System Failure: The Boeing Crashes | Fault Lines

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  • When a commercial airplane crashed off the coast of Indonesia in October 2018, global aviation authorities were shocked.
    The aircraft was a 737 MAX, one of the newest models of US manufacturer Boeing.
    And then when a second MAX dropped out of the sky in Ethiopia in March 2019, investigators said they believed that software on the airplane played a role in both crashes.
    With 346 people dead and the MAX now grounded, aviation authorities around the globe have asked what went wrong, how the US certified the aircraft in 2017 and how oversight failed. Families and investigators are still searching for answers.
    A former Boeing engineer who worked on the plane, and asked to remain anonymous, recalls that the design and testing of the 737 MAX took place amid immense commercial pressure.
    "Cost pressure and time. Time pressure was the biggest impact, biggest driver ... [There was] immense pressure on getting the airplane to market as soon as possible," he told Fault Lines.
    "On the 737 MAX there was constant pressure to not change anything. From a cost perspective, change costs money. The business side drives the culture."
    Captain Dennis Tajer from the Allied Pilots Association believes "the system failed".
    "The system is Boeing, the FAA, other oversight areas from within those groups," he says. "What's the measure on that judgment? These crashes. It's that simple: the system failed. It failed our passengers, it failed the globe."
    Fault Lines traces what led to the two plane crashes and asks if US aviation regulators have allowed the industry too much control over safety.
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Komentáře • 806

  • @zevanoyaumalvasti3928
    @zevanoyaumalvasti3928 Před 4 lety +147

    I lost my friend in the Lion Air accident, and her body never found. Still, I couldn't imagine how painful it was for the man who lost his wife, and his kid to lost a mother. I feel so sorry for them

    • @khalidabdulghani
      @khalidabdulghani Před 4 lety +3

      My condolences to you, my friend. All the best!

    • @zevanoyaumalvasti3928
      @zevanoyaumalvasti3928 Před 4 lety +3

      @@khalidabdulghani thank you my friend, wish you all the best too!

    • @PP-ed9cf
      @PP-ed9cf Před 3 lety +6

      And as unimaginably tragic as that is, it would be so much easier on families and loved ones if the guilty party assumed responsibility. But no, they are too much focused on cleaning themselves up of their wrongdoing and making their filthy billions.

    • @luddite333
      @luddite333 Před 2 lety +1

      I am sorry - in USA we have so many companies and politicians and FAA that do not value good people like you or the family in the video.

    • @lizpurr8402
      @lizpurr8402 Před 2 lety +1

      I am so very sorry for the loss of your friend. May God Bless you and give you peace.

  • @kria9119
    @kria9119 Před 4 lety +59

    The guy who lost his wife broke my heart. So much pain and sadness. And love...

    • @renneedwards9826
      @renneedwards9826 Před 3 lety +1

      I wonder how he and the baby are doing so far 🥺😞

    • @danielle1ashley
      @danielle1ashley Před 2 měsíci

      Ugh same. You can tell he truly loved her with all his heart. Broke me. 😢

  • @3storiesUp
    @3storiesUp Před 4 lety +157

    My heart goes out to that lovely young lad who lost his wife. Terribly sad.

  • @TepuGames
    @TepuGames Před 4 lety +318

    feel sad for the guy lost his wife

    • @noblecollins9549
      @noblecollins9549 Před 4 lety +11

      I felt very emotional

    • @Racko.
      @Racko. Před 4 lety +13

      @@noblecollins9549 Another guy lost his ENTIRE Family from this crash. So sad!

    • @kevinanimationsyt2917
      @kevinanimationsyt2917 Před 4 lety +4

      Me too.

    • @alexdupreez9005
      @alexdupreez9005 Před 4 lety

      same

    • @nicksivds
      @nicksivds Před 4 lety +3

      Yeah. Just think, There are many more like him. These 2 crashes affected hundreds of families.

  • @ruiruark7226
    @ruiruark7226 Před 4 lety +178

    So sad to learn that all those deaths could have been avoided.

    • @kmcat
      @kmcat Před 4 lety +5

      The Ethiopian crew had the aircraft uncontrolled after the stab trim failed, but turning a failed system back on which is a huge no no in the aviation industry.
      As for the Loinair their crew didn't even pick up on the stab trim runaway. A stab trim runaway happens more often that you would think, but crew else were are better trained to deal and identify the issue.
      Yes the 737 Max has an issue, but I would not be surprised if the same outcome would of occurred if the two crew had the same issue in the NG.

    • @youtubegaming6877
      @youtubegaming6877 Před 4 lety +8

      @@kmcat if manual trim is not working are there any other options other then electric trim.
      When ever a aircraft is designed all fail system scenario should be considered. Boeing 737 max and MCAS is a rushed poorly designed system to make profit over safety.
      And always remember Prevention is better than cure.

    • @Observer-cd2ul
      @Observer-cd2ul Před 4 lety +7

      @@kmcat Note what Captain Sullenberger has to say about blaming the pilots: "I know firsthand the challenges the pilots on the doomed accident flights faced, and how wrong it is to blame them for not being able to compensate for such a pernicious and deadly design. These emergencies did not present as a classic runaway stabilizer problem, but initially as ambiguous unreliable airspeed and altitude situations, masking MCAS. The MCAS design should never have been approved, not by Boeing, and not by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)."

    • @mateuszzimon8216
      @mateuszzimon8216 Před 4 lety +1

      @@kmcat U should watch a "Mentour aviation" about stab trim runaway to look how much force is needed to operated that when u have a massive forces on trim

    • @lisaamaliyah436
      @lisaamaliyah436 Před 4 lety

      Yes if boeing immidiately check for lion air crashed 5 monts before ethiopian

  • @ruez
    @ruez Před 4 lety +15

    A320neo: introduced in January 2016, 825 built, wide seats, cheaper to purchase, 0 crash and 0 fatalities.
    B737 MAX: introduced in May 2017, 393 built, narrow seats, expensive to purchase, 2 crashes and 346 fatalities within 4 months and 10 days.

  • @suhail1452
    @suhail1452 Před 4 lety +74

    MCAS means: MAY CRASH ANY SECOND.

  • @kaikai114
    @kaikai114 Před 4 lety +50

    I share my tears with the guy who lost his wife...

  • @juliakerry2955
    @juliakerry2955 Před 4 lety +42

    That poor man in the beginning, my heart broke for him ! .

  • @marco1173
    @marco1173 Před 4 lety +20

    This plane needs to be grounded for life and teach Boeing a lesson.

  • @waqarsyed6641
    @waqarsyed6641 Před 4 lety +41

    737 MAX was made in Rush to compete with Airbus new A320.... my heart goes out for the victims and their families sorry for your loss from the bottom of my heart...... it was funny how they try to blame the Ethiopian Airlines and Lion Air.... when it was their own fault from the beginning from Boeing.... nobody should buy that airplane or at least not get on one..... it's a flop air plane..... failed .....Max stands for maximum casualties

  • @hagarthehorrible1391
    @hagarthehorrible1391 Před 4 lety +8

    As a nervous flyer I can't even imagine the horror those poor souls must've gone through. RIP.

  • @nungkinugroho5425
    @nungkinugroho5425 Před 4 lety +138

    Boeing: hundreds of lives lost? it happens
    Boeing: share price drops? it's a disaster

    • @mofa7899
      @mofa7899 Před 4 lety +9

      its not BOEING ITS THE AMERICAN WAY

    • @PKAPE004
      @PKAPE004 Před 4 lety +7

      Mo Fa, American way indeed.
      US government: If you, US citizens, commit murder, you will be prosecuted in a court of law.
      Us government: If we, US administration, commit atrocities resulting in deaths/displacement of millions in another country, no one will be held responsible except whistleblowers.

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 Před 4 lety +1

      @@PKAPE004 exactly

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 Před 3 lety +2

      Bad news: it was approved for flight. Guess some dirty politician liked the fat bribes Boeing was paying under the table.

  • @krispybacon5038
    @krispybacon5038 Před 4 lety +38

    Boeing tried to cut costs but it's costing them now.

    • @NickanM
      @NickanM Před 4 lety +9

      Saddest thing is that the passengers and their loved ones paid the ultimate price... 🥺😡

  • @BadGuyKryptonite
    @BadGuyKryptonite Před 4 lety +50

    This was hard to watch man...the grief is too much...

    • @KristinCortez
      @KristinCortez Před 3 lety +1

      I know. Listening to the widowed young father speak about the loss of his wife and how his beautiful baby boy would grow up without his Mama brought me to tears. 😢 RIP to the 346 precious souls who died on Flights 610 and 302. ❤️

  • @souissi1
    @souissi1 Před 4 lety +120

    When the FAA officials were ex Boeing employees !!!!

    • @lavergnee
      @lavergnee Před 4 lety +13

      When FAA officials will be Boeing’s employees!!!

    • @souissi1
      @souissi1 Před 4 lety +3

      @@lavergnee in the last couple of years they were....

    • @Pcarnevaaa
      @Pcarnevaaa Před 4 lety +2

      I didn’t know the future farmers of America was involved with Boeing that explains a lot 🤣

    • @souissi1
      @souissi1 Před 4 lety

      @@Pcarnevaaa even McDonald's ex staff are building the 787 !!!

    • @Matt_10203
      @Matt_10203 Před 4 lety

      @@souissi1 787 hasn't had a crash ever. Also being an ex staff member of McDonalds then working on aircraft has no basis on skill. A stupid statement.

  • @richardlumleysmith2843
    @richardlumleysmith2843 Před 4 lety +78

    FAA should be prosecuted for manslsughter -where was the oversight ).

    • @Fluxtime451
      @Fluxtime451 Před 4 lety +4

      its boeing and the faa

    • @conflagrationTuesday
      @conflagrationTuesday Před 4 lety +4

      A lot of certification is now "self-certified".
      Thank various political persuasion defunding 'expensive' agencies :|

    • @janverboven
      @janverboven Před 4 lety +2

      Richard - the US administration is run by money - nothing else.

  • @hyouzanren1846
    @hyouzanren1846 Před 4 lety +47

    I can't Imagine how pilots feel when they knew the plane they ride have a system to override their control and informed only after already kill 2 plane!

    • @samlsd9711
      @samlsd9711 Před 4 lety +5

      They don't even know there is faulty system to override!!!
      Would be a legit question at least one of the pilots would ask. But they did not know there is a system that they cannot override!

    • @Jamenator1
      @Jamenator1 Před 4 lety +1

      @@samlsd9711 The industry was well informed about the system (MCAS) and what to do after the first crash, within weeks the entire industry knew about this system, what to expect and what to do if it was fed false data. For unknown reasons the 2nd crew just did not do what they were supposed to to, many of their actions were against the checklist Boeing told them to use. The system can be easily overridden with normal trim inputs, the crew of the first crash did it more than 20 times without even knowing they were doing it, they eventually crash after the captain gave control to the first officer who's trim inputs were too small, not big enough to completely undo MCAS inputs which eventually moved the trim too far and control was lost.

    • @weldonyoung1013
      @weldonyoung1013 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Jamenator1 , not quite right regarding the second crash & the system being easily tured off.
      Due to the type of sensor failure many system faults would have been competiting for cockpit crew's attention. Not only would the crew have difficulty preforming the necessary actions, they likely would not know quickly just what corrective action to lookup.
      As for disabling the automated system easily, that would have taken knowledge the automated system was taking control. In the Lion Air (1st crash) crash the pilot preformed the action over 20 time that he thought would take the automated system out of the loop. After the first crash flight crew were trained in the method to disable the MCAS, yet this is not intuitive with how they had become fimiliar with controlling the Boeing 737 type aircraft.

    • @Jamenator1
      @Jamenator1 Před 4 lety +1

      @@weldonyoung1013 Yes the reason why it crashed was distractions masking the real problem, however the fact remains if it was known that MCAS was active when it should not be, the way to stop it is very simple, trim the aircraft normally, leaving no more than 5 sec between trim inputs, then use the cutout switches which have been in the 737 for 50 years. The crew of the Ethiopian jet did not follow the checklist correctly, they tried to engage the autopilot several times despite the checklist specifically calling for it to be dis-engaged. They did this again right at the end after turning the trim system back on (against checklist) and for unknown reasons while the aircraft was entering its final dive they were trying to engage the autopilot when all they had to do to recover was use the normal trim controls. This was possibly because they knew MCAS would not engage if the autopilot was engaged. However they couldn't get the autopilot to engage because it could not engage under those conditions (possibly due to heavy force on the yoke), so they just wasted their time doing the opposite of what the checklist called for, it didn't work and the jet lost control while they were distracted. Their reasons may have been understandable in the moment, only the final report will tell, but the fact remains they did not follow the checklist. Obviously, given that 2 crews have crashed, its is hard to detect and overcome in the real world, but that doesn't mean it's had to override if you try, its just hard to know when to override it.

    • @weldonyoung1013
      @weldonyoung1013 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Jamenator1 , I believe you may have target the culprit - the flight crew were over stressed/worked during one of the most intense phases of flight - the takeoff. Trying to engage the auto pilot might have been meant to reduce their workload so that they could analyse the problem. This they did while leaving the engines in takeoff thrust, which would lead to ineffective manual control.
      I've also heard that if the MCAS runaway is not addresses within seconds (up to 10seconds, well within the timeframe you state for proper recovery actions), recovery can be difficult or impossible. For such a system you would think the trained flight crew would be taught to elevate the MCAS to top priority, but then it should have also be designed that way into the flight controls.
      Hope we find the answers when the Ethiopian crash final report is released.

  • @brentsummers7377
    @brentsummers7377 Před 4 lety +72

    David Warren the inventor of the two black boxes should be thanked for stopping almost all the lies from the aircraft makers (and pilots) about what really happened in accidents. Without those black boxes Boeing would still be blaming in a racist way the pilots of the two 737MAX accidents. Without those black boxes it would have taken a USA airline 737 MAX crash before the fleet was grounded.

    • @petep.2092
      @petep.2092 Před 2 lety

      Actually, the black boxes show that the news media lied. What happened on the airplanes is not at all what you read in the news. There was no confusion, no desperate struggle with the flight controls, no system took control from the pilots, the pilots DID counteract the system that activated-24 times! on one of the flights, on the flight before that the pilots actually shut off the system and continued on to their destination.

    • @petep.2092
      @petep.2092 Před 2 lety

      Blaming the pilots is not racist; but pretending it is racist… that's a cowardly way of avoiding responsibility. The pilots were not trained on at least one basic procedure that is mandatory. They can't be blamed for not receiving training that their airline is required to give them. I don't know why the airlines didn't give them the training. But by avoiding pointing it out, the problem will not be fixed.

    • @rais1953
      @rais1953 Před rokem

      Some countries rightly grounded the 737 MAX very quickly after the second crash. The USA took longer but it had to follow.

  • @encinobalboa
    @encinobalboa Před 4 lety +30

    Sad and maddening because Boeing has an existing MCAS design in the 767 that features redundant input from AOA sensors and automatic system disengage with pilot stick input. How these safety features were omitted in the Max should be the focus of the investigation.

    • @pumpalBo
      @pumpalBo Před 4 lety +3

      They outsourced the code to a web dev in India ..

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Před 4 lety +4

      pumpal LKT yup, after sacking all their in house software engineers to save costs

    • @jonpav6224
      @jonpav6224 Před 4 lety +3

      Engineering companies should be led by engineers. As soon as profit, business and marketing are the primary drivers it's game over. Too much outsourcing and "partnering" with other companies to reduce costs.

    • @pumpalBo
      @pumpalBo Před 4 lety +2

      @@jonpav6224 Completely agree. I keep repeating that you can not apply same business approach to just any kind of business. You are not always selling clothes or iPhones, so you should adjust your management. Unfortunately corporate culture spreads out mediocrity world wide. IMO there is a lot broken in the current system, where capable people are not appreciated and often even unwanted by the management..

    • @jonpav6224
      @jonpav6224 Před 4 lety +1

      @@pumpalBo So true unfortunately. Intelligent and passionate people are drawn to particular industries. They make the magic happen. The old (outdated) model of working from the ground up, knowing your product / service backwards used to make a difference. Corporate structures reward units of management. Everything is a cost, only profit matters. Combined with a framework of hands off / self regulation it leads to the predictably dire outcomes such as these. Aviation generally learns from engineering missteps but this was not unforeseen.

  • @amania9254
    @amania9254 Před 4 lety +16

    Waiting for this sort of report for quite some time, thanks for preparing and sharing it.

  • @brianbarcus5853
    @brianbarcus5853 Před 4 lety +3

    Extremely heartbreaking to watch that guy talk about his wife that died in the crash. May God bless him and ease his pain.

  • @shivamgaba8368
    @shivamgaba8368 Před 4 lety +48

    Thank You team Al Jazeera for excellent content.
    keep up the good work.

  • @claudiav2222
    @claudiav2222 Před 4 lety +11

    Well my father died because accident in street
    He fell of motorcycle while driving go to work and die few hour later
    He never go home , i feel he will go home but he never go home
    so i know his pain

  • @margretfortune1524
    @margretfortune1524 Před 4 lety +17

    It is appalling that other news agencies do not take the time to do a bit of investigating as Al Jezeera and sometimes RT. Maybe that would help as all the certification agencies failed us.

    • @vWaLLBangz
      @vWaLLBangz Před 4 lety +1

      It’s all about bullshit and feeding us distractions. Quality journalism is a rarity. It can survive even in these big conglomerates of media

  • @michaelblack7043
    @michaelblack7043 Před 4 lety +7

    It defeats comprehension how the CEO Mulienburg still has his job.
    He signed off on this aircraft at every single point of if its manufacture and flight life. Incredible.

  • @aguslaeman9416
    @aguslaeman9416 Před 4 lety +17

    FAA you can't trust them anymore, they should been trial to the court with boeing together.

  • @kiwiryker
    @kiwiryker Před 4 lety +15

    Great report, grown man here tears , this could have been any of us who fly ,, R.I.P. victims of Boeing

  • @chaz4609
    @chaz4609 Před 4 lety +14

    Those plutocratic management running Boeing should be sacked instead of bailing out in Golden parachutes.

  • @_YSET
    @_YSET Před 3 lety +5

    Can we just talk about the love the man had for his wife and how it broke not only his but our hearts

  • @alfayeedfitness778
    @alfayeedfitness778 Před 4 lety +4

    Not a nervous flyer but the developments concerning how Boeing prefers business over safety make me think twice before traveling on an airplane.I will stick to Airbus.

  • @essenceunique5968
    @essenceunique5968 Před 4 lety +7

    Sadly we live in a world where Money over powers the value of human life. Watching this breaks my heart..when ever I fly I have a hard time because of tragedy’s like this..I understand that you have to live life to the fullest with no fear but I would never trust flying in a Boeing 737 even if things were fixed. R.i.p to the victims of this terrifying tragedy

  • @4681MM
    @4681MM Před 4 lety +1

    Great documentary as always by Laila Al Arian and team. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @ilovesuisse1
    @ilovesuisse1 Před 4 lety +8

    I don’t care how many fixes Boeing makes to the 737, i’m never getting on one.

  • @joelalvares8351
    @joelalvares8351 Před 4 lety +8

    Everytime get on a plane I still check the wings for the signature fin fork of the max... .just to be sure it's not going to be my last flight.... LOL

    • @A.D.540
      @A.D.540 Před 4 lety +1

      The death by plane is so low people don't take the risk seriously 🙄

    • @Matt_10203
      @Matt_10203 Před 4 lety +1

      It's called a split winglet.

    • @joelalvares8351
      @joelalvares8351 Před 4 lety

      @@Matt_10203 thanks for the correction.... 👍

    • @masihullahhasanyar1084
      @masihullahhasanyar1084 Před 4 lety

      You can observe it on the boarding pass as well

  • @dannyjohnson7766
    @dannyjohnson7766 Před 4 lety +3

    I feel for all that lost their lives that day but the first interview with that man who lost his wife!!! Pulled on my heart strings 😢💙✌🇬🇧

  • @rollyelbambino
    @rollyelbambino Před 4 lety +64

    I'll never ride one of them planes

    • @pretjenr1127
      @pretjenr1127 Před 4 lety +2

      Same thing happend with airbus,

    • @beback_
      @beback_ Před 4 lety

      We don't have a choice in the matter.

    • @Ntdyz
      @Ntdyz Před 4 lety

      And yes that plane is beautiful 😂🍻 just have to sleep 99.9% of the time and you’ll be fine 😂😂😂😂

  • @TheThisisliving
    @TheThisisliving Před 4 lety +35

    I hear them say " Pay us more money or die " The FFA needs to be closed.

    • @beernpizzalover9035
      @beernpizzalover9035 Před 4 lety +1

      Not FFA; FAA = Federal Aviation Administration.

    • @Matt_10203
      @Matt_10203 Před 4 lety +1

      @Sasha R FFA isn't the FAA you clown.

    • @mateuszzimon8216
      @mateuszzimon8216 Před 4 lety

      Boeing sell AoA disagreement software as OPTION, AoA is sensor with fail on Etiopian

  • @golden4730
    @golden4730 Před 4 lety +13

    Boeing murdered those people. This wasn't an accident. This was murder. Not hard to understand at all.

    • @atari7001
      @atari7001 Před 4 lety

      Did you watch the video? The hardware installed was a safety feature designed to STOP emergencies. The intent was to save lives. Your assertion is emotional and nonsensical.

  • @oneluv4736
    @oneluv4736 Před 4 lety +11

    I wish all Boeing employees watched this video especially top management

  • @istiboytv
    @istiboytv Před 4 lety +13

    And no individuals or FAA personel charged..

  • @carolmorris404
    @carolmorris404 Před 4 lety +2

    I sincerely hope this dad is receiving counseling for PTSD. Boeing should pay his medical accounts. My son flew out from the UK to South Africa to surprise me. I casually asked him on which airline did he fly. He said Ethiopian, I bit my tongue not to bring up this crash but I said a silent prayer, thank God those flying Max coffins are grounded. RIP.

  • @maxwellayoo7138
    @maxwellayoo7138 Před 4 lety +13

    MCAS = Might Crash Anytime Soon😔😔😔

  • @chipamos
    @chipamos Před 4 lety +6

    The public of all nations deserve better.

  • @user-rc9qi6yp6k
    @user-rc9qi6yp6k Před 4 lety +3

    That faa guy sounding like grounding the 737 after back to back crashes was their 'finest' moment and are doing such a good job.

  • @camf7522
    @camf7522 Před 4 lety +17

    This is the most complete and unbiased reporting so far, and presents all the known facts so clearly.
    Now there are also problems with earlier models of the B737, pickle forks and slat tracks etc.
    It was interesting that the FAA representative did mention at the hearing that the FAA was pretty much the last regulator in the world to ground the MAX.

    • @lordoftheflings
      @lordoftheflings Před 4 lety +3

      The FAA lost all global credibility as a result and will never be the driver of global aviation safety again. That is now probably forever in Europeans hands.

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 Před 4 lety +3

      @@lordoftheflings US regulators have really bad record of doing their job.... remember 2008 banking crisis that shocked the world.....

    • @camf7522
      @camf7522 Před 4 lety

      Kiril Mihaylov and the gulf oil spill by BP.
      And natural gas fracking...the list is long.

  • @ConstructiveMinds100
    @ConstructiveMinds100 Před 4 lety

    Big thank you for this Captain for sharing his insight.

  • @cosak23
    @cosak23 Před 4 lety +10

    the stench of greed from the Boeing board will permeate for decades to come !!

  • @workplace8605
    @workplace8605 Před 4 lety +19

    So gald Al Jazeera is looking into this.

  • @royal1692
    @royal1692 Před 4 lety +3

    Be strong brother!!!

  • @larryelliott9157
    @larryelliott9157 Před 4 lety +4

    How many are aware that Boeing CEO who totally screwed up the 787 dreamliner and then retired was awarded a 23 million dollar bonus and then was able to retire on a $250,000 pension.
    That's $250,000 per month.
    Yes you read that correctly.

    • @Matt_10203
      @Matt_10203 Před 4 lety

      The dreamliner is fine.

    • @mateuszzimon8216
      @mateuszzimon8216 Před 4 lety

      @@Matt_10203 Go ask LOT how fine is....
      They still wait for engine from RR...

  • @Kitemangek
    @Kitemangek Před 4 lety +12

    They knew very well and had been told so, this is murder

  • @lolplays1102
    @lolplays1102 Před 4 lety +6

    3:30
    I feel so bad for this man😢😢

  • @j3fron
    @j3fron Před 4 lety +11

    end of 737 series...... old design from 70s
    just like dc 10 death cofin

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Před 4 lety +1

      j3fron designed in the 50s actually. Funnily enough it was the same MD management in charge of the dc10 debacle who headed up the push for the 737 max when they merged with Boeing. Go figure.

  • @yuukichan12
    @yuukichan12 Před 2 lety +2

    I can't fathom this type of incident happening in this day and age. And then to allow it to happen again, just 5 months later. Cost-cutting that cost the lives of well over 300 lives. They need to put the executives of Boeing on every subsequent testing on this aircraft. I can't imagine the fear of the passengers, the terror of the pilots when they realized that they could not save themselves or the lives of the many souls who had trusted them to keep them safe... And all of the family, friends and loved ones who's lives are irreparably destroyed. The real tragedy is how unavoidable this was. Those people would be here today had the ones at the top *truly* prioritized safety over profit

  • @BBaker-fr4op
    @BBaker-fr4op Před 4 lety +56

    If it's not Boeing then "I'm going"

    • @BBaker-fr4op
      @BBaker-fr4op Před 4 lety +1

      @Mark James i'm referring to the new max aircraft

    • @hannesp3493
      @hannesp3493 Před 4 lety +9

      Mark James ‘Airbus from Brazil’ I assume you mean AF447, which was put down to slow response from pilots to recover from stall. Queens air crash, excessive rudder inputs from pilot (any plane would fail if excess force is used). Habsheim Air Show accident is still disputed between pilot error or computer error. And Qantas 32 was an engine failure, nothing to do with the design of the A380

    • @hannesp3493
      @hannesp3493 Před 4 lety +7

      Mark James You can’t just name air crashes in which Airbus’ were involved to back your rhetoric. Face it, Boeing put out a flawed aircraft and didn’t train pilots well enough to deal with it if it goes wrong. Lion Air 610 should’ve been the only accident, but they continued to let the Max 8 fly and just gave a small statement about MCAS before it happened again

    • @hannesp3493
      @hannesp3493 Před 4 lety

      Mark James Alright mate, first of all. Qantas 32 was caused by a stub oil pipe breaking causing a turbine disc to disintegrate, the engine was a Rolls Royce Trent engine. A380’s with Engine Alliance engine’s were not grounded. This was the fault of Rolls Royce, it had nothing to do with the Airbus A380. Secondly, Habsheim Air Show (which is nowhere near Paris) is still disputed. Either the fly-by-wire system of the plane malfunctioned (of which it is Airbus’ fault) or official reports state that the pilot doing the flyover flew too slow and too close to the ground therefore not having enough time to climb past the trees. So your argument is irrelevant.

    • @hannesp3493
      @hannesp3493 Před 4 lety +1

      Mark James Also, my problem isn’t that Boeing made an aircraft that wasn’t airworthy. My problem was that they knew that MCAS system had issues. The FAA knew about it, but still certified the plane to fly. My problem is that after Lion Air 610 crashed, the problem was not resolved. 346 lives lost because of a company prioritising money. Not saying it is wrong, but it becomes wrong when you compromise the safety of innocent lives

  • @physicsonline8853
    @physicsonline8853 Před 4 lety +2

    Kudos for a very thought-provoking analysis.Big bucksan and does kill to protect its markets.I hope there's no hurry to get these planes back into the air.

  • @ilovelimpfries
    @ilovelimpfries Před 4 lety +6

    I can already tell what boeing response to this video. “It’s a vindictive hit piece targeted at boeing just like the 787 video. Our planes are the safest in the world. This is nothing but lies and slander.”

  • @peteryvr3329
    @peteryvr3329 Před 4 lety +6

    Boeing CEO said in NYC in October 2019, "was pilots overworked in cockpit that caused the crashes"; he is still denying his compsny management fault in 737max. Boeing is paying peanuts to compensate the victims while paying half billion dollars to the "community effected". What an insult to victims !!

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 Před 4 lety

      He looks very cocky and arrogant....

    • @beernpizzalover9035
      @beernpizzalover9035 Před 4 lety +1

      A lot of Engineers are; they just get more smug when promoted to Management.

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 Před 4 lety +1

      @@beernpizzalover9035 I don't know if he is an engineer at all....

  • @lavidaesbella559
    @lavidaesbella559 Před 4 lety +1

    Sorry for your lost bro RIP 🙏

  • @keikeilaroux2023
    @keikeilaroux2023 Před 4 lety +2

    So sad so tragic Im so sorry for this young man I cryed with him and when he said his wife was his best friend I couldn't stop crying I felt his pain and my heart breaks for him. I wish I could give him a hug. 🙏🙏🙏God bless🙏

  • @Salieri21
    @Salieri21 Před 4 lety +2

    Because of the higher and more forward position of the engines on the MAX, the plane tends to tilt up when the pilots take off with full throttle. And this triggers the MCAS to try and tilt the plane's nose down. MCAS would level the plane then disengage automatically, but the pilots do not know this information and try to tilt the plane up which triggers MCAS again and again. 737 MAX planes flew hundreds of times on a daily basis, but the pilots do not perform take-off with full throttle so the plane does not tilt few degrees upwards and MCAS does not engage.

  • @EL15E
    @EL15E Před 4 lety +6

    Boeing need to take full responsibility for this.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Před 4 lety

      Zoey Green Airlines ́•ω•` they won't. This is corporate America protected by the US government.

  • @kevinanimationsyt2917
    @kevinanimationsyt2917 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm crying

  • @monibstar
    @monibstar Před 4 lety +4

    Rest In Peace 🙏

  • @gandalf87264
    @gandalf87264 Před 4 lety +4

    Keep in mind please that MCAS did exactly what it was supposed to have done. it responded to faulty data from an AOA sensor.

    • @mooglemy3813
      @mooglemy3813 Před 4 lety

      Would have been nice for pilots to know what they were up against, and what is the faulty whatever? Didn't release any info that may of not helped in the end? Pilots have tried 737 Max in the sim, but couldn't recover the simulated air craft based on the two crashes. So it did what it's supposed to do right cause two crashes and hundred of deaths. Nuff Said!

    • @gandalf87264
      @gandalf87264 Před 4 lety

      @@mooglemy3813 I was thinking more along the lines of: These are experienced pilots. They are not idiots. If the aircraft keeps trimming down to the point that they can't keep it level or climbing, why didn't they counter trim or hold that trim wheel for deer life if the didn't know how to disable it? Are we getting so reliant on automation that we dare not fight it or disconnect it?

  • @edstanton1997
    @edstanton1997 Před 4 lety +5

    New planes relies on the computer to fly the plane, The old planes with a engineer in the cockpit cutting down the work load of the pilots to just flying the plane, Passengers trust the pilot not a computer.

  • @rodolfoayalajr.8589
    @rodolfoayalajr.8589 Před 4 lety +3

    Rip God bless you and your family Amen 🙏🏻.

  • @adoreslaurel
    @adoreslaurel Před 4 lety +1

    If ever the MAX flies again, it must be full of all the Boeing Executives and their families, If they won't risk it, no one should.

  • @jacobwarren7876
    @jacobwarren7876 Před 4 lety +1

    I feel his pain my mom died suddenly and it really destroyed me I’m still recovering from it

  • @kirkykyle2144
    @kirkykyle2144 Před 3 lety

    Heartbroken...

  • @terminator3199
    @terminator3199 Před 4 lety +4

    737 MAX should be Air Force 1 from now !

  • @wheresheilatravels9094
    @wheresheilatravels9094 Před 4 lety +2

    It is so sad knowing that cutting a cost and a competition at the expense of losing lives... I am heartbroken to those who perished and their families that are still grieving today,...

  • @williambonsor3915
    @williambonsor3915 Před 4 lety +5

    I will near trust the 737 max

  • @bluewaves_8
    @bluewaves_8 Před 4 lety +7

    Greed that killed all these innocent people. Allah rest their souls in peace.

    • @atari7001
      @atari7001 Před 4 lety

      Apparently we should switch to non-greedy Arab built airplanes?

    • @vidyasagar6155
      @vidyasagar6155 Před 4 lety

      LOL. Go watch David Woods in youtube and know who your allah really is.

  • @liudmilabrilliantova4191
    @liudmilabrilliantova4191 Před 4 lety +2

    I always check airplane info before booking any tickets, I will surely not fly on Boeing planes anymore! This company puts profit ahead of human lives.

    • @denzellucas609
      @denzellucas609 Před 3 lety

      But you can’t check the aircraft type until you finish booking

  • @levisfemon
    @levisfemon Před 4 lety +1

    Also not to mention greedy is the main reason. Those greedy cause people kill and it's not just on the aviation it's in every industry.

  • @kwpowell0412
    @kwpowell0412 Před 4 lety +11

    Mr/Ms Airline customer, I would rather lose your business and deliver a safe plane, than to rush a plane to production when we are not 100 percent certain it is safe.
    Someone at Boeing should have made that statement to the customers pressuring them. And folks, you are sadly mistaken if you think this problem only exist with American companies. As long as money is more important than human life, this kind of nonsense will always exist.
    The entire airline industry and FAA has blood on it's hands. And the American political system. Because that's where money buys anything, anyone desires. Washington DC is an expensive whorehouse!

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 Před 4 lety

      Exactly .... Boeing is huge contributor to the Congress....

    • @amarsabrine1930
      @amarsabrine1930 Před 4 lety

      @Benny Koh They might fix it and change its name and you will never know

    • @themaskedtalker2171
      @themaskedtalker2171 Před 4 lety

      @@amarsabrine1930 they should have gone with making a whole new plane. It could've been the next best thing! I'll happily fly on one of the older 737s, or an Airbus, or anything else. Just not the MAX.

  • @mendysoyaphi6906
    @mendysoyaphi6906 Před 4 lety +1

    Every painful may their souls continue to RIP

  • @TinLeadHammer
    @TinLeadHammer Před 4 lety +2

    Nothing was said about the stab trim cutoff switches, which were re-wired compared to the NG. If they were flying the NG, they would be able to turn off STS/autopilot and re-trim with electric trim. On the Max they were robbed of the option to turn off STS/MCAS/autopilot while keeping the electric trim. Unless Boeing re-wires stab trim cutoff switches to the NG configuration, the Max will remain inherently less safe aircraft compared to the NG.

  • @jonnynevada8915
    @jonnynevada8915 Před 4 lety +2

    I feel so bad for this man,, so young , with a child and you lose your loving Wife,, thats so horrible... Bless him ....

  • @bbmpalace9648
    @bbmpalace9648 Před 4 lety +8

    When it’s BOEING, I’m not GOING.. because BOEING’s company vision is that WHAT comes UP, must CRASH DOWN..

  • @saqibmudabbar
    @saqibmudabbar Před 4 lety +5

    Aircrafts should go through certifications in every country before they fly from or over that country.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Před 4 lety

      Planes & Planes 飞机 this one will probably have to, if it ever flies as a commercial passenger jet again. It'll pendent end up the same way as the dc10 and be converted to freight haulage. No one cares if a freight plane crashes.

    • @Matt_10203
      @Matt_10203 Před 4 lety

      @@GuinessOriginal it's going to be flying by the end of the year.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Před 4 lety

      Matt ha ha ha which year? And where?

    • @mateuszzimon8216
      @mateuszzimon8216 Před 4 lety

      @@Matt_10203 PLL LOT order ACMI to March 2020....
      This is a "happy evaluation", they think Europeian Vacation season 2020 it's possible to get 787-8200 to fly again

  • @liibaanxuseen8563
    @liibaanxuseen8563 Před 4 lety +10

    all those deaths could have been avoided !!!!

  • @tomweaverling1366
    @tomweaverling1366 Před 4 lety +1

    I feel so terribly bad for that guy who lost his wife. He seems like a good guy. His wife looked absolutely gorgeous and she sounds like she was a very special person. My heart goes out to him and everyone who lost a loved one on them flights.

  • @robhill974
    @robhill974 Před 4 lety +1

    I feel the pain in your heart,but I can promise you ,you shall see her again.

  • @theresaann7388
    @theresaann7388 Před 2 měsíci

    Your son looks so darling.. I really can't imagine the pain you are going through right now.. And I'm sure it seems like it will never end.. Don't worry about being both the mother and the father. Just do the best job you can do, and it will all work out.. You're God well watch over you and your child, As I am sure your wife Well. My prayers are with you and your child., God bless. Teresa. From jackson, Michigan.

  • @singhrajput6287
    @singhrajput6287 Před 4 lety +5

    5.25child coming im so sad this child so unlucky who lost his mother without mother how can child survive oh god so sad

  • @desalegnabo9347
    @desalegnabo9347 Před 4 lety +3

    RIP

  • @izumi6704
    @izumi6704 Před 4 lety +1

    Instead of all the nonsense promotion videos, all aircraft companies should play interviews of the victim families in the factory.

  • @Billhatestheinternet
    @Billhatestheinternet Před 4 lety +6

    Poor chap, totally devastated by the loss of his wife, who, by the pics, quite literally was his queen. Can't imagine the kid.

  • @NedTheUndead
    @NedTheUndead Před 4 lety +2

    9:39 I wonder if the voice over there is done by Mike Rowe

  • @focus678
    @focus678 Před 4 lety +4

    VICTIMS' FAMILY.... you guys need to sue Boeing for this disaster.

  • @lastella1994
    @lastella1994 Před 4 lety

    This came on my phone a day after the helicopter crash that happened on the 26th of January 2020 RIP 💔.I pray that God will strengthen all those who have lost their loved ones.

  • @jimpikoulis6726
    @jimpikoulis6726 Před 4 lety +1

    when did Boeing decide to de-engine

  • @davesmith5656
    @davesmith5656 Před 4 lety +1

    Would the plane have been better off without MCAS? Was that fail-safe system to ensure safety necessary? There's been a lot of talk about pilots becoming so dependent on the computers that they cannot fly without them. The drive for safety and control has apparently gotten around to biting its own tail with airplanes that override the pilots and won't allow them to fly, even if they could do so very well without the computer.

  • @farhanashraf808
    @farhanashraf808 Před 4 lety

    Very sad

  • @falkenvir
    @falkenvir Před 4 lety +2

    Boeing: "Lets fix design flaw with a software"

  • @chrissinclair3139
    @chrissinclair3139 Před 4 lety +2

    Schedule before Safety

  • @eddyshluger9332
    @eddyshluger9332 Před 4 lety

    Bonuses for the Boeing top management are much more important than human lives.