Tesla FSD BETA obstacle testing #2
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This is a stress test and a half. Terrific work, great editing. You the only one who can make a car driving video entertaining for everyone.
The perfect amount of love for Carol
But not too much! He is watching us...🤣
Read this just as he said it😂
The perfect amount for you or for him?
I am continuously amazed by your ability to keep pushing your videos. This one had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, absolutely terrified by what you were gonna attempt next.
An absolute emotional rollercoaster, but also quite educational.
Thanks from Germany.
We have a really old FSD-Version here (and it didnt updated like yours) and i like to see how it "grow" over time in the US, hopefully it will come fast to us in europe.
FSD beta in Germany?... 🤨🤯
9:09 PM
3/23/2023
Pretty sure FSD isn't available in Europe yet.
@@pop_3310 Seems like their English isn't so great so that's probably what they meant. FSD, the software feature option you can buy, is available in Europe. But the FSD Beta program is not.
@@pop_3310 It is. But not FSD Beta. And it hasn't been updated in so long because of EU regulations.
I am in Italy and purchased FSD with my Tesla. I can confirm that it doesn't exist yet. Both the highway and city driving are only Adaptive cruise + autosteer (same stack as on highway with FSD prior to v11)
Glad it chose the box over Carol in your backroad trolley dilemma. That’s actually pretty sophisticated
Another stellar video and thank you Carol for helping!! Looks like some great improvements. I love that you attempted to approach this with some scientific rigor 😊
Not too much love, but also love the channel
Thank you to carol for being the behind the scenes glue that brought this together! 😊
What a throwback to times when FSD folded the mirrors at each corner! It didn't even know it still has this move in its options. Thanks for the video.
Wow you are brave!! And Carol is very patient! What a good sport. Thanks for sharing all the data from your experiments. It’s nice to see the progress. Now if only I would get v11! My wife got it last Sunday!
Just the right amount of love! 🙂
This is both funny and enlightening!
And your wife is brave... and put a lot of trust in you.
What trust is needed for this? There's no conflict of interest going on here.
Thank you, Carol! You aren't just helping your awesome husband, but also 80,000 or so other Tesla drivers around the world.
Carol is a Trooper! Looks to be having lots of fun with her hubby. Happy4Uboth and all who are around you!
The Inst 360 cams are freaking awesome!
I really like how you incorporate the 3rd person view in your videos and your editing in general.
Nice work. You two are hilarious!! I can't wait for the next iteration of this... and for FSDbeta to catch up with hopes and expectations.
So if anyone is unimpressed by this version of FSD beta, I would like to know what they’re smoking or drinking, because this is terrific stuff here, and before I go further, my hats off to you and your wife for doing these videos, because it really shows the progress that Tesla continues to make, and this demonstrates FSD beta’s capability.
So what will it be capable of in the very near future, because I don’t think most people truly understand any of this stuff and as you said, I don’t understand it myself, but I do know this, no other car manufacturer that has this level of capability without all of that external apparatus that you see some of these other so called self driving car companies like, CRUISE, LYFT, WAYMO, Uber and others who have equipped their leased vehicles, none of which they manufactures with, LiDAR, extra cameras, Geo fenced routes, and all that kind of stuff, which adds an additional amount of expense to the vehicle’s cost, so when Tesla make this work, just think of the advantage that they will have, because no one wants to buy a car that looks like some kind of weird looking Frankenstein monster.
So it just doesn’t look like something that I would wanna buy, and so let them do their thing and Tesla will certainly continue to pursue their version of FSD beta to perfection, because they understand just how valuable this technology truly is, and I think the other guys know it too.
So when I think about the fact that the AI is thinking and figuring things out, that’s what AI is about, and so I think too many people don’t truly appreciate just how incredible this stuff is.
So I don’t have the update yet, and can’t wait to get it, but I can say this though, it would not surprise me that by the end of this year, FSD beta will be fully capable of driving itself. Cheers 🥂
You are great, and Carol is an awesome wife and partner in crime in these amazing videos. You are helping all of us really feel the evolution of FSD, and I'm sure Tesla is watching since you are doing things that are way outside the norm, but crucial to the allowing the Beta to become more reliable for the real world. Many thanks.
It’s not even my car and my butthole clenches when your car gets close. Love these torture tests.
Seeing the new visualizations for gates auto opening and closing made me realize the car really can detect objects in the way and the road, but still has difficulty making a decision on how to behave
This is the reason why Tesla is pushing for the decision and planning system to also use neural networks in their core instead of only partially. Because as much as we think the road is logical, it is anything but that. You can't simulate a driver with if-else statements. You can make a lane following algorithm with it, you can make an auto park with it, and you can make emergency breaking assists with it. But you cannot make a unconstrained level 3-5 system with simple statements.
With a neural network you can train it to account for nuance and probable outcomes (as opposed to definitive ones) but if item detection already needed and extensive dataset, actually making a planning AI for the entirety of the road's situations will require a level of data never before seen.
Amazing work as always!! Can't wait to watch V11 evolve!! 🤯
Can't wait for 3rd test when FSD 12 comes out
OMG he owns an ICE truck! 😲 How impure. 😄
Nice tests that almost no one else is doing for YT.
I'm upset you'd risk a Model S like this, I mean wives are replaceable but...
Awesome video. Thanks AIDRVR and Carol for all of your hard work. We truly appreciate the great content. We all learn from your tests and get entertained at the same time. :)
Still the best FSD Beta youtuber!
Love the dramatic opening.
Great video! Thanks for continuing to provide high quality content.
I’m using 11 too. Yesterday, I noticed it recognised speed bumps with painted chevrons on the 25 mph street. It didn’t slow quite as much as I would have but it dropped 10-12 mph - reasonably comfortable. I don’t know if it recognises unmarked speed bumps…
Thank you for the video and the time and effort you give!
CZcams shows me, it seems to think 17 mph is right for speed humps that it recognises.
"not too much love" killed me hahahah. Sending you just the right amount of love Carol. ✌
Your videos are light years ahead of everyone else. I’m watching the future unfold before my very eyes. I will now be waiting for the next one…
I've been watching al your videos since my last comment like 10 videos ago, and im glad that you have managed to deal with your stress. al videos are top notch and are so enjoying to watch!! 😊
Great video! Thank you to Carol for making the challenges possible.
This type of testing is where you see the real capabilities. Definite improvements. Love it, keep up the great work!
This was really great. When it comes to oncoming car turning into your lane, I wonder if turn signals (on the oncoming car) would have made a difference.
Peter Gazdik: That's an interesting question. Clearly, humans (decent drivers anyway) would try to gauge intent and whether the other driver is clueless or not. The Tesla is still pretty OBLIVIOUS even when it's of actual concern, like the other driver being over the center line. And it doesn't help if a bad driver has a turn signal on and runs into you.
@@rogergeyer9851 Yes, I've also seen this behavior in previous videos on regular streets. If a colliding vehicle was moving slowly enough, FSD seemed to have considered it a stationary object and completely ignored it.
IMO next visualization improvement could be an indicator of where or not FSD thinks a vehicle is moving.
I think it's just a combination of speed of motion depending on the object and being significantly in the way. Cars likely will stop if heading into your lane so they are more so ignored but a pedestrian would never be.
Props to you for going through such a hassle to test this for all of us
Thank you for doing these tests, I do not know of anyone else who does it and I think it is a fantastic way to get some insight into what's going on "under the hood". But like you, I have no idea what FSD is thinking in some of these situations.
Looking forward to the next ones!
Great testing. The Sissys complaining about the wife testing in the prior video didn't take into account your multi-factor safety features. You not only wore a full helmet, but you also took out life insurance on her.
Folding the mirrors squeeze through that truck was very smart and pretty cute.
You are the real star of this show! Extremely useful information that I am very grateful for. I am 75 and feel like eventually my wife and I will need all the driving help we can get, hence the Tesla MY purchase. I haven’t subscribed to FSD Beta yet, waiting for the V11 stack plus $200/month is a lot for us that needs to be justified by increased safety. My big question now is how well FSD with HW3 will perform at speed, say 35-70 mph.
You probably shouldn’t.
It is kind of more dangerous than driving yourself IF you aren’t paying attention. In your case, this can give you a false sens of confidence that is more dangerous.
You should pay as much attention with FSB than without it.
It’s far from perfect, and multiple models got recalled in the last couple of month.
It is not safer, for the moment it is more of a gadget.
Please drive safe! ❤
Scary stuff! Thanks to you and to Carol for another outstanding test of FSD Beta.
It's amazing to see so much progress over so little time.
Your videos never fail to amaze me, and this one was no exception! The production value and attention to detail were truly incredible, and it's clear that your content is always improving. I'm eagerly looking forward to the upcoming updates and can't wait to see what you have in store for us. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for the kind words Bernardo!
Your wife is incredible for literally putting her self in harms way for this test! ❤
Thank you Carol.
These are great, very thorough test cases that are incredibly insightful. Thank you.
Another awesome video and love to Carol(as much as you’ll allow it)😂
I actually thought that it was very impressive that beta caught the wheel in the road, particularly when it was in the shade through so much of the testing. It would have been easier to detect had it been in the sun, making a higher contrast image.
These are the best videos you make! Thank you!! Any chance you could try a baby stroller next time?
Don't compliment her too much bcz I'm watching you 😂😂😂
I think the Beta reacts to a vehicle crossing over the lines into your lane IF said vehicle also is on a collision course with the Beta vehicle. If it's just in your lane with room for you to pass and it's path is not heading to cross yours Beta will continue as normal.
By the way. Great vid and thanks for all the effort. Your vids are always fun!
Love it! I was waiting for this!
Not having any idea why it's making decisions it does is an inherent feature to how AI/neural networks currently work. Not even the people who develop them really have a good idea of why it makes certain decisions.
This is also why self-driving cars are still terrifying, even though on average they're extremely safe
People generally don't have a good idea of why they made certain decisions.
Does that mean that humans driving are terrifying for this reason?
Benjamin: Yes. It's like we're literally growing "alien intelligence" when advanced AI work results in things like Alpha-Go or Alpha-Star, etc.
This is a significant issue even for games of skill. Imagining it for something as complex and serious as a general driving solution is just mind boggling.
@@w0ttheh3ll: But we do have a good general concept for the way human minds work, and we're adding to that all the time. We might have no real idea AT ALL of the way AI works, given lots of parameters. It's something VERY different, IMO.
@@w0ttheh3ll I don't think so, because I think the premise flawed. People might not understand why they make certain decisions in life, but the basic goals of driving are usually pretty straightforward: Arrive at your destination, and do so safely and on time. The rules of the road are vastly simpler than the rules of life.
Additionally, I think you're conflating the meta-knowledge I'm referring to. Generally, we can assume that any drivers that see a pedestrian on a road will come to the determination that they are in fact a pedestrian. Since we don't understand how an AI system "thinks", we have no way to intuit how likely that system is to identify that same pedestrian correctly.
Humans typically have a huge portion of their cognitive abilities dedicated to understanding and predicting the behaviors of their fellow humans. We have built that up over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. We have no corresponding facilities for understand an AI's behavior, and what's more, we will be very unlikely to develop such abilities as long as AI remains an inscrutable black box.
All that being said, please note that I deliberately talked about whether human drivers who *see* a pedestrian come to determine that it's a human; an AI system is much more likely to perceive a pedestrian than a human driver, which is certainly a massive point in its favor.
On the other hand, if the AI system makes an incorrect decision about how to react to the pedestrian, it may well decide to speed up, for some unknowable reason due to its AI. It's incredibly unlikely that a human driver would react in the same way; the risks with a human driver almost exclusively lie with the lack of perception.
So, when I say it's terrifying, I suppose I'm saying that I'm scared about the changing risk structure of existing around multi-ton missiles that are controlled by robots, the decisions of which I have a reduced risk of predicting as I attempt to navigate myself around them.
With just a bit too much twinkle in my eye - Thanks Carol !
Love your channel. I hope you continue to challenge the beta.
Thanks Carol for showing up again, you are the love of my life 😛
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Great test Chris!👍👍🇸🇪
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The truck tests are interesting.
It would be really easy to train FSD just for a car turning into your lane , but what makes it hard is that in vast majority of cases cars don’t do that.
Driving is crazy, everyone is going 50MPH in opposite directions with like 1-2 feet space in-between. We all accept this and expect oncoming traffic to behave.
It’s not acceptable for a Tesla to suddenly slam its breaks because an oncomer decide to swerve a little in their own lane.
So to a human this seems easy… but it’s actually extremely difficult. You have to have essentially 0 false positives, and 0 false negatives. (where a positive is where it thinks there’s a car coming into your lane, a false positive is where it thinks a car is coming into your lane but it actually isn’t) Right now it is virtually 0 false positives and a few false negatives.
Since normal case is that a car doesn’t suddenly turn into your lane, it makes sense Tesla is approaching getting the 0:0 false ratio from the direction of 0 false positives.
Thank You, Carol!!!
Awesome work! I can't believe how advanced this is! Absolutely incredible. Great testing!
The daylight running lights on the S are so fucking sexy. Like literally.
I find the turn in test fascinating because in my experience with the beta, anytime another car even hints at entering the road, or hell is even just sitting in the media pointing at the road, FSD Beta for me loves to slam on the brakes.
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HOLY CRAP that first test with the truck made me yell out loud.I was terrified how close your car was. I do not have the cohones for that, more power to you!
Giving some love for Carol, but not too much. :D
IMO, if you're going to have someone roll/push an obstacle onto the road, they need to be HIDING behind something because with FSD detecting the person, it's going to default to the best way to avoid hitting the human.
I love these obstacle tests, and damn do i respect you for putting *both* your cars at risk for them. Thanks AIDriver, and (respectfully) thanks Carol!😉
Carol knows what we want. 👍👍👍 Carol! And you, for your courage!
I don't understand people who say "FSD will be sooo safe". I have avoided a couple of times really tiny* objects on the road, that were maybe only 2 inches high but very dangerous like metal rods or sheet metal parts or nails on parking lots. Avoiding quite small but extremly deep pot holes also prevented a lot of damage to my undercarriage. And if not dangerous I go around even very small animals like toads, squirrels or small cats. Who am I that I could decide that small animals are worth nothing? I safed my life also once by avoiding a very, very unexpected object falling from very high in front of me, I could because I saw it starting to roll. That all needs understanding the whole situations and what these objects really are and what they will do seconds later. FSD will never calculate how a small animal typically will behave or if construction objects can start rolling or not, FSD will not be able to distiguishe between the behaviour of a tractor or digger etc. etc.
an example: the second biker predicts something, FSD would not be able to predict it because it has no clue what a straw bale is. This situation at high speed and a much bigger trailer happened to me on a country road and the bale came from very high where FSD anyway ignores all objects (except traffic lights). czcams.com/video/eB3rrvfvf2w/video.html
I like how it did in the first oncoming test, her car never crossed into your lane, so it makes sense why it didn’t slow, only steer away
I enjoy your tests, cheers from Germany.
that starlink box has seen things
I love the progressively more beat-up Starlink box.
You and Carol are amazing for doing these tests. It's so cool to see how FSD reacts and I was pleasantly surprised how it did. I almost wonder if the other vehicle needs to be perpendicular (or nearly) to be considered. You'd expect how much they're in your lane to matter. Hopefully with the next major version.
Thanks so much for doing these tests!
New sub! Love your videos man, especially ones like these!!
Superb video AGAIN! Loving your pushing! 😊
Great work! Very interesting test results! On the truck turning towards your lane test, actually I'm kind of okay with that change. I actually think in my experience the current v10 build freaks out and slows down *too* easily IMO. Like if someone is coming up to turn out of a parking lot or driveway, the car will slow down quite a bit when it really shouldn't. The default assumption appears to be (and should be) that even if it's moving towards your lane in that moment, they're not just going to go straight into your lane like a crazy person. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I think waiting until it actually enters your path is appropriate and more natural IMO.
Andrew: Yes. It's difficult. If it is too cautious, then you get a bad passenger experience. I suspect the "lots of data" and TIME is going to really matter for things like this. (Or I hope so, because having to hard code solutions is somewhere between bad and risky).
Maybe the full blown occupancy network, coupled with training and Dojo can really make a difference for issues like this.
Unfortuntely in my experience v11 is just like v10 in this respect. I don't know why it acted like this in the video but in actual driving for me it still freaks out and damn near slams the b rakes whenever a car even thinks about entering my lane.
Can you test branches similar to fallen trees? It would be interesting to see how well the occupancy network performed in that scenario
Literal branch prediction.
@@bradstewart7007 😂
Jonathan Mui: Yes, because with Chuck Cook in recent months on the no-lines road he tests on, it repeatedly ignores branches in the road (even significant ones) that are hanging from trees. Lots and lots of cases to work on.
"Better not be too much love, I'm watching you" 😂😂😂
FSD needs to binge watch dash cam vids -
Excellent stress test and good editing. Kudos to the wife. I appreciate you weren't kicking the can down the road!
Loved the stress tests
Thank you very much! Truly appreciated :]
Fantastic video and keep them coming. Really appreciate your narration and use cases showcased during your videos too. Very informative. + It’s time to take wide out to a nice dinner for her support. 😊💪☕️🤠🚀🚀
*wife, or Carol, but not "wide." Oof.
6:03 The woman with wheel = a motorbike!
Great work! Thanks as always 👍
You did good, but Carol did better! ❤
production value continues to impress
Nice work Carol!
Thanks, Carol! I’m glad you could help to make this video possible!
Strong Work, Carol!!
Giving not too much love to Carol for making this video possible.
woah, insane tests, great job, please stay safe!!!
Fun to watch! Thanks :)
9:18 Guzzler didn’t want to enter a road, as it‘s correctly interpreted by the path planner, so no intention to stop or going slower. The guzzler is „just“ standing in the road. So, if this would be an official entrance of road, then it would slow down, I guess.
Love these so much. If you can think of some crazy obstacles for a double trouble video I’ll drive out to ya 😎
Thanks guys brilliant as usual
Thanks Carol!
Great job! Important improvements! Invisible stick works great-I always wondered how you did it!
Awesome video. Thanks!
Wow, shout out to the pretty scary risks you took in this video. Very entertaining and interesting :)
Very interesting!
Your wife is a saint and a good sport 😂
Carol, you are a trooper!
Thank you Carol