Crosley C3 Turntable... A Unique Looking Record Player You Should Avoid!
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2019
- Cool looking but that's about it. At $130 it's build quality is to cheap. For the roughly the same money you could buy a decent vintage table that works well. No link to purchase, please don't. Crosley, I'd love to see this table improved and priced at $175.
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The Crosley C3 has the same motor that Sony and Audio Technica uses. If you have speed control issues, remove the motor cover on the bottom. It has two potentiometer screws to adjust the 33 1/3 and 45 RPM. I replaced the cartridge and speed adjusted it using a strobe ring and strobe light. Dead nuts. In a blind test, people would think it was a $500 table.
You are a very good, thorough reviewer. I'd like to see you review more turntables etc.
You must have really low standards.
I dunno, I'm pretty happy with mine. It works fine for me. It cost AU$140 (US$100) here in Australia. Considering it uses an AT3600 cartridge and the closest turntables here that use the same cartridge start at $300. So taking that factor into account, it's pretty good value! The sound however is a bit thin and lacks warmth, but you can fix that up with EQ or get a separate preamp.
whered u get it?
I bought a red one from Nordstrom for 28.00 free shipping to stored added a ortofon cartridge and used a separate preamp. Sounds and works fine. Maybe you got a lemon should of sent it back. Lol
Quite possibly. I just didn't care for all the plastic, but if ya get one that works I'm sure its satisfactory for most peoples.
I have a question,I recently bought one but there’s no sound coming from mine,Do I need like a speaker? Or what do I need?
You need an amplifier and speakers
Having that counter balance loose like that IS a HUGE issue.
You nailed it in the comments when you said "for roughly the same money you could buy a decent vintage turntable that works well"----exactly. I would avoid anything made by Crosley (regardless of model), it's the cheapest junk you can buy. A new Audio Techica will blow this thing away, and for less money
Felt so bad for you watching this. The moment I saw that the felt mat had that terrible crease in it, I was done with the thing. Hope things turned out better for you in the end.
Yep, sent that pile back and got a nice Toshiba SR-A272 vintage table that already had the belt replaced and a decent cartridge for $100. I'll making a video on that later as I'm not a vinyl guy but I do enjoy it once in a while.
There's trimmers under the motor. you didn't look there
Maybe, do you have proof. I didn't remove the foot below the motor to see if it gives access to the motor. EVEN if it did, it doesn't matter. I'm reviewing this as an average consumer and that level of consumer will know even less than I do and will definitely not be taking anything apart and making adjustments. I wouldn't have kept this turn table anyway for many other reasons to do with its very low quality vs the price. I sent it back to Amazon for a full refund and found a nice Toshiba TT from the late 70s that its belt and cartridge had been replaced with low hours for $100. Works perfectly fine and sounds great.
BTW: If you think the counterweight in the arm is loose, you have not dealt with many vintage players! Mine is just fine! The only mystery is how the anti-skate works, but it somehow does! Easy test: Keep the stylus guard on (don't want to damage the diamond!) and set the arm on the platter without mat. It gets drawn inward a bit, bu then stops, so antiskate is indeed at work :)
As I stated in my long rant: do not use the built in preamp, and this el-cheapo selling for 59 bucks sounds just dandy, like any other run of the mill vintage table from a Japanese maker!
I saw this review after i had already ordered the crosley C3, when mine arrived i was worried will it be slow?, mine was just the opposite too fast at 37+ almost 38 rpm , however i have a background in electronic and love a good puzzle , after several emails to crosley support trying to get someone who knew there shit(that didn't happen) i started to look at the electronics under the adhesive plastic , and guessed right they are using a sync motor as advertised similar to the EG-530sd-3f this motor has two variable resistors(POTs) housed inside the motor case with two holes to access them , also the foot on this turntable under the motor if you remove the rubber pad, the plastic part of the foot has access to those holes , one POT is for high labeled H which is(45), one is labeled L for Low which is (33) , with a small flat blade precision screwdriver, i was able to set the speed up perfect , i used a hudson HiFI strobe disk and got perfect lock on the 33.33 line, also used an rpm app on my iphone to start the dial in process, it showed 33.4x but the strobe disk is your best (gold standard) choice for final speed , i also ordered some thicker rubber/foam 2" self adhesive pads from the A word, better then the orginal rubber ones ........Might mod this more down the road
I figured, thats go to know. If you could mod a better tone arm on to it that'd be awesome. The stock weight system is really sketchy. I like the style of this table just didn't want to rebuild nearly the whole thing to get it right.
@@iowaudioreviews yeah that's my next thought as well , tone arm weight and no skate adjustment , i am also thinking of taking it all apart and find a good local wood craftier to copy the plinth in a nicer exotic or hard wood . that motor is used in allot of inexpensive Turntables , and at 99.00 direct from crosley i wasn't concerned about digging into this , the motor has a AN6652 op-amp at the motor, they are using a trick called resistance feed feedback oscillation to get the frequency they need for speed control
That's not a synch motor. Synch motors are AC driven and lock onto the line frequency, like the U-Turn Orbit. This thing has a DC motor with a regulator circuit built around an AN6652 comparator chip. It's the same basic setup used in a lot of inexpensive phonographs - including the Crosley Cruiser, Collegiate, and Keepsake, the Audio-Technica LP-60, the belt-drive variant of the Pioneer PL600, the Sony PS-LX40P, and innumerable others. That said, it is actually a respectable setup if used with a platter that has some mass and a proper bearing, like this appears to have, and not those plastic-platter, nylon bushing slathered with lithium-grease things.
One mod you might consider (if you play 78s at all) is swapping in a Cruiser's motor control circuits. Try to keep the C3's original motor; it's the same type as the Cruiser's, but made slightly better. Sapping in the Cruiser's circuit can actually give you three-speed capability. Also, you can easily add a small potentiometer somewhere to allow for 'on the fly' pitch control - even if you don't do the 78 upgrade.
Oftentimes you can add some weight to the bottom of the platter (near the outside is best). More mass means better speed stability.
This is what it looks like when someone wants to take something simple and use it to make themselves sound smart. Funny that you also got a lot of it wrong.
Maybe you shouldn't stretched out the belt 'like a rubber band' at the beginning.
Good thing it's rubber, kinda what rubber is good for. Also, I checked to make sure the belt wasn't slipping, not my first beer. Most likely its just a cheap crappy turntable, that might be it.
@@iowaudioreviews that's good enough for me. Stay safe. Sir.
@@iowaudioreviews A belt don't have to be slipping to affect speed, Jr.
Fucking up it's circumference by stretching it out can change the ratio. That's why pretty much all belt driven turntables have speed adjustments on them, to compensate for differences in tension and circumference.
You sure are quite the defensive little peckerwood for somebody that doesn't know anything. How old were you when they found out you are autistic?
I really like the look and concept of this tt. This is a big let down, particularly the play in the tone arm weight. The speed can be adjusted no problem. Too many issues.
The funniest thing of all is that they claim the "MDF is audio-grade" on their website. I don't even know what that means? I bet the manufacturer who made the raw MDF for them would be very surprised that they made "audio-grade MDF."
There is no such thing as audio-grade MDF. However, MDF is a decent and cheap material to use for speaker cabinets or anything that you don't want to have a lot of resonance i.e., the plinth of a turntable. So, it is flakey advertising but also not totally BS. I guess that would make all MDF 'audio grade'.
Mine was fine got it from dicksmith not amazon yeah you got a bad one nirvana nevermind today awsome glad you got another look it's cheap but I am happy fx phono is great with it hopefully last a little while
Good to know it runs slow....ironically, I could tell just from how the Capitol logo was moving!
I'm saving my money for an Audio Technica LP60 record player
The Crosley T400 is identical to the Audio Technica LP60 and is made in the same factory and is lower priced.
Randy C True! I think people should stop saying Crosley is bad...The Cruiser is bad, just like any other low end 60$ turntables...But when you get to their higher ends turntable, they are way better ;)
Maybe, do you have proof. I didn't remove the foot below the motor to see if it gives access to the motor. EVEN if it did, it doesn't matter. I'm reviewing this as an average consumer and that level of consumer will know even less than I do and will definitely not be taking anything apart and making adjustments. I wouldn't have kept this turn table anyway for many other reasons to do with its very low quality vs the price. I sent it back to Amazon for a full refund and found a nice Toshiba TT from the late 70s that its belt and cartridge had been replaced with low hours for $100. Works perfectly fine and sounds great.
It's kind of obvious that the motor speed trims would be on the actual motor...... 'cause y'know.....reasons.....
@@mr.spongylikeaboss4987Doesn't matter, if you cant get to them. Shit should work right out of the box its what the consumer pays for. Maybe you should buy one and do your own CZcams video. Then you can show all the people that don't care to FIX a cheap turn table where the trim screws are.
@@iowaudioreviews What a defensive little dick you are. lol
I can see why your channel is so small.
Having unfortunately bought one of these based on looks alone I can say these are the main issues:
1) without a lid the turntable and mechanism get covered in dust all the time
2) the tone arm hanging out in space like that means it's very easy to knock and things to catch on it
3) the counter weight mechanism is confusing and didn't seem to even work properly on mine
Youd have done much better with the C6
*Cringe* I don't think a single player they make is ever properly set for speed out of the box. A typical buyer will have no idea how to correct for that without watching a couple of videos (assuming they have a similar motor) and would be lucky if they are not overwhelmed by the procedure. The two I've had both needed to have the motor adjusted using a strobe disk (not something most people would even have) while working from the underside with a jewelers screwdriver. That one is seriously out of adjustment or flat out defective. Not to rant, but there is another equipment reviewer on CZcams who seems to review dozens of Crosley products and never seems to get one that is messed up out of the box - that has not been my experience at all.
The crosley reviewer you mention is a paid shill.
Danion Kobb No he’s not. He’s just someone who can accept the fact that Crosley is actually good and that just the Crosley Cruiser is shit...
@@Segatari he literally says in the description of one of his vids he's endorsed by Victrola, so there's that. Same junk as Crosley.
Danion Kobb Ok, I can agree for Victrola (they sell turntable without adjustable weight and external belt drive for 399$) But Crosley, they sell high end turntable for cheap and those won’t damage your records. True, the Crosley Cruiser is shit but please name me a 60$ turntable that is actually good...Can you please name me this “Crosley Reviewer” that you are talking about?
I'm sorry, I had to stop watching after you couldn't figure out how to turn the turntable on. Next time, read the instructions.
Ok. I'd rather figure it out without the instructions, more fun and interesting. I could care less, I decided to send this thing back 30 seconds out ok the box. Felt like a piece of junk and performed like one. Have little interest in records and turntables, just winging a quick vid to stear people clear of this heap. But thanks for the belittlement so you can feel superior intellectually.
Wow! Thank you so much! Had you read the instructions, you might have not give. It a bad rap. You need to learn how to take criticism better, so suck it up!
good account of a disappointing machine thanks. shouldnt really be hard to make a good turntable these days.
Are you serious? If you were really just looking at sub $250 turntables, you were exclusively looking at the bottom end, period. That means, you were not exposed to what a proper turntable should be built like, and what a good sounding machine can get away with. Also, these days, any used turntables worth looking at have gone over the $400 mark. As it is, that C3 can be had for $59 (just use a search engine, will you?) and at that price it is a no-brain bargain.
That's a very cheap imitation of a pro ject rpm I carbon.
I tuned in to this because at $50 online, I thought some of the parts might be useful for testing out tonearms or pulling.parts to make my one plinth for a project. Then I remembered that it's a Crosley. They make junk and have always made junk. And I can't take an audio equipment review serious from a guy who uses a Fisher integrated amp. Without a tracking force gauge, it will ruin your records. Least expensive turntable worth buying is a u-turn or Pro-ject. Any vintage Dual from the seventies would be a huge step up.
That cheap imitation
🤮 The design is just... ATROCIOUS. Who in the world wants a Y shaped turntable?
10,000$ turntables have that design. It helps stability