"The Dreamliner" | Boeing Age of Aerospace, Ep. 5
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- This episode unveils the technology, resources and risk required to build commercial aircraft in the modern world through the story of the 787 #Dreamliner.
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You murdered Barnett.
I am an Airbus mechanic in Germany. I flew with all Boeing types except the 707. Only when you are strong and succsessful we can be that too. We need a strong competetor. Boeing & Airbus. Together into the future. 🇩🇪🤜🇺🇲
Boeing Manufacturing here - we are trying man. Got a lot of great mechanics and engineers doing our damndest to get back on track. Can’t seem to catch a break right now
@@AviatePure737 Thank you.
BUT your management are ONLY interested in profits, having got rid of a sizeable chunk of engineers a decade ago and slashed human resource (wages, training , etc) along with actual posts. I'm certain that there are good people on the front line BUT the organization as a whole is clearly gambling peoples lives to enhance their margins. As a traveler, I have NO faith in Boeings recent (past 6-7years) output.
I actively avoid the Max and 787@@andrewpond1127
@@andrewpond1127 German Airbus mechanic No. 2 here. You do have outstanding mechanics and engineers, I agree. It´s always the dudes in the high places who mess things up. I wish you guys and gals nothing but the best of luck, and this comes from the heart. Hang in there, buddies! 💪
@@cannonballjenkins8136😅
36:17 "we had never had an airplane grounded in our history--ever...it was one of the darkest hours that we had"
boy this aged like milk.
The 707 was grounded
@@debbiegiles9144 the 707 should have listened to its parents....... it wouldn't have gotten grounded.
Boeing is in the enviable position of being the USA's biggest aircraft manufacturer, the USA will never allow Boeing to fail no matter what they do.
Sounds like communism too me, I guess the CCP will do the same with Cormac
Imagine going just under the speed of sound and a bulkhead door blasts its self off
And then finding out only 75% of the oxygen masks actually work.
No commercial jet liner gets anywhere near the speed of sound.
@@RobbyHouseIV "the 787 can reach a maximum speed of 0.9 Mach (690 mph/1,110 kph)"
@@RobbyHouseIV i think ive seen one doing up to 580kts on the flight radar at high altitude thats almost the speed of sound
@@RobbyHouseIV he said "Just under" not exactly at the speed of sound. So he meant around 1000km/hr. Majority of commercial aircraft cruise at that speed.
Japanese are proud of, and fond of, 787. Because it is a very beautiful aeroplane with superb interior design and travel comfort, and it is made "with" Japan, the Japanese technology and concept for comfort and safety are immerged with of Americans and Europeans in Boeing 787. We fly with JAL and ANA onboard one of many Dreamliners they own.
2024, we are having a rough start on land and at the airport. But we will be fine, again.
The 787 is an amazing Aircraft
Yes it is an amazing aircraft with GEnx engines and not with the problematic RR Trent 1000 engines.
Wanna know what’s better? An a350 😏
But it is old now
@@Akry_RBLXthere is no better aircraft. There is what fits the needs better of a specific operator. Every other speculation from people who are not pilots, mechanics, or engineers, is just unsubstantiated noise. I've worked on both Boeing and Airbus. Each one has their ups and downs.
@@Akry_RBLXBased on what? The 787 sold better rhan the A350, find out more..
Dang that looks so fancy! Exciting new chapter for Boeing's flying death box.
My first time on the Dreamliner was from Lusaka to Doha. Magnificent aircraft
Supercole
I have flown in every modern Boeing aircraft 727, to the 787, domestically and now mostly across the Pacific. They are all great aircraft, really like the B777, but my absolute favorite is the B787. The long distance trips are more comfortable and just feels great.
This is due, in part, to the lack any ferrous materials inside the cabin allowing for relative humidity to go from 8% to 30%. This has an obvious impact on long flights. Great airplane.
Well, put this way, finally the business world which is fueled, motivated and triggered primarily by greed and money making somehow learned to work together, which to me is a bigger miracle than the success of the dreamliner itself.
How complex is it to keep the doors from flying off??
When did a door fly off a 787?
@@lhk7006 it’s probably just a matter of time
Ask the diversity hires at spirit aerosystems?
they can't hire skilled staff with the amount of money they get from boeing. there are 2 companys here that have 0 sensitivity for human lives.@@Shotsmoky
Ask the Whistle blower… oh wait. 😮
I am a private pilot and will never forget my first flight on a 787, from Dallas To Cancun Mexico. First class was amazing, although I was not setting up there, we could see it . Maybe someday.
I hate sitting in a 3-together seating configuration like a 737.
A350 better
@@Akry_RBLXno. The market prefer the 787 (1900 orders) and the A350 (1100 order)
@@ndlben7129 They aren't direct competitor though. 777 is a closer match with the a350.
@@Akry_RBLXA350 still uses the old bleed system
If the plane is boeing, we ain't going
787 Dreamliner : 1901 orders !! The fastest selling aircraft in history!🎉
A350 is catching uo
@@Akry_RBLX
It has almost half as many orders, and has only been on the market two fewer years than the 787.
Catching up?
@@CongressSux1776the a350 family has 1.2k orders expected to reach 2k by 2030 and I know it’s 2 years younger but still boeing got a big head start by 2 years
@@CongressSux1776also forgot to mention, Airbus haven’t had a single issue with the a350 expect for qatar airways sooking about some paint falling off, and then we got boeing where they had a major issue forcing the aircraft to be grounded for 4 months.
@@Akry_RBLXwhy are you carrying water for Airbus? They don't pay you. You don't fly them, you don't fix them, you don't own one. You can't have a realistic opinion because you have no experience that is relevant to forming an opinion that holds actual relevance. All you can do is speculate. I've worked on both Boeing and Airbus. They are both equally capable aircraft with none being objectively better than the other. Just built for different segments within the market to attract certain customers. That's it.
I’ve flown on all three variants of the 787. It is truly a masterpiece. There were lots of problems in the initial buildup, but they absolutely delivered a stellar product.
...and now they know HOW TO do it. All future Boeing products will follow the 787 build book, and improve on it.
@@coolruehle LOL.
Rear 'unused' escape door flew off an Alaskan Airlines 737-900 MAX yesterday... 😂
Brand new plane, came into service this past October
@@yukonstriker1703 sh*t happens grow up
@@allen480 you consider a door randomly falling off a brand new aircraft as "sh*t happens"?
Time for you to wake up
@@yukonstriker1703 What is the significance of "unused?" Is that a good thing? Many people refer to planes as "she." She's a reliable old bird. Does used mean she's a dirty bird?
I was 10 when i first saw the brand new 747 at logan airport in Boston, i remember thinking, thats what an airplane should look like, the design is amazing.
😅😅 13:53 13:55
Dose it come with fully tightened bolts?
Absolutely. Although, it might come with fuselage gaps, so be careful there.
Depends on the DEI hired people....... Oh f*ck......
Boeing: what bolts?
@@gonenguldal5782 Why use bolts when you can use American DEI Made glue?
I flew on a Dreamliner for the first time a month ago, after having been on my first flight experience on a Boeing 707. It was beyond anything I experienced and beyond.
I also flew on a 787 for the first time early November
KLM to Atlanta
Yeah, probably that the 707 was far more comfortable!
At least the 707 had a designated smoking area and ash trays.
@@mipmipmipmipmip quit before it is too late!
Truly amazing company and personnel . God bless you, Boeing. You won WWII , carved American aviation into stone as a world power.
And now? 😂😂😂
Definitely an amazing company 👀
after some more docs. and info.. I'd rather fly on a Messerschmidt.
787 made up the lost of 747. 787 such a magnificent flying machine.
Wouldn’t that be 777?
The 777-9 is the closest to the 747 in capacity, the 787 is too small
My airline career is all Boeing (737/787/777), but most of my hours were in the 787. I just love it! Boeing has made such an incredible aircraft that delivers so much for its costumers, for the crew, for the passengers. The focus on comfort, the innovation of its system, the efficiency of its design, the reliability of its systems, makes it - in my opinion - the best airliners ever designed.
Who do you fly for?
The only reason I’m
Were or are?
Unfortunately, it appears Boeing cheaped out on the assembly / manufacture / QC
Had most of your hours been on 737..you wouldn't have lived long enough to share your story with us..with due respect
I am a private pilot, aviation history geek, software engineer and I worked many years for a well known global consulting firm. It seems obvious to me that Boeing, around the time it moved to Chicago, became the victim of a pervasive mentality in consulting that technical expertise is secondary in importance to project management.
787 is indeed a Dreamliner
Our very first international flight as an entire family was on the B787 Dreamliner, taking us from Cape Town to Doha.
I love the 787 Flew on JAL - best long haul flight in my experience. The plane is amazing. This is a good doc - very honest and transparent. Particularly towards the end...
Dont forget your parachute.
I wanted to hear from people who built this thing. Engineers. Technicians. Not executives.
They’re dangerous, though: they tend to tell the truth.
Boeing killed all their quality control engineers
Boeing didn’t, McDonnell Douglas did - following the merger. Boeing executives were replaced with McDonnell Douglas executives. MD, a company that historically prioritised profit over practice, took control of Boeing; a company that historically prioritised practice over profit.
Boeing today is McDonnell Douglas, not in name but in culture - the culture of financial engineering. Boeing as it once was in its prime, ceased to exist the day it was absorbed by MD.
This is my 3rd favorite Boeing plane aside from the 737, and 777 variants
When the prospect of developing a supersonic passenger aircraft was discussed, it was claimed it would be the world’s first such aircraft. I guess the Boeing navel gazers were so obsessed with their own little world that they ‘forgot’ about the Concorde. The latter existed. It wasn’t just an unrealized dream.
How many extra bolt holes does it take to put a Boeing jet together in South Carolina?
Great video, perhaps maybe show fuselage, wing and engine instalment at the beginning, showing paint will (for some) make it look like an auto body shop and the 787 is sooooo much more than other aircraft, never mind cars.
15 years of 787 Dreamliner in 2024
We learn from history and we are moving forward and helping stagnation to industry.
I have loved getting into 787. Have flown on it on multiple occasions. I have loved the tall ceiling, the adjustable shades in the windows, low engine noise in the cabin & the massive quiet engines with high bypass ratio.
I have also flown on the A350.. which is equally less noisy and comfortable.. But minus the large tint adjustable windows so unique to the B787.
Its not "bye pass" it is by pass"
Dont try to appear smart by writing about things you know nothing about, and another thing, high by pass ratio engines have been used for decades and not just on the 787, but almost all jets use them, but you already knew that because you are so smart.
Have been a flyer... Have been keeping in touch with flying and planes.. You don't have to snub me for a small spelling mistake.. Don't know what pleasure you get out of it
Te 787 is noisy to me. Has a whine constantly. Airbus is more comfortable i noticed
@@Jeff-sp7bg , Have travelled in both these aircrafts made with composites and latest fuel efficient engines.. but couldn't compare... Both were quieter compared to B737/A320..
@@shazash1”Bypass” not “By pass” 😂
The left gear collapsed when it hit another 737 MAX door plug,that fell off a few minutes earlier.
I Love the 787 Dreamliner. I traveled on it twice long haul and the experience was phenomenal. To me, it is the best aircraft ever built. I will always try to use it for any subsequent travel I may do in the future. Thanks Boeing.
Glad to be a part of this project and playing an important role
What was your job role
What role did you play and where?
he empties the used tampax in the lavatory @@mousepotato5267
Did u work on the Max too…. U know the Boeing death plane??
This is just beautiful, it is so beautiful.
Amazing the 787 can fly non stop from the UK to Australia 🌏
No it cannot really, only from perth. Qantas is purchasing a350s so it can actually fly from London to Sydney/Melbourne
@@Akry_RBLXIt's a niche market. The 787 Dreamliner meets 90% of the market
@@Akry_RBLX Do you ever stop trolling? How many flights is Qantas going to fly between London and Sydney/Melbourne every day? Exactly one to each city, so how many A-350s would they need for that?
Yes it's amazing but what's more amazing is they can cram so many people in that thing and how thin the seats are. Amazing
About 1. They both carry roughly the same amount of passengers.
Teacher : no paper planes in the class!
Kids in the back:
Love it❤. Especially the 787-10.
Boeing PR team really putting in work in the comments section
Boeing has descended to the quality level of GM / Ford / Chrysler-Stellantis
with all due respect sir, i have learned a lot about life and even philosophy as a result of my interest in aircraft and the challenges unique to aviation... a lot of which i owe to Boeing personally. i am just the sort of passenger who would consider an unnecessary stopover in a city somewhere a good thing 😆 fair enough though, most passengers don't see the same opportunities for efficient extraction of life experiences and opportunities as i do, and at the end of the day, it is a highly competitive business.
I use to love flying on the 747 a great plane I admit but I also flew 😅on the 787 and 777 I was not impressed which the 787 ! But very impress by the 777 ! Very powerful plane !
Loved this video. Travelled a couple of times in the DreamLiner. Hoping I can fly more in the 787!
If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going!
I will never forget the union-busting or Jedi mind tricks they played to squeeze a few dollars more out of around 1000 people dying in horror plane crashes.
1000 people? Where did you get that number?
This company is threat to aviation itself!
Interesting document o. how to build a new airplane in a revolutionary way where Boeing outsourced manufacturing in a scale never done before.Acting as system integrator mainly. Must amaze the challenge of logistics combined with quality control of scattered manufacturing and deliveries too. It was yruly bad planning miss, what happened with the wing design. What happened to those engineers respondible for the mistake? But they fixed it,3 yrs late, which both reputation and huge amount of money. But amazing procesd of re-design. Have fleen few times with Dreamliner, and it has been, although not any more the newest design, the most pleasant flying experience in many respects :breathing air, quietness, nice cabin design. And avoiding to land to big hubs, if heading elsewhere. ✈️. Love that plane. 👍
have seen the news lately?
Boeing, a company that values profits more than human lives.
Just like every other big corporation.
@@Jeff-sp7bgExcept other corporations do not put their faulty products 38 thousand feet in the air with innocent children!!
Cost of doing business … how much will it cost if we are caught
@@Jeff-sp7bg Boeing didn't used to be like that. They really didn't.
Total number of 747's built, 1547. Total A 380's built, 251. Airbus got caught up in fuselage envy. Still an amazing piece of engineering!
I wish Boeing success! The world is depending on you! ❤ We want you to soar!
We want them to be reliable.
Notice how Boeing isn't Made in America anymore?
Only the failure being the 737??.
Final assembly is up to Boeing.
Look up the documentary of the Georgia USA assembly Plant.
Low payed labour and drug use by employees
That comment aged well!!
This is a great story enforcing me to respectfully bow to life and humankind 🎯
Same as a lot of ppl, I love the 787 it’s a fantastic aircraft as far as I can tell.
Amazing n wonderful aviation project.
Congrats Boing.!
Airbus is number!
787 series are the best 👍💯
As an engineer, even though I worked on both Boeing and Airbus planes, I understand Airbus better and have a better feeling for it.
Awesome.
We have no competition and we are going to make it with easy ways
Imagine if these two giant companies were working together instead of competing with each other the final products will be sublime to say the least!
B707, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777 - the only one I haven’t flown-in as a passenger, is the 787. Looking forward to it soon!❤ I love Boeing aircraft!
How about the 720B?
I have enjoyed four episodes of the show so far, including this one. They have been both educational and entertaining. I do have one small comment, however. When the names and positions of the experts are displayed on the screen, it is only for a very short period. I find it difficult to read their names and positions before they disappear. To fully take in the information, I must either pause or replay the show. It would be helpful if the display lasted for at least 6-10 seconds. Nevertheless, keep up the great work, and I look forward to more rollouts of other episodes!
Boeing is the great company in aviation today
Amazing accomplishment. As a pilot of rhe 787, it's one of my favorite Boeings. Post trip recovery is night n day compared ro 767/777. Humidity n Pressure really help. It's also delightful quiet. Wish Boeing would have kept it in house for the build from the start They probably do to!
I've been on several Dreamliner flights so far. Since the economy section was designed to accommodate 2-4-2, I'm sorry to say that almost all airlines squeeze in 3-3-3. It's a very uncomfortable ride, despite it's considerable technological achievements. Nowadays, I buy a ticket in Premium Plus (United), but it's expensive and most people can't afford it.
Can't wait to get mine
Try a Max. They’ll be going cheap again soon.!!
Wonderful 👍👏👍👏
"Blowing whistles is fatal"
~Boeing, 2024
They never built their Sonic Cruiser but the spirit of the Sonic Cruiser lives on inside the Dreamliner
Aside from the wings the pylons the engines the fuselage the landing gear and the avionics… where did Boeing drop the ball with a perfectly good Ramp Sweeper
I took a flight on the Dreamliner early in its introduction, from LA to Houston. It was an amazing aircraft. But the computer glitches were scary. While taxiing and then as the plane was actually climbing into the sky, the pilot had to reset the computers a few times, and in the cabin this means computer screens and interior lighting would cycle through resets which was all kind of flickering of lights and screens. It was like a Disney light show. .. and I would still fly it any chance I can, airbus makes great planes, but the Dreamliner is just a great experience. If you go on vacation by Dreamliner, the vacation starts on the plane. All other planes just get you to the vacation spot.
The 787 was an exercise in outsourcing. It cost more than twice its predicted development budget, it was years late being launched and when it finally entered service it had safety issues that were so concerning that it was grounded pending resolution. Recently the FAA discovered issues with 787 manufacturing quality that delayed deliveries to customers until Boeing could put them right. Meanwhile Airbus built its competitor A350 aircraft largely in-house, on time, with a budget less than half that spent on the 787 and has had a flawless record of operation and production. The 787 development cost spiral, the fiasco of the 737 MAX MCAS and the massive delays to the 777X program has left scars on the confidence of Boeing management. I would not be surprised if successive management teams at Boeing milk as much money as they can out of its existing aircraft designs until the company has painted itself into a corner and is unable to finance the development of any new designs. Boeing once epitomised the ‘can do’ approach to aircraft development. No chest beating or bells and whistles Airbus is simply getting on and ‘doing it right’. Boeing has no excuses with vast amounts of tax payers money supporting its aviation design and materials R&D at NASA, a monopoly on supplying the US airforce contracts and preferential tax breaks from states in which it assembles its aircraft. Airbus has to cross every T and dot every i of a socialist European regulatory bureaucracy but the discipline of doing so has honed it into becoming the world’s largest aircraft manufacturer.
Right On
Beautiful Aircraft 😊
0:23 “You have to have an appetite for risk. That makes it exciting. Getting it done is the hard thing”….
Please bring back the 747 its the goated boeing aircraft.
Tremendous advancements is the true way of the future,to depend and rely on the consumer for the advancement process,would ultimately be futile to technology,let us not ever forget,very nice features,very modernistic,advancement towards an all in one space travel vehicle,using air flight to an advantage,and more customers wanting to fly more frequently
Mega technology beautiful
40:11 it becomes quite evident, however that Airbus was able to come up with the A350 at a much faster pace than Boeing. Boeing had to go through a very difficult phases, during the design of the prototype and the construction of the first aircraft, and the delivery of its first aircraft. Airbus had it much more smooth. The question is what made it easier for Airbus to do it.
The answer is the A-350 is not really a completely new design just has some composites mixed in and has about 30% less composite materials than the B-787. Thats the reason they can't touch the B-787 in performance or sales. Between the A-330 and the A-350 both only account for about 10% of the total sales of the B-787.
Airbus did not outsource the design like Boeing did.
Airbus does a lot more of the design and assembly work inhouse. Airbus has had a decentralized network of factories and supplier networks since its inception so they have more experience building planes in that manner. Also most of airbus's suppliers are located in Europe and not spread out around the world. Additionally the A350 uses a less complex design than the 787: smaller composite panels for the fuselage instead of entire sections of autoclaved fuselage, and a more "traditional" pneumatic bleed air system vs the 787's more advanced electrical bleedless system, just to name a few
@@gguerra375 The answer is ............ Boeing spent too much time re-branding the deadly 737. With a teeny tiny little 7, great big 3, great big 7 (that looks like a 2) Then adding a capitol "O." From a distance it looks like 320. Then maybe, just maybe, they can Jedi-Mind-Trick the public into thinking they are boarding a safe plane.
The composite fuselage is made from panels over a frame, not the mandrel method of boeing
Boeing had it coming, loss of JAL (Japan Airlines) as the sole brand/supplier. JAL did not change brands at the time of flight 123 crash probably because the options at the time were limited. That crash is memorable to anyone having any interest in commercials jets.
This is a classic story of team work. A good case study especially for Business Management students at postgraduate level.
Yes on how to ruin your company by failing in your core engineering competences
How many engineering whistleblowers have you killed you beancounter?
What a team 🫡
cool!
Great doc on a great plane… just wish it was a 5 parter like the 777 way back when.
That "5 parter" was so well done; it was made by PBS some 3 decades ago. Unfortunately, since then PBS has lost its way. But that's another story.
@@johnmasursky7717I didn’t know that about the doc, it’s a shame what happened to PBS. That doc was so in depth and interesting. It’s amazing how they followed the project from conception, development, testing, marketing to delivery / first flight. The narrator’s voice is also so well suited to it. I remember hearing his voice in some other docs and immediately recognized it.
It’s a beauty of an aircraft but it’s what’s under the hood that really counts..
See the story. This aircraft has had thousands of accidents worldwide. And with the door that came out this week, it's almost all kept up by these planes from the 1950s
Zero accidents and no door has come off
Boeing and its Workforce have always been amazing and always will be
The greatest stock shills in history
Love
A Solid Boeing!!
Fir a change
I love you boeing!
The most beautiful business class i ever flew.
Boeing’s lost its soul since MD came into the house.
Would have happened regardless, why do people keep hammering on this point over and over again? You can't keep building aircraft without looking at the costs in a market that keeps getting more and more competitive. It's great, as a designer, that you don't have to look at cost, or at how long it takes to design something, have unlimited iterations on something, but that doesn't work anymore in our modern world.
@@Hans-gb4mv Looking at the financial cost at the expense of quality, safety costs and human lives.
BTW, I fly the 777.
oh, look who watched the Netflix documentary lol.
anywho I wouldn't fly this frankenliner honestly. I don't like how so many critical components came from different manufacturers from over the world. even the fact we use feet and inches and the rest of the world uses metric means there's a chance for conversation errors
@@Hans-gb4mv Are you suggesting that before the MD buyout that Boeing just blew money left, right, and centre and didnt pay attention to costs?
@skeetrix5577 but that's literally how airbus builds their planes
It's amazing to realize that Boeing was regularly spanked by Douglas and Lockheed until the 707. Since then their reading of the "Tea Leaves" has been nothing short of phenomenal.
The Tea Leaves being market research folks. Boeing saw that the old Hub and Spoke setup was on it's way out and the need for gigantic jets to feed the hubs was dead. Airbus didn't and kept on with the then obsolescent 380.
Look over to the right and the yellow and red Dash 80 the progenitor of all airliners.
because the a350 is not a thing? sorry, I'd rather not risk my life. the reports from aircraft mechanics working on these finding manufacturing defects and many boeing employees who wouldn't fly on these aircraft themselfes disagree
Before I step foot on a 737 max 8… I pray lol.
Your such a timid person and full of fear-!
Gracias capi Layton , una vez más que buen vídeo y la información muy interesante , tu mencionaste en este vídeo el terminó:” fuel dumping” or tirar combustible , estaba pensando que sería buena idea que pudieras en alguna ocasión explicar a algunos de tus seguidores que no conocen lo que significa este termino, “ fuel dumping” o como funciona, muchas gracias y que tengas buen día capi.
I flew 6 years ago from Perth Australia to Abu Dhabi over Indian Ocean. Amazing aircraft .
"The Company's Whole Future Is At Stake" BMAX
You have to have brave person like us