MacBook Pro 16" vs 14" and what I picked for software dev

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  • Should you buy the 14" or the 16” MacBook Pro (M1 Max or M1 Pro) as a software developer? This video is a look at the difference between these from a software developer's point of view and what I've learned over the last few years of using a 16" machine.
    Audio clip where I compare the speakers is in this video here: • MacBook Pro 16" vs 14"...
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  • @AZisk
    @AZisk  Před 2 lety +21

    Missing Xcode clip is here: czcams.com/video/pWh1rnuhFQo/video.html , missing audio sample is here: czcams.com/video/ijdzLmRIO7k/video.html. 😅

    • @CricketStudio
      @CricketStudio Před 2 lety +1

      M1 Mac Mini 16GB good for programming, iOS & android app development with XCode & Android studio Or go for M1 max?

    • @davidascholer
      @davidascholer Před 2 lety +3

      Never pulled a 21 hour coding session?! You're lucky. I pulled one 2 days ago 😅 Not the first, not the last.

  • @curtisbridges
    @curtisbridges Před 2 lety +115

    For the "columns" measurement, you probably should close VS Code's side bar. They didn't look equal in size in the brief glimpse shown. (Yes, I know this isn't a scientific measurement but hey -- we're pedantic programmers here)

  • @si858
    @si858 Před rokem +20

    One thing to mention about the trackpad and running out of space is that, if you do run out of space you can literally just keep the original finger pressed down where it is at the edge of the trackpad and then use a finger from your other hand to continue dragging as much as you like from anywhere else on the track pad. As long as the original finger press is still held down you can drag and lift the other finger as much as you like and it will keep moving.

  • @WeronikaZubekart
    @WeronikaZubekart Před 2 lety +9

    I just got the 16” this weekend. I am an artist and graphic design is what I mostly do on it so screen size is a must so I can see everything well.

  • @Gus_Ellerm
    @Gus_Ellerm Před 2 lety +25

    Just a shout out that this content is fantastic. I am thinking of switching from windows (for the first time in my life) and these videos have really helped give me an impression of the machines day to day. Keep up the great work!

    • @grozaGolubei
      @grozaGolubei Před 2 lety

      And which size did you prefer? 16" or 14"?

    • @Gus_Ellerm
      @Gus_Ellerm Před 2 lety +2

      @@grozaGolubei I bought the larger 16". Not as portable, but the screen real estate is useful for programming & research. Its also one of the most good looking monitors I've seen, so that helps.

    • @grozaGolubei
      @grozaGolubei Před 2 lety

      @@Gus_Ellerm thanks

  • @Cycro1234
    @Cycro1234 Před 2 lety +7

    Have you done any battery tests between the two machines? Really curious to know how much battery gets used doing things like compiling large projects, basic vs code usage, etc.

  • @shankar3459
    @shankar3459 Před 2 lety +1

    Every bits of quirks covered, you are such an awesome person Alex 😃

  • @HelbaWavemaster
    @HelbaWavemaster Před 2 lety +29

    2:07 "Here is an Xcode project. And take a look at the menu at the top. You'll see that on the 16 inch model, the Xcode..." -- I stared so hard at the screen waiting to actually see the menu but womp womp lol

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks for pointing this out - I've added the clip to the video in my pinned comment

  • @arlencarlson
    @arlencarlson Před 2 lety +2

    Agree with you on the size issues on an airline. I run a 2012 MBP, and I feel cramped. Yet, here I am, considering the 16” model-because that is my preference. If (or more correctly) when I fly again, I will just have to live with the cramped airline usage. At least I know the machine will run cool on my lap. But with that said, the 14” vs 16” size is worth mentioning on this.

  • @revtane9
    @revtane9 Před 2 lety +1

    Is 16gb RAM and 512gb with 8 core CPU m1 pro enough for Visual Studio Xamarin Forms? I really need your help with this for me to decide. Thank you very much. On my 8gb RAM m1 mac mini I always experience crashing while programming on VS xamarin forms because of ram.

  • @saiprashanthdamodharan8305

    I am trying to decide between air and 14inch base version. I do basic stuff and more into coding in r and business intelligence visualization development like power bi, tableau and lite video editing. Also, I have the habit of keeping for long until it dies. I am moving from i7 7th gen. What is your suggestion?

  • @Spideyy2099
    @Spideyy2099 Před 2 lety

    Could you not put the taskbar on the top instead of the bottom? Then the notch is on the bar instead program

  • @igotisekaid
    @igotisekaid Před 2 lety

    How is the fan noise of the 14 inch; I will use it for visual studio code and some web browsing etc. As I plan to use it solely for college.

  • @AmazingHaze420
    @AmazingHaze420 Před 2 lety

    Is it a good practice to sometimes take the macbook from the power cord? I mean, I use mine always plugged so, I was wondering if this fine

  • @MachielGroeneveld
    @MachielGroeneveld Před 2 lety +22

    If you code on it as a primary display I wouldn’t want the 14 inch. I was happy to go from 15 to 16 inch in 2019

    • @jasonlee4209
      @jasonlee4209 Před 2 lety +2

      Well, i still can't decide. The 16inch is heavy but 14inch too small

  • @sameersmerchant
    @sameersmerchant Před 2 lety +1

    saw many videos, yours was the best

  • @petuniacortes3860
    @petuniacortes3860 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for sharing and all the time and creativity you put to make the videos. I would like to know your perspective, it's not clear to me if you're happy or satisfied with the new MacBook Pros, looks like in real world there is no too much difference for your workflow. with the M1. Please let us know and Thank you again, I love your videos.

  • @tosheen20
    @tosheen20 Před rokem

    Would you recommend m1 macbooks for front end development?

  • @user-artem.tkachenko
    @user-artem.tkachenko Před 2 lety

    what is overflow development?
    I thought you have been working on mobile app development.

  • @JeneSamura
    @JeneSamura Před 2 lety +10

    Is it overheating when you do a coding or typing on your lap? What is the most comfortable Macbook 14 or 16 to lie in bed with a laptop? can you open 80-100 tabs at once in browser without freezing? Is it overheating when you plugin external 1-2 monitors and what power usage laptops start using in 14 mac with 8 cores vs 16inch 10cores?

  • @josecardenas3682
    @josecardenas3682 Před 2 lety +8

    The notch is like you were in Remote Desktop, just with a fixed Center “bar”. 😀

  • @vv5179
    @vv5179 Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks for the real world review! I am typing this on a 2018 Macbook pro 13" The system is great and I hands down love the trackpad but the keyboard is lacking for any serious typing, screen is too small, the font too tiny AND increasing the font messes with the layout on the screen. Is the 14" any better - noticeably better than the 13"? Or do I need to go the 16" ? I like the 14 but I am replacing a desktop soon and need something portable with a keyboard for typing, decent default font size and a display that looks "proper" where I do not have to strain my eyes to read. Thanks!

    • @MKRVSKY
      @MKRVSKY Před 7 měsíci

      Friend, so what did you choose? I'm on the same path now and I can't choose. Thanks for the answer!

  • @harvestdelljones3499
    @harvestdelljones3499 Před 2 lety

    Great info!

  • @YuriySamorodov
    @YuriySamorodov Před 2 lety

    Just wondering if the palmrest vibrates when you play music through the speakers? Apple Macbook Air 2014 does making very unpleasant feeling when the one keeps their hands down on the keyboard.

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety +1

      It doesn't :)

  • @sonvu9329
    @sonvu9329 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you compare M1 pro 16GB vs 32GB?

  • @matthewrk84
    @matthewrk84 Před 2 lety +18

    Can you show VSCode with a vertical split? typically on a smaller device (incl my 15") id hide the project file list (cmd+b), turn off the minimap (View -> Show Minimap) and use it with a vertical split, e.g. code on left, test code on right. Often with the integrated terminal at the bottom too.

    • @axa993
      @axa993 Před 2 lety +3

      Ah, a man of culture

    • @conradtaylor29
      @conradtaylor29 Před 2 lety +3

      In the Apple Store with VSCode, I can tell you from actual hands-on experience that the 16" provides much better screen ergonomics than the 14". BTW, I was using 19pt font size on both the 14" and 16". Also, I closed the minimap and file navigator. In short, the 16" is perfect for vertical split-screen development but the 14" would require one to do a lot more horizontal scrolling. I have Late 2013 15" MacBook Pro and I plan to go with a 16" M1 Max with 64 GB RAM, 32 GPU, and 4 TB SSD.

  • @ShredzZ
    @ShredzZ Před 2 lety +3

    Gonna get 16 for iOS dev. I think screen size will be good enough to use it without external monitor.

  • @benpearce2044
    @benpearce2044 Před 2 lety +1

    Would you be able to run a couple of ML related benchmarks on the new machines, Alex? Maybe GeekbenchML? I’d be interested to know how the Max chips compare to the Pro. My 24core max arrived today and Id be interested to know how the 16 and 32 compare. Cheers!

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety

      How to run this on a Mac? This seems like a ios/android only app

  • @WildfireWhiz-bangs
    @WildfireWhiz-bangs Před 2 lety

    Alex (or anyone reading this with the knowledge), do you have any thoughts on 14” specs? I’m in the VERY early stages of learning development and am leaning toward buying the 14” and am quite confident that the base model will be overkill for anything I’ll be doing anytime soon. But, for the sake of future proofing a little I’m considering spec-ing it up a little. Would you think money is better spent going up to 32gb ram or the 10core CPU?

    • @ljwthurston
      @ljwthurston Před 2 lety

      You will need to run many vm soon. 32gb ram is better.

  • @gabrielpatalinjug7043
    @gabrielpatalinjug7043 Před 2 lety +5

    Cool review alex, been a fan for quite a while now and always love your "corny" jokes. xD
    I'm also a "Fullstackoverflow" developer and a fan of M1 chips.
    You're always been my go-to youtuber -- when in comes to laptops, since all of your reviews are related to programming. :D.
    Keep it up man! Keep on making cool contents.

  • @mcmackattackify
    @mcmackattackify Před 2 lety

    Nice video! Great job

  • @LarsRyeJeppesen
    @LarsRyeJeppesen Před 8 měsíci

    What would be nice - and I haven't found any clip anywhere.. is a good test and test of how these sizes affect when you work on places other than a desk. Couch, on the bed etc.. would nice to actúally see what it looks like.. how's the balance difference when the laptop is on your lap for example.. etc etc

  • @flipmacyt
    @flipmacyt Před rokem

    Hi do you have both?

  • @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
    @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Před 2 lety

    Macbook Pro 14 (1.6kg), Macbook Pro 15 (1.84kg) and Macbook Pro 16 (2.2kg) … 16 inch is so heavy damn shall we change to 14 inch ?

  • @VolkerKtnbch
    @VolkerKtnbch Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks again! I'm still good with my decision to order the 16" Max

    • @bw7112
      @bw7112 Před 2 lety

      may I ask what do you do so you need 16"?

    • @VolkerKtnbch
      @VolkerKtnbch Před 2 lety +1

      @@bw7112 Full Stack development

    • @dannieh9849
      @dannieh9849 Před 2 lety +2

      I did the same. Reason for me is mostly frontend. It’s very convenient to have bigger areas to work with in responsive web.
      Even when I do more backend stuff I tend to use lots of terminal windows, and it’s nice to be able to view many of them at the same time.
      I have external monitors, but I really value the times when I don’t have access to them. Like in meetings or other stuff.

  • @aleksandarpopovic3615
    @aleksandarpopovic3615 Před 2 lety +14

    attach 2 monitors, do usual staff,
    open couple project
    compile, recompile, open 20 tabs on chrome etc etc
    and then measure batery life and fan noise

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu Před 2 lety +6

      now that's real work add Discord and share your screen that's what I do with my mates

    • @rufuso4022
      @rufuso4022 Před 2 lety

      That’s what I do on my laptop everyday, and I’m using 2017 pro with 16 ram, sometime the fan spinning so loud and everything become so laggy still I don’t know if I should buy the new MacBook Pro

  • @serddel2168
    @serddel2168 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks

  • @garynagle3093
    @garynagle3093 Před 2 lety

    Nice comparison between the two.

  • @FelipeViaud
    @FelipeViaud Před 2 lety +5

    Hey, Alexander! Thanks for another great video! How about the specs on CPUs and GPUs for a developer? Do you have any idea on the differences between M1 Pro and Max (base models), development wise? I mean, is the difference that big between these two processors? I understand that it all depends on what I'll be coding, but maybe someone could help. Thanks again!

    • @benpearce2044
      @benpearce2044 Před 2 lety +2

      What kind of coding are you doing? If it’s mainly web stuff then really the M1 MacBook Air is more than sufficient, or the base Pro. If you are looking at heavy data science or machine learning work then that’s likely where the max will come in.

    • @FelipeViaud
      @FelipeViaud Před 2 lety +2

      @@benpearce2044 Thanks for the reply! I won't be using it for data science. I'll mainly be using it to run some VMs and Flutter. So I think that M1 Max (base model) will be overkill, right? The Air should do the job, but I'm looking for the better webcam, more than one external display and higher DPI of the Pro (I'll be coming from a 4K Dell, so I got used to that amazing resolution 😄)

    • @benpearce2044
      @benpearce2044 Před 2 lety +2

      @@FelipeViaud the display is fantastic I have to say, my 14inch 24gpu max arrived earlier today and it is fantastic to work on! 😁 The M1 pro chip with be great for you, only thing is how many VMs will you be looking to run simultaneously? As they do require a decent amount of memory to run. 🙂

    • @FelipeViaud
      @FelipeViaud Před 2 lety +3

      ​@@benpearce2044 Once you work on a high DPI display, it's a pain to go back to a FHD display 😁 About the VMs, I think that 16GB RAM would be fine for now. Maybe thinking about keeping it for the long run, I would get 32GB. That could be a 16-inch M1 Pro base model with 32GB (right now at U$ 2,899.00). I don't think I would need a better GPU spec.

    • @benpearce2044
      @benpearce2044 Před 2 lety +1

      @@FelipeViaud that sounds like a great choice to me!

  • @sefakpsz
    @sefakpsz Před 8 měsíci

    can you help me anyone m3 16.2 18gb vs m3 14.2 36gb ????

  • @blegys7959
    @blegys7959 Před 2 lety +1

    So, which macbook did u get and what’s the config?

  • @lenso010
    @lenso010 Před 2 lety +15

    I watched over 40 youtube reviews last 9 days to decide 16' or 14'. I bought 16' last night and I want to cancel my order for 14' . Once I cancel my order I can re-purchase 16' again. It is crazy. I can't decide. 14' is so sexy to move around but 16' has pretty screen for movies. Help me god.

    • @809sebas
      @809sebas Před 2 lety +2

      I’m in the exact same position! Man, I feel so tempted by the larger screen real state and the battery on the 16', but the 14' is SO much portable and lightweight… And I do emphasize on that bc I know I’ll be needing to take it with me in my bag every single day since I go to college. But I don’t have any set up at home with huge monitor, so the larger display kinda feels like the right choice since the extra space benefits my workflow… such a hard decision. Have you made up your mind yet? Lemme know if you do

    • @lenso010
      @lenso010 Před 2 lety +1

      @@809sebas It is crazy right? If I were in college I would go with 14’ definitely. Yesteday, I brought my old 15’ to store to compare 16’. Honestly the size and weight is almost same. 16’ has chunky heavy old 17’ just by look but it is not. That’s why I didn’t cancel my order. By the way either you buy 16 or 14’ you will make the right decision. They are the best product of 2021 in my opinion. I have not seen a single person talking bad about new MBPs. Actually, it is just overkill for most people in my opinion. I would easily settle down with 15’ lightweight first gen m1 chip with all ports and its amazing xdr screen.
      All the best with your new MBP.

    • @axiones
      @axiones Před 2 lety +1

      Same here, what was your choice at the end? Did you get the 16" or 14", I can't decide yet, such a dilemma since I'm thinking to get the MacBook for the long run :(

    • @lenso010
      @lenso010 Před 2 lety +2

      @@axiones I got 16’. It is amazing device. You dont think again the size after the first day. You dont need 14’ for any reason. You will love 16’

    • @axiones
      @axiones Před 2 lety +1

      @@lenso010 thanks, in fact I'm more on the 16" side, will take your words!

  • @thousandpetals
    @thousandpetals Před 2 lety +1

    Should I buy M1 13inch MBP (16gb, 512gb) or the 14inch (base variant 16gb, 512gb)...
    Android developer primarily..
    But here the 14inch is costing almost 1.5x the 13inch (seems a bit too much for me)
    How much difference would it create on a day to day life? Is it worth it?
    Looking for your suggestions. Thanks.

    • @benpearce2044
      @benpearce2044 Před 2 lety +2

      If you are going for an M1 base chip get the max book air - the MacBook Pro M1 is not worth the extra money. Then M1 MacBook Air is fantastic for android/Xcode development work for the price.

    • @PaulHojda
      @PaulHojda Před 2 lety +1

      Get an m1 MacBook Air with 16gb. The 13" pro is not worth it, the air gives pretty much the same performance for cheaper.

    • @meliotablet
      @meliotablet Před 2 lety +2

      Hey, also an Android Developer here. If you decide to buy an M1 mac, definitely buy 16gb ram. I recommend air over pro cuz there are almost no differences between them and air is cheaper.

  • @shankarraj3433
    @shankarraj3433 Před 2 lety

    Thanks.

  • @nagavaishnavigaddam
    @nagavaishnavigaddam Před 2 lety

    What about specs, give us what specs are you comparing

  • @user-pz5xl2io5m
    @user-pz5xl2io5m Před rokem

    this is the vid i needed as a data scientist

  • @meeDamian
    @meeDamian Před rokem

    8:48 the left side panel is way wider on the 14 inch

  • @chuvvyyk
    @chuvvyyk Před 2 lety

    м1 vs m1 pro in xcode please!

  • @facundofarall7716
    @facundofarall7716 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video! I am in between putting 200 more either in 1TB or the 16" model, this really helps. Do you think 16GB unified memory is enough for development, like in Unity, mobile and some data science in python? Considering that I'd probably have the laptop for 4/5 years give or take. Or should I try to upgrade to 32GB for 400 extra?

    • @petereriksson6760
      @petereriksson6760 Před 2 lety +2

      I would certainly not get less than 32…

    • @Lola2012ful
      @Lola2012ful Před 2 lety +1

      16 RAM M1 is like 32 RAM Intel, just FYI

    • @facundofarall7716
      @facundofarall7716 Před 2 lety +1

      @@petereriksson6760 why? Any particular reason?

    • @vadymstruk7583
      @vadymstruk7583 Před 2 lety

      I would suggest upgrading to 32GB. I have 2019 Macbook pro i9 with 16GB. Having Chrome open and running build or just running the game in Unity almost maxes out my ram. Usually at around 13-14GB out of 16. Super easy to max out 16GB at least for me when I have more that 1 project running in Xcode or. Unity. and some other apps in the background.
      Waiting for my 16" m1 Max with 64GB ram right now!

    • @facundofarall7716
      @facundofarall7716 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Lola2012ful that's what I've been reading, I come from a Windows PC and wanted to upgrade, and if I were getting a windows it'd be a 32GB, but with the MBP is it worth 400 more?

  • @truefirstmagic
    @truefirstmagic Před 2 lety +5

    I guess Alexander has never experienced extended crunch times. :) Quite a few times I've done *really* long coding sessions, with my longest one being close to 32 hours. Of course, I was near power the entire time, so wouldn't need a 21 hour battery life, but still: obnoxiously long coding sessions do happen. :o

    • @mrsai4740
      @mrsai4740 Před 2 lety +1

      If you professionally code, you're doing at least 6 hours on a normal work day. 2 hours seems like nothing

    • @dinoscheidt
      @dinoscheidt Před 2 lety +2

      And if you do crunch time, I’d have a word with who ever is managing you.

  • @kapilkant4545
    @kapilkant4545 Před 3 měsíci

    Great Video!
    About the notch, if we use background with black colour(at least on top part is black), then the top bar is entirely black and the notch is not very obvious.
    The problem you shared remains though.

  • @michaellatta
    @michaellatta Před 2 lety +4

    Battery life mostly matters on long flights. For that I carry a spare 100w USB-C battery

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety

      Pretty good idea

    • @reardelt
      @reardelt Před 2 lety

      Can you charge a macbook using the usb c port?

    • @reardelt
      @reardelt Před 2 lety

      I mean charge the 2021 14/16 inch macbooks

    • @michaellatta
      @michaellatta Před 2 lety

      @@reardelt yes

  • @dreamer9393
    @dreamer9393 Před 2 lety

    This guy is legend

  • @MrHD71
    @MrHD71 Před 2 lety +3

    So what MacBook did he choose in the end?

  • @matthewetherton7503
    @matthewetherton7503 Před 2 lety

    What specs did you choose on the MacBooks for software dev?

  • @Paul__108__
    @Paul__108__ Před 2 lety

    14 inch: your choice of Pro silicon [*not* Max (throttling, battery)] 32g or more memory if needed (VMs), 96w power…
    27 inch monitors for office/home.

  • @VandamBerbecu
    @VandamBerbecu Před 2 lety +2

    If M1 Max does not need so much cooling as the previous i9, why did Apple make the laptop thicker, heavier and bulkier?

    • @Anonymous-vh9tc
      @Anonymous-vh9tc Před 2 lety

      It absolutely doesn’t, no need to question it. I have 3 high refreshing rate high res monitors plugged in and the bottom doesn’t even get warm no matter what I do. My old 2019 gets toasty as soon as I plug in a 4K display and it gets really loud.

    • @Anonymous-vh9tc
      @Anonymous-vh9tc Před 2 lety +1

      Also to answer you question, the new shape is more uniform where as the old one tapers off, they are about the same thickness. The air intake on the new ones are a lot larger. I think apple wants the laptop to run without audible fan noise 99% of the time

    • @reardelt
      @reardelt Před 2 lety

      Because of more ports, especially HDMI and also because of liquid retina display. That's why it is thicker.

  • @LaurenBuchholz
    @LaurenBuchholz Před 2 lety +4

    Also, don't forget that Apple Care + is more expensive on the 16" as well. I am really happy with the 14" 10/16 core 1TB unit. I have been using a Lenovo P53 with a xeon and 4k OLED for some time, and the macbook is faster in most uses, in some dramatically, but I get more than 3.5 hours using it unplugged...

    • @oddcustody805
      @oddcustody805 Před rokem

      Do you ever feel the 14 inches of screen real estate is too short?

  • @guims357
    @guims357 Před 2 lety +10

    it's funny, I Carry with me a MSI GT70 from 2014, it weight with the PSU, i dont know, maybe 7KG? so, when someone says 2.2kg is heavy, I laught and my spine stop cracking

    • @ZlodeyMr
      @ZlodeyMr Před 2 lety

      Everything is relative. For me MPB16 feels incredibly heavy after switching from Air M1. I just don't understand why he weighs so much, It just feels like full of concrete inside as one of commenters here mentioned

    • @guims357
      @guims357 Před 2 lety

      @@ZlodeyMr I use a MSI gt 70 that weights 4kg +1,5 power

  • @hugodsa89
    @hugodsa89 Před 2 lety +1

    I also pick my dev machine by the lines of code that it fits Kappa.

  • @SwuuschifyMe
    @SwuuschifyMe Před 2 lety

    Great work Alex! The speakers are actually the same exact size though, the grill is for aesthethics

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for the clarification, however, it sounds different to me with the 16 bass coming through better

    • @leonugraha
      @leonugraha Před 2 lety

      Thanks for the info. Maybe 16" sounds better because of echo as the speaker is house inside a larger chassis?

  • @TheDeeStain
    @TheDeeStain Před 2 lety

    I want to get one but I have the MacBook Pro 16 2019 i9 full upgraded so I'm a little hesitant on if it's worth it. This laptop doesn't struggle with anything it's just loud with the fans.

    • @ZlodeyMr
      @ZlodeyMr Před 2 lety

      MPB 16 2019 is a beautiful machine. If you're ok with performance and battery life and fan noise doesn't bother you, I would stick with 2019 for a while to make it pay off and then upgrade to M2/M3 or whatever to get more noticeable difference in performance. Plus keep in mind that there is still unoptimised/not working soft on M1

  • @jmpersic
    @jmpersic Před 2 lety +1

    I'd like to see how many python threads I can spawn on this machine when mine finally comes. Man that sounds really weird when I read it back to myself.

    • @BrieoRobino
      @BrieoRobino Před 2 lety

      You realize python doesn't do true multithreading? All of your threads will still run in one process.

    • @jmpersic
      @jmpersic Před 2 lety

      @@BrieoRobino I do. But that one process that handle's python's "virtual threads" can be faster or slower depending on the chip, no?

    • @BrieoRobino
      @BrieoRobino Před 2 lety

      @@jmpersic probably.

    • @jmpersic
      @jmpersic Před 2 lety

      @@BrieoRobino My initial comment was meant to be a little humorous, but it does turn out I CAN spawn more threads and run faster scripts on the M1 than my previous windows machine, a Hades Canyon SOC. I'd hit diminishing returns on the intel chip and have to dial back the number of threads, but on the M1 I can add a few more and get some extra speed out of it. Anyhow, that's cool.

  •  Před 2 lety

    Hide the dock!! Thanks! P.S. Menubar also.

  • @MrUnique960
    @MrUnique960 Před 2 lety +13

    I'm torn between 14" and 16", as well as torn between M1 Pro 10 core and M1 Max.
    I am leaning for the 14. I hate the fact the menu breaks with the notch on the 14, because I do have a lot tools that have many menu items and many status icons. I do want portability, because I'll code on top of a mountain or coffee shops. I also have an ultrawide at home. So maybe smaller screen isn't a problem at home.
    I don't know anymore. What about performance, I'm a web dev and I've got docker running and couple of servers running too. So maybe it's more Ram intensive rather than an M1 Pro 10 core or M1 max?

    • @MrUnique960
      @MrUnique960 Před 2 lety

      Also let's say if I wanted m1 Max 14", but that's custom config that takes time to get to my doorstep.

    • @benpearce2044
      @benpearce2044 Před 2 lety +5

      Performance is basically the same on the 14inch or 16inch. If you want the portability and have a nice monitor at home then I’d go with the 14inch. 🙂

    • @ricosrealm
      @ricosrealm Před 2 lety +4

      If you are at home most of the time for work, then just go 14" and use the monitor. 14" is going to be better on the go, but if you travel a lot and need the extra real estate, then go for the 16". Other than that, I think the cooling is another issue... 16" does stay cooler than the 14" but this is only for heavy CPU tasks like rendering 3d scenes.

    • @dannyw9314
      @dannyw9314 Před 2 lety +2

      are you running VMs and with current work flow have you checked your memory usage? TBH I was most concerned about that with multiple environments open, too many tabs, and VM if you need it but memory swap seems to handle it pretty effectively. I've seen comparisons betwen 16 and 32 gb and higher still has memory swap occurring. I think most people can still run the base model 14 with a heavy workflow and be more efficient than most of the systems that devs are currently using.

    • @abdj_live
      @abdj_live Před rokem

      You can use utilities like Bartender.

  • @noeldillabough
    @noeldillabough Před 2 lety +3

    You haven't done 21 hour all nighters? I haven't done them lately but back in the day while walking uphill both ways I sure did :) I gotta go for the big screen because vision!

  • @varunmotiyani7684
    @varunmotiyani7684 Před 2 lety

    Awesome

  • @larsjeppesen8109
    @larsjeppesen8109 Před 2 lety

    Regarding characters and length: if you use stuff like Prettier, you will never lines that long...

  • @motorbikeray
    @motorbikeray Před 2 lety +1

    I watched your video twice and didn't find the conclusion of your video's title... did you choose the 14" or 16" MacBook Pro for software dev? I'm guessing the 16".

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety +3

      16”

    • @motorbikeray
      @motorbikeray Před 2 lety +1

      @@AZisk Thank you 👍

    • @C33A
      @C33A Před 2 lety +2

      @@AZisk Which version did you keep? With M1 Pro or M1 Max chip?

  • @norcal6181
    @norcal6181 Před 2 lety +1

    I got the 16 inch because my local apple store only had the 10 core m1 pro in 16 inch and the 8 core m1 pro in 14 inch. I wanted to 10 core with a preference for the 14 inch. I went for the 16 for the 10 core. This thing feels like its full of concrete.

  • @abhinavthukral7636
    @abhinavthukral7636 Před 2 lety +1

    As a Javascript/Flutter Dev, is 32 GB RAM upgrade worth it?

    • @CitAllHearItAll
      @CitAllHearItAll Před 2 lety +6

      My experience as a dev is that if you need to ask, you don't need to upgrade. Running into performance issues because of increased memory pressure is very noticable! You can also keep an eye on your Activity Monitor to get a feel for how much RAM you are actually using. Hope this helps!

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss Před 2 lety +9

    As nice as the new machines are, I'm far more interested in an M1 Max mini. I need lots of screen for development, and I far prefer a mechanical keyboard like a Happy Hacker. I hate looking down at a screen, and if I want sound, I'd much rather hook up some real studio monitors.

    • @murtadha96
      @murtadha96 Před 2 lety

      Exactly. That's why I consider a laptop for pure mobility. Why get a larger screen in a laptop that I won't use for very extended periods of time? Those extended sessions will most likely be on my desktop, which is powerful, has a very large screen, a comfortable chair, a mechanical keyboard...etc. I want a laptop for mobility.

    • @dinoscheidt
      @dinoscheidt Před 2 lety +3

      I have my MacBook plugged in to two large curved monitors. Almost never have it out / open it. 🤷🏻‍♂️ But if I’d have to take it somewhere, no problem. A mini has no advantage despite price.

    • @axxeny
      @axxeny Před 2 lety

      @@dinoscheidt despite? Maybe ‘other than’?

  • @2sangmang77
    @2sangmang77 Před rokem

    Overflow stack developer 🤣🤣🤣
    잘 보고 있습니다. 늦게 구독했어요!

  • @RamazanYAGMUR
    @RamazanYAGMUR Před 6 měsíci

    I watched hundreds of videos. And decided 16" then it arrived , 5 days were enough to change my mind. I was not looking for ultra mobile laptop but still 16 felt not right. I returned and now waiting for 14" to arrive. Thanks apple for allowing the returns. If not i would have to live with wrong choice for few years.

  • @kandilyabra
    @kandilyabra Před 2 lety

    yeah, but how many fps in DotA 2?

  • @bugged1212
    @bugged1212 Před 2 lety +9

    I got the 14 inch, 24 core, m1 max, 32 ram, 1 tb. Most of my dev work is with an external screen, And I also own a 16 inch intel pro, and 16 is just too heavy to lug around. There is nothing that 16 inch M1 Max does that 14 inch does not. And if you need extra battery on the go, just get a 50 watt Mi powerbank, that should give you a full charge on the 14 inch. That's like 30 hours (heck even 15 of high intensity work would be great) of desktop performance on the go, more than most would ever need

    • @benpearce2044
      @benpearce2044 Před 2 lety +1

      Literally identical reasoning to me! Very much enjoying mine as we speak 😁

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu Před 2 lety

      what do you do that requires M1 max
      the only Software Eng I know are Game Dev in-which Win is better than MacOS but why would an App/web dev need an M1 max I support the 32 shared memory option cuz of swapping & the SSD gate issue

    • @bugged1212
      @bugged1212 Před 2 lety

      @@ko-Daegu Why not, there’s a bunch of work on AI etc that is way faster on the max. And sorry windows sucks for a developer, it would slam productivity levels, no one i know works on a windows machine professionally. It’s either a mac or linux.

    • @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
      @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Před 2 lety

      How long the battery last? Can you post link for tnt power bank?

    • @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
      @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Před 2 lety

      @@bugged1212 Why didn’t you go for 32 core?

  • @profkg6613
    @profkg6613 Před 2 lety

    If you are using extended screens, the 14 inch is the best choice

    • @reardelt
      @reardelt Před 2 lety

      yes but it does overheat because of the smaller fans

  • @elliotpianocovers
    @elliotpianocovers Před 2 lety +1

    your dry humor grew on me haha. nice comparison

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety

      My dry humor is like fungus

  • @rbutov
    @rbutov Před 2 lety

    what was your choice?)

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety +1

      I’m giving the 16 a good old try.

    • @rbutov
      @rbutov Před 2 lety

      @@AZisk max +64gb+ 2tb?)

  • @PatrickSierak
    @PatrickSierak Před 2 lety

    You didn't say which you picked?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety

      It’s literally in the thumbnail:) i went with 16

  • @shifatul
    @shifatul Před 2 lety

    overflow stack developer

  • @q1blaqi
    @q1blaqi Před 2 lety +1

    lol overstack dev great one!😁😁🤣

  • @angelopetrelli1083
    @angelopetrelli1083 Před 2 lety

    Cheers mate,....👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍

  • @LarsRyeJeppesen
    @LarsRyeJeppesen Před 8 měsíci +2

    I'm really in doubt here.. as a dev, we usually work in full screen mode for apps anyway (VSCode, Browser), so is it really really that much better with 16" vs 14". If you cannot see all your lines of code without scrolling, you should probably refactor anyway :)

  • @afixithei.V
    @afixithei.V Před 11 měsíci

    I wouldrather just a smaller screen. If a need a bigger screen, I will get a large smart tv inmy living room

  • @PRAGEETHKARUNADHEERA
    @PRAGEETHKARUNADHEERA Před 2 lety

    My 14 inch Max, even charged with my many years old Google Pixel 5 charger (which can provide maximum of 9V at 2A). Yes the charging was slow compared to the Apple brick, but it the job.

  • @alienmorf
    @alienmorf Před 2 lety +2

    и еще - у 16" нет быстрой зарядки через type-c, а у 14" есть, в дороге это важно, если потеряете зарядку, можно зарядиться хоть от првербанка)))

  • @mrsai4740
    @mrsai4740 Před 2 lety +1

    "notches are in" - almost no one

  • @Andy_81
    @Andy_81 Před 2 lety

    So @Alexander what did you finally purchase/pick or do we need to guess 16 inch lol :)

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 2 lety +2

      16”

    • @Andy_81
      @Andy_81 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AZisk thanks for your reply.. 👍 I am returning my 14 inch and getting 16” .. Your videos seriously helps make decision. Kudos and keep doing great work. :)

    • @xmarkclx
      @xmarkclx Před 2 lety

      @@AZisk 32GB or 16GB?

  • @gdargdar91
    @gdargdar91 Před 2 lety +18

    Factors: CPU (at least upgrade to 10 core one), RAM (consider getting 32 GBs), Bandwidth (consider max chip, even a binned one with 24 core gpu), SSD speed (512 is slower, consider getting at least a TB)

    • @luukbrugge
      @luukbrugge Před 2 lety +4

      Why should I consider the 32 GBs? I don't need it I guess

    • @andrewn211
      @andrewn211 Před 2 lety +7

      8 cores for me is plenty, I only got 1tb of storage instead of 512. Upgrading for extra ram is also pretty expensive

    • @luukbrugge
      @luukbrugge Před 2 lety +1

      @@andrewn211 Yeah I'm thinking to do the same configuration!

    • @andrewn211
      @andrewn211 Před 2 lety +1

      @@luukbrugge Cool! Enjoy the new laptop :)

    • @Andy98221
      @Andy98221 Před 2 lety

      Is the 512gb SSD slower than the others? Can you detail it a bit more? I wasn't aware of that

  • @alienmorf
    @alienmorf Před 2 lety +2

    дома подключаю к внешнему монитору, клавиатуре, мышке и нормальному трекпаду. на коленях удобнее работать тоже удобнее с маленьким. 16" раньше выбирали из-за видеокарты, сейчас, при одинаковых спецификациях, выбор для меня очевиден - 14" в максималке кроме диска, его достаточно и 1Тб))) 16 дюймов - это не носимый ноутбук, а скорее стационарный. очень ждал выхода именно таких макбуков, равных по железу, но с разными диагоналями, за это готов простить челку и лишние ненужные порты)

  • @expatcentral
    @expatcentral Před 2 lety

    I don’t think you said which one you chose.

  • @user-ry8dr4uo9o
    @user-ry8dr4uo9o Před 2 lety

    Is 64GB over kill for coding?

    • @ZlodeyMr
      @ZlodeyMr Před 2 lety

      It depends. I do frontend and for me even 16Gb is waste of money because Air M1 8Gb was absolutely enough, but I went for MPB16 because I wanted bigger screen.

    • @RACAPE
      @RACAPE Před 2 lety

      @@ZlodeyMr really? So MacBook Pro M1 Pro 14 inch with 16gb ram and 1TB storage will be fine for web development, some light room and learning x code?

  • @zuev_roman
    @zuev_roman Před 2 lety

    What if we put so many thumbs up that Alex stops being a developer... It's a good video, but we need a developer who is blogging, not a blogger who is developing.
    P.S. nevertheless thumbs up

  • @dougsteel7414
    @dougsteel7414 Před 2 lety

    I guess if you have the money, why wouldn't you buy the expensive one?

  • @justStardust940
    @justStardust940 Před 2 lety

    you didn't reveal which you chose

  • @ashiksaeed5027
    @ashiksaeed5027 Před 2 lety +1

    **WTF** - Stands for web template framework?? i mean WTF???

  • @jot7917
    @jot7917 Před 2 lety

    You didn’t say what you picked.

  • @abedmerhi96
    @abedmerhi96 Před 2 lety

    Unityyyyyyyyyy 3d plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • @alextarlovsky
    @alextarlovsky Před rokem

    You're not going to be just coding for 21 hours. Might want to throw some compilation in there. Building in Xcode, Building with gradle/maven. these things eat battery life if you've ever worked on medium to large sized projects. With 16 inch you're realistically looking at 6-7 hours battery life when it's at 100% capacity brand new. When looking beyond 5+ years - because this computer is a long term investment - you'll be seeing around 4-5 hours coding time with it's battery.