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Former Norwegian UDT diver here. A lot of this is of course dramatized by the production, like having a stick in your mouth to prevent biting your tongue or to not stick your head underwater because of increased risk of heart attack. Cold water shock is a thing, but that's more when you don't really expect to go into cold water. Actually, you'd want to put your head underwater, because it triggers a physiological response that slows your breathing to conserve energy.
Ahh okay. So that stick in mouth is not a real thing then. Lol. Thank you so much for insight and for your service. I really do appreciate it.
All Norwegians are taught the "Mountain Code" from when they are kids. In addition, the main TV stations repeat them on air during winter and easter when most people are going to the mountains. Each rule of thumb has additional clarifications. For instance after nr 9. Norwegians are taught "rules to remember" like "seek shelter before you're too tired" as well as "dig down before it's too late", the latter refering to snow caves like in this episode.
Built properly they are warm enough to keep you safe. It's not uncommon that kids build one in their backyard both to play and to spend the night in.
*The mountain code:*
Stay safe by following these simple rules of thumb.
1. Plan your trip and inform others about the route you have selected.
2. Adapt the planned routes according to ability and conditions.
3. Pay attention to the weather and the avalanche warnings.
4. Be prepared for bad weather and frost, even on short trips.
5. Bring the necessary equipment so you can help yourself and others.
6. Choose safe routes. Recognize avalanche terrain and unsafe ice.
7. Use a map and a compass. Always know where you are.
8. Don’t be ashamed to turn around.
9. Conserve your energy and seek shelter if necessary.
Should you go through the ice, your first thought will not be "remember to breathe", it will be "I can't breathe". I have heard people comparing it to "getting the wind knocked out of you" while the entire body want's to cramp up in pain.
During this show they are taught to get out of the water after going through a hole, not a very realistic scenario. People go through the ice because it's too thin and breaks. When you then attempt getting back up, it most likely will break up under your weight. Use your poles to pull yourself up, and slide on your chest and stomach to spread your weight as evenly as possible. If you're alone, you're in trouble. If you panic you're dead.
Another "nice to know": If you are watching a (for instance) 100 ft. avalanche while standing at the bottom, 300 ft. from the base of the mountain - you're too close.
Thank you so much for your insight. I do think that knowledge like that needs to be more a priority in American schools, especially in certain parts of the country.
Brings back memories, some really cold ones🥶🧊
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We did 7,5 kilos tnt sames as 75 kilos dynamite . 5 meters away. That was awsome.
Awesome 😄😄👍
As a Greek, I've always wondered what they do with their snow up north. This answers my question.
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Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
We got to do the whole falling through ice as kids in school. Dont know if it is still the case in sweden or it might have been just a local thing. We had skates not skis. The ice in this video is thick so getting out without assistance is not too difficult.
That experience does not look like fun at all 😂
Yes!!!, I remember it well, it was in the 1970s February/March only with clothes and ice spikes with a rope around the waist and then into the sauna, I think I was 11-12 years old and it was in of Stockholms county.
@@gurra63able that sounds like a miserable experience. But, at least it was memorable 😂. Did they still do that in schools today?
@@JustAnotherArmyVet Yes, but it is not mandatory today, a few municipalities around Sweden still do it from grades 6-9, there is probably too much talk about how much children are harmed physically/psychologically in today's world, in the past you were taught to raise and fend for yourself when neither the adults or parents were present, I myself had already involuntarily plowed through the ice in a lake as an 8-9 year old, but luckily it was only 5-6 minus degrees in the air because it was 5km home, you had already learned to roll in the dry snow to suck some water out of our clothes, me and my friends were very, very active as children, we were all over the municipality and often 15-20km from home as early as 9-10 years old, it was lucky for the parents' health and sanity that they didn't know everything that happened when they were working.
As someone who worked a bit at the "The Norwegian School of Winter Warfare" formally known as the "NATO Centre of Excellence - Cold Weather Operations" while being in the 24-hr readiness part of the Home Guard after signing out from the army, this is not really representative of what is done. Basic winter conditioning is done at the home Company level.
This looks more like a condensed version of the basic winter indoctrination course that the Royal Marines U.S. Marines and other NATO friends come up to teach. Both the US and UK Marines bring their own arctic/mountain specialists to teach these programs for them with very limited Norwegian involvement.
It always confuses me that these "show programs" show only the "Norwegian welcome bath" Since the revolution it is not about jumping into cold water at all - it is about learning what to do after coming up from the drink without a sauna anywhere nearby. I guess this explains why I was never recruited as an entertainment producer for TV 🙂. I kind of get that jumping into cold water is more entertaining than watching how to quickly recover back to combat readiness.
It was a pleasant surprise to see them being taught to dig an emergency shelter rather than a true snow cave though. I do not think I ever dug a snow cave in service (it simply takes too much time unless you are designated to develop a long-term observation post). A well-done emergency shelter will bring the temperature inside up to zero (32 F) regardless of the outside temperature and deliver zero wind chill regardless of the outside temperature.
Tips for content that is more than "civilians pretend to join special forces":
Our Danish friends made a really great series about their initial selection for the Danish Jægerkopset (Hunter Corps).
Us Norwegian never showed anything substantial about our special forces, but it is a documentary, recently given English subtitles. Episode "zero" is about the "basic selection" where 450 candidates are invited from 1400 applicants (a lot are sorted out early based on civilian conscript test results of basic physical, IQ tests and assessments of being given a security clearance. Over a month they are reduced to 30 - and at the end, there are 14 who graduate. It is interesting because it is the training wing of the Norwegian FSK that is instructors for these highly selected conscripts. Their aim is to make them prepared to go to FSK selection later to start another year of education before becoming apprentices on an operational team. It is interesting (alongside the Danish documentary) since they both focus a lot on what they look for regarding mentality. (FSK is the brothers of UK SAS, US Delta, Danish "Jaegers" and the Dutch "Korps Commandotroepen", since Norway, Denmark and the Netherlands, of course, got trained by the British "Special Operations Executive" when our respective nations were occupied. All these nations also have "Frogmen" spawning off the British SBS for the same reasons (akin to American DEVGRU/SEAL-team 6).
Anyhow: both the Danish and Norwegian documentaries are really interesting because of the focus on the training wings of tier 1 SOF units guiding young men to become ready to go to selection for their own units later. It is interesting to watch how humble and level-headed the successful candidates are by heart. It is interesting to watch the lack of "boot-camp shouting in your face" going on.
I think you will analyse these documentaries with wisdom and experience since they are a bit more low-key than the average representation of SOF units on CZcams.
The link to the first episode of the Norwegian documentary finally being posted is czcams.com/video/gSlrN21zYwE/video.htmlsi=twDzFLevb9POeHcy (you must turn on the CC)
The link to the first episode of our Danish Brothers is czcams.com/video/k4NDZy1xhTo/video.htmlsi=vR_7lmL6V1um9zSH
I am sure you can take it away from here and advice with experience if you like to, my friend.
You are awesome my friend!! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain and to write of that. I will check out the videos. I think those would be good to watch and to react to 🙂. Hopefully I can sit down and react to them in the next few weeks or so. Either way, they’re definitely on my list.
Brrrr! I was cold just by watching this.
A standard M-107 artillery 155 mm shell weighs 43 Kg and contains 6.8 Kg TNT or Composition B explosives.
The 5 Kg of TNT explosion would be less than a 155mm artillery shell exploding near them, think what an artillery barrage would be like.
Ahh yes !! 🥶🥶 I would have been done the first night. I can’t handle the cold 😂
@@JustAnotherArmyVet This is a US military video from Northern Greece, on March 19, 2024:
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@@FLORATOSOTHON great thanks!
former Royal Norwegian Navy operator here. This looks easier on the screen than it is. The cold paralyzes your muscles so fast, it is literally a matter of seconds to get to dry land.
I agree. It does look easier than it actually is. 👍
@@JustAnotherArmyVet The worst part is after the dip imo. But im still here ;) U tough one. I salute you for your service. SF
@@reyalPRON respect from South Carolina 🌴💙🙂
As conscripts we had ABC cleaning in the middle of winter of course, a shower head nailed to a pine in the middle of the forest and then run into a heated tent and the whole regiment got to experience it, "blessed are the ignorant".
Thanks for sharing!!
very interesting video for me Dear Kylie My Dear Female American Soldier Friend. I love You so much too.🤗🥰😍🙏❤🤍💙🇺🇲💪🏻👍🎉🎊🔥
Thank you my dear friend ! I hope you and your family are well 🤗❤️🙏💙
Xboxer dave is pretty good for a gamer
Is there a certain game he specializes in?
25 kg?? I have walked continuesly for 8 hours, without a break, with 49 kg. :) But that was in Norwegian summer, I hate skies. :)
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@@JustAnotherArmyVet I was never in the army, or for 7 days, not because I don't like it or think we don't need it. I was young and a bit political radical. :) But I have trained all my life, weigths, martial arts, I'm a hunter and so on. I'm also a member of DFS herew in Norway, sort of an "undergroup" of the defence. It's partly paid by the Norwegian Defence ministry.
But...25 kg on skies...that IS different than walking trough the forest in summertime. :)
@@JustAnotherArmyVet Rigth now DFS have 135 000 members here. And we have 4 500 soldiers. And we have about 1,5 mill guns in a population of 5,5 mill people total. We have very capable people. :) The Norwegian defence isn't the army. It's the people.
@@user-we7vk5zg7l I appreciate your insight. I do not know a lot about Norway. I’ll have to start reacting to some more videos from Norway.
I`m from Norway
Greetings from South Carolina 🌴🙂!!.
Ok
And the snow caves...I have done this several times. "Get the rigth angle on the roof"...it'll be warm, dry and cosy...NO it wan't!! Youl, wake up with the roof an inch above your nose, damp, belove 0C. And there is this "heat growe" you dig in the entrence. Heat my A**. :D And now I will shut up. :D
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Ohhh, I hate cold water!!!!!
Me too!!! 🥶🥶
first, I don 't think it is worthy to show this kind of videos with civilians instead of soldiers. And second, I think you underestimate the noise of the blast. I remember, my first time in the range shooting G3 riffle, the only thing that surprised me was how loud it was. We were 10 soldiers in line pretty close to each other, and it was really loud. And generally, I think the most disturbing thing of using any military equipment, is how loud it can be.
Yes, I can’t imagine how loud it really was in person. You are right. And also, I did not know these were civilians and this was a reality show until after I was all set to react to the video. If I had known, I probably would have skipped this video. But, regardless, it’s still interesting to watch
Nope. Fck that. lol
I agree. 🤣.
Hello colleague!) I haven't visited your channel for a long time, I'm glad to come back and see your reactions. I don't think Norway is as familiar with winter as the Russians))) But the video is good, thanks
Hello my friend!! Thanks for coming back and for your kind words 🙂
@@JustAnotherArmyVet I love you!!!! From Russia!!!!
@@winteriscoming5735 greetings from South Carolina!! 💙🤗❤️
@@xxxx-kz7ch I am not surprised!