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How to Apply Stone to a Concrete wall, Block wall, Houses, Etc Part 2
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- čas přidán 16. 02. 2017
- This is the part 2 video of us showing how to apply the stone ledgers under the cantilever ledge to give your walls, houses, block walls or whatever you want to it on, a nicer look! So if this video helps any of you out don't forget to subscribe like and comment! We love to discuss our work with you out there and love the support! We got one more video coming to explain more in detail on how to form a cantilever edge so stay tuned!
OdellConcrete.com
I love the candor and knowledge of the narrator/owner. He comes off as competent and honest...something you look for in a good contractor.
Is it just me or does anyone else enjoy watching good honest folk working smart and hard at making stuff with their hands? At any rate great job Odell! I just may call you guys!
Don Bags
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Damn right! Too many cowboys out there. What would be humourous would be the same video but with a voice over by a dishonest contractor for entertainment purposes (but could also help educate us on things to look out for).
Man, I love watching your videos, strange how a lot of stuff done in the US is done differently in the UK but your dedication and perfectionist attitude is great!
sharky marky
Things done differently is likely do to conditions, but the outcome can be the same.
made that house look 100 x better great job!!
And, you RE-purposed and adapted as you went?! Priceless, adapting as you go.. love this video for lots of reasons. Such great narration: concise and clear, and really RELEVANT information, again WHILE the work is happening. Your explanation of events are fabulous. You are a teacher, and we ...."gonna LEARN today!" Thank you!
Great I had no idea, I think I found my purpose
Help I'm doing 650 sf lowe half of house below window about 4 ft and
Love it when you can tell someone KNOWS what they are doing. Great video.
Thanks for watching!
Wow, I'm so glad I found your channel. Such honesty and easy for a diy to understand. Hard to find these days. I appreciate the way you show everything you're doing and explain how and why. Many thanks from the Rockies in CO.
YW
GL
Thanks for the videos and I've got more ideas now for my yard. Love watching CZcams over regular tv any day.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you
It's nice to see someone who knows what they're doing and they do it well!
TY
That looks great. And doing the porch ties it all together nicely.
Your channel rocks. I’m doing a bunch of concrete work and I have learned so much from your videos. You are funny too. Great job!
,and another job well done..you guys really do nice work..we're always running around yelling at each other when doing concrete..you guys seem to really have your game together..love the videos please keep them coming, and thank you for posting.
TY
You are truly an artist with your abilities.
BadMasonry
I'm glad you can appreciate this.
it tells me you've done it.
remember I've been doing this for 30 years before internet, you tube , home depot, google, there's so much more.
Wow this is stunning and I love how beautiful it turned out. P.S. your voice is very relaxing lol 😂 totally chill and calm vibes listening to your videos.🤘🏼
TY
Great job! Thank you!
Looks good our concrete company is family owned operated as well. I would gladly have your boys on my crew you taught them well.
If you add a few cups of lime to your mix it makes it sticky no shims needed. Thanks for all the videos.
I'll try it
TY
Very impressive! It's funny how there is the 'best' in every industry. You want a guy like this to do your heart surgery, your accounting, your auto repair... one that is meticulous, knows what worked and didn't work from experience and does it the best way. The scary thing is that I know if I hired this guy it would be done right, but I don't know what I would get with a heart surgeon. All I'll know is that he went to school and got a medical degree... won't know if he is one of the worst around or the best.
So you drive by this house and think, "that looks nice" but you have no idea what went into it or that it will look just as good in five years unless you saw this video. Well done! And two great videos to watch from beginning to end. All I'm doing it making a retaining wall to keep my soil on my side of the fence, and got off on this great tangent. Thanks for taking the time to video this project... that too takes a lot of work, including the narration!
Andrew Valachei
good point.
wouldn't it be nice if everything was this straight forward.
Well Andrew Valachei, talk to his past patients... if there are none (living), he‘s probably not a good heart surgeon ^^
Really enjoy watching your videos. Great job!
TY
This is sooo cool!! I definitely want to get into doing projects like this. If I can only get my husband on board. Awesome job!!
Sounds good
GL
Ty
Bro looks great. I want that in my back yard. Great video.
You'll love it
As a DIY'er, I really enjoy your videos. Love that you put tips and tricks in there as well. You do great work! Keep it up!
mkb77
TY
Love the videos! Would Love to see the final shot after landscape is done!
Me to
Thanks for explaining this!!!! you were easy to listen to. Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Thank you for all of these videos.
YW
David, great job and great vid. Looks terrific!
TY
thank you for your shared knowledge. i needed to know what you showed. so thankyou
Your welcome
Love ur work sir
Looks fantastic
TY
You guys are artists!
TY
Kayinfso Here genius, GENIUS, these artists are!
Your videos are very informative. I'm glad that there's people like you trying to help do it yourselfers. There is such a sense of pride for individuals like myself that's able to satisfactorily completed projects that they have never worked with before. You have help me to impress my wives. Lol Thanks again.
PS
I want to create a step up patio. (One step) do you have any thoughts on how I should prep for my slab? Should It be below ground level, if so how many inches? Should I just simply place it above ground? How thick should my slab be?
Kewsi Mann
That's great
I enjoy watching, you do quality work.
Dan Barrett
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I Love it,. What a good idea. Lot of skills in making this beautiful wall bed. Great idea. I won’t be able to do this , just nice to see. Thank You.
YW
GL
nice job. guys,youre profesionals. thank you for share all your experience.
Thank you
Love your videos Odell. You showed me that I should hire a contractor to get it done right the first time. What should one budget for a project like that?
3500
This really help me to gain more knowledge in my studies.
Great
Great vid Mr. Odell. I want to try something similar in my back yard, but no corners... Straight. Looks like it’s a job for a crew however. Thanks for sharing.
YW
GL
I like this channel because I can relate to the work
TY
Great job! Awesome video.
TY
Nice! ...and thanks for speeding up the slow bits. ' Excellent teacher. Jim
YW
TY
Nice work Dave,
Ive found when working with panel stone its better to work from top most part of grade down to the bottom so your cuts arent as visible. I use ardex x77 which is a modified thinset mortar and put maybe 1/8"-3/16" of mud on the back of each stone. They stay right in place. Ardex makes alot of great products including this 8+9 material that works well to weather proof scratch coats and creates a very coarse bonding surface. Another advantage is your work is guaranteed and if the stone fails from water damage the company will reimburse the home owner for the project. I love ardex products, coming from using conproco type s and admix the coverage and strength of this new product is night and day. Enjoyed the video, keep them coming!
Mark Whitman
Thanks for the information.
I'll give it try.
I found with most coating products when push comes to shove on the warranty. These coating supply Companies want you to be a certified for there product. which means taking there class where every it may be held and paying the fees, plus you'll need to update your certificate every year $$$$$$
if this certificate isn't up to date the warranty is no good. Hopefully that Ardex dries instantly because if I start at the top I would have to hold stone there for along time otherwise the stone will fall to the bottom.
Odell Complete Concrete Actually its non sag when you install it. Ive started at the top of run and pressed and shaken the stones into place with +/- 1/16" movement. Its good stuff and cures quick.
Mark Whitman
wow I have to use that in the future.
The thinner layer of mud on the stone the closer you are to the substrate, less material less movement from sag, but the strength of this stuff allocates a demand for less material and in essence less waste.
Hey were all in it to have fun, learn more and make money for our families, good luck man, love the videos you guys do great work👍
Excellent! It looks great. Well done.
THESHOMROM
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THESHOMROM :
Great work sir and thank you for the video I’m oooking to do the same to our house and used concrete backer board for the first 2.5 feet similar to how y’all did on that house. Wish I’d do solid concrete though. Thanks again!!
TY
GL
Mr Smith this is an awesome build. I'm late at subscribing to your channel so I'm doing some catching up. I have read 90% of the comments associated with the videos I've watched so I know your looking to get a more steady video. Especially time lapse. I have seizures and I have to look away as I watch when you do time lapse.
God Bless from Houston Texas sir.
Thanks for watching.
You know you can slow it down on your end through the You Tube App.
Looks Great!
Cybertronian Home Maintenance
TY
Beautiful work.
TY
That color stone is perfect for that house. Looks nice dude.
Talk him into doing the white part under the windows
Alright good idea
Nice job. Suggest dust masks when working. Funny to see someone sit on the wall during the vid. Stone dressed up the front nicely.
i will never understand how workers dont protect their ears, nose and eyes... ive been through all possible trades to reno/remodel my house, and on a lot of jobs i didnt have the right PPE, and i learnt from that... especially when i grinded concret, i had no idea. I can always excuse myself ''it was once in a lifetime''... or whatever stupid thing that makes me feel more comfortable. But... so many people all trades mixed will omit to take care of their own safety.
That looks great❤
Thank you 😋
Nice job. Enjoyed it very much.
ty
I'm thinking for my house the outer forms will be stacked 2x4 wood with more character to make it more rustic and easier to remove. Or maybe that stone!
Great work!!
TY
looks good!
TY
Hi Jim,I am totally blown away at the quality of your work,professionalism and craftsmanship. I am a DIYer like many folk here. I live north of Denver and have a home here and Norcal. Would you please contact me? I had a question/proposal.
Sounds good
Good informative video comrade! 🙏
very nice work, not many real craftsmen left
I concur
TY
Excellent
TY
This video is good for my learning process
YW
Great Job!
neckarsulme TY
Awesome job you guys thank you
yw
I would have shot some stretched mesh over the blue paint. ODELL !!! Good job men !!
Michele Stone
Get it on
This looks amazing.. I have a couple raised beds in my back yard made out of wood but I think i'd like to make them out of concrete.
you'll only have to do it once in a lifetime unless you move
looking at your other videos I think you have a subscriber.. I have alot of projects in the works. I am also building a cabin on some property i own. Just puchased a concrete mixer.. It is ON! Thanks for all the informative videos! Cant wait to see whats next.
Nx2overide
Get it on
Great videos.....
shillyar
Ty
This is awesome and I plan to do this at my house! We also want to put stone veneer on our house and I've noticed that in some of the videos I've watched, sometimes they use some kind of metal mesh before applying the stone. What is that mesh and why don't you use that on the planter? What circumstances would you use that? Since it isn't in EVERY stone-on-house video, I've wondered if it depends on climate, state building codes, or maybe it's the weight of the stone?
Laurie Clarkson the mesh you are talking about is called metal lath. The lath is used when you are applying stone to wood surfaces, i.e. wood pillars at the front of a house, or the face walls of a garage that just have OSB on them. Before the lath is stapled or screwed on, you have to apply some kind of water barrier to protect the wood. In most applications 30-60 minute roofing paper works great.
Kerry Smith
sounds good
Thank you for clearing that up for me!
Nice project, I have a cinderblock chute on the exterior of my home. Still trying to figure out what to cover with it
Good luck
Very good video. You explained step by step. Question, I have a few of sprinkler in my backyard and the water hit a concrete planter and the color of the concrete is gone. I would like to put something to protect the concrete and look nice. What can I put to solve that problem? I know the stones will be looking great, but is expensive
Paint it or stucco
Looks a lot better!
I concur
Love your videos.
TY
Beautiful flower bed.
Thank you! Cheers!
I like a lot look beautiful that color is gourgeous.👍
Thank you! 🤗
These guys knows concrete the best in the West they are honest k .
TY
Hi there,
Thanks for the video its very helpful.
I do have one question ,what type of thinset should i use on my garage walls, i am in new england and is cold in here. Thanks
My guess is fast setting.
good job fellas.well done
Anthony Hayes
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Great vid great job. Tanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great Job! So a few questions - if someone is interested in just having concrete bed, how would you smooth out the bottom potion (2x12 form), like you did with the top? Also, are there different color concrete? Whiter color?
Thanks again - Love your videos, keep up the great work!
Sack it the next day
@@OdellCompleteConcrete - Sack it? what does that mean?! lol
Hi I heard using mortar type S instead of modified thin set. I still not sure which is better for the cold weather here below 0 degree. I was told using Mortar Type S. By others. But personally I THINK modified thin set is BETTER, what do you think.
Nice build
I just continued to watch and you said you did in fact used it on the forms.
YEs
Neatly done👌
ty
It might be wise to add a waterproofing membrane on the back side (dirt side) of that concrete wall. It helps prevent the water traveling to the back of the stone, causing separation between the mortar and stone because of freeze-thaw cycles. Great work though, that's a good looking veneer job!
Aaron Harrison
no freezing here
Like Mike Haduck says what works in California doesn't work in Pennsylvania etc etc.
William Jackson
That's for sure
Looks good. We just did a vaneer mosaic over cmu. Now for the caps. I notice the cmu is not real flat (manufacturing bumps). We will use mortar to set the 4 ft long caps. How thick you think the mortar should be?
3/8"
Look very good
Smart on the ripping and get stakes & 2 x 10 from it!
TY
At 2.10 , pipe wrenches , I didn't understand what happened. Do you use acrylic concrete bonder in mortar ? And I put a strip of drip edge all along the bottom of the stone. Coffee is wearing off, gotta go . You guys have the best videos out There !!!
TY
Not sure
Nice job, what is the frost like in your area? Thank you.
Frost? I heard of that. Isn't that some kind of weather phenomenon?
Lol...just braggin'. This is Southern California/ Orange County...we get one day of frost every two years or so. I'm not joking. A few years ago I was leaving home early in the morning and took pictures of the frost just so my kids could see it.
Do you need any type of drain holes or will this drain out through the bottom? I'm just thinking of heavy rain and topsoil wash out.
bpaullus
I believe it will go into the dirt.
Thought as much. I'm thinking about doing this and wanted to make sure I didn't need to incorporate drains. Thanks for your quick response! I have to add I have watched many of your videos and you do quality and professional work each and every time. You really help elevate your trade to the next level. I've worked alongside many concrete contractors who throw and go and don't really care about anything else. You are top-tier my friend.
I know what you mean. There's a lot of hacks out there winging it.
TY
It depends where you live, rainfall, soil conditions etc but where I live, if you build something like this you would absolutely incorporate drainage or you will have a pool and water held right next to your house. in my area if you go 6 inches down its non-absorbent clay, you need a lot of surface are to absorb rainfall, or if you build a structure like this you need to run out drain pipes in gravel trenches.
What is the difference between mortar and Thin Set? Is it better to use Thin Set instead of Type S mortar to attach veneer or real stone to cinder block? I hired someone to build a small (4 foot) rock wall. He attached real stone to cinder blocks using Type N mortar. That was 2 years ago and now most of the capstones have come off. So Type N wasn’t strong enough. What kind of mortar or adhesive would you recommend to glue them back on? I live in Maryland, so we get some heat and cold, but not extreme. Thank you so much for your help!
try concrete glue mixed with mortar or thin set mixed with mortar.
Thin set a polymers in it to bond
David, I apologize for calling you Jim,I was texting my buddy Jim about fishing at same time LOL.
Sure no problem
Hi Odell.
Im planning on adding stone veneer infront of house. Can stone be added to existing stucco or do I have to prep it with wonder board or something similar? I also have pillar style on corners that taper outward, not sure if its done with wood frame or foam. If its foam, what do should I do or use? Is it strong enough? Thanks.
You can attach to stucco, use glue.
beautiful job
ty
respect Mr.
DimasRoque Mascorro
TY
Thought you had to use a bonding agent when applying to painted surface
I learned to wire brush painted cement so that the stone would stay stay on longer, it does take some time but if it's your house, I really recommend doing it
Should of stripped the paint rather but it will stay for a good few years as long as it not a very wet place..
great work
TY
Just a suggestion. If you level the soil and lay the boards that are 10 inches that you previusly used, they will give you a nice level surface to keep leevel the bottom of the stones, then you have not to use the stakes at the bottom.
Sounds good
enjoyed your video. nice job. I've got a stucco wall on front exterior house would the install go pretty much the same or should i install cement board on top of painted stucco. and what about the vapor barrier? any help would be appreciated. thanks Larry
If the paint is good go for it. Probably need to get aggressive with some pressure washing first. Use some glue on the stucco as you go.
Can you use this method to install onto the foundation wall of the house?
WOW! Thanks for the awesome play-by-play! I just got a bid from someone to do my backyard and I can't even come close to affording it :-( So I told my husband I'll be watching CZcams a lot to learn how to do our own retaining walls this summer! Thanks to you, I have a more clear understanding of what I'm getting in to!!!! I feel both empowered AND scared!!!! LOL! Too bad you're not up in Monterey to help me :-)
I had a question: my backyard is currently all sand (we live on Fort Ord near the Dunes), and we have Redwood fences dividing our property from our neighbors' properties. Do I need to do a retainer wall up against the redwood fence to protect the fence from rotting? I plan on installing this same sort of retaining wall as in your video, but the raised bed in your video is up against a house. I keep thinking that if I back-fill my planter up against the fence, it will eventually rot - what 's your input? Also, I have a lot of retaining walls and planter boxes to do - on top of a lot of sand which is not currently level, nor is it entirely compacted sand. how do I make a level wall when the sand isn't?
Thank you for your time! And awesome job on that planter box!! It's beautiful!!!
Jennifer A. Mortimer
do a 4 sided retainer so it's not against the wood.
if the dirt is above the floor, then add drains in planter.
Jennifer A. Mortimer
right on
When cutting the stone panels lengthwise do you cut along the seam where they are glued together? Any tips for clean cuts?
If it works out to a seam yes, other wise I cut where it will fit. Water saw probably best
Hi, i am not planning to use stone on mine just bare concrete but i would like to texture the sides. Is it better to make some kind of pattern on the inside of the wood before you pour or wait and do the texture after the wood is removed and its still a little wet?
Form liners have all kinds of textures
Nice video man. Question do you have a video on building a retaining wall with footing on a slope? Vertical with down hill slope?
G Pena
Same as any footing, but steps in it.
i do have a video on that though
I really like this. What size is this planter box (sorry if I missed it in the video) and what ball park would a job for just the planter box cost if I contract someone to do it? And what is the best way to look up contractors who does this type of work?
Donna Ting
I like to use Angie's List because everybody on there is prescreened and qualified to do the job right the first time.
Donna Ting
list cost is around 3000
I've been looking online everywhere and nowhere can i find an answer to my question. Maybe you can see this question and answer it for me. I have concrete already poured in my backyard (12 X 16). I'm planning on doing a retaining wall like the one above that you did but a smaller one for seating/bench. Can I do this wall right on top of the concrete I already have? Or is it best to do it on the ground against the concrete? TYSM!
Will it be an actual retaining wall that prevents a significant amount of soil/rock from falling or just something like a planter? Based on what you said if it's even smaller than what's in this video you'll be fine pouring onto an existing pad- I would drill some holes for vertical rebar just to tie it into the slab and use some concrete bonding agent/primer. What you described seems much more like a cosmetic feature than anything structural.
Retaining walls are used to actually retain a load- and those can't just be poured like what you want to do. What you are looking for would be more like a raised planter, which won't be a problem.