How Miley Cyrus Escaped Disney's Harsh Ownership (They Wanted Nothing to Do With Her)
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Miley Cyrus starred as Hannah Montana in the most popular Disney Channel show in history. Getting the role was her biggest dream and is the reason why we all know her today. However she did not own her name "Miley Cyrus." This made me question her "wild phase," in 2012 -2014 and if it was a business move or simply her trying to escape her past.
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The creepy music and low voice ain't it. Its almost unbearable
Disney: spends decades exploiting children
Conservatives: this is awesome, take our money
Disney: acknowledges minorities exist
Conservatives: omg, cancel them
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I can literally second that, I also died.
Miley trolled Disney and we should all respect her for it
Nah
@@StillTendo Yah
when she got asked if she swears 💀
Disney trolled her by not giving her good money
You can, I'm alright.
I would also like to highlight that Billy was always there for Miley and throughout the “phase” he never tried to take her down. He clearly understood what she was doing and when reporters were trying to get him to say he was disappointed or something, he merely said Miley was expressing herself and finding her musical identity. Exactly what she did
Same with Dolly, her godmother. She stated “We just have to trust her right now”. I think everybody in her circle knew what she was doing.
You’re right, this is huge. Compare that to other stars and you can tell what a difference that made.
Turns out it was the plot of another HM episode.
He never tried to “take her down” because she was literally making 10x more money for the family than he ever did not because he cared so much about her especially knowing now that they aren’t even on speaking terms.
I just remember how everyone hated Miley for her rebel faze but now we praise her for what she did and she’s an even bigger A list celebrity now. Especially how we’ve learned just how toxic Disney is with kids and the contracts. Props to her for real.
I call her rebel phase.... boner jams!
Props for telling children to pole dance and do drugs? Lol great job.
@@HowManyHintsDoYouNeedI think you missed the point
@@user-s0m30n3 I think you missed the fact she had children who looked up to her. What has Miley done since this stupid stunt? Nothing.
@@HowManyHintsDoYouNeed she had to grow up 😂… she didn’t want to be known as “Hannah Montana” she’s Miley and knew that some fans wouldn’t except it. She had to break free from Disney, did you watch the video?
She had to break the kid-friendly Disney image if she ever wanted to be allowed to do her own thing. People judged the absolute sh*t outta her for it, but it was brilliant & worked perfectly
I think the Jonas brothers did the same
Brilliant is being a good person which inturn is trying to do what is appropriate, good & pure.
@Bruh Gizmo fame and millions of money, sounds like a good compensation to me I wouldn’t mind to say the least lol
@Magic Dan Schneider is in no way involved with the reboot.
Yeah because appropriating black culture to keep her popular was BRILLIANT.
She's really lucky that she's one of the few to get out of Disney's clutches, they tried to own her name, image and her whole identity. That whole "wild phase" was so smart, it was the perfect decision for her, so the world would stop associating her with the identity that Disney created.
Go away
You missed the entire point of the title. She wasn't lucky, she's a freaking genius lol. We all thought she was doing crazy wild stupid ish.. but she was doing it on purpose to get out of her contract.. wow!
you didn't watch the video
The lesson is, you can escape Disney but never a guy without a mustache.
@@TheHonestTruth did they edit the comment?
I think the legal name change was more like Disney owning the name Miley Cyrus, so she couldn't release or perform anything under that name independantly, or not produced by Disney. Then Miley Cyrus was her legal name. The loophole is you are free to use your actual name in any terms you wish. It's your name, so can you create material or perform under it; no-one can say you can't identify using your legal name.
I never knew they trademarked peoples names. That's freaking sketchy AF
@@ithamarlowe6158Yes, I learned about it way back in the 70s. When The Jackson Five left Motown, they became The Jackson's why?..Coz Motown OWNED their original name. Same thing with Tina Turner, in the divorce from Ike she wanted nothing but her name why? Because everyone white and black knew who Tina Turner was. No one knew Anna Mae Bullock from Nutbush Tennessee!
What about Dave chappelle?
We watched the video too. That’s what it was saying
@@ithamarlowe6158 it's all business. It stops people who shouldn't be marketing off the name doing so. It's less trademarking the person's name, more trademarking the name as a brand. If you couldn't trademark names then what would stop me creating merch for Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus?
You’ve just humanised Miley’s journey♥️. All this time we were lead to believe she was going crazy and unruly, in reality she was breaking free and untangling herself from Disney. Thank you for this♥️.
I loved it when they asked Paul McCartney about her "scandalous behaviour" and he went "pff it's pretty mild stuff, I don't understand why people are so upset"
Most of what she did was basically just her rebranding to the Miley Cyrus we know today,people back then were upset cuz they saw nothing more than Hannah Montana in Miley
People always want to make Sagittarius ppl look bad when they’re just sweet ppl. Other people do worse yet they pummel her about small shit.
@@Lexiannasam Please don’t bring horoscope nonsense here.
@@zirenitamon i already did. What are you going to do about it ? I’ll wait 💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽
@@Lexiannasam Hahhahah
she's lucky she had a mother who cared and a father who knew the industry tricks. there are so many child stars who didn't have that kind of support and her family is definitely a major part of the reason she was able to come out of the "controversial" phase with an intact reputation. (unlike say, Amanda Bynes) good foundation, good for her.
Yeah a one hit wonder knew the industry well, that’s why he sold his daughter to Disney,
Billy ray is most likely a nonce and in the club, Miley is defo in the club
Definitely the IDEAL family to take up a child becoming famous. It seems like such a traumatic experience.
well did macaulay culkin have the same?
@@skylineXpert I don't know? Did he? Alot of child stars have parents who extort them so I mean you can always go watch interviews and stuff from McAuley
Whatever happened to Amanda?? I remember her. Wonder what happened??
Man the respect I have for her is immense. Rewatching that 2013 VMA performance now, you can just see the absolute precision of calculation that went in to all of it.
Good for her. Down with disney!
Disney owes her a HUGE PAYCHECK. I was in love with Hannah Montana when i was a kid. To hear that one of my favorite childhood/teenage actresses were paid so low is shocking and pisses me off. She should have been getting atleast $150k per episode. WTF DISNEY!
Yupss 💯
I used to make fun of her when she did the whole "we cant stop" thing. but later on, I knew she was trying to generate publicity and be "out there". she truly is a smart person for what she's done. how else would she have broken the chains of disney.
Art is subjective I may not like any of her songs, but that doesn't mean her work isn't valid. so for any of yall who say what she does is gross or degenerate, at least she's doing what's she likes.
Same, I thought it was stupid then.. but now seeing what she’s done 10 years later, she was really smart and we don’t give her enough credit for that.
It's genius how she played Disney and everyone who thought she was a squeaky clean Disney star.
That was her way of showing she's not meant just for little kids. She wasn't gonna let disney control her. How do you explain the lyrics "It's our party we can do what we want"?
I really overlooked the line “ we run things, things don’t run we.”
@@Wildtingz I thought she was singing "we run dance dance for a week" till literally this year so 🗿
Being a Disney star really is crazy.....I honestly couldn't even imagine them swearing so seeing Miley and her wrecking ball music vid really was insaneeee......
Disney: spends decades exploiting children
Conservatives: this is awesome, take our money
Disney: acknowledges minorities exist
Conservatives: omg, cancel them
@@xp8969 Hell they don’t even acknowledge Minorities considering they literally filmed near a concentration Camp in Mulan where there where Uyghur Muslims were in there and they thanked the Goverment for filming there
I think it broght a light to child exploitation from Disney and the corpos. Or at least it did to me.
@@xp8969 yikes what kind of woke weirdo typed this 😂😂😂
@@theroseproject9681 awww, I'll apologize for hurting yer feelings but unfortunately th facts don't care 😂
I never believed her “wild phase” was anything other than separating herself from the child star and wanting people to see her as an adult. I didn’t believe her and Liam we over he just couldn’t stick it out while she changed peoples perceptions and then boom they got back together. But I felt like it was all planned and I predicted she would mellow out and she did. I did not however predict Liam’s cheating and all his shit. Glad she is free and I loved Flowers.
At first I was confuse on the way she portray herself lately but now it makes sense. Good for her❤️
Isn’t that what Kanye doing now.🤷🏽🤷🏽
@@khadraabdulahi2486did he have a life time Disney contracts?
I always had a feeling that her phase when she went "wild" was planned because unlike other child stars that went crazy as an adult Miley never spiraled out of control. She simply rebranded so she can be who she actually is as an person and not be under that pressure of working under a shady company that forces their actors and actresses to be role models to children
Well she did say she had to kill the old miley to move on, and its true, most child stars have a hard time finding work after their cute phase is over, cuz people can't separate the two
But Disney is for children so it makes sense if the bottled their actors in that child image to appear child friendly.
@@shenadarling50 From a business standpoint good for disney and from Miley standpoint her wildness was good for her business
@@shenadarling50 the problem is that they're making children be role model to other children while affecting them and their mental health negatively. These kids work for 12 hours go to school and if they're talented like Miley or Demi they also have to make music, record them and go on tour on top of that
@@theoutsiderjess4869 I'm saying this purely to play devil's advocate, but isn't that the case for all children that become wildly successful in media not just Disney stars.
i think the reason miley didn’t have a mental breakdown like other child stars is because she understood what was happening to her, she knew she was having an identity crisis from growing up as a character. this happens to many child stars but they don’t rationalise it in the same way miley did, when she speaks in that interview she acknowledges what happened to her. other former child stars can just be unhappy and confused and don’t know why because everyone around them is still in their head. miley is a strong intelligent person to be able to have things not go that way for her
Yea overall very intelligent business woman. I also think having parents experienced in this business had a massive impact on her. Her parents never locked her up but supported her in her ways, but also understood what needed to be done to reach her goals to break free from Disney.
A lot of child actors from the 90s are now total meth heads or crack heads once the poster childs now crack fiends.
Right? Britney was victimized the most! Who knows what they did to her! Britney claims to this day they injected her with drugs and other horrific things not to mention she claims they robotically cloned her. The rumor that she died was debunked by Justin and doctors in the 90’s and Britney herself has mocked those rumors and proved it’s still her because why would her family control a clone when a clone would automatically listen to them? Clones have no free will so they wouldn’t rebel so obviously our Britney has been with us all along plus clones can’t get pregnant because even biological clones don’t have the reproduction to create a baby. Cloners wouldn’t be dumb enough to do that. My dad is a physical scientist and explained this to me. If someone is truly cloned, their DNA may be the same, but they are basically a robot. They have no soul. A normal human being can’t live or breathe without a soul or spirit. A biological clone can’t produce children because they are controlled by technology and programmed from birth. So those people saying Britney died in the 90’s have a screw loose somewhere especially since Britney debunked it herself but yeah Miley was blessed. Out of all the Disney stars she’s the ONLY one who made it and survived without a breakdown. She’s one strong person 💕
Because she knew she is playing a double character on tv.. she wanted out from disney.. and thats what she did
@@ammarammar4045 i’m talking about the psychology of it obviously. for a child growing up as a character or public figure there’s more to it than that
Miley aged perfectly in my life haha. The whole transformation she did came right when I turned 13. I got to enjoy her in every stage of my life and it fit perfectly haha
I have nothing but respect for this woman.
She recently turned 30, and she has never looked and sounded better. Her last album, Plastic Hearts, is probably my favourite of hers, and she has many, many great singles.
I don't think she had a "wild" phase. It was just her being silly, being a teenager because, in her teens, she wasn't allowed to really experience it at the time. She was literally discovering who she was. We all have to go through that part of life.
She is one of the best singers out there, and she doesn't need to use auto-tune at all. She is amazing, and I love her music.
Black MIrror's "Ashley O" was enough for me to realize the symbolism Miley dealt with. It truly felt like a punch in the face to Disney, too.
What do you mean?
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 this miley cyrus black mirror episode czcams.com/video/8AjLfJJIyrg/video.html
That was more based on Brittany Spears drama but okay
@@sheyannebarton1235 Yes, I'm aware of the metaphors made in the show were related to Spears "Free Britney" which was a powerful message. But you must not forget that Miley was casted by Charlie Brooke for a reason. Miley brought the experience to life due to her relations with the character. She was perfect for the role.
Especially appropriate that dad in the Black Mirror episode was a "mouse killer"
Not only was it very calculated but her parents DEFINITELY played a huge role in it. I can just imagine either parent telling her "just be as provocative as you can be....we know that's not who you are but if you want to break out of Disney's control, this is the only way."
I agree. I can def see her dad telling her to make these decisions.
Long ago I thought "wth is her parents thinking, letting her be like that"
Now, I realize they took a really risky and brave decision for doing all that. Huge respect for them
There was a pictorial she did with her dad (not creepy but it was very… “he is okay with hanging with his daughter when she’s dressed like that?!?” and it makes a lot more sense now.
I feel like Billy Ray Cyrus is a great dad
@@kagato23wow I remember that and I thought it was weird but now he just seems like an amazing dad lol
I didn't really know much about her until my wife had started watching The Voice in the room with me, while she was a host. She is very articulate and smart.
If you watch all of miley's interviews you will know how smart she is since childhood, she always knew what she's doing, many people doesn't pay attention and could see only her twerking etc., Even her dad said that she's very smart girl in his interview.
Can’t believe it has been 9 years since Wreaking Ball. It seemed so wrong back then, but now, it seemed so right.
I’m glad she managed to find her path.
I didn't check the video to see how old it is but when I read your comment I was in awe because it feels like it has been released some months ago or a year ago at max, "Wrecking Ball" and "We can't stop" feel so recent, Miley meant a lot to me growing up.
They also threw A 'wrecking ball' on traditional animation.
This comment really backs us my claims
I've also said in just the last 10 years society worldwide has deteriorated morally more than in the past 400 years
It's shocking.
I really don't want to live in this world too long, severe depression is the normal mental state of most ppl. We see ppl killed for no reason. Its crazy
@@lunaa2926 lmao while we live in the safest time in earths history. NUT UP
@@michaelsnyder8661 haha life isn't safe!!
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I lolled
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Made me LOLOL😂
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I’ve always respected the hell out of Miley, even during her “wild” phase. She’s amazing.
She literally said on a podcast that it's funny when people though shed had lost her mind it was where she was in full control. Love her
I don't know anyone who thinks she lost her mind. It's pretty obvious everything she did was planned and ran through all the people involved. It's funny to see all the people like you who are so shocked by everything.
@@AmysAttitude Jesus, I can smell the superiority complex you’re trying to ride here. Congratulations for being in the few bubbles that believed she was sane but in 2013 most people ran their mouths about how fame got to her and what not
@@simbatheking1005right 😭 and most of us were like 13 when this was all happening i guess this guys that intelligent
Mileys wild phase was a calculated business decision, that's why she never spiraled downward post-disney. She was always the same person, she just magnified certain aspects of her personality to reach the goals she wanted to achieve. I'm mileys age and, while many people my age really trashed her name during that wild phase, I was always vocally supportive of her. Without that phase, she wouldn't have had anywhere near the career she has today. She's an inspiration for sure
Yes such an inspiration whilst having such negative influence over children...🙄
she’s not an inspiration. this is all a white perspective. she exploited black culture to do this, she could’ve went ‘wild’ without going ‘urban/black’. she did a lotta things wrong
@@runimcomingforyou.4505 it's your fault if you can't teach your own children to listen to gospel music instead of satanic pop music.
She is no saint. She is closer to the devil than she is to God, stop idolizing people so much.
@@runimcomingforyou.4505 it's the parents job to monitor their kids
Always felt bad that she was basically owned by Disney.
So I agree, maybe all that bizarro behavior was on purpose and if it was, good for her.
It was she's really smart I love her
I have a whole new respect for this woman.
And now she is a Grammy award winner ❤️ very much deserved
I remember other, older stars referring to her as "genius" at the time - I think they knew exactly what she was doing, I found it confusing 😂
Miley is a serious contrast to Selena. Miley used the “Bad” press to reshape her image and keeps eyes on her to sell.Selena used a much measured approach and kept a lot hidden. I’m glad they both made it out in their own way.
Ah, the glorified relationship of her and bieber made us realized that she was just another heartbroken teenager. And the best part is, bieber gets the villain part while she can keep singing about her relationship. Very wise indeed
selena got sick. that illness hindered her to be "adventurous".
I'm guessing you mean Selena Gomez because there is only one Selena powerful enough to be just one name and she didn't make it out.
What are you talking about? Selena was always an angel, why are you suggesting something nefarious?
She wasn’t hiding much she’s just very boring and media trained. What scandal did you expect from Selena ?
most teen idols go on to have some form of meltdown due to the pressures of early fame & identity crisis, let alone miley who literally portrays a character living a double life for much of her teenage years. i wasnt the least surprised she ‘acted up’ the way she did but i’d be impressed if it was all more of a business move !
2:55 that was the most smooth ad transition I have ever seen rofl.
Listening to her on the Joe Rogan Experience it becomes quickly apparent that she's a very sharp and talented young woman. She knew exactly what she was doing and the "controversies" around her propelled her in to stardom that far surpasses her time under the Disney Overlords
Its great how much your opinions can change as adult or a child. As a child I didn't like her wild phase and didn't understand why it happened but as an adult who understands how evil Disney/hollywood can be I think what she did was smart and the best thing for her career
@Natt:3 Not really...
@@AbsoleteAim she is right you are wrong
And also the fame she brought about was the complete opposite of the imagery that disney sells. So by bigging up her new image, she also forcefully distanced herself from the Disney persona.
@@seyio1717 It can't be proven that either opinion is wrong, what are you talking about
What I don’t understand is that her father and many other people close to her (Dolly Parton is her godmother) have been in the entertainment industry for decades before this. Her parents were also quite wealthy at the time. How come nobody stopped to consult a real agent (not just her mom who clearly didn’t do a good job) or do some research first? Seems like it was many years till they realized “wow, we could be getting paid way more”
bad management can be a real doozey no matter how well funded or connected an entity is, I'm just glad she got anything considering how little the mouse had miley's interest at heart
i thought the same thing. Miley talked about this once. She said that while they were in the Ent industry.. TV and Disney are wayyyyy different than the music industry. Basically they thought what they were doing was standard not realizing they were getting taken advantage of
I would imagine they also saw the show as her first real big break, especially at first. She was basically unknown to us until HM. I also doubt they expected her fame to blow up as huge as it did & so quickly.
The other problem is how much these companies can take advantage of a musician when their musical career is directly tied to a character they own. I heard of the same thing happening to the biggest Mexican pop group Rebelde/RBD who had sold out shows worldwide but weren’t really making much money & certainly no royalties because their music careers were directly tied to their Telenovela (also called Rebelde). Again, the artists were young & not huge stars before the show, they also had not expected their music careers to take off the way they did because of the show. Due to contracts, these companies own them for some time.
The contract is key to any business deal. My engineering contacts teach told the class many times, if you can't work things out in the contact while everyone is in love with each other thinking of the millones they'll make together, things won't work in the long run. Always be sure to review the contract and negotiate whatever needs to be changed.
Companies generally don't suddenly decide to update the contact to give away profits. That's why they should have contacted a lawyer or consultant upfront if they didn't fully know the industry standards. They even could have limited the terms to year before they'd need to renegotiate. There's lots of options up front, but once the deal is signed, not much can legally be done.
I read that her dad had to be on the show in order for her to get the part so maybe that has something to do with it
You‘ve just won a new fan for Miley. I‘m not into her music at all, but i couldn‘t help but like her, when i happened to stumble across an interview with her. She looks so incredibly nice.
But now knowing this story i really celebrate her.
She references her controversial reputation and explains some of her journey in one of her recent songs
“Yes, I've worn the golden G-string
Put my hand into hellfire
I did it all to make you love me and to feel alive”
“There are layers to this body
Primal sex and primal shame
They told me I should cover it
So I went the other way
I was tryin' to own my power
Still I'm tryin' to work it out
And at least it gives the papers somethin' they can write about”
And people think she wasn't attention seeking. 😂😂
The name change could also be because you can't trademark a person's legal name and prevent them from doing business as themselves. She would then have a legal right to perform under the name Miley Cyrus, and there's nothing Disney could do to stop it even with a trademark on the name.
Yeah that was my first thought. I'm surprised he didn't catch that and spun a whole conspiracy theory instead
Then how did Warner own Prince's name?
The legal theory expressed by Patrick here is abominated. You can't just weasel out of contracts by changing your name. The point is, she changed her situation. the contract stayed the same, but her situation changed.
@@ahhchoo8488 he probably could have released music under 'Prince Nelson' . I guess it just coincided with his legal name. He would have signed off on it.
@@hiimjustin8826 you’re wrong, they totally can. Emma Stone has talked a lot about this - her real name is Emily Stone, and she wanted to use her real name as her stage name but it was already taken so she had to change it to Emma Stone. They can’t trademark your real name but they definitely can trademark a stage name, and you can’t use it if it’s already trademarked, even if it is your real name
I'm a 30 year old guy from Eastern Europe but honestly as I've aged I've come to appreciate Miley's talent and character more and more. She's a real interesting case.
How sad
His around the same age. Nothing's sad about growing up seeing someone famous grow up in contrast of your life. It's called life
yeah, she has a very interesting "character"
Hehe old and bald
I became a fan of Mikey Cyrus through her bangerz album phase cause they were ABSOLUTE BOPS but seeing this whole story just makes me appreciate her so much more omg
What she did is brilliant. She risked her reputation and image. But she knew what she was doing. She did it to find her freedom and she got it.
I didn't scrutinize her like everybody else did because her music wasn't my taste.
I find it so amazing and brave that she risked her image to the entire world just to find happiness, independence, and peace within her professional life…she has all of my respect
ABSOLUTELY!!💯💯💯💯💜💜💜💜💜
I was a huge detractor of Miley when she started to break out of the cookie cutter Disney image, I suppose a part of it was because I grew up with that image. Looking back now it was never Miley that was the problem, it was Disney that tried to keep her strings attached.
Calm down it’s just a ho
Yeah it’s not so easy being a child star with fans constantly hating you for not being the image they want/remember. It’s a huge reason why child stars go crazy.
The thing here is I understand that Miley wanted to break free from Disney I just wish that she didn't glamorize drugs at the time that's all. :(
I was the same way at first, but then I had to take a few steps back and realize that people need space to be themselves, while recognizing that the character they play on tv is not necessarily who they are in real life.
Same i remember when i was 8 during the bangerz faze i would tell everyone how much i missed the “old her” and would literly prey for her to become “good” again but now i understand why she did it and like her better as her true self lol
Miley was born to be a superstar, you can hear it in her voice when she sings and see it when she performs. She's smart and such a strong woman after going through so much
0:43 "Stay Hydrated" u said this AS I WAS REACHING FOR MY WATER BOTTLE. WTF. Howwwww
I think she was able to maneuver her way out of Disney's clutches because her family is already familiar with the business through her father's success. Most other child stars didn't have that kind of support and all went to shit for them.
It was her mom who signed her up for that one sided Disney contract in the first place 🤷♂️
@@jasonallen3678 I don’t know the specifics but I would imagine that they didn’t really have much negotiating power in the beginning. His dad isn’t really that big of a deal compared to Disney so what can they possibly negotiate with?
@@miggywiggy You're correct. Billy Ray Cyrus back in the early 2000's was just a washed up one hit wonder. Hannah Montana revived his career! When Miley was auditioning, they did not care that she was a Cyrus. She was denied the role several times. Her dad was casted after the pilot. And her character's name was Zoey later changed to Chloe. It's because of her dad messing up takes by calling her by her real name Disney changed it to Miley Stewart. Things snow balled from there and they started to write the series around her real life.. I think it's because of that- that people think "Her daddy bought her a show" when that's far from the truth lol
@@nerdymisc3402 Yeah but billy Jean’s one hit gained him some attention
Her “Blondie” phase that she’s currently in is by far her most iconic. Blending pop, rock, and high fashion, Plastic Hearts and Attention will go down as the era that cements Miley into an icon!
Blondie is iconic
People who go through a "Blondie" stage are not
@@mistiroberts1576 that is your perspective, what Deborah and their band did will always be timeless. However, it doesn’t mean someone cannot succeed in their success.
It may not be your standards of “iconic” but she’s undeniably found a brand that’s suitable for her
@@TheRealAdaWong if you copy someone else you arent iconic.
@@mistiroberts1576 Jayne Mansfield rose out of Marilyn’s style, Ariana Grande debut on top charts hitting Mariah’s notes and covering her songs, and Jennifer Lopez was put on the map after Selena.
In which their fame would far eclipse the projects or period they branded themselves in initially, there is no such thing as copying when homage is being paid by one that was set forth by their successor.
Besides, you’re failing to realize Miley has already achieved iconism through Hannah Montana as a child star, everything done past that point has been her own decision.
@@TheRealAdaWong Jayne Mansfield was a contemporary of M.M. and wore the contemporary styles of the day- she was really nothing like MM and was doing her own thing
Ariana Grande is a Disney cookie cutter pop star with bubblegum music and no originality. She is famous because of Disney
Jennifer Lopez is a 0 talent lackey whose only claim to fame is playing a character similar to herself and Miley Cyrus is trying to be the new Madonna.
None of these people are original or iconic.
The way the ad was incorporated into the video was freaking hilarious
The transition towards the ad though, it's so funny 😂
Disney: You’re too crazy! We don’t want anything to do with you anymore
Miley: Okay
Disney: …wait
luckily they had wizards of waverly place which kept their ratings high
@@PatrickCc ....don't tell me, let me guess, Disney screwed those people too?
@@J-leaf To put it plainly… Yes 🤷🏻♀️
@@elianasrv for f**k sakes
@@J-leaf they screwed everyone over it seems
I always thought that her "crazy phase" was due to her being frustrated with Disney and how restricted or displeased in general she became.
It does make sense especially with what you pointed out in this video that it did help her escape that identity/association with Disney.
What’s sad is that as a kid, you read all of these articles and things on the media about how she’s “gone crazy” but in reality she was trying to escape the crazy
She had a stable mom and dad in her life. Very rare for Hollywood.
Yeah I mean, just think about it, while she was going through this "crazy phase", did she ever have to go rehab? Did she ever get a DUI? Get injured? Overdose? Get into any kind of real trouble at all? Nope. There aren't even that many photos of her partying apart from when she was promoting her album. That's the clear give away that it was all just for show to escape the Disney image.
your transitions into the sponsorships are priceless! and the content is valuable. Sometimes not deep in detail but straight to the point! Salute!
Thank you for this video! I saw headlines of her and never really think what is going on behind closed doors. I have more respect for her now 👏🏾
Miley really dissociated of Disney so well that I honestly struggle to remember she was Hannah Montana, she’s probably the most successful Disney start to date.
Her and zemdaya
Definitely an icon.
And Justin timberlake... Brittney spears...Christina Aguilera
I'm happy that I never looked at Miley negatively during her "wild phase". When she started making music that I wasn't in to, I stopped listening. It's really that simple. No need to hate on her and bring her down for whatever she was doing. She wasn't seeking attention, your attention was already on her.
This
Right I did the same thing you should check out her new stuff I love her pink album so much
I used to hate in her when she was on the Hannah Montana show. Eventually, I stopped caring about her.
Now, I know why she did what she did. She wanted to break away from her Hannah Montana image.
She was seeking attention though lmfao
@@HowManyHintsDoYouNeed and you loved it 😜
Love how everyone acts like it was ‘planned’ with no evidence, and on top of that still does the ‘wild phase’ to this day, meaning it wasn’t a ruse.
Now I see why she changed her entire look with cutting her hair, doing half naked photo shoots and dancing on a pole, she was trying to make her own name for herself and her future other then always being known as Hannah Montana. She wanted more mature fans different music and not her always being owned by Disney. I respect her a lot she worked so hard as a child and growing up, the stress she went through on that show and being paid less then others. Being controlled and told who she is and isn’t.. she did good by saying fuck Disney and doing shit her own way.
I always liked miley when everyone hated her, i remained a fan to this day. She is not a bad person. Everything she did was done for a reason. She also made some really awesome songs. I understand completely why she changed. I'm just glad she is free and being able to be her true self. She sacrificed so much of her childhood so that we could have a fun childhood. Miley has become so underrated it's just sad. She is a great singer/actress and i will continue to support her. People hate her because she is real, not fake like most celebrities. I will stand by her side until the end. Her music saved my life more then once. Our personalities are also really similar in real life, that's why i relate to her so much. #Mileyforever. 🖤
Same! I absolutely loved the Bangerz era. Hannah Montana premiered when I was like 6 and I still remember seeing the first commercial for the show, literally from that day on she has meant so much to me. All throughout everything I’ve always loved seeing how she grew and evolved. Although her psychedelic era with Wayne Coyne wasn’t my favorite tbh, I thought it was slightly odd, but I still loved that she was having fun and being herself. But the Bangerz era was my favorite, in fact I found it exciting when she cut her hair and well.. the rest is literally history.
yesssss she's honestly so inspiring bc she's changed so much through the years and always seems to just be growing more into herself. i love it and her energy so much. :)))
Yeah me too I feel so sad that they made a character out of her who she really is and took her name she had went through so much and had to work even harder to get away from it. I love can't stop and I still listen to her Disney music because I'm a nostalgic girl
It’s sad not real
I remember looking at the short-haired, "wild" version of Miley ten years ago. I was 15 back then, and I only remembered her as one of my favorite Disney stars from my favorite Disney show "Hannah Montana". When I first saw her like that, I was completely shattered and disappointed with her for taking that path. Until my cousin and my sister explained to me that she did not enjoy being the Disney girl she was framed into. I did not know it was this complicated contract-wise until I saw this video today. So I actually salute her for sticking up to Disney for herself.
This was really informative and good! Thank you for putting this all together.
The grammerly plug transition was genius!
Keep in mind that one of her mentors was/is Dolly Parton. Dolly famously knew how to and would admit that she plays the game when she is in public and what not, but that she's doing it on purpose. Just like her, Miley learned how to play the game for the public and media
I'm so glad you explained the reasons behind Mileys wild streak, because people are confused about her actions. That Disney controlled her like a robot or a puppet, and then took advantage of her by underpaying her, makes perfect sense why she rebelled. I really like Miley, and admire her for taking a stand, and taking her life back. Disney is supposed to be a corporation, that supports children and advocates for kids. They have TV shows, movies, cartoons, and theme parks that cater to kids and families. And, to find this out about Disney, is really disappointing. They're about control and corporate greed, and not about kids and families, as far as I can see. Shame on you Disney, and hooray for Miley!
I admire whoever backed her risk taking, walk forward bravely.
They've been greedy since Walt Disney had a creation taken away from him by another studio. Especially once Eisner took over.
I think people judged her harshly because they didn't get why she "went crazy." I admit that I didn't get it either, but now I sure do.
Disney is very VERY dark. You are just scratching the surface.
@@chillylizerd yes whoever stood with her through it all, they are friggin heroes man
I love how you worked in the Grammarly bit so effortlessly!! 👏👏👏👏
My little sister had me watching Hannah Mantana because at the time I had to share the TV with her whenever I visited my parents 🤦🏽♂️ so when she did the twerk and started blowing up I was like HANNAH 🤯
I was 1 of the persons who totally judged her and was disappointed with her (but was still rocking her music). But being older and seeing this vid really clears things up. Plus it makes me wonder if this is exactly what Kanye is doing now 🤔
U should maybe look into that theory
Wow you seem to have been spot on, time traveler!
That is not what Kanye is doing. Kanye is unstable and won't take his meds. Miley is perfectly stable. Plus what conglomerate would Kanye be trying to force to distance themselves from him?
I don’t know if what Kanye is doing now has anything similar to what Miley did, because first he was not known as a young prince, who could never do anything wrong and had to be perfect all the time, second he’s name is not attached to any huge conglomerate. If he does what he does to see himself far from the Kardashian’s name I think he is doing wrong, ‘cause it gives them more more marketing and they don’t care about bad publicity, they want any kind of publicity.
@@nicolethompson2399 He has binds with companies like Baalenciaga that I’m sure he’d love to be dropped.
@@nicolethompson2399 Honestly I never really liked Kanye much but the more and more I hear him talk.. The more hes starting to make sense.
I think this man is perfectly sane and calculated.
Killing it back in the day and she’s still killing it. She truly is a pop culture icon and a is gonna cement herself as a legend out of the newer generation.
lol
@@FallingFeeling212 is there something you’d like to say?
@@ll4576 u pushing it a lil
@@carl3545 she has sold 100 million records worldwide is the best selling female artist with Ariana grande that was born in the 90‘s she has had a lot of impact on pop culture and has influenced many people and legends like Elton John Madonna etc keep praising her. Yes she is a future legend
people really only think of an image when it comes to miley but she is insanely talented. she always sang wonderfully but her voice got so amazing with age!!!
Disney child stars deserve a lot of respect for going through all of the trauma just because of a company unhumanly exploiting the Golden eggs- Goose of the moment that can attract income, there is not much to envy for their lifestyle not gonna lie, and I'm glad most of them can escape that nightmare; now I wonder how much Disney affected Demi Lovato too
The bigger the reward the higher risk you have, it's like any other life endagering jobs
@@stellviahohenheim absolutely, equal exchange, but given the kids young age when they start, a line must be drawn sooner or later
@@stellviahohenheim Yes, but usually people make informed choices to engage in these life endangering jobs as adults. Miley and the other disney stars were just innocent, naive little kids.
Patrick CC makes great content. Thank you for doing this.
She does great classic rock covers, and has great talent! And she's great at putting the paparazzi in their place!
It is so sad that Miley got so much shit for just trying to figure out who she was in this crazy world and becoming an adult where everyone’s eyes are on her
she has a new song in her latest album “Plastic Hearts” about this called Golden G String
Looking back on it why were people so obsessed with seeing celebrity’s have a down fall, it was so bad that even South Park called everyone out on it for basically attacking people for no reason than “oh they’re famous”
Mad props to her for taking her life back from Disney.
Yeah some "humans" don't get the luxury of leaving big corp family like Disney. They just go straight to hell if they step outside the box.
The way you slid into the ad read was smooth! I still hit that fast forward but good stuff 👍
That grammarly plug was smooth 🔥🔥😂😂
He really snuck that in there😂
Going through public “bad boy/bad girl” phases seems like a common tactic used by child actors frozen in angelic public images, but most either either simply repel all spotlight or end up fucking up their internal sense of self to the point where they lose their creative drive in addition to their former molds. Miley and Shia LeBeouf are two that seem to have succeeded in rebranding to a more authentic present while not getting lost in the sauce.
An Even Stevens video would be rad btw. I know about and am a fan of Shia’s recent art and public-image curation, but I have no clue about Christy Carlson or the almighty Beans.
You lost me at shia tf lol the guy was forced into pop culture exile and youre saying he succeeded? Lol
Several years from the VMA performance, I'm still clapping in awe. She was really calculated with her moves. Someone to definitely learn from.
I was way too old for the whole Hannah Montana bit , but Wrecking Ball struck a cord with me because of a painful part of my life I was going through at the time. And We Can't Stop , I listened to the lyrics instead of just judging Miley's appearance and behavior , and found them to be empowering for me because of how much my life was changing at that time. I remember her performance on SNL when she performed a ballad and she couldn't hold back the tears and thought she's grieving her break up with Liam on stage in front of millions, very powerful and very vulnerable...
For the record, I always loved her!!! I grew up with her, and never for a minute thought she was a spoilt child celebrity! She embodied the older sister I neve had, I loved her for her voice and imitated her everytime, everywhere. And I loved her even more when she dropped Can't be tamed album, believe me... I was so happy not seeing her as "Hannah Montana". People called me crazy for liking her since she went wild but I never understood the hate that she received. I'm glad that you made this video... ❤❤❤
Coming out with the banger content recently Patrick!
true
The Bangerz
Recently? The fuck? He always releases bangers. Not just recently
@@loganthorpe2543 you ok? Lol
@@loganthorpe2543 lmao bro never said he wasn’t but this new wave of content is my jam!
I find it so disgusting that people see a "Disney girl" cut her hair, dance more "provocatively" and smoke weed, and think the correct response is dragging her, writing condescending articles about her, talking about her as a crazy, out of control "wild girl", shaming her in every way imaginable. I vividly remember seeing a teen magazine during her "can't be tamed"-era that had written on the front page "Miley Cyrus - from babe to bitch". WTF? Yeah, calling her a straight up bitch in a magazine read by ten-year-olds is a great idea. It's a good thing she was intentional about it, and seems to have parents who had her back. So many former child stars are psychologically scarred by the industry and the media.
i find ir more fucked up the fact that they called a teenager a "babe"
Society with power hungry men influencing our childhood media love trying to get control of "untamed" women to become "domesticated", same with the modest/nerdy girl (typically with glasses and ponytail) turned into a "hot girl" so that her male peers can drool and ogle, im glad things have changed. Heteronormativity was really gross and predatory AF in the 2000s. 🤢🤢🤢
Unfortunately the media is controlled by the same people who control the sick mainstream pop music industry. The media will go after anyone who goes against the grain of the mainstream music industry, and they won't stop until they've either completely tarnished the reputation of whoever they're going after. This is why so many artists/actors wind up dead, as soon as they realise what's going on, that they have no freedom left, they're in too deep to get out of it. They either kill themselves because of the mounting pressure, or they get killed and it's made to look like suicide.
@@JosephFlores-yn4yi A teenager is probably still too old for the Disney P e a d o s
The main reason why she did that was to change a whole personality
Even when she was able to escape disney
She felt she was still under their control
The only way for her to become completely free was to strip anything she had in connection to disney
which basically includes her personality
I was one of the teenagers who looked down her nose at Miley Cyrus but to an extent I could understand why she "went nuts" at the time. She was under Disney's thumb for years and when she had the chance to go wild, she did. I wasn't too far off but I had no idea how deliberate it was. It makes so much sense x
That ad transition was so smooth, I can’t even be mad at there being an ad. Well done 👌
we need to give miley cyrus her flowers. she was so smart for doing her “crazy girl” phase so she could escape disney’s wrath and make a name for herself. look at her now. a living pop culture legend and shes not even 30 yet.
People can seriously expect her to be Hannah Montana for the rest of her life she's going to grow up and going to want to do growing up things deal with it that's her business not ours we can't change people or make them into something they're not or someone they don't want to be
This video just gave me a whole new perspective on Miley and I've got huge respect for her now! So darn clever to make Disney sever the ties so she can be free as she is. Well done girl! Be who you are!
Me too. My daughter was on her fan base at the time so I'm very familiar with this time in her life.
I could’ve sworn there was an episode of HM like that-where she pretended to be horrible and dumb to be dropped form something. She probably got inspiration from that xD Either way, atta girl!!!!
That was smooth the way you went into the ad lol😂
You're good. That Grammarly placement was epicly smooth!
Yo Pat you NEED to continue this series. I bet you're getting a ton of viewers from 22-32 who grew up with these people. Honestly this seems like your future on this channel with all due respect to the music. Keep it up, I hope you do a vid on Miranda Crosgrove
i wish he would do a video on lil pump and miranda cosgroves relationship
Yup I’m 22 yrs old and these videos are AMAZING. The 2000s meant a lot to my generation and we care about this stuff a lot. It’s nice to see this stuff now that we’re adults and starting to look back on it
@@dujuanwilliamson5246 yeah I'm 25 so these videos have been very nostalgic but at the same time showing the person they are today. Pat's stumbled upon a very great idea for a video series. I hope he gets a lot of growth on yt from this.
She actually does cuss a little.
i think people are finally starting to wake up and realize that miley did what she had to do to break away from the disney company. i believe it was hard for most back then because we were kids still growing up with hannah montana and we didn't have a more grown up outlook on life yet. anyways great video patrick! keep these going pleaseee!
I used to think Miley was weird when I was younger but she literally just wanted to express herself and break free of Disney's harsh mental chains. That's super respectable and real to me. Good for her, seriously
Yes
I love how slick you slide the ads in 🤣🤙🏿
I've been thinking recently that maybe Miley's "change" was all deliberate after finding out how much of a pit of despair being a Disney star can be. Glad that this video came up.
I can't comprehend how you've been managing to drop so many top tier quality content so frequently.
Mad respect!
I love her so much and I'm so glad she's doing well..I grew up with her and hearing her part of story is so inspiring
My guy the production value on your videos are top notch
Uk what, that makes 100% sense. She went through this bizarre phase, but maybe it wasn’t a phase, but a plot, a plot to get far away from Disney, basically a “I’m not Disney anymore” tour, and when that proved successful she went back to normal Miley, living her best life now
Wow. Way to steal the whole plot of this video in an attempt to make it your own.
Well, he did sum up a plot that seemed to take foreeeeever to get to the point.
Why are you repeating the whole video's talking point like you're figuring it out on your own using your amazing deductive skills?
@@mvnik437 It's exactly what the creator did. You think any of this is new? You think this hasnt already been discussed and considered before? What are you, 12? Did you just get here yesterday?
@@mvnik437 bitch what ?
Miley Cyrus rebel years raised me 🤣🙌🏾 She was wild but she didn’t seem out of control or spiraling like people made it seem. We Can’t Stop was a phenomenon 🙏🏾 I’ve always loved her through all her phases right till today. She’s an icon.
Facts!
This gives me a new respect for Miley. Never liked her older music but her new stuff is great. Probably since she's away from Disney now.