The Boeing 787: Broken Dreams l Al Jazeera Investigations

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2014
  • This is a major project by the Al Jazeera Investigative Unit focusing on the 787 “Dreamliner”, the flagship passenger jet of the Boeing Company.
    Our journalism reveals the deeply-held safety concerns of current and former Boeing engineers, who in some cases fear to fly on the 787, the plane they build.
    We uncover allegations of on-the-job drug use, quality control problems and poor workmanship.
    We explore the roots of the battery problems that led to the plane’s grounding due to safety concerns for three months from January 2013.
    For more on the investigation, visit www.aljazeera.com/boeing787
    Senior Producer/Director: Marc Shaffer
    Producer/Director of Photography/Editor: Colin McIntyre
    Producer: Kevin Hirten
    Reporter/Producer: Will Jordan
    Music Composer: Ryan Whittier
    Additional Music: Sean Hirten
    #AlJazeeraInvestigations #Boeing787 #BrokenDreams

Komentáře • 7K

  • @ricardosoca7380
    @ricardosoca7380 Před 2 měsíci +334

    Congratulations Al Jazeera... you were 9 years ahead of your time with this report!

    • @YazYYY19
      @YazYYY19 Před měsícem +6

      100%
      Aljazeera never gets old!

    • @Jeff-sp7bg
      @Jeff-sp7bg Před měsícem +10

      Not one 787 has even crashed in over a decade of use. Zero fatalities. Millions of flights. The 787 is One if the safest planes ever to fly. Broken dreams??? Ok lol

    • @gergister
      @gergister Před měsícem +9

      @@Jeff-sp7bg well 1 bird doesn't make spring. If quality is neglected for 737s , what is the guarantee that this doesn't happened for other types. Besides the whistle-blowers said it is Boeing issue, not a particular type of plane issue. I'd rather not gamble with mine or my family life. So yeah.. I will not board death coffins. You go ahead and be my guest.

    • @Jeff-sp7bg
      @Jeff-sp7bg Před měsícem +1

      @gergister nothing in life is guaranteed. If you want guaranteed safety then live in a plastic bubble with reinforced concrete. Your lifetime chance of dying in a vehicle accident is 1 in 200 on an Airliner it's 1 in 6 million. Heck with the 737 max debacle there have been zero fatalities in over 60 million total flights worldwide and over 5 years so if that's the worst plane out there then that just shows how safe flying is. I prefer to go out there and live life at the end of the day life is dangerous Noone survives in the end 100% of everybody dies....

    • @glorytothemechanicus2796
      @glorytothemechanicus2796 Před měsícem +2

      Makes you wonder why western media is trying to paint Al Jazeera as an unreliable propaganda News.

  • @yengsabio5315
    @yengsabio5315 Před 3 měsíci +380

    It's 2024, & this documentary never gets old!

    • @OrcaBoat3
      @OrcaBoat3 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Agreed!

    • @annanishida8659
      @annanishida8659 Před měsícem +6

      Lithium is a killer!

    • @Pronouns1737
      @Pronouns1737 Před měsícem +10

      Then they off'd that whistleblower

    • @masudsaleh5155
      @masudsaleh5155 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@annanishida8659Dream-shattered 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

    • @MrSaywutnow
      @MrSaywutnow Před 16 dny

      After reading more into the state of Boeing, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I'll be very surprised if they're still in business ten years from now.
      Jim McNerney's incompetence utterly destroyed the company.

  • @tehx1234
    @tehx1234 Před 4 měsíci +384

    Here we are 10 years later, two 737 MAX 8 aircraft have crashed a 737 MAX 9 has just lost a plug door mid air and manufacturing issues still continue to plague new aircraft deliveries.

    • @JoeKubinec
      @JoeKubinec Před 3 měsíci +16

      It's just disgusting. There is no hope.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@JoeKubinec then they will fail

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 Před 3 měsíci +7

      you’re commenting on the incorrect frame type.
      The title is about the “787”.
      Just trying to help you understand Sir.

    • @shadowfaxcrx5141
      @shadowfaxcrx5141 Před 3 měsíci +41

      @@kamakaziozzie3038 He's commenting on Boeing quality problems, which span across every airplane they currently make including the 737 line.

    • @markr.1984
      @markr.1984 Před 3 měsíci +3

      This was about the 787, not about 737. They fixed the Dreamliner faults a long time ago.

  • @paulferrari3921
    @paulferrari3921 Před 3 měsíci +237

    This aged like fine wine.

    • @KY-te4mn
      @KY-te4mn Před 2 měsíci

      Yes indeed. It’s damning evidence of how our media is captured by money / lobbying/kickbacks and massive ad buying to keep them shut

    • @planetcaravan2925
      @planetcaravan2925 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Fine milk

    • @masudsaleh5155
      @masudsaleh5155 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@planetcaravan2925 lol 😆 milk 🥛 ages badly

    • @markmoses7300
      @markmoses7300 Před měsícem

      Bull, age like milk

  • @enesys
    @enesys Před 2 měsíci +144

    This is one of the most important documentaries of all time.

    • @RicardoMartinez-oh9sq
      @RicardoMartinez-oh9sq Před měsícem

      It is true journalism. Like a congresswoman said concerning another issue, the mainstream media are but stenographers.

    • @imagereader_9
      @imagereader_9 Před měsícem +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Really? Are you serious! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

    • @CaptainRon1913
      @CaptainRon1913 Před měsícem

      @@imagereader_9 He doesn't know if he's serious.. typical reddit hivemind

  • @boeingdriver29
    @boeingdriver29 Před 4 lety +992

    I'm retired now, with 27,000 hours on multiple Boeing types and it disgusts me what this once brilliant company has become.

    • @wonderfulwenna2710
      @wonderfulwenna2710 Před 3 lety +65

      boeingdriver29 one of the effects of massive greed.

    • @boeingdriver29
      @boeingdriver29 Před 3 lety +21

      Freddie Fudpukker totally agree.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver Před 3 lety +58

      After all that has happened, all I can feel is sadness, bitterness, and rage. Boeing was once a company of class and integrity. But when they merged with McDonnell Douglas, it became all about "cost saving" and "the bottom line." But once 'the bottom line' was safety, then it suddenly became corporate profit at any cost. And what a cost they will pay...

    • @tenkloosterherman
      @tenkloosterherman Před 3 lety +32

      @@tiffsaver The funny thing is, McDD built excellent planes, like the DC-9 (later MD-80 series), the C-17 Globemaster III (originally Douglas), The F-4 Phantom II (McDonnell), the F-15 Eagle (McDonnell). Not exactly a rubbish history.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver Před 3 lety +48

      @@tenkloosterherman
      If you want to dig into history, Boeing had an excellent quality and safety record, too. It was when they MERGED that things suddenly went downhill... fast.

  • @thedefectivememe
    @thedefectivememe Před 2 měsíci +97

    Seeing what happened to John woods, and the recent “suicide” of the one whistleblower (John Barnett) is insane

    • @BrianHein-vx1ye
      @BrianHein-vx1ye Před měsícem +1

      Government government government its going to stop but when

    • @MsJenniferinNYC
      @MsJenniferinNYC Před měsícem

      The 30-year veteran of Boeing is John Barnett. He was still in the midst of testifying and his civil suit against Boeing was nearing a settlement and then the next day we hear he dies? Very much sounds like foul play. His brother said he suffered from PTSD and was working in a hostile environment and thinks that caused his suicide. Then his colleague by the name of Jennifer said that he himself said if anyone says my death was by suicide is lying. Who do you believe?

    • @douglanders5558
      @douglanders5558 Před měsícem

      John Barnett was his name

    • @douglanders5558
      @douglanders5558 Před měsícem +1

      the Whistleblower, that is, who was just so happened to have a very timely death. RIP for the dedication to true engineering ethics and integrity.

    • @thedefectivememe
      @thedefectivememe Před měsícem +1

      @@douglanders5558 real, he’s actually doing his job as an engineer, in my College major I’m forced to take a class on engineering ethics before graduation

  • @murn20091
    @murn20091 Před 3 měsíci +122

    I am a retired aerospace worker at a MRO company in CANADA. I found this video very enlightening. When the FAA handed over certification responsibility over to BOEING, the bells went off in my head. It was not long before The Department of Transport here in CANADA followed. I for the life of me could not believe such power to the fox to guard the hen house. Makes no sense morally or professionally.
    Good story

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Před 3 měsíci +1

      We’re always copying Americans stupidity, out of laziness.

    • @claykemper7193
      @claykemper7193 Před 3 měsíci +2

      What were the lawsuit payoff amounts from the two fatal crashes?

    • @raaspider
      @raaspider Před měsícem

      Why does Canada always copy what the USA does even if it's wrong?

    • @schweizer1940
      @schweizer1940 Před měsícem +2

      Demonstrates how our country🎉 doesn't give one whit about us tax payers we are all expendable to ensure corporate greed!!

    • @schweizer1940
      @schweizer1940 Před měsícem

      ​@@claykemper7193zip, but the government fined itself 2 billion dollars to make us serfs feel better!!

  • @agni2003
    @agni2003 Před 4 lety +180

    four years later and the massive 737 Max and this documentary gains a whole new meaning

    • @oliviernyssen8041
      @oliviernyssen8041 Před 3 měsíci +21

      Tell me about.. today 2024!

    • @jpazinho
      @jpazinho Před 3 měsíci +11

      ​@@oliviernyssen8041the concerning aspect is that going back 10 years...the 787 dreamliner, the 737max, the 777x family...all great examples of what not to do...

  • @coryanntopanga
    @coryanntopanga Před 3 lety +419

    My heart simply crumbled for John Woods at how he was essentially punished for trying to do the right thing. The sadness was palpable as he described the struggle to survive after unjustly being terminated. Corporate thugs is an understatement. Psychopathic carcinogen is more like it.

    • @marimatsumoto372
      @marimatsumoto372 Před 2 lety +41

      Sadness in his eyes tells us all. While the CEO makes $25 million a year, his pension is $250,000. I wish somebody can arrange for these two to meet. How this ceo sleep at night !

    • @haoadams
      @haoadams Před 2 lety +1

      American workers have zero rights in Corp America. They have more lawyers.

    • @haoadams
      @haoadams Před 2 lety +28

      Allegedly, Liability and you will get fired for telling the truth. Honesty has zero place in Corp. America.

    • @mariadelavega546
      @mariadelavega546 Před 2 lety +1

      This is why America cannot become great again. It's corrupt at its core values. Lawyers are the true power joint ventured with politicians in power.

    • @trukeesey8715
      @trukeesey8715 Před rokem +1

      All corporations and all entities that work underneath the "skyscraper people" are the cancer cells. The skyscraper cities and corporations are the tumors.

  • @jefftube58
    @jefftube58 Před rokem +64

    As a retired quality control guy, I think that having so many different contractors making parts for the 787 is a huge part of the problem. From a quality standpoint it is much harder to moitor quality when the jobs are farmed out all over the place. Boeing made a big error in allowing this multi-worldwide site manufacturing of airplane parts plan. But Boeing itself has clearly compromised its quality process, thus endangering lives in the process.

    • @mamawjoni
      @mamawjoni Před 4 měsíci +1

      You said it well and so true

    • @daynaanderson2630
      @daynaanderson2630 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Boeing needs to bring all manufacturing, production, quality control back home to WA. Go back to where positive outcome was a consistent product.

    • @mudooladaniel1303
      @mudooladaniel1303 Před měsícem +2

      Boeing need to listen to this documentary

    • @luv2travel2000
      @luv2travel2000 Před 28 dny

      ​@@mudooladaniel1303Yes. 😁

    • @AshleySpeaks4U
      @AshleySpeaks4U Před 13 dny

      I dated a fellow who worked for TWO companies making Boeing parts, so you are correct. The parts are made all over. They TRIED setting up shop in Mexico and the fuselage came back WIRED WRONG. They learned their lesson.

  • @reeeec
    @reeeec Před 2 měsíci +200

    Back here again due to a Boeing whistleblower that recently died due to a "self-inflicted" wound.

    • @plastichouselady
      @plastichouselady Před 2 měsíci +5

      I wonder what the second part of his testimony would have been?

    • @reeeec
      @reeeec Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@plastichouselady could have been soo damning that -Boeing killed- he did it to himself.

    • @plastichouselady
      @plastichouselady Před 2 měsíci +2

      Frontline also has a documentary on Boeing. It's excellent. The question that remains for me is what are the airlines doing with the 737s they already have? I'm letting my local airline know that I never want to fly on a Boeing plane again.

    • @RicardoMartinez-oh9sq
      @RicardoMartinez-oh9sq Před měsícem +1

      I am joining the dots, Italy, Cosa Nostra: The Italian mafia is everywhere.

    • @roba7737
      @roba7737 Před měsícem +7

      Especially when he told his family He wasn't suicidal and if anything happens to him someone else did it.

  • @kokonana4086
    @kokonana4086 Před 4 lety +466

    'The engineers are afraid to fly the plane they've made', that tragically sums up it all.

    • @craigwall9536
      @craigwall9536 Před 4 lety +11

      That's not confined to Boeing. I worked with automotive engineers that wouldn't drive their cars on a trip over 100 miles. Engineers these days are chickenshit because they never built anything in their lives- they just sit at their desks and run applications. They actually have NO practical experience, and their cynicism is a lame attempt to appear wise. Trust me: they're only two doors down from imposters.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Před 4 lety +8

      @mtrujillo1973 passangers also fly (on board of ) the airplane.

    • @poccophoto
      @poccophoto Před 4 lety +9

      mtrujillo1973 - ur smart, “not”. Pilots have also come out to say that the plane is not safe and is built substandard. Google it.

    • @athleticguy15
      @athleticguy15 Před 4 lety +3

      In almost nine years of flying, not a single hull loss, and this plane has flown millions of miles.

    • @ChemiiOneLegacy
      @ChemiiOneLegacy Před 4 lety +6

      ​@@craigwall9536 People who design and the people who manufacture rely on each other - they are not the same thing champ.

  • @JW_934
    @JW_934 Před 3 měsíci +42

    Wow, I used to think it would be awesome to work for Boeing but not after this. As an engineer I’ll absolutely be avoiding them.

    • @phantagirlable
      @phantagirlable Před 2 měsíci +4

      Apply at Airbus, seems like they care about qualified employees.

  • @RickTheClipper
    @RickTheClipper Před 7 měsíci +57

    Fly Airbus, see the world
    Fly Boeing, see the next one

  • @OrcaBoat3
    @OrcaBoat3 Před 2 měsíci +64

    After the recent news about a 787 dropping significantly in the sky, this video is all the more relevant.

    • @Sanyu-Tumusiime
      @Sanyu-Tumusiime Před měsícem

      that was a pilot error . moved the chair back too fast and hit the lever.

    • @OrcaBoat3
      @OrcaBoat3 Před měsícem +2

      @@Sanyu-Tumusiime that's what they are telling us...

    • @Sanyu-Tumusiime
      @Sanyu-Tumusiime Před měsícem +1

      @@OrcaBoat3 That is not what they're telling us. It's not Boeing's fault that the 787 dropped 5000 feet in the sky.

    • @DABK2024
      @DABK2024 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@OrcaBoat3smooth brain

    • @OrcaBoat3
      @OrcaBoat3 Před měsícem

      @@DABK2024 agreed

  • @andrewallen9993
    @andrewallen9993 Před 5 lety +263

    Boeing engineer speak - we have placed the batteries in a fire containment vessel vented to atmosphere, in plain English - we have installed a fireplace for the batteries and built a chimney!

    • @edwardgeorge4881
      @edwardgeorge4881 Před 4 lety +1

      andrew allen, they call them enjuneers, and now they r won! 👺

    • @fancypelusa2863
      @fancypelusa2863 Před 4 lety +8

      You nailed it!

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 Před 4 lety +4

      You are correct and the little black panel with the lighted button that says Circuit Breaker is just there to make ya feel better...

    • @robinirwin9602
      @robinirwin9602 Před 4 lety +1

      @Roman Lightman ¹

    • @duncangodfrey1448
      @duncangodfrey1448 Před 4 lety +6

      😂 🤣 🤣 OK that was funny 😂 "fireplace for the batteries and built a chimney" 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 brilliant 😂

  • @flashnfantasy
    @flashnfantasy Před 4 lety +638

    Watching this, knowing this was recorded long before the 737 Max, give me chills.
    You can really say, we all have seen this coming, this is murder by forging safety standards.

    • @ofentsenoah3644
      @ofentsenoah3644 Před 2 lety +18

      Funny thing is I watched this more than 5 years ago, I was skeptical. When the 737 MAX issues happened, I then thought back to this doccie.

    • @seankenny2153
      @seankenny2153 Před rokem +10

      Couldn't agree more, this 787 story was essentially the canary in the coal mine and too few saw it drop from the perch!

    • @tannenbaumgirl3100
      @tannenbaumgirl3100 Před rokem

      You can stop pretending Airbus didn't have problems....there were serious issues with Airbus too, even crashes, but I don't see you reporting it! This is just another hit job attempt by Aljazeera and Europeans. Disgruntled employees selectively picked to support your predetermined goals, which is to falsely report to create a hitjob!

    • @tannenbaumgirl3100
      @tannenbaumgirl3100 Před rokem +9

      Why don't you investigate or inform yourself about all the serious issues Airbus had....this is just another hit job by Aljazeera. Boeing isn't allowed to solve their issues but Airbus is.....double standard. What about the company who built the batteries, safety and workmanship issues, and compromised.

    • @tannenbaumgirl3100
      @tannenbaumgirl3100 Před rokem

      Washington has more drugies than anywhere else....ever been there, I have! That's probably one of the reasons the company moved. Every ISO certified company has employees who write instructions about production processes. Sooner or later any manufactured product will fail. Blame Obama and Hillary.....clueless stooges.

  • @robertsimoneau5232
    @robertsimoneau5232 Před rokem +30

    The current CEO is an accountant, enough said. American Airline is temporarily cancelling flights from Philidelphia to Madrid due to Boeing's inability to supply 787's in a timely manner, which is currently experiencing fuselage issues.

  • @user-fd6rr4iz9m
    @user-fd6rr4iz9m Před 2 měsíci +69

    I was a Boeing Quality Assurance inspector and I could see this profit before quality attitude, initially they had separate managers one for production and one for quality.
    Then around 2000 they decided to remove the quality manager and put the whole responsibility on the production manager and told him to wear different hats for different decision's.
    Problem is when your job is on the line when something is late, what hat will he put on?

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge Před měsícem +2

      I remember someone from United saying "The Boeing aircraft made after 2000 had more technical difficulties than those made before 2000 or any Airbus aircraft"

    • @prasenjittripura4691
      @prasenjittripura4691 Před 25 dny

      trolls spotted🤡🤡😊

    • @kPk_editZ
      @kPk_editZ Před 24 dny

      ​@@prasenjittripura4691 ??

    • @AshleySpeaks4U
      @AshleySpeaks4U Před 13 dny +1

      That was a new "business model" that started in the mid 90's called "getting rid of the middle man" by having each employee work the load of two after performing massive layoffs. They kept routine layoffs the whole time I was living in Everett-where their building is. My mom worked for the city in Surface Water Management and they kept fining Boeing for illegal dumping. They destroyed an entire salmon spawning stream, and each stream is it's own species, so Boeing made an entire run of salmon go EXTINCT.

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge Před 13 dny

      @@AshleySpeaks4U Absolutely disgusting

  • @av8tor261
    @av8tor261 Před 3 lety +302

    I used to say. "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going." Now I say, "In Airbus I trust."

    • @gringuitou22
      @gringuitou22 Před 3 lety +8

      Trust none!

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 Před 3 lety +25

      For me: It's a Boeing? I ain't going!

    • @theamazoner4075
      @theamazoner4075 Před 3 lety +12

      Or even “if it’s boeing I’m not going”

    • @G-546
      @G-546 Před 3 lety +18

      I’m not flying the 777x for 4 years. The 737max for 2. These planes are not safe. It takes airbus 3 years to develop a a321neo with an extra fuel tank. It somehow take boeing 4 years to build an all new plane. Lockheed Martin was the only good plane manufacturer in US history, but they sadly no longer make passenger planes. I am happy delta chose airbus.

    • @Anonymous-tu4pl
      @Anonymous-tu4pl Před 3 lety +17

      @@G-546 I only trust older 777 from boeing. Thats it. I would fly an airbus

  • @gullettr1
    @gullettr1 Před 5 lety +346

    I worked for boeing for 30 years. Everybody should take this video to heart. They changed immediately after the merger.

    • @AA123TD
      @AA123TD Před 5 lety +32

      so did walgreens. it is the same story over and over in corporate America.
      We need a change. We need the government to work for the people not companies bottom lines and the stock market.

    • @alejandroulloa3092
      @alejandroulloa3092 Před 5 lety

      well you suck to

    • @ida1620
      @ida1620 Před 4 lety +13

      gladto begone its like they became dc .. theres a reason dc10 and the mcd douglas planes have a bad rep.. they are doing it again!!

    • @GieCampbel-ug9jl
      @GieCampbel-ug9jl Před 4 lety +13

      They are all merging for a reason. To control us.

    • @Kupp_Kakez3
      @Kupp_Kakez3 Před 4 lety +14

      This bothers me. Knowing who the merge with & they terrible planes they made, no wonder their planes aren’t good. I see why people fly on Airbus now. Which after watching this, I think I’m flying air bus from now on.

  • @mr.flupsurf2860
    @mr.flupsurf2860 Před 2 měsíci +51

    rip john barnett

  • @gurmon
    @gurmon Před měsícem +14

    Al Jazeera again proving to be a good source of journalism

  • @johannmckraken9399
    @johannmckraken9399 Před 4 lety +538

    The old saying "If it's not Boeing I'm not going." has become "If it’s a Boeing I'm not going."

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 Před 4 lety +14

      Trump is pulling his hair out with the corruption in the White House. He should working a week or two at Boeing... I can't wait 4 a competitor to come along and wipe Boeing off the maps... They used to be a good company until the Indians and Chinese got on board with em and showed em how to rip off the entire rest of the world....

    • @timdodd3897
      @timdodd3897 Před 4 lety +12

      How sad. Corporate greed.

    • @Trip4Two
      @Trip4Two Před 4 lety +16

      @@thekingsilverado9004 Not Russians ? haha , Yanks always blame someone else . Boeing was a yankee company last time I checked.

    • @tryomama
      @tryomama Před 4 lety +11

      @@thekingsilverado9004 lol. You guys always put the blame on someone else. First the innocent pilots who don't know anything about the MCAS and now you blamed the Indians and Chinese? You guys are just dumb.

    • @SacrificeBreedsSuccess
      @SacrificeBreedsSuccess Před 4 lety +6

      @@thekingsilverado9004 He wears a hairpiece, so he has no hair. And Chevy is owned by GM (government motors).

  • @aeo719
    @aeo719 Před 4 lety +1159

    who is watching this in 2019 after the 737 max scandal?

    • @carolmorris404
      @carolmorris404 Před 4 lety +28

      I am.

    • @663rainmaker
      @663rainmaker Před 4 lety +8

      Carol Morris could it be all rigged up?? Due to a?? Following the other’s... airbus? Sold out to the corporate office pays to Play...
      I got to meet Boeing first test pilot H.C. Kit Carson... globalization efforts makes problems with aviation?
      Who made the battery packs? For the Dreamliner? Grounded from? Now 737 max issues??? Problem with?? Politicians or maybe elsewhere? Yes indeed outside interference from a ??? Competitors insight$? Pays to Play in Career Politics ask those senators in Washington $tate. GlowBall efforts to do in Boeing’s status??
      My brother from the 82nd airborne.. I was next door at US Pope AFB.... Honorable and Truth always
      No taqqyia

    • @mv6677
      @mv6677 Před 4 lety +79

      Paul Ayers you made no sense whatsoever in your comment

    • @dayspoiler4608
      @dayspoiler4608 Před 4 lety +5

      following the "how it happened" trail before they file for bankrupsy

    • @jude666.
      @jude666. Před 4 lety +9

      @@663rainmaker its not the aircraft that are the problem , its the developing third world countries pilots that have caused the problem.

  • @237novski
    @237novski Před 2 měsíci +109

    Who's watching this after the tire scandal?

    • @domestosteron5298
      @domestosteron5298 Před měsícem +4

      You mean the whistleblower scandal?

    • @luckyguy600
      @luckyguy600 Před měsícem +1

      Which one?
      There have been a few over the past 50 or so years.
      Kleber Tires out of Europe comes to mind. With complete tread separation being a rather critical issue.
      And then Goodyear having a few too.
      Over the years that is.
      I was 'line maintenance' in YYZ for over 30 + years. Changed a few tires in my life. Every day almost.

    • @domestosteron5298
      @domestosteron5298 Před měsícem +4

      @@luckyguy600 I'm talking about the guy who was found deadright before testifying to congress a few days ago.

    • @masudsaleh5155
      @masudsaleh5155 Před měsícem

      Dream-shattered 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 ​@@domestosteron5298

    • @danieladaniela3739
      @danieladaniela3739 Před měsícem

      That is so worrisome. They already have blood on their hands but apparently that's not enough.

  • @knch
    @knch Před 2 měsíci +29

    Today watched again after 9 years of gap

  • @yudhistiramaulanaadji7923
    @yudhistiramaulanaadji7923 Před 3 lety +109

    "It shouldn't be this hard to do the right thing" 🥺

    • @marimatsumoto372
      @marimatsumoto372 Před 2 lety +2

      It broke my heart to hear him say that.

    • @davefuller7334
      @davefuller7334 Před rokem +1

      787 Horrible when full not many toilets kitchen facilities not good 747 /777 A350/ A380 best

    • @DuffyGabi
      @DuffyGabi Před 2 měsíci

      Try running a business (referencing the trades) competing against illegal labor. You will become disheartened quickly and then think of how to screw the government that clearly does not value honest business owners.

  • @JDS11ify
    @JDS11ify Před 5 lety +294

    My father worked for Canadian General Electric in Manufacturing and Engineering. I recall him coming home in the 60s and lamenting the quality control was going out the door because the "accountants were running the show". This BS has been going on for years.

    • @franklee9115
      @franklee9115 Před 5 lety +24

      The CEO and accountants should sit in the test flights.

    • @jefftube58
      @jefftube58 Před 5 lety +2

      I did quality control for a few years, and fortunately, except for one boss who shouldn't have been a boss, I learned some valuable skills.

    • @clemalford9768
      @clemalford9768 Před 5 lety +3

      Steve Hoyland, I stopped flying!!!

    • @power-on6596
      @power-on6596 Před 5 lety +1

      @@clemalford9768 I took the Queen May 2 on my last crossing, and it was a good deal too.

    • @ChiDraconis
      @ChiDraconis Před 5 lety

      @@clemalford9768 Fortunately I ceased active pilot training and upon discussing this with FBO I am told I can hire Commercial as PIC then just do pleasure flying ◘ airline remains safest over 100 mile base

  • @michaelmcgovern8110
    @michaelmcgovern8110 Před 10 měsíci +31

    I have bipolar disorder type 2, and spend 38 and a half years as a technical documentation and project leader specialist in high-tech. The man who admitted his disorders and got crushed is my hero. Always do the right thing.

  • @Stufftowatch21
    @Stufftowatch21 Před 2 měsíci +37

    I’m here after the death of John Barnett 🤨

  • @robertbarnier45
    @robertbarnier45 Před 4 lety +228

    Thanks Al Jazeera. We need as much investigating reporting of this quality as we can get

    • @marimatsumoto372
      @marimatsumoto372 Před 2 lety +7

      I also want to thank Al Jazeera. The worker’s comments in South Carolina are utterly shocking ! They have no ability, no pride.
      Very opposite attitude from people in Seattle.

    • @brendanroberts4866
      @brendanroberts4866 Před rokem +4

      Al jazeera should investigate male misogyny in islam and worker deaths in qatar. Why the delay?

    • @EricCalves
      @EricCalves Před 7 měsíci

      Al Jasera Spreading stupidity….!!!!

    • @GodlikeIridium
      @GodlikeIridium Před 2 měsíci

      It's a great investigation. But don't be naive, they only do it because it shows how bad and evil a US company managed by greedy evil people is.
      Always consider multiple sources from different sides to make up your oppinion and gain knowledge. The media these days isn't about information spreading anymore, it's almost exclusively used for political reasons and propaganda. Luckily there are more and more small independent journalists, but they can also be motivated by their ideology.

    • @masudsaleh5155
      @masudsaleh5155 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@brendanroberts4866Liberal modernists and feminists will feign outrage, but their moral system is what creates this situation.
      Liberal principles of individual choice, female empowerment, and destruction of patriarchy create a society of people who have no family to take care of them in their old age.
      The liberal feminist solution to this problem is to create more welfare programs. What this means is that they want the elderly to live alone in what are essentially pods, their only human interaction being with "care" takers to check if they're still alive once a week.
      Let me put it like this. The only human solution is for the elderly to be surrounded by loving family in their old age. The only way to get that is patriarchy, gender roles, and other limitations on individual freedom. But the liberal mind can not allow any of that. So the elderly will continue to suffer, and liberal feminists and modernists will continue to pretend like they care about humanity.

  • @wernerdanler2742
    @wernerdanler2742 Před 4 lety +15

    I worked for Boeing in Wichita in the 70's and was called on the carpet for making less parts than the 35 year veteran on 1st shift. They showed me his part bin and mine. I asked what all the white tags were on almost all his parts, but mine had none, and he, the plant manager, told me to go back to work and I never heard another word about it. Those white tags were failed inspection tags. Those parts were estimated to be worth $50k.
    I was proud to work there then because quality was their priority.
    Their planes were considered the safest in the air back then. Not so much now.

  • @MarkVickers-xq9si
    @MarkVickers-xq9si Před 2 měsíci +11

    From the U.S. : Thank you, Al Jezzira , for Excellent investigative reporting .

  • @fauxpinkytoo
    @fauxpinkytoo Před 2 lety +27

    It's not easy to do the right thing when the corporate establishment is based on greed. Mr. Woods, my heart goes out to you. You are a hero. We need more men like you in the world. Hold your head high.

    • @Skipbo000
      @Skipbo000 Před 4 měsíci

      our society is based on greed - our reason for being is based in greed. we wake up everyday to do what? make more money. remember Boeing and companies like them work at the behest of shareholders.

    • @MsJenniferinNYC
      @MsJenniferinNYC Před měsícem

      💯💯💯💯money always rules ethics and morals in corporate culture. PATHETIC!!

    • @philipambler3825
      @philipambler3825 Před měsícem

      The Cocaine Culture in American Management is near the Core of the problem.

  • @davidhessiii5775
    @davidhessiii5775 Před 3 lety +176

    I spent 3 years in that SC plant in the very beginning of the program. It was a Boeing partner, Global Aeronautica, then and I took my 30+ years of experience and left in 2010 when it became too much to try and overcome the incompetence that surrounded everything in that building. There are hundreds of "John Woods" in that place just too scared to speak up because it's David v Goliath all day everyday.

    • @av8tor261
      @av8tor261 Před 3 lety +10

      follow the money

    • @FreshlySnipes
      @FreshlySnipes Před 5 měsíci +6

      So scary. I hope we won’t be finding big issues in the next few years.
      My grandpa worked for Boeing for 30+ years. He would be rolling in his grave if he knew what Boeing had become.

    • @mamawjoni
      @mamawjoni Před 4 měsíci +3

      You are exactly right.

    • @uk7769
      @uk7769 Před 3 měsíci +4

      you have a duty as a citizen to speak up when safety health and welfare of the public depend on it.

    • @tomsmith6513
      @tomsmith6513 Před 3 měsíci

      Planes made by Boeing are like planes "Made in China." China, Boeing and McDonnell Douglas, they are getting closer every day.
      Accountants, business-people and other bean counters are made in China.

  • @nikkkis90
    @nikkkis90 Před 5 lety +111

    As a retired union worker of 20yrs and employed at the Everett Plant, this is heartbreaking to watch.

  • @thisismyspout
    @thisismyspout Před 2 měsíci +16

    "We havnt had time to craft a response"
    Wow.

  • @nixet
    @nixet Před 3 měsíci +8

    Watching this in 2024, after the tragedies of the 737 MAX crashes and the 737 door plug failure is just gut wrenching.

  • @joshuacaranci5967
    @joshuacaranci5967 Před 3 lety +214

    So in the last 7 years, boeing has had 2 series of planes get grounded, i think that says it all

    • @SethPowell7
      @SethPowell7 Před 3 lety +14

      Both of which were developed after the merger, after the corporate relocation, after the strike.

    • @peterjoseph9392
      @peterjoseph9392 Před 3 lety

      It maintains that is a great place 544⁴4

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 Před 3 lety +15

      Bad news: the 737 Max was re-approved. I guess they finally scraped together enough bribe money to make a government official sign the paperwork...

    • @tmt4931
      @tmt4931 Před 3 lety

      @@largol33t1: You really think so?! If you do then you’re one idiotic Airbus troll!!

    • @G-546
      @G-546 Před 3 lety +6

      If the same thing happens to the 777x I am done with new Boeing products.

  • @henryweaver667
    @henryweaver667 Před 4 lety +102

    That top manager you interviewed at Boeing when you showed him proof that quality control was over ruled by top management, he looked like a deer in headlights.

    • @bonusemilian6533
      @bonusemilian6533 Před 3 lety +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @av8tor261
      @av8tor261 Před 3 lety +5

      It was the first time the VIP heard of QA.

    • @jm361
      @jm361 Před 3 lety +3

      Boeing Charged with 737 Max Fraud Conspiracy and Agrees to Pay over $2.5 Billion says alot, all you have to do is google it and see the DOJ report!

  • @user-yi3yx2fn7g
    @user-yi3yx2fn7g Před měsícem +6

    This docu is even more damning now, nine years later....

  • @most-average-athelete
    @most-average-athelete Před měsícem +7

    How does this investigation from 9 years ago not have 1Billion views?

    • @masudsaleh5155
      @masudsaleh5155 Před měsícem

      They hate Aljazeera

    • @laughingoutloud5742
      @laughingoutloud5742 Před 22 dny +1

      Because most people don't want the truth. They believe it won't happen to them, and the topic is depressing.
      I was told that by a few people I brought this up to.
      What a wonderful world.

    • @AshleySpeaks4U
      @AshleySpeaks4U Před 13 dny

      Because Americans have been brainwashed not to trust any news source outside of the US, particularly mid-Eastern. AlJazeera is I THINK Pakistani.

  • @theobreakspear3068
    @theobreakspear3068 Před 3 lety +369

    This is Al Jazeera at it’s very best. Some of the most hardcore investigative journalism I’ve ever see or heard.

    • @brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115
      @brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 Před 3 lety +11

      somebody doesn't want to expose human trafficking and slave labour in the MiddleEast.....

    • @jimbosammy4255
      @jimbosammy4255 Před 3 lety +7

      @@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 And beheadings, stoning of women.......

    • @theallseeingeye9388
      @theallseeingeye9388 Před 3 lety +1

      The did a piece on Malaysia on the Covid lockdowns and foreign workers here recently.
      It could be classified as a total fabricated lie.
      Their journalist got booted out of the country.
      0 credibility.

    • @IshaqIbrahim3
      @IshaqIbrahim3 Před 3 lety +7

      @@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 I think whataboutism can sometimes be a good evidence. It is like saying Officer, I am not the only one speeding or the other cars are speeding, why did you pull only me? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

    • @IshaqIbrahim3
      @IshaqIbrahim3 Před 3 lety

      @@jimbosammy4255 I think whataboutism can sometimes be a good evidence. It is like saying Officer, I am not the only one speeding or the other cars are speeding, why did you pull only me? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

  • @TheYottaTube
    @TheYottaTube Před 5 lety +1463

    Maybe it's time to investigate the Boeing 737 Max

    • @supportmanualflying2224
      @supportmanualflying2224 Před 5 lety +53

      You mean the MD 737 MAX?

    • @david-lonewolf8924
      @david-lonewolf8924 Před 5 lety +114

      Manufactured by the same company, roots of the problems must be the same. If 787's got issues, the new 737 can't be the exception, the ethics of the 21st century large corporates has been compromised and corrupt. This is when disasters strike. Everywhere, even car industry, like the Volkswagen diesel scandal.

    • @artman7780
      @artman7780 Před 5 lety +52

      Who knows when in a few years, they might have to do an investigation on the Boeing 777X

    • @mohammeds5339
      @mohammeds5339 Před 5 lety +7

      Seconded

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 Před 5 lety +6

      Investigate India Incs for failure

  • @florianinside5666
    @florianinside5666 Před 4 měsíci +20

    737 Max 9 lost a Door at 10.000 Feet altitude... Wow. I'd take a seat in Airbus only

  • @sacsmitty
    @sacsmitty Před 3 měsíci +5

    Wow, this documentary ages really well today, doesn’t it? So basically in the last 20 years of Boeing production, safety has flown in economy while profit has flown first class. How sad. 😞

  • @FLT111
    @FLT111 Před 4 lety +506

    The merger between Boeing an McDonnell Douglas has destroyed Boeing's image... Massive respect to Airbus!

    • @alexburke1899
      @alexburke1899 Před 4 lety +29

      Yep MD management came in and slashed the research and development budget which was the major reason why Boeing was such a great company in the first place up until that point. It took a few years but those billions in R&D cuts caught up to them as the documentary shows. They also started outsourcing parts without a good QA supply line and the batteries are a good example of that.

    • @nor4277
      @nor4277 Před 4 lety +19

      I rather fly a air bus they seem to be doing it right.

    • @mrpaulgrimm6129
      @mrpaulgrimm6129 Před 4 lety +5

      PAN-PAN Air Bus has problems too

    • @kai-matthiasbast8612
      @kai-matthiasbast8612 Před 4 lety +17

      TLO wow youre a really rude person, to a small degree you do get to choose which aircraft type youre on, websites literally tell you when purchasing a ticket what aircraft you can expect to be on.. depending on which aircrafts fly the route you can always choose to fly another type of aircraft on a different date. its not much but there is a small amount of preference available.

    • @1954BadCompany
      @1954BadCompany Před 4 lety

      @@TLO129 "I could care less" doesn't mean what you think it means. You're spot on about the MCAS issue... when I first saw it I thought good lord, just cut off the stab trim switches. I learned that way back in 1977 in KC-135 training, and practiced it in E-3s after that.

  • @javierharth3647
    @javierharth3647 Před 5 lety +108

    As an electrical engineer I am appalled at the layout of that battery pack. All those wires connecting the individual cells can not be the best layout, but it certainly look the cheapest.
    Pretty dam near a "rats' nest" wiring job. A generous source of possibilities for disaster.
    As a marine electrician in San Diego, I remember having boats built in China totally stripped of their wire harnesses and refitted for safety purposes, in order to qualify for the insurance policy.
    We've come a long way baby!

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 Před rokem +5

      How can an airliner company fail to build a simple safe bus box? LiFePo isn't much worse on energy density, China was right to ban lithium ion metal in big batteries.

    • @charlesstahlheber5457
      @charlesstahlheber5457 Před rokem

      Union electrician for 33 years and
      Seen better wiring in a wall outlet
      Then that battery box..corporate greed , but worked on dream liner hangers.. Boeing is great company

  • @johnwarner839
    @johnwarner839 Před rokem +6

    This report gives a new viewpoint to the old adage that we used to voice for over a generation, while working in the industry:
    “IF IT AIN’T BOEING, I AIN’T GOING, which , after viewing this report, should change to: IF IT’S BOEING, I AIN’T GOIN’!

  • @RicardoMartinez-oh9sq
    @RicardoMartinez-oh9sq Před měsícem +3

    As a journalist abroad, I interviewed an electrician who spotted something extremely dangerous within a sunflower oil manufacturing plant where he worked: The plant could blow up with all houses around for half a mile or so. A major public safety concern. I published it. Next thing a lawyer from the plant came to see me asking me who the whistleblower was: I refused to tell. But they figured out that only an electrician could know and fired him. We live in a crazy world.

    • @philipambler3825
      @philipambler3825 Před měsícem +1

      Thanks Ricardo..a perfect example of what is wrong with Corporate Culture.The lawyers act as if they have no moral code/ethics base whatsoever.

  • @cobrar5161
    @cobrar5161 Před 5 lety +269

    4 years later now we have a new recurring"NIGHTMARE"

    • @rene78
      @rene78 Před 5 lety +7

      I'm afraid that Comac will crush Boeing in the long term. Give the Chinese another 10 years. Not so hard to compete against such a f..k-up of a company, anyway.

    • @bronwynhl
      @bronwynhl Před 5 lety +2

      @@rene78 honestly its like watching dc try and catch up with marvel. people dont seem to understand that you need to put in quality in order to make quality.

    • @wharris7594
      @wharris7594 Před 5 lety

      500 years later and people still hold on to the spinning globe earth when in reality we humans have always lived on a Stationary Flat Plane. Its 2019, awaken to the Truth, The Earth Is A Flat Circular Plane.

    • @wildone8397
      @wildone8397 Před 5 lety +11

      @@wharris7594 😆🤣 I wonder if you flat earthers actually believe that?! 🤔 If you do, *seek help!!!*

    • @c.a.greene8395
      @c.a.greene8395 Před 5 lety +8

      @@wildone8397 it takes all kinds of stupid to believe the flat earth theory

  • @markschnabel2890
    @markschnabel2890 Před 4 lety +293

    the one word that comes to mind in this entire segment....GREED, pure and simple...greed

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 Před 4 lety +2

      Boeing=Greed. I'll write that one down on the white board in the science lab tomm thanks..

    • @guyguz7
      @guyguz7 Před 4 lety +2

      Amazing that a company that has produced the best aircraft in the world can suddenly be demonized with a single complete hit piece, courtesy of : Union's at odds with Boeing over their other plant, AIRBUS { who knows?}, and Al Jazeera..............................

    • @markschnabel2890
      @markschnabel2890 Před 4 lety +14

      @@guyguz7 I would agree with you but as I watched this video I continually came back the 737 MAX. The issue with this video was well before any 737 MAX issues. Thus I must question the content of your comment.

    • @craigwall9536
      @craigwall9536 Před 4 lety

      Considering how much money they've lost, I suspect they are less dedicated to greed than they are to keeping the company going with the naive and ignorant workforce they are stuck with. The old guys who were on top of things are long gone. Nobody is indifferent to crashes- you really ought to walk back your simple-mined pronouncement. If you spout off with something like that in front of a Boeing employee you're liable to need facial reconstruction.

    • @markschnabel2890
      @markschnabel2890 Před 4 lety +5

      @@craigwall9536 coming from a Boeing employee, yourelf or relation to? Still gonna say its greed pure and simple....give me a detailed reason why it is not greed pure and simple

  • @gnored
    @gnored Před měsícem +4

    Al Jazeerah needs to update this video. Maybe mention doors falling off, tires falling off, pieces of the fusilage falling off and all the other problems with all new Boeing planes.

    • @checkoutmyyoutubepage
      @checkoutmyyoutubepage Před měsícem +1

      Some of those incidents is due to lack of maintenance, and that is a problem too.

    • @masudsaleh5155
      @masudsaleh5155 Před měsícem +1

      ​@chec😅😅😅koutmyyoutubepage

  • @tomarmstrong1281
    @tomarmstrong1281 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I note this program was made in 2014. Ten years ago. In the meantime, things have not been good and the problems are still ongoing. As a retired commercial pilot I consider that safety should never take second place to profit.

  • @zepedrofd
    @zepedrofd Před 5 lety +151

    For those doubting this video: this is really happening in every company. Greedy people are taking over. All they care about and understand are numbers. They are hiring people that don't understand what they are doing and closing their eyes on huge quality issues. I've seen first hand in some of the biggest companies that are supposedly famous for quality, like swiss watches.

    • @edithnavarrete4905
      @edithnavarrete4905 Před 2 lety +14

      And if you dare to speak up, you get fired...

    • @Ken-dx1ym
      @Ken-dx1ym Před 2 lety

      Very true! and none of them pay taxes. Earning billions of dollars and paying no or very little federal taxes is crazy. That tells me that our government officials are corrupt. This unfortunately wont stop until it all falls, then you will see all of these politicians heading to other countries.

    • @jamesdeclan7538
      @jamesdeclan7538 Před rokem +8

      Yah, investment companies like Black Rock and Vanguard and of course, McDowell.

    • @zepedrofd
      @zepedrofd Před rokem +8

      @M P Yes, but I was thinking more globally, in a lot of very different industries, not just planes.

    • @d.bcooper2271
      @d.bcooper2271 Před rokem +2

      Justifying evil

  • @ew4096
    @ew4096 Před 4 lety +18

    This indictment of Boeing quality control expands into anything America is building. Cars, appliances, homes, etc. I used to purchase GMC/Chevy Suv's for about 20 years. My last model a Yukon GMC, had so many problems, not only engine, but the way the doors fit, AC, heat, the hood, the seats that I no longer purchase American made vehicles. I have purchased only Toyota vehicles and have had absolutely no issues with them.

    • @peterkotara
      @peterkotara Před 3 měsíci +1

      This is an issue with U.S. corporate culture. Investor return takes precident above all. Every new CEO must cut more costs than their predecessor. It will end in tears.

    • @valeriabrach2470
      @valeriabrach2470 Před 3 měsíci

      "Made in America" has lost its meaning.I used to work for electromotive diesel, which was part of G.M. at the time. We were building multi-million dollar engines for trains and ships, etc. The things I saw due to workers being rushed to meet schedules were ridiculous. The quality was garbage, I can imagine what happens at the car plants,if this is high $$ stuff and tons of issues would slip by. From a safety perspective, these engines would go in massive ships. Do you know what happens to a ship without propulsion? IT CAN GET EVERONE ON BOARD KILLED.

    • @mpinline1
      @mpinline1 Před měsícem

      Toyota has made cars in Kentucky for the US market for ages, it's the company culture that makes the difference.

  • @TMBpk
    @TMBpk Před měsícem +3

    This documentary in NINE YEARS OLD! 😮

  • @whitedevil5885
    @whitedevil5885 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Shows that companies would rather profit over reputation and would rather censorship over truth

  • @yesnoyeswait4306
    @yesnoyeswait4306 Před 3 lety +13

    Al Jazeera does hard work finding problems inside Boeing and its safety.
    Result: Some clown cuts interview and Boeing denies everything. Way to go Boeing. Real professional. You truly care for our safety.

  • @lehua16
    @lehua16 Před 5 lety +1407

    Let’s put CEOs + stockholders and thier entire family on test flight!

  • @czkm1694
    @czkm1694 Před měsícem +2

    I drop tears at 37:01, when Mr. Wood says:"It shouldn't be this hard to do the right thing"😢

  • @thrillhouse4784
    @thrillhouse4784 Před rokem +15

    My roommate works in the Tesla factory in austin, and him coming from working at the Toyota plant says the level of incompetency is astounding. He loves the job but can't believe how poorly it's managed

  • @rustykilt
    @rustykilt Před 5 lety +320

    The great sadness is seeing a company like BOEING, recognised as the builder of legendary aircraft, decline to such a level. Corporate criminals are everywhere including in Politics and playing with people's lives to satisfy Corporate greed.

    • @OpiChaggar
      @OpiChaggar Před 5 lety +5

      Very true. They are serving co-operate power.

    • @carlosqlv
      @carlosqlv Před 4 lety +1

      truth

    • @alucardhellsing1037
      @alucardhellsing1037 Před 4 lety

      Very true.

    • @p_d_a_trfs6585
      @p_d_a_trfs6585 Před 4 lety

      Onlinesince82 oof Lockheed needs to buy Boeing and start doing commercial services

    • @p_d_a_trfs6585
      @p_d_a_trfs6585 Před 4 lety +2

      Embrear needs to expand into long haul aircraft if that ever happens

  • @nicksivds
    @nicksivds Před 5 lety +592

    I just watched the Australian 60mins program on the 737 max and this showed up in the watch next feed. This is very disturbing, but I should not be in-the least bit surprised! I have worked in the oil and gas industry for 15 years doing inspection work. They all claim safety is first until it stands in the way of the profit margin.

    • @hbjaffri
      @hbjaffri Před 5 lety +27

      Watched the lionair crash in the sea of Indonesia, the grivences in the face of family members of the victims. We can't understand why the human life is of no value to the corporate world.

    • @laynefischer2021
      @laynefischer2021 Před 5 lety +10

      Nick L. Lol.. safety! It’s only matters when the boss is around but they know full well that the job would not get done if there’s no short cuts and safety cuts, we see it all the time in every industry, but most of the time we on the ground get away with it , not so when your in a Boeing 737 max , or maybe next a Dream liner , it’s discussing what Boeing has / and is doing . Thank God for Airbus, we’ve seen how safe they are just look at the Qantas A380 . Drama .. if that was a Boeing golly knows what would of happen, the 737 max has problems staying in the air with no blown engines. Hail the 747 those days are gone for Boeing I think 💭 sad

    • @RatusMax
      @RatusMax Před 5 lety +9

      I watched this JUST BEFORE the 737 fiasco... so I knew wtf was up when they said 2 dropped out of the sky...

    • @diiriyetv
      @diiriyetv Před 5 lety +3

      Same here

    • @Tony-oi3mw
      @Tony-oi3mw Před 5 lety +18

      @@hbjaffri The American two-party political system, unfortunately, ensures all things that matter in human society defer to the growth & hoarding of corporate profits, executive compensation, and political longevity for public officials who act as industry sentries. US-style capitalism demands no deviation from this dystopian process.

  • @jimle22
    @jimle22 Před 3 měsíci +3

    As a former employee at the Boeing South Carolina 787 factory, I can concur about everything in this video.

  • @timbaugh4034
    @timbaugh4034 Před měsícem +6

    Fast Forward to March 2024, Several Boeing Executives announced they are leaving on the same day. Do you think there will be changes at Boeing? Probably, not!

  • @nathanielgirma8265
    @nathanielgirma8265 Před 5 lety +132

    And now I return to this on March 13th, 2019 after the fatal accidents of two, revolunary best selling aircraft from Boeing. What else is there to say really. Aljazeera, I think it's time for a part two, the 737 Minimum Requirements.

    • @christianchristian1741
      @christianchristian1741 Před 5 lety +14

      737 MAXimum greed, or 737 MAXimum culpabilities

    • @valeriegriner5644
      @valeriegriner5644 Před 5 lety +6

      Yes...part TWO is in order. Please include WHO/WHAT was on those 2 downed 737 MAX 8 planes, who profited (had puts) on Boeing stock, and investigate whether the MCAS/automated plane could possibly be flown("hacked") REMOTELY. Oh yes, verify whether or not CHINA is about to take over this market with their new planes. Thanks for a great documentary.

    • @vladsnape6408
      @vladsnape6408 Před 4 lety +2

      I prefer the title "737 Crashmaster Max"

  • @hugostiglitz6914
    @hugostiglitz6914 Před 5 lety +284

    I remember when this documentary was first aired it was ignored and derided because it was from Al Jazeera!

    • @vap0rtranz
      @vap0rtranz Před 5 lety +14

      Yup. Even though Qatar's biggest airline, Emirate Airlines, ordered lots of 787 Dreamliners, so wouldn't it make more sense for Al Jazeera to _not_ air this? Hmmm.

    • @Calvin19244
      @Calvin19244 Před 5 lety +34

      @@vap0rtranz Emirates canceled their order of all dreamliners.

    • @wonderfulwenna2710
      @wonderfulwenna2710 Před 5 lety +3

      Hugo Stiglitz of course...typical!

    • @Yawpism
      @Yawpism Před 4 lety +19

      Al Jazeera is amazing!

    • @ArchonCommando
      @ArchonCommando Před 4 lety +2

      The bias is still obvious. Just look how much they dickride the people smoking weed as the worst people on the planet.

  • @fredjacobsen5025
    @fredjacobsen5025 Před 3 měsíci +4

    The odds of winning in Monte Carlo or Las Vegas: are still much better than betting your very life on flying on Boeing airliners. A very sad commentary! But very true😢

  • @kawkawliang9959
    @kawkawliang9959 Před měsícem +6

    Did you screw all the 4 screws after it left station 1. I think I did. What can 4 screws do ??

  • @JonHeckendorf
    @JonHeckendorf Před 5 lety +62

    Worked for McDonnell Douglas and for Boeing. I worked in the aircraft industry all of my life. I witnessed, starting in the eighties, the quality of labor changing from the best and brightest scientists, engineers, technicians, repairmen, maintenance men, purchasers, clerical and secretarial staff, et al. to the dregs who are uneducated, unskilled, foreigners who can barely read and write English if at all. Couple that with domestic workers who come from EEOC, off-the street high school dropouts, drug addicts, ... They are cheaper but you get what you pay for. Use these workers to design and build things people stake their lives on and that spells disaster.

    • @PaulReinhard
      @PaulReinhard Před 5 lety +7

      Yet more planes are flying now than the eighties and there are much less crashes. Your argument does not really hold weight.

    • @JonHeckendorf
      @JonHeckendorf Před 5 lety +5

      @@PaulReinhard My argument has nothing to with the number of planes flying, past or present or about crashes, past or present. I think you need to REREAD my post AND comprehend my post. I was referring to the industry getting rid of their intelligent, experienced and qualified technical workers and replacing them with unqualified, inexperienced but cheaper labor.

    • @preciousjose
      @preciousjose Před 5 lety +5

      @@JonHeckendorf perhaps you need to reread the comment. Unintelligent foreigners building planes would result in more crashes, wouldn't it? However, that's not the case. So, its best if the unintelligent people who can barely speak English build planes since the statistics prove its safer if those unintelligent people built the planes.

    • @JonHeckendorf
      @JonHeckendorf Před 5 lety

      @@preciousjose I didn't say "unintelligent" (your word) but I also didn't write "dregs", "EEOC", "school dropouts" or drug-addicts" either. Someone changed my post. We live in interesting times. Fly or don't fly, I don't care what you do.

    • @JonHeckendorf
      @JonHeckendorf Před 5 lety +1

      @@PaulReinhard I went to the NTSB website and looked up the numbers. Some increase in number of flights but about the same ratio to crashes AND about the same number of crashes. Well within an acceptable standard deviation to be statistically about the same. That said, I was talking about cheap foreign labor replacing American labor.

  • @gobozen
    @gobozen Před 5 lety +200

    44:13 Paul Lewis, Boeing's communications director barges in on the interview, starts interrogating the reporter to give up his sources. He is eager to punish them, like all the other conscientious engineers fired before, who dared to report quality issues.
    This is followed by the communications *director* freely giving orders to the vice president and general manager of the 787 program (Larry Loftis at that time). This shows the priorities of Boeing.

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista Před 5 lety +14

      Yep, proper real example of the tail wagging the dog. These guys are SOO arrogant though, they dont even realize people can see them and know what they are. I got a flight to Singapore next week, checked it out, 777, designed the old, engineering first way - now sure how I'd felt if were something else though!

    • @ericakumu6511
      @ericakumu6511 Před 5 lety

      Selling a lie it is

    • @LionPride11241968
      @LionPride11241968 Před 5 lety +2

      You don't blind side no company like that, and they should have been tossed out on their heads.

    • @BobBob-of7fg
      @BobBob-of7fg Před 5 lety +9

      LionPride11241968 gotta stand up for those little executives. Don't want them to be making 250k/year instead of 500k.

    • @sethtek8115
      @sethtek8115 Před 4 lety +9

      "You can't ask us a question like that we haven't had a chance to craft an answer". Sound like the answer going to be crafted from fake wood or some other crud they used to make the plane.

  • @edwardwong654
    @edwardwong654 Před 3 měsíci +9

    That Senior VP answered the last statement looking exactly like the Latka Gravas character from Taxi played by the late Andy Kaufmann. Take a look at his eyes, they are exactly the same. I mean these murderous criminals aren't even that smart. Dank you very much.

  • @TannerCity
    @TannerCity Před 3 měsíci +5

    As you can see, the shoddy workmanship didn’t start with the 737 Max.

  • @crystalcc8833
    @crystalcc8833 Před 5 lety +48

    That poor whistler blower engineer! You did what was right on a human level knowing that people’s lives were in your hands, you should never be embarrassed or ashamed for having a conscience

  • @largol33t1
    @largol33t1 Před 4 lety +178

    So, in most cases, lithium batteries are banned from being carried on by passengers. Boeing is ALLOWED to install them on the plane. Got it.

    • @tardvandecluntproductions1278
      @tardvandecluntproductions1278 Před 4 lety +1

      Only loose ones as those don't all have short-circuit protection. But even those have lower changes of catching fire!

    • @junkerju58
      @junkerju58 Před 4 lety +5

      Lithium ion polymer batteries of any kind are forbidden by the USPS to be airfreighted.

    • @williamdavids5915
      @williamdavids5915 Před 3 lety +5

      Lol.....understand what you are saying.......I couldn't take an ordinary stainless steel table knife on board a plane.......yet meals were served on that plane.....with steel cutlery!

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 Před 3 lety

      rights for some expenses for others.

    • @vbscript2
      @vbscript2 Před 3 lety +4

      Consumer lithium batteries aren't exactly designed to the same standards as aviation parts. And cargo also isn't stored in special compartments that can be vented to the outside like the 787's batteries are. The primary risk with carrying consumer lithium batteries in the cargo decks is them igniting the other cargo, resulting in an out-of-control fire (which has happened and has crashed freighters.)
      As far as "being carried on by passengers," you're horribly wrong there. Not only are passengers not prohibited from carrying on lithium batteries, they're *required* to carry on any spare lithium batteries they may have. They're required to be carried in the passenger cabin, so that, when they do start fires (and they do from time to time,) they can be extinguished by the cabin crew and/or passengers. They can't do that in the cargo hold, which is why they're not allowed there. Millions of lithium batteries are carried on airliners around the world each and every day. There is an approximately 0% chance that any commercial flight you will be on at any time in the foreseeable future will not have lithium batteries in the passenger cabin.

  • @howy5799
    @howy5799 Před měsícem +2

    This is the best lesson ever for the fact that you can never cheat safety ever. It will always find a way.

  • @luckyguy600
    @luckyguy600 Před měsícem +9

    Over the years ALJazeera's quality of investigation and presentation have been impeccable.
    Two thumbs up!
    Quality programing.

    • @philipambler3825
      @philipambler3825 Před měsícem +1

      This report 9yrs ago..
      But if you're a Cocaine Addict in management, all you care about is the Money..to keep up your addiction.

  • @vincenttayelrand
    @vincenttayelrand Před 5 lety +412

    Excellent-
    Perhaps even more relevant in 2019 than it was in 2014

    • @lmlmd2714
      @lmlmd2714 Před 5 lety +25

      Yep, in hindsight *all* the warning signs are there in a dodgy as f--- corporate culture. I am seriously avoiding Boeing aircraft these days. Glad I live in Europe, where we have lots of airlines using Airbus fleets.

    • @colleenpeterson7247
      @colleenpeterson7247 Před 5 lety +7

      Obama was happy about them

    • @colleenpeterson7247
      @colleenpeterson7247 Před 5 lety +5

      @@pitech4446 ,,Yes, I have done some searching on these jets,,Horrible !!!

    • @willievanwyk3882
      @willievanwyk3882 Před 5 lety +1

      Colleen Peterson m990

    • @BigMacBombs
      @BigMacBombs Před 4 lety

      The MAX problem has nothing to do with the 787. The 787 is a great aircraft with a great safety record.

  • @bravowhiskey3239
    @bravowhiskey3239 Před 3 lety +84

    Great work, Al Jazeera. I've flown on Dreamliners a couple of times, but after seeing this I'll be flying something non-Boeing whenever possible. Good on you John Woods for having the courage to blow the whistle on this nonsense.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 Před rokem +1

      why would you not fly anything Boeing

    • @ernietech2256
      @ernietech2256 Před rokem +4

      @@nickolliver3021 I'd certainly fly on Boeing aircraft as a general class, but I would not say that the company has done anything to make me feel better about its sad state of priorities. I did fly on a 787-9 to Europe recently and it was a super nice ride. But ignorance is bliss I suppose. Now has there been any airframe failure related fatalities in the 787 line. None that I know of. So maybe we're on borrowed time? Hard to say.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 Před rokem +3

      @@ernietech2256The company has done something to make people feel better about its better state of priorities. They're definitely not In a sad state now. What ignorance is bliss? The 787 hasn't had any failure related fatalities in the production line. Just bad quality work that has now been addressed. I think they're on track to recovery and racking up more orders which is excellent to see

    • @GuilhermeLouzada
      @GuilhermeLouzada Před 10 měsíci +1

      Good luck

    • @josephman1488
      @josephman1488 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Would you still fly on it now.

  • @trukeesey8715
    @trukeesey8715 Před rokem +5

    Outsourcing was an obsession among American businessmen at all levels at the time. Almost it was an embarrassment if you didn't outsource. I saw this in the internet marketing "community" -- all of the "experts" were insisting upon outsourcing.
    This was the source of a few very entertaining moving pictures, but also led to the modern scam companies in Kolkata and elsewhere in India. I have had also good experiences with outsourced tech help from India, so let's keep a balanced viewing.

  • @riturajborah382
    @riturajborah382 Před 2 měsíci +5

    This documentary aged well.

  • @PHILMKD95
    @PHILMKD95 Před 5 lety +106

    The FAA fails to do it's job, yet again.

    • @wernerdanler2742
      @wernerdanler2742 Před 4 lety +4

      They fail to do their job because they are underfunded and understaffed just like most of the federal regulatory agencies.
      So Congress listenes to industry lobbyists like in the video and gives the industries more self-regulatory authority instead of giving more funding to the agencies. We'd have that money if we had not spent trillions on foreign wars.

    • @d.e.b.b5788
      @d.e.b.b5788 Před 4 lety +3

      Politicians think that the job of the FAA is to rubber stamp American corporate products without any oversight. This maximizes profits and executive bonuses. Which is all that the rich care about. Money. Deaths? People are expendable.

    • @johnsherman7289
      @johnsherman7289 Před 4 lety +1

      FAA or FDA, you get what you pay for.

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 Před 4 lety

      FAA? You mean cop over corporate supremacy? Hasn't happened that way since the 1970's...

  • @dangleason9023
    @dangleason9023 Před 5 lety +54

    All the executives should have to be on the first 100 flights of their new project.

    • @theredraven
      @theredraven Před 5 lety +1

      "They fly their private jets. "
      Private jets tend to have more accidents than commercial airliners.
      "They build these plans for money."
      Oh that's good. If they didn't they'd go out of business and then no planes would get built.

    • @towmlvb3423
      @towmlvb3423 Před 5 lety

      Sure: a good idea for simple legislation that could be enacted so easily.

    • @zealman79
      @zealman79 Před 4 lety

      Strapped to the underside of the engine... Intake or outlet nay it don't matter...

    • @rondarkman.
      @rondarkman. Před rokem

      Give me the first 100 flights free I'll do it

    • @planetcaravan2925
      @planetcaravan2925 Před 2 měsíci

      Why

  • @adamproductions4529
    @adamproductions4529 Před 27 dny +3

    If Boeing isn't held accountable the system is truly broken and there is little hope for America.

  • @naturalbeauty3762
    @naturalbeauty3762 Před 2 měsíci +5

    And now they killed john barnett for telling about everything.

  • @adriananzano2292
    @adriananzano2292 Před 4 lety +317

    this just completely changed my outlook on Boeing as a company. Will definitely think twice before flying on a Boeing plane.

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 Před 4 lety +44

      Boeing now recommends as a solution wearing fire proof socks and sneakers and knowing Bible verses by heart before flying on one of their aircraft.

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 Před 4 lety +8

      They have been caught hiring people with almost no manufacturing experience in their factories! And some employees openly admitted this! Their reputation is permanently tarnished. I refuse to fly on their Max models or Dreamliners. Can't trust them to care about safety. Remember their crazy fanboys: "It ain't Boeing so I ain't going!" Okay, what if the only airline that will fly them from City A to City B has Airbus A300s and NOBODY else in the airport has an available flight to City B? Trust me, the morons will take the flight rather than sleep at the airport until a Boeing plane shows up. They're so blind it's hilarious.

    • @mickchampion222
      @mickchampion222 Před 4 lety +7

      This reflects on the whole American aviation industry, who will hold this stupidity as an example of crony capitalism and why their needs to be ruthless regulation, for public safety.

    • @seanm9483
      @seanm9483 Před 4 lety +5

      I live 10 min away from where they build 737s and I will only fly Airbus, Embraer and CRJ models lol.
      757 is the only exemption, love that plane.

    • @TLO129
      @TLO129 Před 4 lety +4

      Airbus has the issue where the flight controls aren’t linked. So if a pilot is making a mistake the other pilot would have no way of knowing.

  • @MrWaheedulHaque
    @MrWaheedulHaque Před 3 lety +28

    The boeing employee had hurt in his eyes this is how you know how bad this company is

  • @simongills2051
    @simongills2051 Před rokem +4

    This video is when I first realised there could be something very wrong with Boeing. Well done AJ.

  • @srstacy
    @srstacy Před 3 měsíci +34

    This documentary is 9 yrs old. Out of curiosity, I looked it up and it turns out "As of December 2023, the 787 program has booked a total of 1,909 orders and made 1,110 deliveries while recording zero fatalities and no hull losses."

    • @jpmtlhead39
      @jpmtlhead39 Před 2 měsíci

      Its not the "Dream Liner" but the "Dream On".
      Boeing is no more.
      Greed Lead to hundreds of people Lost their Lifes.
      And "people" like me dont forget how and why Boeing Airplanes are killing people.
      787,777 or any other model, Boeing Reputation with Quality and Safety being Tarnished beyond repair,its just a matter of time before Boeing Start to fade away .
      When "you" Start to kill inocent people by the hundreds by Sheer ( criminal) Negligence, "your" Destiny is Sealed.

    • @m.streicher8286
      @m.streicher8286 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Weird to focus on 787 when this video clearly displays the workplace culture that killed hundreds of people (since this doc released)

    • @l33wan
      @l33wan Před 2 měsíci +1

      787 was issued an Airworthiness Directive for a series of battery fires a few years after it started flying. All aircraft worldwide were grounded till a solution was found. It was just fortunate that the fire occurred while the jet was on ground.

    • @philipambler3825
      @philipambler3825 Před měsícem

      Passenger Aircraft are only as safe as the safety standards of the manufacturer..
      How many faults/controversies have been covered up, to protect Boeing's reputation?

    • @gergelynagy987
      @gergelynagy987 Před měsícem

      I'm wondering if that is pure luck they never had fatalities, or maybe the main bits are done correctly, and only the less important parts are falling off, like doors and interior panels, but not the engines or the wings... so even with a million faults its somehow able to fly.. I don't know

  • @fintincollins5103
    @fintincollins5103 Před 5 lety +84

    Designed by engineers built by accountants.

    • @Bredaxe
      @Bredaxe Před 4 lety

      Yeah but what manufactured product isn't dictated by accounting?

    • @sethtek8115
      @sethtek8115 Před 4 lety +5

      Didn't he say they hired burger flippers on dope?

    • @brahim119
      @brahim119 Před 4 lety +1

      *@Fintin Collins.* Top comment, that deserves *one million thumbs up.*

  • @mawabethel
    @mawabethel Před 5 lety +90

    About time Al Jazeera launch an investigation into Boeing 737 Max...

    • @TheWormzerjr
      @TheWormzerjr Před 5 lety +1

      The mandela effect is the cause of the airplane crashes. The turbines used to be directly under the wing, but now it has magically moved to the front of the wings. research it

    • @Jerseybaby19
      @Jerseybaby19 Před 4 lety +1

      @@TheWormzerjr they moved the engines forward because they were too large to fit under the wings. Then it caused a fault and the plane kept diving because of yhe airflow. So then they put MCAS system to override the airflow problem thus several more faults and not telling any airlines or pilots about the MCAS system... this caused 2 huge accidents and caused them to get grounded. Much love an aircraft expert 🤷‍♀️

    • @Jerseybaby19
      @Jerseybaby19 Před 4 lety

      @Andreas Andreas see below comment

  • @jaydabliu
    @jaydabliu Před měsícem +4

    Wow... this was 9 years ago? Boeing hasn't changed one bit

  • @andyb.1026
    @andyb.1026 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I was an Aerospace Engineer most of my life, civil and military, with all the big manufacturers and operators... I have been telling people for years to avoid going on any Boeing,, but most are just interested in a cheap ticket 😮😢

  • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298

    So disappointed with Boeing. The company, at least originally, is the best in the world, in my opinion but these new crooks and thieves are running it like a huge money spinning machine at whatever cost. Such a shame.

    • @lecorsaire2283
      @lecorsaire2283 Před 5 lety +17

      This is all because they refused to design a new 737. They simply put huge new engines on the same old design which makes the nose tilt up. That’s why they need this automatic MCAS system.
      What can pilots do when there’s an out of control evil computer with bad info on board trying to crash the plane?

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 Před 5 lety +3

      @@lecorsaire2283 interesting insight. Thanks much.

    • @lecorsaire2283
      @lecorsaire2283 Před 5 lety +7

      Sithabelamandlawenkosiwodumoemangalisayo Yebo Thank you. Of course it’s a little more complicated than my comment but this is the most simple way to explain it.
      Another issue is that Boeing told airlines that pilots who were used to older 737s could fly the MAX without extra training. This is turning out to be half true. While of course they can fly it that doesn’t mean they are prepared to deal with challenges from the new computerized systems and handling characteristics. Hopefully these two crashes lead to a revision that doesn’t allow this to happen ever again.
      There are now questions on the FAA that certified this plane. If they are just rubber stamping every new Boeing plane, this practice must stop immediately or the FAA will no longer be the most respected regulatory agency for civil aviation.

    • @brodyoxnard9370
      @brodyoxnard9370 Před 5 lety +3

      these new crooks might not want you to name them. if you know who they are please respond privately. thank you.

    • @valeriegriner5644
      @valeriegriner5644 Před 5 lety +5

      @@lecorsaire2283 It's like a scene from "2001, A Space Odyssey," when HAL...the computer takes over and says...."sorry, Dave, I can't obey that command"(or something like that). Computers gone psycho!

  • @PS-ln6tx
    @PS-ln6tx Před 2 měsíci +2

    I went to search for any kind of information about what is going on at Boeing in 2024 about quality control, manufacturing issues, accidents with the 737 MAX, and the death of a whistleblower, only to find this gold material and this was still an issue back in 2010.

  • @JoeSmith-ex5ur
    @JoeSmith-ex5ur Před rokem +12

    Interesting documentary. It's interesting that 8 years later, 1021 Dreamliners have been delivered. There have been no crashes, and now all the remaining aircraft are built in South Carolina. The company headquarters are moving or have moved to Virginia. Companies change and adapt overtime. Why don't you do another documentary now on Seattle and Chicago and how those places have changed.

    • @johnbennettbutcher1228
      @johnbennettbutcher1228 Před 11 měsíci +4

      How about a "hard-hitting" documentary about the Air France 447 crash and how Airbus and Air France KNEW about frozen pitot tubes and angle of attack sensors, and inadequate heaters for them, for years, after endless complaints from Air France pilots.

    • @sudeepsubedi1975
      @sudeepsubedi1975 Před měsícem +1

      Well one nearly crashed few days before and you can't forget Boeing 737 max program ..

  • @lamrof
    @lamrof Před 5 lety +228

    The dreamliner had multiple issues, with one just catching fire while on the ground, Now we have these crashes of the 737 Max 8's. A new launched plane nose diving out of the sky is unheard of. The FAA is in Cahoots with these businesses. The FAA is to help the airlines compete just like the FDA is there to help hospitals and drug companies make money. Most academic institutions are businesses operating for grant money. Rome rotted from the inside. That fate is awaiting us.

    • @lamrof
      @lamrof Před 5 lety +3

      @DlLD0ES yes

    • @christianchristian1741
      @christianchristian1741 Před 5 lety +2

      Take a look also about 737-NG

    • @MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS
      @MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS Před 5 lety +5

      Lam rof
      THAT is the sad truth!

    • @frankfacts6207
      @frankfacts6207 Před 5 lety +8

      add the bloated, autonomous military and you got a deal

    • @CarlinDontCare
      @CarlinDontCare Před 5 lety +2

      Lam rof yes, the dreamliner had many issues regarding it’s lithium batteries but remember Boeing is not the maker of them lithium batteries!