Nonduality, Consciousness, and Ending Suffering - Rupert Spira
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Rupert is one of the world’s leading teachers on the nondual understanding of consciousness and its application to improving our everyday quality of life. He gives talks internationally and has written several books, including: Being Myself, The Nature of Consciousness, and You Are The Happiness You Seek. In this conversation, you’ll learn:
- What the nondual understanding is and how it’s at the core of almost every religious or every spiritual tradition
- How understanding this simple idea can transform your felt experience of being in the world; helping you to feel more connected both internally and to everyone and everything in the world around you
- The pitfalls of seeking happiness in external things and why this almost always fails
- The practical implications of nonduality for the individual and society
And more.
You can learn more about Rupert’s work by visiting: www.rupertspira.com.
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From an early age, Rupert Spira was deeply interested in the nature of reality, beginning to meditate at the age of seventeen and studying the teachings of the classical Advaita Vedanta tradition over the next twenty years. In 1997 he met his teacher, Francis Lucille, who introduced him to the Direct Path teachings of Atmananda Krishna Menon and to Jean Klein and the Tantric tradition of Kashmir Shaivism. More importantly, Francis directly indicated to him the true nature of experience. Rupert lives in the UK and holds regular meetings and retreats in Europe and the US. You can learn more about his work at www.rupertspira.com.
3 Books Rupert Recommends Every Therapist Should Read:
- You are the Happiness You Seek - Rupert Spira: amzn.to/3VmUUhf
- Conscious is all - Peter Dziuban: amzn.to/3icDxBt
- Awareness and Tranquility - William Samuel: amzn.to/3Vf1czE
it's a really weird feeling looking at youtube comments and everyone is so nice, understanding and peaceful. thank you for this channel existing.
Yeah it's a pleasant change from normal social media comments sections 🙏😀
" I have heard about Lin Chi, a Zen master. As he was sitting one day in his hut someone came to see him. The man who came was angry. He may have been fighting with his wife or with his boss or something - but he was angry. He pushed open the door in anger, he threw down his shoes in anger and then he came, very respectfully, and bowed down to Lin Chi. Lin Chi said, “First go and ask forgiveness from the door and from the shoes.” The man must have looked at Lin Chi very strangely. There were other people also sitting there and they started laughing. Lin Chi said, “Stop!” and then said to the man, “If you don’t do it then leave. I will have nothing to do with you.” The man said, “It will look crazy to ask forgiveness from the shoes and from the door.” Lin Chi said, “It was not crazy when you expressed anger. Will it now be crazy? Everything has a consciousness. So you go, and unless the door forgives you, I am not going to allow you in.”
The man felt awkward but he had to go. Later on he became a monk himself and became enlightened. When he became enlightened, he related the whole anecdote and he said, “When I stood before the door, asking forgiveness, I felt awkward, foolish. But then I thought that if Lin Chi says so, there must be something in it. I trusted Lin Chi, so I thought that even if it was foolish do it. In the beginning whatsoever I was saying to the door was just superficial, artificial; but by and by I started to get warm. And Lin Chi was waiting and he said that he would watch. If the door forgave me, only then could I come in; otherwise I had to stay there until I had persuaded the door and the shoes to forgive me. By and by I became warm. I forgot that many people were looking. I forgot about Lin Chi - and then the concern became sincere and real. I started to feel the door and the shoes were changing their mood. And the moment I realized that the door and the shoes had changed and that they are feeling happy, Lin Chi immediately said that I could come. I had been forgiven.”
This incident became a transforming phenomenon in his life because for the first time he became aware that everything is really a crystallization of consciousness. If you cannot see it, it is because you are blind. If you cannot hear it, it is because you are deaf. There is nothing the matter with the things around you. Everything is condensed consciousness. The problem is with you - you are not open and sensitive.
This technique says, this consciousness exists as each being, and nothing else exists. Live with this notion. Be sensitive to this and wherever you move, move with this mind and this heart - that everything is consciousness and nothing else exists. Sooner or later, the world will change its face. Sooner or later, objects disappear and persons start appearing everywhere. Sooner or later, the whole world will be suddenly illumined and you will know that you were living in a world of dead things just because of your insensitivity. Otherwise everything is alive - not only alive, everything is conscious.
Everything deep down is nothing but consciousness. But if you leave it as a theory, if you believe in it as a theory, then nothing will happen. You will have to make it a way of life a style of life - behaving as if everything is conscious. In the beginning it will be an ‘as if’, and you will feel foolish, but if you can persist in your foolishness, and if you can dare to be foolish, soon the world will start revealing its mysteries."
Awesome story 🙏🙏🙏
Roy Schoeman a Jewish convert to Catholicism, describes his spiritual insight while walking in nature one morning and says he received the most spectacular grace of his life when from one moment to the next the curtain between earth and heaven disappeared .....`and I found myself knowingly in the presence of God. It was as though the physical world was a painted thin veil over the spiritual world. I was surprised that I could ever have not seen the spiritual world before, because it was so much more real and more concrete and substantial than the physical world that I just couldn't understand how I could ever have been blind to it.'
Ive had similar so can attest to it
You are very fortunate.
I love this comment and this unveiling of the knowingness of all things helps in relating to my Christian friends who have had a profound sudden connection to Jesus or God. If my conditioning had been one of Christianity I know I would have the experience of being in the presence of God, too.❤it’s all the same but by a different name
“Before we had this FELT understanding. We use the world in service of our happiness. After we had this understanding we use our Happiness in service of the world”.
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Beautifully said. Thank you.
Nice words but it's just describing being a mature functional adult. There are plenty of happy productive people who serve the world without having any kind of nondual understanding.
@@MichaelDamianPHDI agree. Mature adults who are considerate, self reflective and aware may just have an innate sense of what is "right" and may be less distracted by material or external distractions that could otherwise lead them down silly paths. Dunno, in new to this.
I woke up in the night with the word "nonduality" in my mind. I didn't know what that meant and planned I'd look it up in the morning. Of course, come morning, I had forgotten all about it, but I went on CZcams to watch something while my eating breakfast and there was this video. Mr. Spira explained the concept perfectly, and I'm going to the woods now to think about it. Perfect! Thank you.
Wow. Synchronicity as well
When you are ready, the teacher will appear!
Amazing. This consciousness shift transformed my life, bringing joy and peace, courage, virtue, compassion. Love of things that are good. Good luck on your adventure.
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Hmmm it’s my long standing belief that CZcams learns our algorithms not from us typing in the search bar but directly from our thought processes and extrapolating 😜❤
"Love is the absence of the sense of separation."
Love is what we are ❤
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& there is no reciprocated love in a realm absent of separation
Love is the absence of judgement
@@jrchristman8778 peace is the absence of judgement. Love is simultaneously escaping from disdain while approaching compassion.
Beautifully explained Rupert. May we all wake up for the benefit of all. ♥️🙏
A few days ago, I experienced peace for about 13 hours. There seemed to be no internal dialogue. This peace stayed with me while driving, practicing musical endeavors, connecting with friends. I was still "me" however this peace was so profound and over the last, maybe 30 minutes it seems I am moving back into it :)
Seek, and you will discover that you already are, therefore you will no longer desire to seek but now know that I am and that I’ve always been. Namaste 🙏 ❤🙌🏽✨
SIMPLY, CRYSTAL CLEAR😂😅. THIS IS WHAT I AM LOOKING TO SUDDENLY " REALIZE, NOW.". I ALREADY, ALWAYS.....AM/ IS. ME, MYSELF AND I AM/IS, BEING. SOMETHING IS SLIGHTLY BLOCKING MY FULL REALIZATION OF...... SELF AWARENESS. JUST TO MENTION THIS IS A HINT...." I AM, ALREADY THERE."😂😂😂😂😂😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️😳😳🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
"The world is real and also an illusion". I had heard this many a time in spiritual teachings, but Rupert explained it beautifully here.
Thanks to both the gentlemen in this video for moving the needle of raising the collective consciousness 🙏
Niall, delightful! Please keep it up. The softness of your voice is hypnotic. "My cup is overflowing", you said. Yours is indeed! I was reminded of the quest for the Holy Grial.
Rupert, thank you for synthesizing Eastern traditions into our Western culture. I had the impression you led me to grasp the Lord's commandment to "Love thy neighbour as thyself". For ever grateful. 😊
Thank you very much Neil for this interview with Mr. Rupert its so profound and excellent. It made me understand more about what is awareness.
Awareness is always the same. what I am aware of the content of the experience, thoughts, and feelings is changing.
The background is not affected by changes.
If one day I am depressed and the next day I am in Love the background stays the same.
Mr. Rupert's teaching is prophetic.
I hope I got some wisdom out of this magical interview.
With appreciation,
Salma
GREAT INTERVIEWER who distilled many of Rupert’s ideas in this one video. This young man is truly blessed already with knowledge and true understanding.
Literally beyond words
50 years ago I joined a church I saw myself in. The main teaching was awareness of your inward witness,and a walk and relationship with God in it. That’s where I found myself ,and have lived my next 55 years in.
Neil you are an incredible interviewer!! Thank you for bringing out the best in each speaker 🙏
I greatly appreciate the discussion of motivations. I was pondering this for the past couple of weeks.
Now I understand the motivation has shifted away from quelling the suffering in pursuit of happiness outside of self. Wow! Thank you!
What a great, intelligent interview.
One of the best and most clarifying explanations I have heard. With this I finally understand why Christ could say 'forgive them for they know not what they do'. Even when King Lear is so divorced from John Smith, that killing John Smith becomes 'holy to him -
John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God -
even behind all that, John Smith is still present in the other - but, on a spectrum, as far divorced from Self/King Lear, that killing John Smith appears Right / to 'lead to life /to lead to some type of righteousness / fulfilment ' for King Lear.
Pleasurable Oneness with all that is arising, is the best definition I know of. Or Already happiness with all that is arising. Adi Da
With this video now I get Robert Spira. Very insightful questions! Thank you.
I have just found this. What a joy this interview was. Thankyou both. Love, peace and blessings to you both.❤🌈
This is a profound revelation and clarity I so needed to hear presently. Thank you Rupert.
Niall, thank you so SO much for this interview. It was enchanting, i didn't knew Rupert Spira work. I found him fascinating. Weekend Uni (always) have amazing guests! Thank you so much for sharing this incredible content with us. Much love from Portugal
Rupert is lovely. I’m glad you found him.
Im finally starting to understand him.
It' is quite simple!
Thank you
You never studied Hindu pagan philosophy . He is new prophet of Hindu pagan philosophy
What a wonderfully rich interview. Thank you, Niall and Rupert, for sharing your insights into the nature of true Self. 🙏🏻
The "turning around" Rupert references in relation to the story of the prodigal son: In the scripture, it said, "He came to himself"! It was when he remembered who he is that everything shifted for him.
This is my favorite interview to date
Such a great clear & concise video, very important as something to get a hold of in a challenging time, great questions & outstanding Answers from Rupert & boy do we need it 😊
As a young adult, I struggled with the concept of reality. It seemed that there should only be one. I realized that I did not know my personal reality. That's where I decided to begin. If I could understand my own reality, then I could tackle the other worldly reality. Little did I realize that I could accomplish these two distinct realities.
I can only intuitively understand nonduality. I know it exists. Maybe it's too profound for most of us. ❤❤❤
Love It!❤ Thanks for sharing with us!!
Thank you very much for this interviev. It's clearing up so many aspekts of lives... in a tender way to speak of. The way Rupert Spira sets a different focos on ouer behavier gives me a very hopeful inner picture... I can do it... together yes, we can do it ... save this Planet ...the only home we have. ❤This beautiful home❤
Excellent example of John Smith, I got to know the real self by listening to this.
Great questions and dialogue with Rupert!
The interviewer has few words but direct on point. Thank you for this.
Very good explanation of self awareness
Speaking in religious terms, what is understood by enlightenment or achieving that PEACE and HAPPINESS is a GRACE that is given to us not in a mechanical way after practices,meditations,prayers and desires to achieve it, but I would almost say "miraculously" from above (UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUSNESS). That is why only some people, usually mystics and some people from the East, have achieved that GRACE. The rest of us human beings have to continue to desire it and investigate it and be lucky enough to receive that GRACE at some point in our existence.
This is such a good explanation of Non Duality, and what it offers to us, even in the context of actively living. Thank you!
And for mental health practitioners, The Clearing Process approach is as described here - dealing with thoughts and feelings, not by changing them, but they go in deeply into them, ultimately opening into the nature of what life really is
As a teacher of Spinoza and Gurdjieff works, that courage, enlightenment, and freedom from pain and suffering are possible when we understand the laws that influence our nature.
@@MichaelDamianPHD Michael, a PHD implies that you are accredited, educated in a agreeable format. If you haven't studied and understood Spinoza's Ethics, you'll never really understand the laws that influence and directs human nature. You erroneous believe in free will, as well as over 8billion people. Pain in a feeling of powerlessness, helplessness, and knowing what to do with our fear, being rejected, a loss, or a failure. We suffer because we are stuck with old confused thinking. It's possible with the aid of a journal, a pen and begin to factualize the events that trigger your emotions, pain and suffering will stop. This is not a permanent thing, this effort must be applied to every situation that causes us pain. Pain, in reality is not knowing how to deal with the problem before us.
@@MichaelDamianPHD It's obvious you do not understand the nature of man, even though you have a PHD. PHD means that you follow a teaching model that is limited with boundaries of beliefs and traditional thinking. If you read and understood Spinoza's Ethics, you will be able to grasp the reality of what I am communicating. Pain implies that our desire is not met or satisfied. Example: you are meeting a friend at a coffee shop, she never shows up. You will automatically fee pain. Pain is a feeling of powerlessness, helplessness, and the belief in free will. Freedom is when we understand the laws of our emotions.
Really really lovely 🥰! Thank you for this beautiful conversation! ❤
Great interview and brilliant questions. Thank you .
Brilliant conversation. Thank you for this.
Fantastic. Thank you so much. ❤️
Fantastic meeting of two great speakers..potentially life-changing stuff... Super!!!!!
ACT is amazing and blends well with Rupert's thoughts and analogies!
So we can still enjoy outer relationship, experience, substance etc for enjoyment sake as long as we don't think they will give us lasting happiness. I think I got that right? ❤
I arrived at the understanding that the way I experienced reality is the only way out of misery. I lost the love of my life in a traumatic death and once I realized the fact of his death could destroy me or not - that I had a choice in it - I experienced a peace “that defies all understanding”.
It’s not a permanent state but I can summon it.
In fact ,your eyes project your understanding and perceptions into your previous projections. Receiving back only the understanding of self they are looking for. All is as you see it. You,your eyes,are one with what you’re seeing.
Simple explanation of non duality ✅
Excellent discussion here!!!👍❤️
The allusion of the actor is brilliant. What a teaching vehicle ......Brovo, to you, Rupert.
Another wonderful conversation. I have ordered the book 'You Are The Happiness You Seek'. Thank you.
You yourself are an object to you,in the unknowing who you are.
Is the happiness you seek inside the understanding of who you are,the God you searched the world over was you yourself . I hear your happiness as contentment in knowing yourself the source of all that is. Proving your consciousness of what is,makes it. Thinking there’s no hope can’t mustard any,and finding yourself that hope,makes what wasn’t a world of hope. All is one,in the understanding of yourself as it. Duality is one without difference,you without the measure of another.
Thank you both.
Beautiful exploration 🌻 thank you for a lovely early 🌄
Really good interview Niall, thank you. Clear, concise and very helpful.
I've been an avid follower of Rupert for quite some time and, as a psychotherapist who's been trying to integrate psychotherapy with the Direct Path for years, I particularly appreciated your question which gave rise to Steve Hayes' concept of Psychological Flexibility; how we relate to our experience, thoughts and feelings rather than being entangled with them...which as Rupert says, is a half way point on our way back to remembering who we are.
Thank you very much....Rupert sir & team
Thank you! I will suggest that you put this conversation in chapters.
very well done thank you!
Wonderful interview ❤
Thank you for reminding me of my true nature
Love to hear Rupert, love this view, and really love this guy Niall's accent! I want to talk like that!
We have to transcend duality, both good and bad; to a state of non-attachment and non-aversion. Attachment and aversion are the bete noires; the dual modes, that take us out of our inner state of conscious awareness, unity, and peace.
The outer world is substance, ideas exist in our minds, so our interaction with the environment is a play of ideas on substance. Consciousness is within and without, mind is the intermediary that connects the inner and the outer.
Excellent!
Everything is your understanding alone. All that’s in your world is your definition of what and who they are. You don’t deal with mass,you deal with your thoughts alone,and what you think of them. Everyone’s looking is lost,because they seek the answers to questioning of themselves.
Wonderful duscussion, tank you!Ruth/Video person-
Light Grey makes Rupert look like he is quite ill & v elderly.!
I love this! Thank you for sharing!
What if someone has self-harming tendencies/habits (as most people today, if not almost all do)? Don’t we have to address this as well?
Knowing we are all one doesn’t change this.
The reality is that all humans do not know real love! They only have a fantasy of what love is. Furthermore, all parents do not love their children. This fact is typically where most people's problems originate!
53:56 well done, good interview!
1:30 non duality is not an experience but a Stable Disposition.
This was excellent!! I request interviewing Satpal Singh of the Nanak Naam channel on nonduality and spirituality
I suffer from unbearable accesses in my ear canals, leaning into the pain psychologically does help, it does require a lot of focus and attention which is limited. I can do it but maintaining that state for a long period of time is difficult.
Talk about what you love
Hear about what you escape
Hi. I listen to a lot of your amazing videos.. i think i start to understand /feel the idea . Thx. A question if i may : returning back "home" ...felling peacefull... - what is the content of that peacefull ? What is it "made" of ? Surly the Form of happiness/peacefullnes does not come with happyness nor peacefullness .because its only a form of.. Rather, one needs content of happyness/peacefullness... thank you a lot .
Very good, But I would add that "everything we know" is perceived through the functions of consciousness, thinking, feeling, sensing, and intuition, and the modes of perception, which are perception itself and judgement, aka discriminating consciousness. The modes of perception are at first like wearing orange ski goggles. We think what we are perceiving is "what is". The modes of perception are clouded and distorted by the wounds, complexes, and repressed instincts, emotions, and feelings, of the subtle body-mind. This distortion is further obscured by the false identifications of the ego. The ego goes through hell as it develops in life. We are told by a teacher or by abusive parents that we are "worthless" and the young developing ego identifies with being "worthless" and "unlovable". Nature/Being gave us a natural process called "spiritual awakening" and this process first purges and purifies the modes of perception and clears and heals the subtle body of the wounds, repressed energies, complexes, false identities, and etc. This process brings one from being a contracted, wounded, separate self sense ego to a unified Cosmic Soul Being. This is the first realization/actualization. Then the Soul discovers its non dual Oneness with Being itself. This does not negate the unique such-ness and Individuality of the Soul Person but enhances it and integrates it with Being Itself. One cannot bypass the painful Soul work. It is built into the fabric of our psyches and Reality itself. Non-dual does not negate Individuals, it heals them, expands them, and integrates them into the Wholeness of Being Itself. Until one achieves Soul Realization, which takes lifetimes, one cannot even begin to grasp non duality. But this teacher Rupert explains it very well and with clarity. Excellent!
I want to confirm what you are saying here. Unfortunately, for centuries, the egoic self has taken such a bad rap . And too much spirituality is about the "spiritual bypass" or "Peter Pan" spirituality. Thank you for recognizing that the ego goes through hell and that soul healing is a necessary process on the path. Over the years, I have found that being a "horse whisperer" to my own wounded psyche has helped me relax enough to experience non-dual states.
How can there be a reality independent of minds,when all is one. That would feed every thought we can’t be one without it. Every idea and plan is doomed,in its path in the midst of all it doubted in the making of the plan. A separation of one,because every path is yours to you. Awareness makes you feel better a in knowing,and doesn’t need your proving in your doubt ,in your mind.
I meant "propories ..such as peacefullness. Thx.
Asking for why,s is disrepectul for God yet it is only possible to ask the how,s. Love u and your program...thanks.
Truth pure, untainted.
Dear Roberto, what do you mean?
May be i finely got it : that passive medium can generate /produce peacefull because it is free from all content ... included "negative" one... ok . Thx !!!
The Virtuous Noble Lie of Love and the Trap of the Ocult Agreement of Consent
All materials and materials are manifestation of absolute consciousness /reality so their
If everyone is firmly established in his Self there should be no creation of our type at all. There will be no need for it to exist in our kind of world.
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The indescribable unity.
Waking up might be not the real issue... Not falling asleep again is the real challenge
Once conscious, one can never return to the unconscious state. Waking up does not equate to becoming conscious.
There truly is no comparison. However, one must become aware in order to realize that more is possible.
Rupert Spira found consciousness via Eastern Spirituality. The West's version is very different - it's through psychoanalysis. Yes, Rupert understands the Western approach. I had to reconstruct the Psychoanalytic process to suit my needs. If Rupert took 20 years, I would suggest that it took me 10 years after realizing where my psychological issues began.
I'd enjoy meeting and comparing notes with him, because he we definitely speak the same language.
Or How can a Medium ( awareness ) as for itself have atributes such as Peacefullness...happyness... Thx.
If Lear discovered he was John Smith, how would that have effected the complicated and difficult problems he had with his daughters and his kingdom?
Not sure what CZcams is up to but I can't see a way to save this video to watch later. No problem with other videos.
Ignore that - the facility has magically returned! :-)
Copy the link where you can share it
@@user-px4mp6lz3o I'm sorry, I don't quite understand your response. On my laptop, YT's screen was doing some odd changing about in size for a while and at one point the 3 little dots at the top right, under the video, had disappeared. But that seems to have stopped happening now and the 3 dots are back. Click on those, then 'Save' and 'Watch later'. I don't know anything about sharing it., but the 'Share' tab is next along, to the left of the 3 dots. Hope that helps! :-)
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I am God, and so are you. Where will we meet, i'll see through you.
Why doesn't he provide proof for the vedas from which his ideas are derived? Since what he has to say contradicts universal human experience the only authority they have is derived from those texts.
Yes. Vedanta/ Upanishads/ Bhagavad Gita _ Advaita Vedanta of Indian Philosophy has answer for everything.
I Am the Whole
I Am the Whole
I Am the Whole and
I Am not the Nothing
I Am Peace I Am Love
I Am the Fury and I Am the Rage
I Am the Lover CareGiver ❤️ 💚 💜
I Am the Fury that Veils the Sacred
From the UnConscious Hell ❤️
To the Conscious Hell 💚
Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜
Stay Awake Not Woke ❤️ 💚 💜
Just lie down and unhappily wait when you die happy that you got it😂
noumena: what is really "out there", the world. Phenomena: what our mind translates as to what is "out there" ala Immanuel Kant , German philosopher. And, time and space are subjective constructs of the brain to make sense of our experience. Kant again. 1724 - 1804
~ Creation
Creation demands suffering,
Suffering is the cost of creation.
Suffering seems to be glorious then eh?
Hmm, maybe seen in clear lenses.
Would you trade this dream for nothing?
I didn't choose to be here!
No, but now we all have to deal with you eh?
Futility comes to mind, except suffering isn't futile.
Life is suffering you say? Who are you?
I'm awareness. I'm consciousness. I'm, I'm......
Almost there. Almost nowhere. How am I not here,
and yet unfathomable here?
What am I? Poor soul. Don't you know?
You've always been. If a flower could only speak.
What would a flower say? Feel a pedal. Know thyself.
Soft isn't it? Light, free and perfection in wholeness.
Without the healthy Conflict Tension
There's no Evolution
Jordan Peterson and Rupert Spira shoukd do an episode together.
Self as context: steven hayes: ACT