Episode 6 - Ladies of the Willow World | FX's Shōgun: The Official Podcast

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  • A secret place of pleasures. Host Emily Yoshida and guests break down episode 6 of FX’s Shōgun. Featuring actor Anna Sawai "Mariko," associate producer & writer Caillin Puente, historian Frederik Cryns, and director Hiromi Kamata. Discover what it takes to film the series' most intimate scene, the meaning of honors and titles, and the on-screen moment so haunting that it entered Anna Sawai's dreams.
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    Join host and staff writer Emily Yoshida as she sits down with the creators, cast, and crew that brought Sengoku Period Japan to life. In this exclusive companion podcast, each episode will break down the twists and turns of the plot, the top-of-the-line craft behind the scenes, and the real-life history that informed it all.
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  • @FXNetworks
    @FXNetworks  Před 2 měsíci +31

    It's fascinating to hear how real-life experiences influence these performances.

    • @Adrian-ck2zh
      @Adrian-ck2zh Před 2 měsíci +5

      I would have loved to find out some more about the gestures during the tea ceremony negotiation...🙏

  • @mitchsn
    @mitchsn Před 2 měsíci +48

    Kiku sitting out of view so when Anjin turns, he only sees Mariko. She's a PRO.

    • @DS2
      @DS2 Před 2 měsíci +5

      YES! I couldn't believe they didn't talk about this more in the podcast

    • @SuperlunarNim
      @SuperlunarNim Před 2 měsíci +16

      This was my favorite scene, the blocking was wonderful. The complete subversion of expectations too, Anjin expects a "prostitute" but instead finds an incredibly insightful, considerate person who immediately identifies what he and Mariko actually want and doesn't hesitate to try and facilitate that in the most graceful way imaginable.

    • @hu3bman
      @hu3bman Před 2 měsíci +11

      Kiku legit read the thick atmosphere and tense romance between Mariko and Blackthorne and decided to be Mariko's winggirl unexpectedly 🤯

  • @MSeanMcManus
    @MSeanMcManus Před 2 měsíci +20

    The snake and the ogre-- how was that anecdote not included in the show!?! Such a great line.

  • @brandyandcream2
    @brandyandcream2 Před 2 měsíci +27

    Anna Sawai was phenomenal in this episode. Great actress

  • @Nicolas-uu3jr
    @Nicolas-uu3jr Před 2 měsíci +52

    "time to write another will" 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼Gold, GOLD!🏆🥇

    • @peteg475
      @peteg475 Před 2 měsíci +12

      A Yabushige sitcom might actually work. lol

    • @Nicolas-uu3jr
      @Nicolas-uu3jr Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@peteg475 the whole thing goes from quite serious to comedy..., I can't even describe how, but you know :)(like a samurai sword chop:), and it's original...

    • @peteg475
      @peteg475 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Nicolas-uu3jr "Everyone Hates Yabu" Episode 15: Yabu threatens annoying neighborhood skateboarding kid with being boiled in neighbor's swimming pool. He runs afoul of the Housing Authority and his Poker Night Buddies hatch a daring escape plan to spring him from County Jail. Hi-jinks ensue!

    • @mitchsn
      @mitchsn Před 2 měsíci +8

      I want to be able to read each will he writes!

    • @Nicolas-uu3jr
      @Nicolas-uu3jr Před 2 měsíci

      @@mitchsn 🤣👍

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer7697 Před 2 měsíci +104

    Shōgun just keeps raising the bar with each new episode. I appreciate this release format because I honestly think this is the best way to view incredible television, but I hate the idea of having to wait a week for the next episode. That ending has me ready to dive into the 3rd act of this incredible show. Yet another phenomenal episode! 👏🏽

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson Před 2 měsíci +1

      do you like it or do you not like it. bro. it's just striptease+eye rape, roll with it. and then touch some grass.

  • @rllght
    @rllght Před 2 měsíci +21

    This is definitely an episode of women's prowess! I'd like to bring attention to Ms. Yuka Kouri's stunning performance as Kiku the prostitude. The way she delievered "the speech" before inviting Blackthorne is so soothing and comforting, almost like a gentle, benign-looking hypnotism of the guest she is about to entertain. Ms. Kouri's portrayal really convinced me why she got this difficult role.

    • @theloniousm4337
      @theloniousm4337 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Being drop dead gorgeous didn't hurt either.

  • @yanassi
    @yanassi Před 2 měsíci +7

    I loved the arty touch at the willow house, where the courtesan disappeared behind mariko. The translated words became sensually offered to blackthorn, as if they originated from mariko.

  • @JeremyIceAndFire33
    @JeremyIceAndFire33 Před 2 měsíci +42

    This was a great episode. Ochiba brought an interesting dynamic to the power structure of the council. Loved the play as well.

  • @zdkygnofda
    @zdkygnofda Před 2 měsíci +25

    During this period, it was common for the daughters and sons of many feudal lords to marry for political reasons. Some of them later turned against each other, which shows how warlike this period was.
    In this period, Japan was a group of 68 countries with more than 300 feudal lords, and although the show makes it very simple, there were many battles and politics in each of them. Even today, there are statues, graves, and places related to the feudal lords in various places where they originated.
    It would be fun to visit such places when you travel in Japan.

    • @pranjalmishra4867
      @pranjalmishra4867 Před 2 měsíci +2

      This is the history of every single empire. Marriages were basically alliances to increase political clout and extend empire. It's been going on for thousands of years

  • @GamesbyMarcWolff
    @GamesbyMarcWolff Před 2 měsíci +6

    Thank you for making Cosmo watch Remains of the Day. That was the perfect directing choice.
    Everyone in that scene played it perfectly. It was so beautifully painful.
    I also caught your direction of all the characters in the morning after scene. Genius.

  • @darkempire2022
    @darkempire2022 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Absolutely obsessed with this epic show.

  • @danielfuglestad3440
    @danielfuglestad3440 Před 2 měsíci +10

    The “5’1 Club” anecdote to end this episode is just hilarious/iconic - absolutely love it

  • @dylanrodrigues
    @dylanrodrigues Před 2 měsíci +3

    Glad to see the director praise Fumi Nikaido's acting range. If you want more evidence of this, compare her acting as a terrifying, cold schemer in Shogun vs the shy, bumbling romantic heroine in Eye Love You.

  • @TheFlyingBrain.
    @TheFlyingBrain. Před měsícem

    This is without a doubt the best series to hit the stream in a long, long time. As others have said, it just keeps getting better with every episode. Congratulations to all of you who contributed to the making of this series, top to bottom, inside and out. A true work of art.

  • @eight2one
    @eight2one Před 2 měsíci +12

    excellent team for shogun tv series.. when people's talent deeply mixes and is bound to create the show.. thank you for sharing the skills and making us witness how things happen in the past.. love the show..

  • @Ed2Ki
    @Ed2Ki Před 2 měsíci +10

    real life lady ochiba is nobunaga's niece, not daughter right?

  • @AgentJJones
    @AgentJJones Před 2 měsíci +7

    I've watched every episode multiple times I love the dark theme the music the tones the bass in all the scenes the cannons sounds so sick I wish it had some more boom, this modern version of this show is what I envisioned it to be forever, I listened to every podcast every behind the scene, I know Batman approves, I have to many great things to say, the Masculinity, the colors, shout out to John Blackthorne I wish I could talk like that ok and I'm done

  • @MrAwesumo
    @MrAwesumo Před 2 měsíci +12

    I’m actually sad that this is a limited series

    • @JackMeoff46
      @JackMeoff46 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I think it’s better that way. So many resources went into the making of just 10 episodes…the end result was a masterpiece that will be remembered for years to come, I’m sure; not only because of its association with the novel, but because of its own merit as well.

    • @MrAwesumo
      @MrAwesumo Před 2 měsíci +1

      I actually wholeheartedly agree with you sometimes you make something really really good and it just needs to be a one and done. Especially because this is a historical fiction novel I understand one season I’m sure Shōgun will be remembered long after release and that’s all I could ask for but I guess I was getting greedy aha and I wanted more.

  • @MelMelx365
    @MelMelx365 Před měsícem +1

    The Tea House scene definitely was a moment

  • @mlm5150
    @mlm5150 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Another great episode! I will say, that I am enjoying the differences between the book and the changes they have made in this iteration. There were some that I was sad to see not included, but for the most part, it's been great. I was wondering how they would spin the tale of Ochiba hating Toranaga. Interesting way to do it! However, I do wonder if what the reason in the book will make an appearance in the show! Looking forward to it!

  • @skrible71
    @skrible71 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What a riveting and immersive piece of television Shogun has become. Definitely one of the best series in the last decade. We need more!

  • @JackMeoff46
    @JackMeoff46 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Bro mama-san is the most beautiful woman in this entire show. I will die on that hill. That pale make up, her smile, her black hair…just stunning and mystical in every aspect.

  • @mitchyG90210
    @mitchyG90210 Před 2 měsíci

    Fantastic interviews, i love listening to these every week. Especially in this episode the tea sea has such depth. . BTW at 18:40 in CC it has Caillin's name not Emily's

  • @KK-fi6ms
    @KK-fi6ms Před 2 měsíci +14

    Fuji had been stealing scenes from Anna Sawai. This episode, Anna took it all back.

    • @FatLVL
      @FatLVL Před 2 měsíci +6

      Only because Fuji wasn’t allowed to cook this episode lol

    • @BioluminescentTree
      @BioluminescentTree Před 2 měsíci +5

      It was Ochiba and Kiku for me. Magnetic.

    • @dylanrodrigues
      @dylanrodrigues Před 2 měsíci +5

      I mean Fuji's reaction shot itself was 🔥🔥

  • @reirei7086
    @reirei7086 Před měsícem

    Loving the show ❤

  • @junejasminedavis2275
    @junejasminedavis2275 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Loved the prayer together and the negotiations and

  • @diego1294
    @diego1294 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The greatest show in some time. Hope you make Musashi by eiji yoshikawa too. With the same level of shogun is going to be fantastic.

    • @JR_444
      @JR_444 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That is my dream project right there, to have Musashi retold in todays time with as much love as they gave to Shogun would be amazing

  • @jokersroom75
    @jokersroom75 Před 2 měsíci +14

    第6話 
    紅天じゃ!時はきた!震えましたねw神回です
    女の怨念というか執念というか恐ろしいものがあります
    しかし落ち葉の方もお菊も鞠子も衣装が美しくて演技が素晴らしい
    いやぁ、第6話素晴らしかった
    また1週間待たねばならんのかぁ...

  • @Hechicera86
    @Hechicera86 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks 👌💕💕💕👌💕💕💕

  • @RRlifer85
    @RRlifer85 Před měsícem

    This show is 🔥🔥🔥

  • @nameno-ic2xe
    @nameno-ic2xe Před 2 měsíci +5

    毎回話や演出が素晴らしいが、日本人としては今回の話は見ててとても辛かった。
    鞠子の夫の執着は彼女に愛情あるからだとは思ってたけど、ブラックソーンへの嫉妬や妬みで怒りを女にぶつけて殴る日本人男性の陰湿さや望んでも無い人へ無理やり気晴しに女をあてがう男性社会がこの時代から最近まで普通に行われてる事実に吐き気がする。

    • @KiDCRuDi_
      @KiDCRuDi_ Před 2 měsíci

      Wonderful observation, and very beautifully stated

  • @junejasminedavis2275
    @junejasminedavis2275 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The best episode so far… Amaizing work … I wish it never stops ..

  • @KK-fi6ms
    @KK-fi6ms Před 2 měsíci +4

    13:00 worth mentioning that Nobunaga was also her maternal uncle as well as cause of her father's death. Complicated family LOL.

  • @peteg475
    @peteg475 Před 2 měsíci +2

    How is this show so good?

  • @yanassi
    @yanassi Před 2 měsíci

    An interesting aspect of the relationship between ochiba and mariko was when ochiba said to mariko, i never understood you. I thought it was because mariko kept herself in the 8-fold fence. While ochiba was more open and obvious, even though she is conning and manipulative to men. It would seem mariko will always have the open hand if the two were to tangle as fate would have it. I think it will come to them being the most influential in this war that’s just begun. I think toranaga understands mariko’s talents.

  • @MarsIncorporated_
    @MarsIncorporated_ Před 2 měsíci +16

    I bet obicho is pretending to say attack Toranaga to make council destroy itself 3d chess style. The way she convinced that council leader by say9ng Toranaga was the planner of the assassination was dope manipulation

    • @MarsIncorporated_
      @MarsIncorporated_ Před 2 měsíci +17

      Also if 100 women and courtesan couldn't give taiko a baby, maybe he was infertile, so then who is the heirs real father?? Wicked writing

    • @MarsIncorporated_
      @MarsIncorporated_ Před 2 měsíci +9

      And it was nice of lady Kiku to recognize marikos feelings and offered to make the place dark to fulfill, even asked if she would join. But also I bet lady Kiku would tell that half bald dude that's jealous of anjin

    • @marijna6540
      @marijna6540 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@MarsIncorporated_ yes, i don't think the taiko is the real father. maybe it's toranaga

    • @predetor911
      @predetor911 Před 2 měsíci +7

      That explains why the Taikō said his son looks like his mother. Probably implying that he looks nothing like himself.

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@MarsIncorporated_ dude ur tripping. explain the elder lady arc

  • @tupufolasa1170
    @tupufolasa1170 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I really want Hatamoto to link up with his men again. I hope they’re still alive.

  • @user-yh1ph7ht9y
    @user-yh1ph7ht9y Před 2 měsíci

    بی نظیر این سریال

  • @wildreeds
    @wildreeds Před 2 měsíci

    👏👏👏

  • @Quinkerbell_3604
    @Quinkerbell_3604 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Was it traditional for brides to wear white at that time?

  • @user-qf5ti2hs5q
    @user-qf5ti2hs5q Před 2 měsíci

    Honnoji Incident(Akechi killed Oda(Kuroda) by the troops of 13,000) is one of the maximum mystery of Japanese history.
    There is another mystery.
    "Nikko Tosho-gu Shinto Shrine" (World Heritage Site) is the famous tourist spot .It's constructed as graveyard of Tokugawa Ieyasu(Toranaga) and it plays a role of guardian deity of the capital Tokyo(Edo) , and it's located in the due north of Tokyo (Japan has culture of vengeful spirit and feng shui(Chinese Astrology)).
    Another mystery is that there is the strange place name near the Nikko Tosho-gu.The name is "Akechi-daira(plain)"
    Why did Tokugawa Shogunate give the name of the traitor !?

  • @dolria1
    @dolria1 Před 2 měsíci

    So, Mariko's father, killed the taiko who was ochiba's husband, and he did sempoku on all her family and himself?

    • @caine8875
      @caine8875 Před 2 měsíci

      No. Mariko's father killed Taiko's boss, Lord Nobunaga at Honnoji (Honno Temple)
      Well, Mariko's father (Akechi) betrayed Nobunaga and attacked him, and Nobunaga committed Seppuku and killed himself denying Akechi he killed him (you can't fire me b/c I quit, ok that's not appropriate)
      And Taiko dropped everything and quickly killed Akechi (Mariko's father) to avenge Nobunaga..

  • @MC-us2ci
    @MC-us2ci Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why do you pronounce Mariko’s name incorrect?

  • @user-sn9qr8sw7l
    @user-sn9qr8sw7l Před 2 měsíci

    I hear Eve from Lucifer ... the softer voice

  • @lemiergnalag8310
    @lemiergnalag8310 Před 2 měsíci

    🤔👍❕️

  • @Eod.cloudy.lyrics
    @Eod.cloudy.lyrics Před 2 měsíci

    Joon

  • @greenfocus5236
    @greenfocus5236 Před 2 měsíci

    So what do you think?Was Mariko with blackthorne?Or was she with Kiko and they left Blackthorne to be alone?Or what happend?

    • @nectarpeach2853
      @nectarpeach2853 Před 2 měsíci +1

      What kind of question is this, did you not watch the episode? 😑🤡
      He went with Kiku

    • @maianikaido
      @maianikaido Před 2 měsíci +1

      It was Mariko who left Blackthorne with Kiku.

  • @siegejay6364
    @siegejay6364 Před 2 měsíci +3

    the play was boring i had to skip it a couple of times. other than that, i like the rest of the episode

  • @davydew1094
    @davydew1094 Před 2 měsíci +1

    These modern women. Relate with japan ??????

  • @AshleySchiavone
    @AshleySchiavone Před 2 měsíci

    The Japanese pronunciation of the characters names is atrocious. Did the narrator of this podcast even read the book?

  • @nowyouknow6023
    @nowyouknow6023 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Too many women focus on the last few eps..

    • @patrikneperfekta7575
      @patrikneperfekta7575 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Oh, didn't realize that. Now I know.

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson Před 2 měsíci +1

      uhu

    • @J_McPhearsom
      @J_McPhearsom Před 2 měsíci +6

      How dare they flesh out the female characters! Wahh 😢 ❄️

    • @ryder9401
      @ryder9401 Před 2 měsíci +13

      its ironic that your username is "now you know" yet you know so little about this show and it's fine points

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@J_McPhearsom gender gaslight to smokescreen the real conflict of class and wealth etc huh? gremlins can shut up and face the real truth for once. or ur a bot or u are a shill

  • @NC-hu3ti
    @NC-hu3ti Před 2 měsíci +1

    Have loved the episodes till now but this one was pretty disappointing. Such a strange deviation from the book, especially the tea house scene. Also, why is Mariko so depressed in the show? A lot of her strength came from her ability to take joy from life in the book, despite her past.
    Why is toranaga so dull and sombre too while the character in the book was quite lively and from what we know of tokugawa ieyasu, not a dull presence at all. Some great acting but the writing leaves a lot to be desired, especially considering how differently clavell wrote about these characters.

  • @bisuke35
    @bisuke35 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The last scene of this episode was extremely cheap and disappointing.
    The scene with the courtesan was also a cheap and unnecessary episode.

    • @eodyn7
      @eodyn7 Před 2 měsíci +40

      You are proof that people will complain about anything no matter how good.

    • @CRS327
      @CRS327 Před 2 měsíci

      uh? I worked on this show and this was by far one of the most expensive and ambitious episodes of the entire show. Maybe go watch "Saved by the bell", that might satisfy your needs.

    • @jpkiwi8744
      @jpkiwi8744 Před 2 měsíci

      Not it was very amazing.. The Japanese have a work..Haragei.. Tummy talk.. like words but they are not spoken, only felt..

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@eodyn7 "better mistake" if it is mistake can it be better? and better mistake than which? and who's mistake was it? comparing to what? you are a bot and he is a bot and this is a bot comment section and disappointment. i have spoken.

    • @wildreeds
      @wildreeds Před 2 měsíci

      @@lyrilljackson LMAO "i have spoken." Nobody cares stfu

  • @Ghost-kn9bd
    @Ghost-kn9bd Před 2 měsíci

    Every episode has been great so far but this one was straight garbage. Pretty much all filler until the last few parts of the episode. Don’t know why it’s getting so much praise

    • @jpkiwi8744
      @jpkiwi8744 Před 2 měsíci +16

      This was one of the best.. U just have no idea how little understanding you have about what this episode was about..

    • @Ghost-kn9bd
      @Ghost-kn9bd Před 2 měsíci

      @@jpkiwi8744 About stuff I couldn’t care less about. I want to see more of Toranaga and that plot line not what we got this episode

    • @J_McPhearsom
      @J_McPhearsom Před 2 měsíci +5

      It’s a setup episode. They’re setting up pieces and context before the big battle and finale. It’s pretty typical for the 3rd to last episode of any season to have a ‘slow’ pace, as they get you ready for the last 2 episodes that contain the most action, and they spend more time & money on. They’re trying to get the backstory out of the way.
      To some extent, i agree, this episode wasn’t as dense, interesting, or as dynamic compared to what they’ve done thus far.

    • @Ghost-kn9bd
      @Ghost-kn9bd Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@J_McPhearsom I’ve liked every episode so far but we had the build up and then the escalation with the cannon incident saying this means war, but then they didn’t follow up with it.
      The episode after that was still good but now for it to be dragged two episodes later focused on what we got, it’s disappointing and a waste imo. This was definitely the worst episode the John and mariko dynamic is really getting old with how much focus it gets over everything else.

    • @jpkiwi8744
      @jpkiwi8744 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Ghost-kn9bd Well its the little things we missed in life I guess..A bit like your grammar.

  • @cyb-m
    @cyb-m Před 2 měsíci

    i have stories like this to write from Kerala.

  • @Politicallyhomeless957
    @Politicallyhomeless957 Před 2 měsíci

    That was a massacre of the Tea House story compared to the book. All the romance and eroticism gone. So much was left out and it was so important for Blackthorne and Mariko’s relationship. That was a disappointment for me, it was a radical reinterpretation. Also the friendship with Omi and how he tried to apologize after. All cut.

  • @poopz
    @poopz Před 2 měsíci +5

    slow and boring

    • @Ghost-kn9bd
      @Ghost-kn9bd Před 2 měsíci

      Fr worst episode so far whole thing was a filler except the last parts of the episode

    • @patrikneperfekta7575
      @patrikneperfekta7575 Před 2 měsíci +18

      to a blind person, everything looks like nothing.

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson Před 2 měsíci +1

      fr

    • @poopz
      @poopz Před 2 měsíci

      @@patrikneperfekta7575oh how clever, you enjoy watching butter melt?