swings you can jump out or just poke him out of it.
@@rooflemonger I'm a dedicated pot player, I lose to this guy every time. Labbed and all and still get destroyed.
I hope this result will change your mind on GD.
Not at all! Just because a bad character wins a tournament doesn't make them suddenly good, it doesn't work that way. If Gobou thought Goldlewis was strong he woulda played him for the whole tournament, instead of just as a counterpick against I-no
Well Golddick is considered low tier…boy is Still extremely Popular
What made this a big tournament? Was there a lot of contestants?
Invitational only. What made it a big tournament is the production value and red bull behind it. All the best players for all the big games were on site, with a multi million dollar production team behind it.