Free for all right? They apparently did the work themselves and it looks like SH*T. The HOA rules create uniformity. Fix up the back yard and enjoy the hell out of it.
Nah, you can't move into an HOA neighborhood...sign all the dotted lines (there's TONS of lines to sign) and then complain when you disobey what you signed. She got rejected for her proposed lawn updates, and did it anyway. 1:40 "I had no idea had no control over my own yard." Yet, moved into an HOA neighborhood..... Not saying I agree with the HOA, as the yard looks great....but she signed up for this.
These Senior Citizens need to file charges through "Adult Protective Services" for "Mental Abuse Of A Vulnerable Adult" ×2. Maybe they will wise up and learn a little common sense if they are facing criminal charges and a possible jail time.
HOA needs to be demolished, they making money out off home owners; government needs to take action on this matter. We have government we don’t need HOA !!!!
I am a VP of an HOA and I agree! It is time for laws to be put in place. We make amendments to our covenants to go with realistic changes. Yes board members need to enforce the rules, but accommodations need to be made. But this is over the top.
What really needs to happen is HOA's need to not exist anymore. This is a free country and you should be able to put whatever improvements on your house that you want without any hassle or dictatorship from anyone. I hope this couple Sues HOA and wins.
You do understand that it's a free country and if people want to create a group of Home owners, and call it something like a Home owners Association. That everyone agrees to, and all sign a civil contract to follow the rules. They are FREE to do just that, and then enforce the rules when others in the community break those rules. This couple more then likely lost or settled this case out of court, as I can't find any info about it being 3 years old.
We don't really hear about the many benefits of HOAs, but it's stories like this that have caused me to take a hard pass. All it takes is for one little petty wannabe tyrant to ruin it for everybody.
@@spencers4121 Until you start barring purchase of said home without forcing said HOA onto a new owner. HOAs should be a choice but they aren't. The funny thing is HOAs are extremely unpopular it's why houses outside of HOAs have more value.
This is the craziest lawsuit I have ever heard about..the HOA does not own their home or the land it sits on. I could understand they're being a problem if there were cars parked everywhere rusting out & the grass growing up over the wheels... but to sue over a flower??? that is ridiculous. I certainly hope this couple & attorney, can make the HOA back down. obviously this Hoa has too much time on their hands. they need a real job!!
If they were a minority couple and 35 yrs old, there would be no sympathy for THEM. That yard looks tacky as hell and they didn't follow the rules. Everyone loves the HOA until it is THEM. You can do what YOU want when you live on acres of land in the middle of the country but NOT when you live amongst others that closely. Yes, it's YOUR house but it's OUR neighborhood so it MUST blend.
@@LuckyCharms777 I think she brought up race because it is believed by many that HOAs exist to discriminate against minorities. Redlining helped keep suburbia white. And in the very beginning, the first suburban neighborhoods to be developed actually had rules against races that weren’t white. With equal housing, and equal lending laws, suburbs started to get more diverse since segregation was finally illegal. Many racially insensitive areas welcomed HOAs as a way to harass riff raff away, since the belief is that they would lower their property values simply existing there. Some will have insane rules, like you can’t work on your car, or have a lawn more than 2 inches high, or have your trash out during the day, knowing that certain homeowners have to work on their car because they can’t afford to buy a brand new one every couple of years, or they work more than 40 hours, and can only mow on a certain day, and that day may already be raining, or they aren’t home to bring out/take in the trash because they don’t work 9-5 like their neighbors, and can only bring it out an hour early or bring in an hour later. The violation letters pile up until they give up and leave. The big issue is that it is extremely difficult in many areas to even find a neighborhood that DOESNT have an HOA. Most built this century have one. New real estate listings will actually have “NO HOA” written in the description as being a perk. Many towns that these HOAs exist in have ordinances that can be enforced when reported, such as unkept yard, junked vehicles, etc. All you have to do is call. No HOA needed. You spend half a million dollars on a house, you should be allowed to change your own oil, or bring out your trash can at 4pm. There’s one neighborhood a few towns over from mine who’s HOA put a lean on this one guys house because he parked a brand new F150 in his driveway. Apparently they actually had rules about what kind of vehicle could be seen. The Lincoln variant of the same truck would be acceptable, but not the Ford.
One of my deal breakers is HOA. Would never even bother looking at a property listed as part of one. In theory having some standards can be a positive idea but there’s just too much room for abuse. First in being over zealous with rules and enforcement and suing people for money (extortion) as here, then also constantly raising the fees, or taking fees but doing a shoddy job if at all on the services your supposed to get for them. In too many cases it turns into some kind of racket. Plus I want to garden or decorate the way I want to garden or decorate because it’s my property. That’s part of the plus of your own place so why would I want to give others the right to dictate what I can do on it?
They were repeatedly warned about their yard therefore have time to address it. But nope, they felt that mess in their front yard constituted landscaping. HOA's don't just start with litigation. They give every homeowner time to address the complaints.
The cost of housing why would you be in a place that tells you if you can fly a flag, can't work on your car, the color of your house, that you can't have flowers, if you're even allowed to have a pool or a fence Sure I'll live in a place like that if I get like a 30% discount LOL
@@michelfortier9563 HOA’s are rife with petty tyrants who like power and make up whatever rules they want, often based on ignorance. In Central FL a few years ago a couple was continuously harassed by their HOA for using a clothesline in the back yard for drying clothes. Apparently, this ‘potentially lowered property values’ for other homes in the area. There was no evidence to prove this, and seriously, so what if it did? The HOA didn’t pay the couple’s electricity bill (although this was done for environmental reasons) and sunlight is free.
Why? If they were a minority couple and 35 yrs old, there would be no sympathy for THEM. That yard looks tacky as hell and they didn't follow the rules. Everyone loves the HOA until it is THEM. You can do what YOU want when you live on acres of land in the middle of the country but NOT when you live amongst others that closely. Yes, it's YOUR house but it's OUR neighborhood so it MUST blend.
@@cleopatrajones2024 Seriously Cleo???? You’re really gonna insert the race card in a situation that doesn’t begin to apply? You got serious issues sweet cheeks!
@@ohcliff1030 race card? That term had been planned in your head. By your judgment I used the age card. Why did you not say that one? Sorry but true. As if you never read these comments.
So people should just be able to breach a contract with no repercussions? Imagine if the bank repossessed your car just because it wanted to despite you making all your payments. Should you have no legal recourse against them for violating the contract?
We need to ban HOAs. I was looking for a new home in Fort Worth area and its almost impossible to buy a new home that's not in an HOA. Banning them or reducing the number of them is the best solution. Also we need to reduce their power over the home owners.
I have a hoa free home near downtown austin. But i am looking for my next place. Austin is getting full of crap and more arriving daily! My next purchase most be once again hoa free and my next neighbor is at least five miles away deep in the country! I want to live quite and happy and not sitting in a prison cell for taking down a useless piece of crap planning how to make my life miserable.
I can't for the life of me understand why ANYONE would buy property in a HOA controlled area. To me these HOA's should be called BBA - Busy Body Associations. As the lady rightly pointed out, her and her husband 'paid' for their home & yet they're not allowed to do as they please within reason without having to ask permission first & having to pay to do so; just crazy. It's not as though the front garden is unkempt in any way, shape or form.
There are ppl out there who want to live a make believe perfect life style, in a perfect neighborhood, where all homes look exactly the same. Everything has too look like suburbia. Not a blade of grass out of place. It’s insane, I’m so lucky my parents bought this house with no hoa. Every house on our block is different at this point. Some have two floors, some are still single stories. Some are blue and red, or stone or siding! There’s one that even looks like a really nice old style cottage. Everyone minds there business here, and still we know each other. my dad will even do construction jobs for free for our neighbors who ask for help. I wish I could just buy a house in this same neighborhood.
@@melanie3247 Exactly. How on earth did anyone anywhere ever manage to cope throughout the 10,000 or so years of human civilisation without Busy Body Associations? Like you said, it's perfectly possible to be neighbourly without any of that nonsense. Hope you get to buy a house in the neighborhood you so beautifully described one day.
@@melanie3247 Be thankful you don't have a hoarder in the neighborhood, complete with intex pool, swingset, dog pens, 15 vehicles and a carport full of more junk and dog pens......
@@melanie3247 The hoarding issue is the other extreme of the HOA tyrants. These trashy hoarder types oppress you and hold you hostage in your own home without having to lift a finger.
@@reesedaniel5835 lol actually my neighbors mom is a hoarder, but they keep their front yard looking nicer than ours lol the inside of the house is a mess though. And technically we’re the neighbors with all the animals, although now we just have two chickens and 3 mini roosters (who sleeps inside a somewhat soundproof tiny house) so no morning wake up calls. Oh and an outdoor cat. Luckily our neighbors think they’re cute and enjoy the fresh eggs lmao. Very thankful so far, it’s good that most ppl have lived here for yearssss enough to know everyone else’s quirks and patterns
That's the only way to live. Free. I have 32 acres of land . I don't even need to get permits to do what I want to do with my land. It's mine.. all mine..
I have problems after problems with HOA where I bought a new house in a subdivision. I moved out to an area without HOA , and never been happier. Lesson learned , Not to buy where there's compulsory HOA.
@@deidrabrey4043 Until someone from the city moves in and becomes county trustee and starts demanding things that were never heard of in a rural area before. Been there seen it before.
My friends in Arizona are in an HOA regulated area where the board tried to tell them what colour blinds they could only use in their front window facing the street. When they pointed out their neighbors didn't have 'only allowed specific blinds colors' HOA said " oh they had theirs already installed before we initiated this new rule". It's gotten way out of hand.
We recently backed out of a home purchase because of the HOA rules; you can’t use your garage for ANYTHING OTHER THAN PARKING YOUR CARS! Not even storage!
Good, no one wants to come home and see people hanging in the garage all the time or leaving the garage door up and it looks like a hoarder lives there.
I just bought a 3.95 acre home 40 minutes away without an HOA. It has a septic tank, a well and propane heat but I do get high speed internet. I still have PTSD from years in successive HOAs.
@@dartheverstar9564 I see a homeowners association as communism, because if a person cannot make decisions about the very home they’ve “purchased” (such as paint color, where vehicles can be parked, etc.) without the express approval of some “Board”, then someone else is controlling their; 1. Property 2. Choices 3. That which they they have worked for The definition of communism includes “communal control”. Therefore an HOA falls into this category. We see in Plato’s “Republic”, that the “guardians” were to devote themselves to serving the interest of the entire community. 1. Who decides and chooses the guardians? 2. And what if someone disagrees with the guardians? With what is considered best for the community? We see that this erodes personal freedoms. Plato also stated that there must be sharing of material goods (this would include a home that a person has worked for and purchased) and also sharing of spouses and children. 1. Are you willing to open your home to others? 2. Are you willing to share your spouse/significant other/children? We see this same thought process with Sir Thomas Moore, with the Anabaptists, with the 17th Century “Diggers”, and the list goes on.
See, you find a solution therefore kudos to you. Instead of griping, people should do what you did and those of us who like deed restrictions can continue to live in harmony with like-minded people.
@@GodsSparrowSpeaks Since you once chose to live in an HOA community, that would make you a communist by your own definition. BTW, I'm fervently anti-communist.
HOA is one of the most stupid thing! When I got my house one of the first thing I told my realtor no HOA. She told me smart man! I told her it’s enough of paying my house mortgage and property taxes and obeying the stupid city codes to have a idiot in a office trying to figure out what to do to ruin somebody’s dream. I most likely ended up in jail because I will not tolerate any crap coming out of a HOA!
My mother had to take down her house numbers we kids had specifically had made with a ceramic background .. it was beautiful but not allowed. She also had to remove the outdoor tiles we had laid on her front small front porch. Not allowed. And that wasn’t the end of it. There was always something.
@@leslieollerhead1114 , Tell your mom to run for board members and go door to door to garner support ( talked to people first and see whether they have the same mindset ). I did just that, to beat them at their own game and run out those dictators in 1 year.
I had to sell my hoa townhome and move to a 1 family, because we just could not imagine their hoa power before we bought in, and they made us very unhappy with their constant picking on us... we've called them "hoa nazies"... "we cannot allow blueberry bushes, because the birds will poop purple on our sidewalks" - really? 🤣
Bottom line: when you move into a neighborhood with an HOA, you agree to abide by the rules. Read the rules, read the fine print. If it sounds too strict, don't move there in the first place. Get yourself on the board so you can keep track of anything going on with the HOA. Personally, I won't consider any place with an HOA.
This is happening all across the country.We were fined up to 1500. for what the hoa said we didn't have enough mulch on the side of one of our flower beds.The crazy thing is that we have been doing the same thing for 10 years,and have won yard of the month many times.We are getting ready to sue the hoa.
@@muffintop420 They do have legal authority bc its given to them in the signed contact unfortunately. They can even put a lien on someone's house and sell it if they own fines, its insane.
There are plenty of neighborhoods without HOA’s. They give you the entire rule book before you move in. Why would you agree to move there if you didn’t want the rules?
@@user-uf9xj3wg9h I live in a HOA community that has a common pool, tennis courts, kids play ground, stocked fishing ponds and canoe launch. What we don’t have is cars on blocks, trailers and Boats parked in the yard, and unkept lawns.
As someone from the UK this whole story is baffling. If they own home how does anyone have the right to tell them what they can and can't do it? Unless it is massively impacting or detrimental to someone else?
I have heard worse things. Trees being cut down in the backyard! when homeowners arent home. They were litterly on the back property line where a bussy road was you could not even see them from the front. Being find after a huricane, because your pool screen blew away and you haven't had time to have it settled with insurance let alone replace it at your own cost. Drying your cloths out side.. big no no. It is crazy stuff to most Europeans, litterly no one cares what you do in your yard as long as it is not a health hazzard to the rest of the neighbourhood.
The same happened to my Mother - in South Africa . She wasn't allowed to paint her house a different shade of white nor were she allowed to make her garden the way she wanted. She eventually lost as in the contract the HOA had the final legal say. She ended up selling her home and bought a loose standing house that were not a part of any HOA where she could do what she wanted. I personally do not like these retirement villages - way too many hidden rules with little freedom
I would never, in a million years , move into an area that is overseen by an HOA. It's fkn ridiculous some of the rules they have! I honestly believe they put these rules in place , just waiting for someone to make a mistake so the can sue the hell out of people and deepen their pockets!! What a joke. I hope this retired couple wins!!
I have lived in two places that have been governed by HOA rules. The first time I was a renter, so none of the responsibility was mine. The owner never came to us to complain about anything, so I guess we were never doing anything that violated the rules. The second time we were owners of the house in an HOA neighborhood, and the president of the HOA was very accommodating to homeowners, and she was willing to work with people who were violating the rules; parking on the narrow streets was the main problem. But I have heard and read on numerous occasions about some some of the horror stories people have concerning their HOA experiences, and I have vowed never to live in an HOA community again. By buying a house in one of these areas, you just signed onto an agreement stating you will abide by the rules. You should ALWAYS read the rules before you sign on the dotted line, because there is nearly always a HOA Nazi on the board.
That’s what happens when you live in HOA. I feel badly for them, this is unfortunately what they signed up for, being told what to do with their own home.
Smacks to me of another HOA trying to steal a house from a senior couple who might be tired and may be easily forced off their property at a loss. 100% loss.
If a person wanted to paint their house florescent orange the HOA would be right in stopping them and this couple would agree. Is there a difference ? Rules are in place for a reason both small and extreme. Why do so many people think rules don't apply anymore ?
I learned the hard way. I installed a back door that was four times more expensive (and much nicer) than what the association called for. I ended up having to paint a beautiful solid wood door before they would allow it. Get educated on what power and requirements the hoa has before you move in. For me, never again!
Deb Schwer, what were they doing in your backyard? I thought they could only see and do from the public sidewalk. I never will live where I have to ask or get approval. I don’t live with my parents
I know exactly what an HOA is. Not just one neighborhood but 3 different neighborhoods. They are all the same, control freaks. I sold my home and I wasn’t in a HOA neighborhood and tripled my money. I know people who sold and made good money, they weren’t in HOA. You choose to live where someone is dictating to you what you can and can’t do or be fined. Hope your happy where you are
This is an older couple who was probably not familiar with HOA’s. Before they signed the contract, it should become standard practice with the elderly to insure they understand everything involved in living in a HOA, even though it is probably in writing. I feel that they should be given some slack. I work with the elderly and know how confusing these “new” things can be for them.
My husband and I had a person stop at our house going door to door a few years ago wanting to have residents sign a petition to enact an HOA in our neighborhood. Our home and neighbors homes were built in the 1950’s. No way anyone wanted to sign that piece of BS to be told you can’t do anything to your own property anymore. We told them to kick rocks and never come back.
And the fun part of that is even if they did enact a HOA, everyone who didn't sign up would have their property grandfathered. So it ultimately wouldn't matter anyway.
This is EXACTLY why when we bought our home, we made SURE it was NOT a required HOA. There is one, but we do NOT have to join. Most of our neighbors don’t like us because we do what we want - after all, we are paying for it all.
The HOA is looking for some more money, and they’ll do whatever they can to get whatever they can-including harassing retired folks over a few flowers! 🤦♂️ What stupidity!
Some people are tyrants and bullies. Unfortunately, these type people like to be in positions of power. I lived for 14 years under this very hoa rule and my heart goes out to this elderly couple! I moved a few years ago and will never again sign away any part of my home ownership to the potentially corrupt agenda of the hoa.
HOA’s are selective who they want to harass. I have had letters complaining because my Bermuda grass was going to seed. I have NO grass, only shrubbery, trees and mulch, almost all native vegetation. One of my blooming shrubs flopped onto my driveway within my yard and I was told that I had to cut it down because it wasn’t attractive. The house across the street had new owners who removed the shrubs and grass and had bare dirt and weeds for over 2 years. Many people including children would stop and watch the butterflies and admire the blooms in my yard and I pointed out that the one across the street wasn’t very attractive. I was told that I had to prune my oak so that there were no branches that were lower than my 2 story roof but all of the ones on not just my block but the entire neighborhood had branches occluding even one story homes. They told me that I had to remove the weeds and I pointed out that the city water board had a rebate program and every plant in my yard was in there xeriscape recommendation and actually paid for most of them. You have power hungry people who don’t like people to stand up to their edicts and point out that they are wrong.
These narcissistic serpents were plainly targeting and Scapegoating you. They get great pleasure doing that to people they envy. They don't care about the low vibrational trashy types that have dirt and weeds in their yards. That's not what this is about 😁 The devil has his little minions all over the place, sent out to target, harrass, persecute and cause misery to God's people. If they don't target you with this parasitical "HOA" group, you will end up with a family of hoarders next to you, drastically reducing your quality of life and your property value. If you want to move, you will have to practically give it away because of these trashy people in the house beside you. Or you just stay and endure the eye sore, coming and going.
@Patrick Baptist When I moved in 33 years ago, the HOA wasn’t the entity that it is now. The community was largely undeveloped and neighbors were friendly. When a few people decide to overstep their boundaries and attack people who don’t drive the car they like or assert their supposed power it becomes a nightmare. A neighbor moved in and within 5 days received a letter with 8 nonsense infractions including someone’s expired inspection sticker for a car parked on their driveway, it isn’t what it used to be. Another neighbor rented a room and a car with no license plates, no inspection sticker, missing window and didn’t move for 2 weeks parked on the public street they ignore because that homeowner is on the board. We weren’t in the city and over the years the city grew and eventually annexed our neighborhood of half to 4 acre sized lots. The newer neighborhoods are mostly gated communities with small lots and the issues that I see on Nextdoor are horrendous. The purpose is to support the covenants that are on your deed. Keeping your yard ‘neat and clean’ isn’t supposed to have yards scrutinized by opinionated residents who purport to be the harbinger of taste and target people who they dislike. 33 years ago HOA’s were just starting and nobody could foresee the entity that they have become. When a few power hungry people take control and most residents don’t go to meetings and have no idea what is happening to some, then change doesn’t happen. Mine started because they didn’t like the older Suburban that I had when someone moved in and then escalated to vandalism to my property. To continue for 20 years is a sign of mental illness and they would have still targeted people without an HOA.
I cannot wait to be free of HOA. I came from a small town where that just wasn't an issue. Where I come from no one would dream of telling you what to do with your home much less suing over flower beds. To not even have the integrity to come speak with the homeowners to try and resolve this says it is cowardly money hungry little people with too much power.
The majority of new Residential Planned Developments are being built as deed restricted communities. The HOA is used to enforce the deed restrictions. It is the buyer's responsibility to read all documents at closing but most people don't.
I rented a place that had HOA regulation. Seriously, HOA is demon. Even the landlord told me that she could not sale the property bc no one interested in buying. She paid lots of fees n when I rented her place my balcony had only a broomstick. They fine us for that. Also parking too. We had motorcycle and a sedan. They fit in the space n it was fine. Then one beautiful day they sent us a letter saying the new regulation just started n we could park only either a sedan or a motorcycle. We have to rent an extra space from them to park the other vehicle. They are very quick at catching tenants. One time i was bringing my grocery bags from my car n left them in front of my door just to walk back to my car to get something else. I got a fine within less than 3 min. Idk who the hell able to snap pic of the grocery bags and assuming we left them there along time. I knew who was that person (she was a part of the HOA committee) and she saw us loading our groceries bags from the car. Ppl live there hates these HOA. We often got fines for things like that. No more HOA in my life.
My wife n I lived in lago mar for 3 yrs, we were one of the first residents to pick a lot and build with gehan homes, the builders were fine but it was the HOA and obviously taxes that got insanely ridiculous so we sold our house and after 10 months some people bought it....glad to be out! Now the new owners can deal with it. HOA sucks!!!
I lived in a hoa once. Never again, not even for free. I think it’s unconstitutional. I took care of a lady once through hospice that had an hoa. Her garage had no place for us to park so every day she got hit with an $800 fine because we had to park in her driveway. This happened for over a month.
We got into one because they had no signage, and the homeowners lied about it, and the realtor didn't correct them. Would have been a deal breaker. We're pretty rural and it's not as horrible as there's. But, we also oconsider them unconstitutional. People scream about communism or Nazis and that's what they amount to. I don't want to hear any complaining about govt. By anyone who approves of HOA's.
Just don't pay, HOA's really don't have much power. I lived in a building where a guy put in floors that weren't approved. The HOA threatened him and sent fines. He just said no I'm not replacing it, nothing ever happened and it went on for years. I think he eventually sold it.
State laws need to be passed that allow homeowners the option to cancel their membership any time the homeowner chooses to do so. If HOAs and POAs are as wonderful as their lobbyists claim, they should be able to survive on a voluntary basis. Of Course anybody with more than three brain cells would drop out immediately which is why the HOAs and POAs require lobbyists bribing lawmakers to make these extortion rackets mandatory and not voluntary. PHD
I don't feel sorry for anyone in a HOA. The rules are clearly written and you join these organizations for the strict guidelines. I also want to state, most towns and cities have landscaping standards. Property ownership doesn't entitle you to do whatever you want--our ancestors literally fled Europe to get away from that system.
HOAs need the majority of homeowners in that neighborhood, to vote yes, on whether or not there is an HOA. If you check the records most HOAs are illegally formed with only about 25 percent of the neighborhood votes. Most township, and City organisers don't check because an HOA means higher land, and school TAXES.
Ours was set up by the developer, then we took it over after we had enough homes... then the officers decided to hire an outside entity to 'Manage' it.. and now its getting out of countrol.
When people say “I would never live in an hoa” where do you live/ find homes, and have you looked in the last 5 years? I have yet to find hardly any home in/near town that doesn’t have an hoa.
@@citticat2 They can't change policies unless there is a certain percentage of homeowners approval and then the lawyers are involved as well. It's a process. I'm on the board of ours and it's a lot of work to even add what the homeowners wants. People don't respond to get the percentage needed to add what they said they wanted. It's just not a simple process
@@citticat2 I revisited some neighborhoods where I was looking to purchase and I'm so glad I didn't. They had HOA but voted it out. Now the neighborhoods look so different. It would've looked so much better if they would've kept the HOA. I would never think of buying a house there now.
"I feel like I have no freedom here, we have to do what they want"... Did she not read the fine print? That's exactly what an HOA is all about and why I will live in my car before I ever have an HOA telling me what to do. My realtor knows that I don't care how much she thinks I would love the house, or how low the price... If it has an HOA she'd better not show it to me or she's going to be one client lighter. I will bend on a lot of things but having an HOA run my life is not one of them. A friend of mine was actually fine for having the wrong color curtains in her front window... Are you kidding me?
HOA is another form of control. I never did understand why someone would buy a house and then have to get permission to plant flowers in the front yard. Or be told what color shutters I can have. Mind blowing
I think HOAs should be able say home owners have to keep up their property and keep it mown and clean but they shouldn't be able to tell them how to plant flowers or anything else.
Not sure how it works in other places but here the counties have codes for length of grass, fence & shed placement, # of animals & what kind, etc. The county codes supercede the HOA by-laws. To me, that makes the HOA rules moot. Also, here, covenants/HOA regulations last for a finite period of time. If they aren't refiled with the county after that period they are no longer enforceable. The residents vote on whether to keep the covenants on the books. P.S. However, that doesn't keep the HOA officers from acting like jerks, trying to intimidate residents, reporting insignificant or imagined infractions to code enforcement, just trying to throw their weight around to make life miserable for others. Do I want a rooster as my alarm clock? NO! Do I want to see neighbors parking a bunch of cars/boats/RVs on their lawn? No! DO I want to look at a rotted out garage door or overgrown lawns & shrubs? No! It's pretty inexpensive & fairly easy to take out a lien on someone's property & there's always the lawyer-route IF going & talking in a neighborly, kind way doesn't work. Think about it long & hard before buying a home where there's an HOA in the picture! With an HOA you may end up paying big bucks to an organization that will end up making your existence hell on earth. I'd rather hear the rooster, look at the rotten garage door & vehicles parked on the lawn! There's always code enforcement if a neighborly chat fails. Good luck out there!
There are too many flower beds and parts of the grass were dead. It was basically a MESS. My dad has a tendancy of doing this too. This happens when you do a little bit at a time without a plan from the beginning. It's very ORGANIC.
Never buy a home/condo/townhouse that makes you pay a monthly HOA fee. It always goes up and you will hate the cost. Think what you could do if you saved that money.
It’s because they don’t have good board members. I’ve seen a lot communities looks nice with a low HOA fee. It’s hard for the board members to change the fee but if they look into it it’s still doable
We have HOA rep crueling tormenting us as well. We have been here 20 years, but he under 2 years decided he can do what he wants (RV/truck larked on front yard/take easement for personal use/no permit for fence)... he put up the fence on property line while we where at work. It sucks.
I will bet that when they were looking at the house to buy they either were not informed of the HOA’s existence, had no knowledge of the negative side of HOA, or they were only informed of the positive aspects of having an HOA. I find this kind of HOA activity, even if it is legal, to be morally reprehensible.
One reason I swore years ago, I would never own a home that had an HOA. When I was selling real estate, I even warned clients about them....and this was 30yrs ago. They have only gotten worse. 😝
Nuts..I’d tell to shove it… The more I hear about HOAs the more I know I’d never buy a house with HOA. My daughter bought a 600,000 house in a relatively moderate neighborhood. HOA member walks around neighborhood looking for infractions. There was confusion about extending a concrete drive to accommodate parking. I couldn’t believe they actually expected him to remove it after discovering it extended 2” larger than approved. They ignored notices after speaking with board until the tyrant moved away. Glad I live in country where my property is my property, for the most part.
Seems they are usually less but the home will be older. People jump through all these hoops just to maybe share a pool and a clubhouse. I dont get it lol The places going up across the street doesn't even have amenities. These people are paying to literally live on top of each other. They don't even have grass on their lawns just the red clay that stains everything🤦🏾♀️ Ill gladly stay on my side in my 30 tear old house with a couple acres between my neighbors and I.
Playing devil’s advocate here. They are the ones that bought the house in an HOA neighborhood. When we bought our retirement home. Told the realtor NO HOAs. No matter how nice the house is, it’s not worth the HOA.
@@lidiapietrusza5014 I think you can decide to be part of it though. I believe it's a contractual agreement. If they decide to establish one later she won't have to sign the contract agreeing to their terms.
Stop playing devil's advocate; its unproductive, makes you sound like you can only understand things from your own perspective and just want to boast. Not everyone knows how manipulative and strenuous HOAs can be.
@@tarabooartarmy3654 yes they make it sound nice and safe and a good investment for your home but they limit arbitrarily what u can do to the property. I heard of one that only want residents to drive a certain color and type of car
My HOA and management company in San Antonio did the same thing to me. They wouldn't tell me what they wanted me to do and then they said they were going to come in and tear out everything in my yard and put grass in. I hired a lawyer and the lawyer said they are not to trespass into my yard and they're not to do anything are they will pay for multiple lawyers and be sued. They grandfathered my yard in and left me alone after that but it was an evil fight.
Same thing happened to me. HOA was sending me letters saying I owe 10k in HOA fees. I sent them a certified letter saying I am not part of the HOA. Sent them a deed saying my property is not on the HOA line. They tried to foreclosure on my property. I counter sued HOA didn't want to pay me and were filing appeals. Since my attorney had foreclosure attorney's working at their law firm they put up the HOA on foreclosure. We went to their club house and we started taking stuff out. They were scared just like what happened to Bank Of America. They were lucky since we didn't have news crews.
HOA's are unfair!! I lived in the Kingwood area of Houston & my HOA sent me threatening letters over & over about my yard which looked fine! (I had a professional yard crew that came twice a month) But to make them happy, I spent $1600.00+ re-mulching my yard & adding more plants/flowers as requested. They were still NOT happy & sent more threats! After several frustrating years with them I decided to sell my home & move!
@@rockerrockstar The HOA should have sued the homeowner for choosing to buy in the HOA in the first place. If you don't like rules, HOAs are *not* for you!
@@DemPilafian Sounds like the "rules" get made up as they go and these HOAs are being over run with tyrannical types (narcissists) on a power trip. The adult versions of the bullies from high school. They don't care if you follow the rules, they keep moving the goal post because they get pleasure from making people jump thru hoops (just like the govt).
@@newax_productions2069 Really? Which article of the Constitution? To be unconstitutional there has to be a *specific violation* and not just some fuzzy sense that your personal opinions are hurt.
@@tarabooartarmy3654 Guess not because people couldn't rent or sell their condos, so the kicked out the board members and painted the condos the original color. Big $$ People live there for beauty, not trailer trash.
If their home value didn’t go down , there were no “damages”. I went round and round with new management years ago. I let them know i would sue THEM and win, and would get counsel if they didn’t stop the nonsense. I was really mad. They said they preferred just shrubs! No perennial gardens. I told them to bites me. They are trying to harass them. They know they can’t win that case, legally. They need someone on their side who will take on this HOA. My value went UP when I put in a perennial bed out front. In fact it went up big time. This has to stop. Atlleast they didnt put their rose bushes in painted tires like we did growing up! 😆
HOA is disgraceful. They need to have laws put into place to prevent them from doing this. This type of shake down is an abuse of power. My step brother got into hot water with the HOA because he painted his front door blue. The HOA said he would be fined every day the door was blue. He eventually changed it, but was very unhappy that as a homeowner, he had almost no say about his own property. More people should be informed and shouldn't be so willing to sign into these types of policies.
I was the bane of my toothless HOA for nearly 30 years. Their rules were so flimsy that as long as I paid their paltry dues there was nothing they could do. I planted what I wanted, where I wanted, and turned my yard into a pollinator haven. Now I live on my rural experimental acre without an HOA and have turned a hayfield into another pollinators oasis. No one needs a dictatorial HOA!
That's what you should have done in the first place!!!! How dumb are you to want things YOUR WAY when you needlessly moved into a place with HOA. HOA is for when homeowners want or need to share the cost to maintain roads, roofs, pools, etc. that individuals don't want to take up on their own.
@@reesedaniel5835 You need more than an acre to protect yourself from disrespectful and crazy neighbors. I have 5 acres of woods and still have a few bothersome neighbors (dogs barking and running loose, couples fighting, roosters crowing, donkeys braying, big trucks on the highway , dirt road constantly in dust or mud and light pollution from a requested street light from an overly fearful family.)
Contact your city council, state representative and let them know the injustices being forced upon people NOT doing things with bad intent. HOA’s are there to create and maintain standards, not harass and bully law abiding citizens who plant some flowers in order to enjoy their yard(s). Further, if you owned the home prior to the HOA, or it’s new management/leadership, you should be grandfathered to the standards when you purchased the home. When did it become a crime to actually have a nice yard? 🤷♂️
@@earlyriser4033 Not when the HOA “standards” become unreasonable. My mother took over her HOA in Orlando because the manager was 1) paying herself illegally and 2) running amazing people out of the area. There is this thing called quality of life. Further, it is ignorant intolerance such as making the suggestion that if someone doesn’t like it, they can leave. Sure glad the minuteman militia of 1776 didn’t think as you do.
@@thetemplar8695 They signed a civil contract to follow the rules, they submitted the landscaping to the HOA. They denied it, they installed the landscaping anyway. They broke the civil contract with HOA by not removing it, they get fined and home foreclosed to pay the fines. You literally have to sign the HOA contract before you can even foreclose on the home ffs.
@@spencers4121 HOA’s can also change guidances…..raise monthly costs, drop programs (such as landscapers) and move people out of their places if certain criteria apply (structural or fire hazards). My mother is the president of a HOA in Florida, who are currently (all) getting hammered due to the collapsed structure during the party in Miami. New state guidance is affecting everyone belonging to a HOA, such as choosing to give up landscapers in order to be able to pay the growing insurance costs, taxes and now coming out of pocket for mandatory inspections by structural engineers on all buildings 3 stories and above. So unexpected, unfair, and borderline unconstitutional things are being implemented by HOA across the board. So it’s pay it, change it, or move. 🤷♂️ Great freedoms. 👍
I don't like HOAs and think they should be done away with. That being said, that couple's yard looks very frumpish and tacky in my opinion. Not saying they can't do what they want with their yard, but I wouldn't want to live a few feet away from it. Though it would be much better than living next to the family of hoarders next door to me that bought my neighbor's formerly lovely home and have completely trashed it and the surrounding yard.
States must pass laws to protect home owners from corrupt HOA managers.
Free for all right? They apparently did the work themselves and it looks like SH*T. The HOA rules create uniformity. Fix up the back yard and enjoy the hell out of it.
LOL you pass those laws then kiss affordable suburban housing goodbye. you authoritarians never think thru consequences.
Haha! All of the replies are hidden. CZcams protects the powerful.
Nah, you can't move into an HOA neighborhood...sign all the dotted lines (there's TONS of lines to sign) and then complain when you disobey what you signed. She got rejected for her proposed lawn updates, and did it anyway.
1:40 "I had no idea had no control over my own yard." Yet, moved into an HOA neighborhood.....
Not saying I agree with the HOA, as the yard looks great....but she signed up for this.
That HOA is a tiny tyrant with a huge corruption problem.
It's definitely time for laws to be put in place to protect homeowners! Hoa's need major regulations!
These Senior Citizens need to file charges through "Adult Protective Services" for "Mental Abuse Of A Vulnerable Adult" ×2. Maybe they will wise up and learn a little common sense if they are facing criminal charges and a possible jail time.
I agree These HOA have Hitler like attitudes.
HOA needs to be demolished, they making money out off home owners; government needs to take action on this matter. We have government we don’t need HOA !!!!
I am a VP of an HOA and I agree! It is time for laws to be put in place. We make amendments to our covenants to go with realistic changes. Yes board members need to enforce the rules, but accommodations need to be made. But this is over the top.
Regulations like abolishment?
What really needs to happen is HOA's need to not exist anymore. This is a free country and you should be able to put whatever improvements on your house that you want without any hassle or dictatorship from anyone. I hope this couple Sues HOA and wins.
Cities and Counties have similar laws to hoa rules. How about we just get rid of all of that?
You do understand that it's a free country and if people want to create a group of Home owners, and call it something like a Home owners Association. That everyone agrees to, and all sign a civil contract to follow the rules. They are FREE to do just that, and then enforce the rules when others in the community break those rules. This couple more then likely lost or settled this case out of court, as I can't find any info about it being 3 years old.
Right on!
We don't really hear about the many benefits of HOAs, but it's stories like this that have caused me to take a hard pass. All it takes is for one little petty wannabe tyrant to ruin it for everybody.
@@spencers4121 Until you start barring purchase of said home without forcing said HOA onto a new owner. HOAs should be a choice but they aren't. The funny thing is HOAs are extremely unpopular it's why houses outside of HOAs have more value.
This is the craziest lawsuit I have ever heard about..the HOA does not own their home or the land it sits on. I could understand they're being a problem if there were cars parked everywhere rusting out & the grass growing up over the wheels... but to sue over a flower??? that is ridiculous. I certainly hope this couple & attorney, can make the HOA back down. obviously this Hoa has too much time on their hands. they need a real job!!
If they were a minority couple and 35 yrs old, there would be no sympathy for THEM. That yard looks tacky as hell and they didn't follow the rules. Everyone loves the HOA until it is THEM. You can do what YOU want when you live on acres of land in the middle of the country but NOT when you live amongst others that closely. Yes, it's YOUR house but it's OUR neighborhood so it MUST blend.
@@cleopatrajones2024 wow, you're kinda rigid, ain't ya
@@cleopatrajones2024
You make a good point without having to interject race, which is just stupid.
@@mariyamwaniki She works for the HOA🤣🤣🤣
@@LuckyCharms777 I think she brought up race because it is believed by many that HOAs exist to discriminate against minorities. Redlining helped keep suburbia white. And in the very beginning, the first suburban neighborhoods to be developed actually had rules against races that weren’t white. With equal housing, and equal lending laws, suburbs started to get more diverse since segregation was finally illegal. Many racially insensitive areas welcomed HOAs as a way to harass riff raff away, since the belief is that they would lower their property values simply existing there.
Some will have insane rules, like you can’t work on your car, or have a lawn more than 2 inches high, or have your trash out during the day, knowing that certain homeowners have to work on their car because they can’t afford to buy a brand new one every couple of years, or they work more than 40 hours, and can only mow on a certain day, and that day may already be raining, or they aren’t home to bring out/take in the trash because they don’t work 9-5 like their neighbors, and can only bring it out an hour early or bring in an hour later. The violation letters pile up until they give up and leave.
The big issue is that it is extremely difficult in many areas to even find a neighborhood that DOESNT have an HOA. Most built this century have one. New real estate listings will actually have “NO HOA” written in the description as being a perk. Many towns that these HOAs exist in have ordinances that can be enforced when reported, such as unkept yard, junked vehicles, etc. All you have to do is call. No HOA needed.
You spend half a million dollars on a house, you should be allowed to change your own oil, or bring out your trash can at 4pm. There’s one neighborhood a few towns over from mine who’s HOA put a lean on this one guys house because he parked a brand new F150 in his driveway. Apparently they actually had rules about what kind of vehicle could be seen. The Lincoln variant of the same truck would be acceptable, but not the Ford.
Just let the seniors plant pretty flowers. Good god.
Devin W the arrangement of plants is ugly......
Karla... In your opinion!
Looked fine to me. Not ugly. So glad I don't like in an HOA!
That’s what the hoa did to my grandparents they tore out many plants and got rid of our fence of privacy... damn hoa
Lol right? Hoa is gestapo
"I feel I have no freedom."
Welcome to HOAs.
Welcome to United socialists of America
@@jenniferraymond3913 I had to think about that for a moment. Socialists are the ultimate busybodies.
@@jenniferraymond3913 HOAs are private.
HOAs are unamerican
@@Baibakov88 not when you live in one
A friend's sister just lost her home behind a disagreement with her HOA that resulted in fees. If you don't think it can happen, it can. SMH.
Those evil people causing those elderly people stress should be sued for age discrimination.
One of my deal breakers is HOA. Would never even bother looking at a property listed as part of one. In theory having some standards can be a positive idea but there’s just too much room for abuse. First in being over zealous with rules and enforcement and suing people for money (extortion) as here, then also constantly raising the fees, or taking fees but doing a shoddy job if at all on the services your supposed to get for them. In too many cases it turns into some kind of racket. Plus I want to garden or decorate the way I want to garden or decorate because it’s my property. That’s part of the plus of your own place so why would I want to give others the right to dictate what I can do on it?
They were repeatedly warned about their yard therefore have time to address it. But nope, they felt that mess in their front yard constituted landscaping. HOA's don't just start with litigation. They give every homeowner time to address the complaints.
The cost of housing why would you be in a place that tells you if you can fly a flag, can't work on your car, the color of your house, that you can't have flowers, if you're even allowed to have a pool or a fence
Sure I'll live in a place like that if I get like a 30% discount LOL
@@michelfortier9563 HOA’s are rife with petty tyrants who like power and make up whatever rules they want, often based on ignorance. In Central FL a few years ago a couple was continuously harassed by their HOA for using a clothesline in the back yard for drying clothes. Apparently, this ‘potentially lowered property values’ for other homes in the area. There was no evidence to prove this, and seriously, so what if it did? The HOA didn’t pay the couple’s electricity bill (although this was done for environmental reasons) and sunlight is free.
Another problem is you can agree to certain rules at closing that can change later without your permission
I agree with you. I wouldn’t want to be involved with an HOA. It’s usually a bunch of old busy bodies that have nothing better to do.
Any judge that would let these people suffer a law suit this excessive should be pulled from the bench immediately!
Why? If they were a minority couple and 35 yrs old, there would be no sympathy for THEM. That yard looks tacky as hell and they didn't follow the rules. Everyone loves the HOA until it is THEM. You can do what YOU want when you live on acres of land in the middle of the country but NOT when you live amongst others that closely. Yes, it's YOUR house but it's OUR neighborhood so it MUST blend.
@@cleopatrajones2024 Seriously Cleo???? You’re really gonna insert the race card in a situation that doesn’t begin to apply? You got serious issues sweet cheeks!
@@ohcliff1030 race card? That term had been planned in your head. By your judgment I used the age card. Why did you not say that one? Sorry but true. As if you never read these comments.
@@cleopatrajones2024 Cleo, You are way out in left field.
Get ral with your comments!
So people should just be able to breach a contract with no repercussions? Imagine if the bank repossessed your car just because it wanted to despite you making all your payments. Should you have no legal recourse against them for violating the contract?
HOA’s are so damn ridiculous and usually always over step their boundaries. We need to get rid of them. Let these people have the yard they want.
This is absolutely insane HOA... my heart goes out to this couple... the corruption is out of control for sure.
Sounds like extortion. The neighbor’s yard looks worse.
It could well be extortion - the management company regarding such penalty payments as a profitable side hustle.
We need to ban HOAs. I was looking for a new home in Fort Worth area and its almost impossible to buy a new home that's not in an HOA. Banning them or reducing the number of them is the best solution. Also we need to reduce their power over the home owners.
I agree. We pay property taxes so the county take care of us. Counties had CC and R’s. That’s enough!
Totally agree
I have a hoa free home near downtown austin. But i am looking for my next place. Austin is getting full of crap and more arriving daily! My next purchase most be once again hoa free and my next neighbor is at least five miles away deep in the country! I want to live quite and happy and not sitting in a prison cell for taking down a useless piece of crap planning how to make my life miserable.
@@YTSD I managed to find one also. But I could only find 1 new home on the market that did not hav an HOA
@@timbeatty11 builders find out how profitable hoa can be that’s why! I am planning Texas panhandle!
I can't for the life of me understand why ANYONE would buy property in a HOA controlled area. To me these HOA's should be called BBA - Busy Body Associations.
As the lady rightly pointed out, her and her husband 'paid' for their home & yet they're not allowed to do as they please within reason without having to ask permission first & having to pay to do so; just crazy.
It's not as though the front garden is unkempt in any way, shape or form.
There are ppl out there who want to live a make believe perfect life style, in a perfect neighborhood, where all homes look exactly the same. Everything has too look like suburbia. Not a blade of grass out of place. It’s insane, I’m so lucky my parents bought this house with no hoa. Every house on our block is different at this point. Some have two floors, some are still single stories. Some are blue and red, or stone or siding! There’s one that even looks like a really nice old style cottage. Everyone minds there business here, and still we know each other. my dad will even do construction jobs for free for our neighbors who ask for help. I wish I could just buy a house in this same neighborhood.
@@melanie3247 Exactly. How on earth did anyone anywhere ever manage to cope throughout the 10,000 or so years of human civilisation without Busy Body Associations? Like you said, it's perfectly possible to be neighbourly without any of that nonsense. Hope you get to buy a house in the neighborhood you so beautifully described one day.
@@melanie3247 Be thankful you don't have a hoarder in the neighborhood, complete with intex pool, swingset, dog pens, 15 vehicles and a carport full of more junk and dog pens......
@@melanie3247 The hoarding issue is the other extreme of the HOA tyrants. These trashy hoarder types oppress you and hold you hostage in your own home without having to lift a finger.
@@reesedaniel5835 lol actually my neighbors mom is a hoarder, but they keep their front yard looking nicer than ours lol the inside of the house is a mess though. And technically we’re the neighbors with all the animals, although now we just have two chickens and 3 mini roosters (who sleeps inside a somewhat soundproof tiny house) so no morning wake up calls. Oh and an outdoor cat. Luckily our neighbors think they’re cute and enjoy the fresh eggs lmao. Very thankful so far, it’s good that most ppl have lived here for yearssss enough to know everyone else’s quirks and patterns
Imagine a lawsuit over flowers. What a joke! There's so many problems in the world and they are worried about FLOWER BEDS
I just bought 3 acres in the county to get out of a HOA ran neighborhood
Us too! It's awesome! No nosy Ned peeking out his window at me! The property is mine, all mine!
That's the only way to live. Free. I have 32 acres of land . I don't even need to get permits to do what I want to do with my land. It's mine.. all mine..
I have problems after problems with HOA where I bought a new house in a subdivision. I moved out to an area without HOA , and never been happier. Lesson learned , Not to buy where there's compulsory HOA.
GOOD FOR YOU!
@@deidrabrey4043 Until someone from the city moves in and becomes county trustee and starts demanding things that were never heard of in a rural area before. Been there seen it before.
Remember when you buy into a HOA neighborhood you are giving up some of your rights to your property.
People should be able to opt out of HOA when they buy house.
@@rockerrockstar you are...it’s called not buying a home there.
[Quote:] Remember when you buy into a HOA neighborhood you are giving up ALL OF YOUR RIGHTS to your property. ----There I fixed it for you
Some people like to be in prison. Weird😮
My friends in Arizona are in an HOA regulated area where the board tried to tell them what colour blinds they could only use in their front window facing the street. When they pointed out their neighbors didn't have 'only allowed specific blinds colors' HOA said " oh they had theirs already installed before we initiated this new rule". It's gotten way out of hand.
We recently backed out of a home purchase because of the HOA rules; you can’t use your garage for ANYTHING OTHER THAN PARKING YOUR CARS! Not even storage!
Good, no one wants to come home and see people hanging in the garage all the time or leaving the garage door up and it looks like a hoarder lives there.
F---- 'em!😮
I just bought a 3.95 acre home 40 minutes away without an HOA. It has a septic tank, a well and propane heat but I do get high speed internet. I still have PTSD from years in successive HOAs.
LOL funny but also probably true, unfortunately ...
I also experienced the horrors of an HOA- aka communism
@@GodsSparrowSpeaks >>(
@@dartheverstar9564 I see a homeowners association as communism, because if a person cannot make decisions about the very home they’ve “purchased” (such as paint color, where vehicles can be parked, etc.) without the express approval of some “Board”, then someone else is controlling their; 1. Property 2. Choices 3. That which they they have worked for
The definition of communism includes “communal control”. Therefore an HOA falls into this category.
We see in Plato’s “Republic”, that the “guardians” were to devote themselves to serving the interest of the entire community.
1. Who decides and chooses the guardians?
2. And what if someone disagrees with the guardians? With what is considered best for the community?
We see that this erodes personal freedoms.
Plato also stated that there must be sharing of material goods (this would include a home that a person has worked for and purchased) and also sharing of spouses and children.
1. Are you willing to open your home to others?
2. Are you willing to share your spouse/significant other/children?
We see this same thought process with Sir Thomas Moore, with the Anabaptists, with the 17th Century “Diggers”, and the list goes on.
See, you find a solution therefore kudos to you. Instead of griping, people should do what you did and those of us who like deed restrictions can continue to live in harmony with like-minded people.
@@GodsSparrowSpeaks Since you once chose to live in an HOA community, that would make you a communist by your own definition. BTW, I'm fervently anti-communist.
HOA is one of the most stupid thing! When I got my house one of the first thing I told my realtor no HOA. She told me smart man! I told her it’s enough of paying my house mortgage and property taxes and obeying the stupid city codes to have a idiot in a office trying to figure out what to do to ruin somebody’s dream. I most likely ended up in jail because I will not tolerate any crap coming out of a HOA!
Great igree HOA are a legal extortion cartel taking $$ for make life miserable to owner
In Arizona several years ago, someone did shoot an HOA board member for being so pig-headed.
@@TeslaBoy123 Pure Communism!!! No More!
My mother had to take down her house numbers we kids had specifically had made with a ceramic background .. it was beautiful but not allowed. She also had to remove the outdoor tiles we had laid on her front small front porch. Not allowed. And that wasn’t the end of it. There was always something.
@@leslieollerhead1114 , Tell your mom to run for board members and go door to door to garner support ( talked to people first and see whether they have the same mindset ). I did just that, to beat them at their own game and run out those dictators in 1 year.
I had to sell my hoa townhome and move to a 1 family, because we just could not imagine their hoa power before we bought in, and they made us very unhappy with their constant picking on us... we've called them "hoa nazies"... "we cannot allow blueberry bushes, because the birds will poop purple on our sidewalks" - really? 🤣
Bottom line: when you move into a neighborhood with an HOA, you agree to abide by the rules. Read the rules, read the fine print. If it sounds too strict, don't move there
in the first place. Get yourself on the board so you can keep track of anything going on with the HOA. Personally, I won't consider any place with an HOA.
This is happening all across the country.We were fined up to 1500. for what the hoa said we didn't have enough mulch on the side of one of our flower beds.The crazy thing is that we have been doing the same thing for 10 years,and have won yard of the month many times.We are getting ready to sue the hoa.
Have you sued?
I would not have paid that fine. In fact I would have charged them with harrassment.
Don't ever pay the fines, HOA's have no legal authority.
@@Missvoodoomama you sound like a moron that would pay HOA fines 😅
@@muffintop420 They do have legal authority bc its given to them in the signed contact unfortunately. They can even put a lien on someone's house and sell it if they own fines, its insane.
All home association must stand down now
If you don’t like HOAs, the move to a trailer park that doesn’t have one
@@joemama6906 I can see you have drunk the HOA Kool Aid Mr. Mama. Are you the President of your HOA by any chance? LOL
There are plenty of neighborhoods without HOA’s. They give you the entire rule book before you move in. Why would you agree to move there if you didn’t want the rules?
@@user-uf9xj3wg9h I live in a HOA community that has a common pool, tennis courts, kids play ground, stocked fishing ponds and canoe launch. What we don’t have is cars on blocks, trailers and Boats parked in the yard, and unkept lawns.
@@samantham8696 omg! EXACTLY! lol. they are crazy!!
As someone from the UK this whole story is baffling. If they own home how does anyone have the right to tell them what they can and can't do it? Unless it is massively impacting or detrimental to someone else?
I have heard worse things. Trees being cut down in the backyard! when homeowners arent home. They were litterly on the back property line where a bussy road was you could not even see them from the front. Being find after a huricane, because your pool screen blew away and you haven't had time to have it settled with insurance let alone replace it at your own cost. Drying your cloths out side.. big no no. It is crazy stuff to most Europeans, litterly no one cares what you do in your yard as long as it is not a health hazzard to the rest of the neighbourhood.
The same happened to my Mother - in South Africa . She wasn't allowed to paint her house a different shade of white nor were she allowed to make her garden the way she wanted. She eventually lost as in the contract the HOA had the final legal say. She ended up selling her home and bought a loose standing house that were not a part of any HOA where she could do what she wanted. I personally do not like these retirement villages - way too many hidden rules with little freedom
I would never, in a million years , move into an area that is overseen by an HOA.
It's fkn ridiculous some of the rules they have!
I honestly believe they put these rules in place , just waiting for someone to make a mistake so the can sue the hell out of people and deepen their pockets!!
What a joke. I hope this retired couple wins!!
I have lived in two places that have been governed by HOA rules. The first time I was a renter, so none of the responsibility was mine. The owner never came to us to complain about anything, so I guess we were never doing anything that violated the rules. The second time we were owners of the house in an HOA neighborhood, and the president of the HOA was very accommodating to homeowners, and she was willing to work with people who were violating the rules; parking on the narrow streets was the main problem. But I have heard and read on numerous occasions about some some of the horror stories people have concerning their HOA experiences, and I have vowed never to live in an HOA community again. By buying a house in one of these areas, you just signed onto an agreement stating you will abide by the rules. You should ALWAYS read the rules before you sign on the dotted line, because there is nearly always a HOA Nazi on the board.
And the rules can change at any time once you move in, anyway.
Perfect description "hoa nazi"
Maybe even a shylok too.
That’s what happens when you live in HOA. I feel badly for them, this is unfortunately what they signed up for, being told what to do with their own home.
Smacks to me of another HOA trying to steal a house from a senior couple who might be tired and may be easily forced off their property at a loss. 100% loss.
When I was purchasing a new home a few years ago, the number one requirement was that it could NOT be in any neighborhood that had an HOA.
Good!
Time for the government to impose severe retractions on HOA's in terms what they can and cannot do.
Not going to happen as our country rushes headlong into a socialist hellhole.
Wait.....Are you saying that Government should HOA the HOA's 🙄
@@marynieder8264 yeah, it's called laws.
The government won't help. HOAs are taking over responsibility from local and state governments such as road maintenance and trash removal.
@@my2commonsense476 what has socialism and HOA in common. Stop being STUPID
If a person wanted to paint their house florescent orange the HOA would be right in stopping them and this couple would agree.
Is there a difference ?
Rules are in place for a reason both small and extreme. Why do so many people think rules don't apply anymore ?
This is outrageous! That HOA manager ought to be out out on his/ her greedy ear! I hope this couple wins this.
HOA is the modern day Mafia.
all HOAs will be removed by FORCE if need be
I learned the hard way. I installed a back door that was four times more expensive (and much nicer) than what the association called for. I ended up having to paint a beautiful solid wood door before they would allow it. Get educated on what power and requirements the hoa has before you move in. For me, never again!
Deb Schwer, what were they doing in your backyard? I thought they could only see and do from the public sidewalk. I never will live where I have to ask or get approval. I don’t live with my parents
I know exactly what an HOA is. Not just one neighborhood but 3 different neighborhoods. They are all the same, control freaks. I sold my home and I wasn’t in a HOA neighborhood and tripled my money. I know people who sold and made good money, they weren’t in HOA. You choose to live where someone is dictating to you what you can and can’t do or be fined. Hope your happy where you are
I would never get a home in an hoa I don't see the benefit of it.
Yeah ur back door in ur back yard isn’t up to them!
That is totally insane!.. they are crazy people!!
This is an older couple who was probably not familiar with HOA’s. Before they signed the contract, it should become standard practice with the elderly to insure they understand everything involved in living in a HOA, even though it is probably in writing. I feel that they should be given some slack. I work with the elderly and know how confusing these “new” things can be for them.
Communism is always confusing to people with a soul.
Elderly people, or anyone for that matter, should not be harassed like this.
My husband and I had a person stop at our house going door to door a few years ago wanting to have residents sign a petition to enact an HOA in our neighborhood. Our home and neighbors homes were built in the 1950’s. No way anyone wanted to sign that piece of BS to be told you can’t do anything to your own property anymore. We told them to kick rocks and never come back.
And the fun part of that is even if they did enact a HOA, everyone who didn't sign up would have their property grandfathered. So it ultimately wouldn't matter anyway.
Please don’t buy a property with HOA...
Don't worry.
@@marknewton6984 Why I should? I own my house free of HOA 🙂
This is EXACTLY why when we bought our home, we made SURE it was NOT a required HOA. There is one, but we do NOT have to join. Most of our neighbors don’t like us because we do what we want - after all, we are paying for it all.
I have heard so many terrible things about HOA people and rules. They need to be knocked down a few notches shame on them for this!
Who ever gets into HOA community are in for a big big surprise.
Thank you for reminding me why I should never live an area with an HOA. Good lord
The HOA is looking for some more money, and they’ll do whatever they can to get whatever they can-including harassing retired folks over a few flowers! 🤦♂️ What stupidity!
Some people are tyrants and bullies. Unfortunately, these type people like to be in positions of power. I lived for 14 years under this very hoa rule and my heart goes out to this elderly couple! I moved a few years ago and will never again sign away any part of my home ownership to the potentially corrupt agenda of the hoa.
HOA’s are selective who they want to harass. I have had letters complaining because my Bermuda grass was going to seed. I have NO grass, only shrubbery, trees and mulch, almost all native vegetation. One of my blooming shrubs flopped onto my driveway within my yard and I was told that I had to cut it down because it wasn’t attractive. The house across the street had new owners who removed the shrubs and grass and had bare dirt and weeds for over 2 years. Many people including children would stop and watch the butterflies and admire the blooms in my yard and I pointed out that the one across the street wasn’t very attractive. I was told that I had to prune my oak so that there were no branches that were lower than my 2 story roof but all of the ones on not just my block but the entire neighborhood had branches occluding even one story homes. They told me that I had to remove the weeds and I pointed out that the city water board had a rebate program and every plant in my yard was in there xeriscape recommendation and actually paid for most of them. You have power hungry people who don’t like people to stand up to their edicts and point out that they are wrong.
These narcissistic serpents were plainly targeting and Scapegoating you. They get great pleasure doing that to people they envy. They don't care about the low vibrational trashy types that have dirt and weeds in their yards. That's not what this is about 😁 The devil has his little minions all over the place, sent out to target, harrass, persecute and cause misery to God's people. If they don't target you with this parasitical "HOA" group, you will end up with a family of hoarders next to you, drastically reducing your quality of life and your property value. If you want to move, you will have to practically give it away because of these trashy people in the house beside you. Or you just stay and endure the eye sore, coming and going.
@Patrick Baptist When I moved in 33 years ago, the HOA wasn’t the entity that it is now. The community was largely undeveloped and neighbors were friendly. When a few people decide to overstep their boundaries and attack people who don’t drive the car they like or assert their supposed power it becomes a nightmare. A neighbor moved in and within 5 days received a letter with 8 nonsense infractions including someone’s expired inspection sticker for a car parked on their driveway, it isn’t what it used to be. Another neighbor rented a room and a car with no license plates, no inspection sticker, missing window and didn’t move for 2 weeks parked on the public street they ignore because that homeowner is on the board. We weren’t in the city and over the years the city grew and eventually annexed our neighborhood of half to 4 acre sized lots. The newer neighborhoods are mostly gated communities with small lots and the issues that I see on Nextdoor are horrendous. The purpose is to support the covenants that are on your deed. Keeping your yard ‘neat and clean’ isn’t supposed to have yards scrutinized by opinionated residents who purport to be the harbinger of taste and target people who they dislike. 33 years ago HOA’s were just starting and nobody could foresee the entity that they have become. When a few power hungry people take control and most residents don’t go to meetings and have no idea what is happening to some, then change doesn’t happen. Mine started because they didn’t like the older Suburban that I had when someone moved in and then escalated to vandalism to my property. To continue for 20 years is a sign of mental illness and they would have still targeted people without an HOA.
I cannot wait to be free of HOA. I came from a small town where that just wasn't an issue. Where I come from no one would dream of telling you what to do with your home much less suing over flower beds. To not even have the integrity to come speak with the homeowners to try and resolve this says it is cowardly money hungry little people with too much power.
I think they are trying to make the elderly couple leave.
@@reesedaniel5835 thats just disgusting to me. Let people live especially when it isn't harming anyone and definitely not an eyesore.
The majority of new Residential Planned Developments are being built as deed restricted communities. The HOA is used to enforce the deed restrictions. It is the buyer's responsibility to read all documents at closing but most people don't.
I rented a place that had HOA regulation. Seriously, HOA is demon. Even the landlord told me that she could not sale the property bc no one interested in buying. She paid lots of fees n when I rented her place my balcony had only a broomstick. They fine us for that. Also parking too. We had motorcycle and a sedan. They fit in the space n it was fine. Then one beautiful day they sent us a letter saying the new regulation just started n we could park only either a sedan or a motorcycle. We have to rent an extra space from them to park the other vehicle. They are very quick at catching tenants. One time i was bringing my grocery bags from my car n left them in front of my door just to walk back to my car to get something else. I got a fine within less than 3 min. Idk who the hell able to snap pic of the grocery bags and assuming we left them there along time. I knew who was that person (she was a part of the HOA committee) and she saw us loading our groceries bags from the car. Ppl live there hates these HOA. We often got fines for things like that. No more HOA in my life.
If the HOA requirements were in place before they purchased the home, they have no one to blame except themselves.
My wife n I lived in lago mar for 3 yrs, we were one of the first residents to pick a lot and build with gehan homes, the builders were fine but it was the HOA and obviously taxes that got insanely ridiculous so we sold our house and after 10 months some people bought it....glad to be out! Now the new owners can deal with it. HOA sucks!!!
I lived in a hoa once. Never again, not even for free. I think it’s unconstitutional. I took care of a lady once through hospice that had an hoa. Her garage had no place for us to park so every day she got hit with an $800 fine because we had to park in her driveway. This happened for over a month.
If being in hospice wasn't bad enough
Ridiculous
WTF!? That's just plain EVIL!!
@@missycitty9478 yes it was.
We got into one because they had no signage, and the homeowners lied about it, and the realtor didn't correct them. Would have been a deal breaker. We're pretty rural and it's not as horrible as there's. But, we also oconsider them unconstitutional. People scream about communism or Nazis and that's what they amount to. I don't want to hear any complaining about govt. By anyone who approves of HOA's.
Just don't pay, HOA's really don't have much power. I lived in a building where a guy put in floors that weren't approved. The HOA threatened him and sent fines. He just said no I'm not replacing it, nothing ever happened and it went on for years. I think he eventually sold it.
State laws need to be passed that allow homeowners the option to cancel their membership any time the homeowner chooses to do so. If HOAs and POAs are as wonderful as their lobbyists claim, they should be able to survive on a voluntary basis. Of Course anybody with more than three brain cells would drop out immediately which is why the HOAs and POAs require lobbyists bribing lawmakers to make these extortion rackets mandatory and not voluntary.
PHD
I would never somewhere with an HOA. When we bought our house, we made sure no HOA would be involved.
thats why i refuse to live in subdivisions with hoa no restrictions is how im gonna live
I don't feel sorry for anyone in a HOA. The rules are clearly written and you join these organizations for the strict guidelines. I also want to state, most towns and cities have landscaping standards. Property ownership doesn't entitle you to do whatever you want--our ancestors literally fled Europe to get away from that system.
The city of edgewater in florida dragged me into court for 10 years for refusing to plant.a lawn. No hoa . Usa is not a free country.
HOAs need the majority of homeowners in that neighborhood, to vote yes, on whether or not there is an HOA. If you check the records most HOAs are illegally formed with only about 25 percent of the neighborhood votes. Most township, and City organisers don't check
because an HOA means higher land, and school TAXES.
Yeah, but 100% have to pay dues or else.
Ours was set up by the developer, then we took it over after we had enough homes... then the officers decided to hire an outside entity to 'Manage' it.. and now its getting out of countrol.
For crazy flower's 🤨🤨🤨🤦🤦🤦🤦what's wrong with people now day's
They are jealous of the ambition and willingness to spend their own money.
Worst than the Nazi.
When people say “I would never live in an hoa” where do you live/ find homes, and have you looked in the last 5 years? I have yet to find hardly any home in/near town that doesn’t have an hoa.
What a shame,this is unbelievable. So sorry for the couple
These HOA people should be lock down behind bars for harassing these elderly just bcause of those plants and flowers.
These HOA people are their neighbors that volunteered their time to serve on the Board.
Read your HOA policy before you even consider buying.
I think the dictators can vote to change policy too. Why people allow themselves to be dictated is beyond me.
@@citticat2 They can't change policies unless there is a certain percentage of homeowners approval and then the lawyers are involved as well. It's a process. I'm on the board of ours and it's a lot of work to even add what the homeowners wants. People don't respond to get the percentage needed to add what they said they wanted. It's just not a simple process
@@SCK-vk1so Home in our area with HOAs do not sell as fast and there are some that have been on the market for months -- way too risky.
@@citticat2 I revisited some neighborhoods where I was looking to purchase and I'm so glad I didn't. They had HOA but voted it out. Now the neighborhoods look so different. It would've looked so much better if they would've kept the HOA. I would never think of buying a house there now.
@@citticat2 CD
"I feel like I have no freedom here, we have to do what they want"... Did she not read the fine print? That's exactly what an HOA is all about and why I will live in my car before I ever have an HOA telling me what to do. My realtor knows that I don't care how much she thinks I would love the house, or how low the price... If it has an HOA she'd better not show it to me or she's going to be one client lighter. I will bend on a lot of things but having an HOA run my life is not one of them.
A friend of mine was actually fine for having the wrong color curtains in her front window... Are you kidding me?
HOA is another form of control. I never did understand why someone would buy a house and then have to get permission to plant flowers in the front yard. Or be told what color shutters I can have. Mind blowing
I'm so glad I don't have an HOA. Never will have one. Too much power over you.
I think HOAs should be able say home owners have to keep up their property and keep it mown and clean but they shouldn't be able to tell them how to plant flowers or anything else.
Not sure how it works in other places but here the counties have codes for length of grass, fence & shed placement, # of animals & what kind, etc. The county codes supercede the HOA by-laws. To me, that makes the HOA rules moot. Also, here, covenants/HOA regulations last for a finite period of time. If they aren't refiled with the county after that period they are no longer enforceable. The residents vote on whether to keep the covenants on the books.
P.S. However, that doesn't keep the HOA officers from acting like jerks, trying to intimidate residents, reporting insignificant or imagined infractions to code enforcement, just trying to throw their weight around to make life miserable for others. Do I want a rooster as my alarm clock? NO! Do I want to see neighbors parking a bunch of cars/boats/RVs on their lawn? No! DO I want to look at a rotted out garage door or overgrown lawns & shrubs? No! It's pretty inexpensive & fairly easy to take out a lien on someone's property & there's always the lawyer-route IF going & talking in a neighborly, kind way doesn't work.
Think about it long & hard before buying a home where there's an HOA in the picture! With an HOA you may end up paying big bucks to an organization that will end up making your existence hell on earth. I'd rather hear the rooster, look at the rotten garage door & vehicles parked on the lawn! There's always code enforcement if a neighborly chat fails. Good luck out there!
There are too many flower beds and parts of the grass were dead. It was basically a MESS. My dad has a tendancy of doing this too. This happens when you do a little bit at a time without a plan from the beginning. It's very ORGANIC.
Homewowners-Let’s make our front yard look pretty by planting some flowers.💐
HOA-Hell no how dare you do that! 🤨🙄😑😒
Never buy a home/condo/townhouse that makes you pay a monthly HOA fee. It always goes up and you will hate the cost. Think what you could do if you saved that money.
It’s because they don’t have good board members. I’ve seen a lot communities looks nice with a low HOA fee. It’s hard for the board members to change the fee but if they look into it it’s still doable
Her: "I feel we have no freedom here."
Me: "Welcome to a HOA style neighborhood. =\"
The HOA needs to prioritize its battles and this tenants plants shouldn’t be one of them.
We have HOA rep crueling tormenting us as well. We have been here 20 years, but he under 2 years decided he can do what he wants (RV/truck larked on front yard/take easement for personal use/no permit for fence)... he put up the fence on property line while we where at work. It sucks.
That's why you NEVER buy a home in a neighbor that has an HOA, they will always screw you over.
Never move where there is a HOA. There are already enough regulations, people are just getting themselves in deeper.
I agree. Might sound like a good idea, thecrest is yet to come.
HOA is out of control. They need to be put in their place asap.
I will bet that when they were looking at the house to buy they either were not informed of the HOA’s existence, had no knowledge of the negative side of HOA, or they were only informed of the positive aspects of having an HOA. I find this kind of HOA activity, even if it is legal, to be morally reprehensible.
Because it's a microcosm of communism.
HOA’s should be outlawed
One reason I swore years ago, I would never own a home that had an HOA. When I was selling real estate, I even warned clients about them....and this was 30yrs ago. They have only gotten worse. 😝
HOA are pure bullies
Nuts..I’d tell to shove it… The more I hear about HOAs the more I know I’d never buy a house with HOA. My daughter bought a 600,000 house in a relatively moderate neighborhood. HOA member walks around neighborhood looking for infractions. There was confusion about extending a concrete drive to accommodate parking. I couldn’t believe they actually expected him to remove it after discovering it extended 2” larger than approved. They ignored notices after speaking with board until the tyrant moved away. Glad I live in country where my property is my property, for the most part.
I will pay more money to own a home not apart of a HOA
Seems they are usually less but the home will be older. People jump through all these hoops just to maybe share a pool and a clubhouse. I dont get it lol
The places going up across the street doesn't even have amenities. These people are paying to literally live on top of each other. They don't even have grass on their lawns just the red clay that stains everything🤦🏾♀️
Ill gladly stay on my side in my 30 tear old house with a couple acres between my neighbors and I.
Playing devil’s advocate here. They are the ones that bought the house in an HOA neighborhood. When we bought our retirement home. Told the realtor NO HOAs. No matter how nice the house is, it’s not worth the HOA.
HOAs can be established later though
@@lidiapietrusza5014 I think you can decide to be part of it though. I believe it's a contractual agreement. If they decide to establish one later she won't have to sign the contract agreeing to their terms.
Stop playing devil's advocate; its unproductive, makes you sound like you can only understand things from your own perspective and just want to boast. Not everyone knows how manipulative and strenuous HOAs can be.
In all fairness, most people have no idea what HOAs can be like until they actually experience them.
@@tarabooartarmy3654 yes they make it sound nice and safe and a good investment for your home but they limit arbitrarily what u can do to the property. I heard of one that only want residents to drive a certain color and type of car
My HOA and management company in San Antonio did the same thing to me. They wouldn't tell me what they wanted me to do and then they said they were going to come in and tear out everything in my yard and put grass in. I hired a lawyer and the lawyer said they are not to trespass into my yard and they're not to do anything are they will pay for multiple lawyers and be sued. They grandfathered my yard in and left me alone after that but it was an evil fight.
Same thing happened to me. HOA was sending me letters saying I owe 10k in HOA fees. I sent them a certified letter saying I am not part of the HOA. Sent them a deed saying my property is not on the HOA line. They tried to foreclosure on my property. I counter sued HOA didn't want to pay me and were filing appeals. Since my attorney had foreclosure attorney's working at their law firm they put up the HOA on foreclosure. We went to their club house and we started taking stuff out. They were scared just like what happened to Bank Of America. They were lucky since we didn't have news crews.
HOA's are unfair!! I lived in the Kingwood area of Houston & my HOA sent me threatening letters over & over about my yard which looked fine! (I had a professional yard crew that came twice a month) But to make them happy, I spent $1600.00+ re-mulching my yard & adding more plants/flowers as requested. They were still NOT happy & sent more threats! After several frustrating years with them I decided to sell my home & move!
You should have sued the HOA.
@@rockerrockstar The HOA should have sued the homeowner for choosing to buy in the HOA in the first place. If you don't like rules, HOAs are *not* for you!
@@DemPilafian Sounds like the "rules" get made up as they go and these HOAs are being over run with tyrannical types (narcissists) on a power trip. The adult versions of the bullies from high school. They don't care if you follow the rules, they keep moving the goal post because they get pleasure from making people jump thru hoops (just like the govt).
@@DemPilafian You should be sued for being an idiot and thinking HOAs are remotely legal. They go against the US constitution lmfao.
@@newax_productions2069 Really? Which article of the Constitution? To be unconstitutional there has to be a *specific violation* and not just some fuzzy sense that your personal opinions are hurt.
I would NEVER buy a home that has an HOA!!
Paying an HOA to tell you what you can and can't do is one of the best ways to waste your money
Anyone who moves into an HOA controlled neighborhood gets exactly what they deserve...if that's not how you want live, move to a place with no HOA...
My aunt sold her condo when the HOA decided to paint a purple trim on the windows. It looked like they were in Mexico!
What a picky little Karen.
@@tarabooartarmy3654 Guess not because people couldn't rent or sell their condos, so the kicked out the board members and painted the condos the original color. Big $$ People live there for beauty, not trailer trash.
So sad and crazy
If their home value didn’t go down , there were no “damages”. I went round and round with new management years ago. I let them know i would sue THEM and win, and would get counsel if they didn’t stop the nonsense. I was really mad. They said they preferred just shrubs! No perennial gardens. I told them to bites me. They are trying to harass them. They know they can’t win that case, legally. They need someone on their side who will take on this HOA. My value went UP when I put in a perennial bed out front. In fact it went up big time. This has to stop. Atlleast they didnt put their rose bushes in painted tires like we did growing up! 😆
HOA is disgraceful. They need to have laws put into place to prevent them from doing this. This type of shake down is an abuse of power. My step brother got into hot water with the HOA because he painted his front door blue. The HOA said he would be fined every day the door was blue. He eventually changed it, but was very unhappy that as a homeowner, he had almost no say about his own property.
More people should be informed and shouldn't be so willing to sign into these types of policies.
I was the bane of my toothless HOA for nearly 30 years. Their rules were so flimsy that as long as I paid their paltry dues there was nothing they could do. I planted what I wanted, where I wanted, and turned my yard into a pollinator haven. Now I live on my rural experimental acre without an HOA and have turned a hayfield into another pollinators oasis. No one needs a dictatorial HOA!
That's what you should have done in the first place!!!! How dumb are you to want things YOUR WAY when you needlessly moved into a place with HOA. HOA is for when homeowners want or need to share the cost to maintain roads, roofs, pools, etc. that individuals don't want to take up on their own.
Thank you for supporting the bees.
Pray to God every single day you don't end up with hoarders next to you.
@@reesedaniel5835 You need more than an acre to protect yourself from disrespectful and crazy neighbors. I have 5 acres of woods and still have a few bothersome neighbors (dogs barking and running loose, couples fighting, roosters crowing, donkeys braying, big trucks on the highway , dirt road constantly in dust or mud and light pollution from a requested street light from an overly fearful family.)
@@rhondamcknight2596 People just don't get it, do they?
Contact your city council, state representative and let them know the injustices being forced upon people NOT doing things with bad intent. HOA’s are there to create and maintain standards, not harass and bully law abiding citizens who plant some flowers in order to enjoy their yard(s). Further, if you owned the home prior to the HOA, or it’s new management/leadership, you should be grandfathered to the standards when you purchased the home. When did it become a crime to actually have a nice yard? 🤷♂️
There is no injustice. You buy into an HOA you follow the rules. Aid you don’t like it move.
@@earlyriser4033 Not when the HOA “standards” become unreasonable. My mother took over her HOA in Orlando because the manager was 1) paying herself illegally and 2) running amazing people out of the area. There is this thing called quality of life. Further, it is ignorant intolerance such as making the suggestion that if someone doesn’t like it, they can leave. Sure glad the minuteman militia of 1776 didn’t think as you do.
@@thetemplar8695 They signed a civil contract to follow the rules, they submitted the landscaping to the HOA. They denied it, they installed the landscaping anyway. They broke the civil contract with HOA by not removing it, they get fined and home foreclosed to pay the fines. You literally have to sign the HOA contract before you can even foreclose on the home ffs.
@@spencers4121 HOA’s can also change guidances…..raise monthly costs, drop programs (such as landscapers) and move people out of their places if certain criteria apply (structural or fire hazards). My mother is the president of a HOA in Florida, who are currently (all) getting hammered due to the collapsed structure during the party in Miami. New state guidance is affecting everyone belonging to a HOA, such as choosing to give up landscapers in order to be able to pay the growing insurance costs, taxes and now coming out of pocket for mandatory inspections by structural engineers on all buildings 3 stories and above. So unexpected, unfair, and borderline unconstitutional things are being implemented by HOA across the board. So it’s pay it, change it, or move. 🤷♂️ Great freedoms. 👍
I don't like HOAs and think they should be done away with. That being said, that couple's yard looks very frumpish and tacky in my opinion. Not saying they can't do what they want with their yard, but I wouldn't want to live a few feet away from it. Though it would be much better than living next to the family of hoarders next door to me that bought my neighbor's formerly lovely home and have completely trashed it and the surrounding yard.
$100,000 for the wrong flowers.... WTF? Thus is why HOA’s need to be disbanded, out of line is an understatement.
That HOA is disgusting for taking advantage of an elderly couple. Having flower beds doesn't equate to fining someone 100k.