BMW i4 Interior Breakdown | Tesla & Rivian Comparisons
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2022
- Carl dives in to the BMW i4 interior, with some valuable comparisons.
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Carl definitely needs to do every interior review. No bs just honest opinions and facts based on actual industry knowledge!
review was awesome and very informative.
Carl is the absolute GOAT. Amazing review!
I love Sandy and the whole team but Carl’s review is the realest video yet. So good.
Thanks for watching, Matt!
“You are gonna order it in whatever color you like, if you are a MERCEDES buyer”? First thirty seconds is gold. Couldn’t wait to see the rest of it 😂😂😂
CARL is a Comdian, complete w/ Squeeky Shoes and RED nose.
At first, I thought a 'slip of the tongue'.. then took a double take.. and started laughing.
Also, the «….OK» at 12:05 is priceless ! Timing and execution is impeccable.
@@markplott4820 this Christmas, we should have him dress as Sandy Clause instead😂
I find it fascinating how Carl and other Munro experts see things so differently than the rest of us. Really provides insight to design choices.
Carl, and all the other Munrovians, are becoming better and better CZcams presenters.
any video without sandy is great.
Carl was a great presentator from day one!
I agree
It’s notable how much engineering and cost is required to make a car look and feel a certain way.
Carl, thank you for honestly evaluating this vehicle and sharing your honest, expert opinion.
Great stuff from Carl as always! Makes you think about so many overlooked aspects and then ties it in well with this amazing seeming car being essentially a commuter with some carbon fiber thrown in
And only $82K!
@@raleedy great styling though.. despite the 2XL kidney beans
@@raleedy This is 82k without the more expensive seats. So yeah
@@raleedy this is probably the most expensive it gets though. It starts from about 20K less haha
Another great Monroe video. Thank you Carl for sharing your knowledge, it gives me more tools to critically look at all kinds of products. Keep up the amazing content!
Carl is great treasure of Munro! I kind of like him better than other guys, good work Carl!
I did not know what to expect watching this video but Carl made it super interesting... I was not even aware I could be fascinated by interior production and design decisions. I would love more videos like this as well. Great job and video. :)
10:37 I think they didn't use the double stitching on the armrest also for comfort reasons. The stiching may feel slightly uncomfortable on the skin of your lower arm if you don’t wear clothing with long sleeves.
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The double stitching should not effect you tho. It on the corners of the arm rest, I've double sticking there on my KIA and do not have any problem or discomfort from it being there.
Well, you get the double stitching for the center arm rest when you option for more premium leather. So this is just being cheap with Sensatec interior option.
eg www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/14-bmw-i4-2022-road-test-review-dashboard.jpg?itok=7a3hpTNX
Pretty honest and thru and thru review. Thank you! Great Job!
Thanks for watching!
301,000 subscribers so far because of this type of excellent content!
Brilliant review. Have really learnt something that I can apply when I look for my next car
Very unique interior review, took me long enough to get here!! Thank you.
I learn a lot from these types of videos. Especially like getting a sense of the way you see things as well as the things you point out… Thanks!
Carl is a knowledgable strait shooter, like Munro actually. Great stuff, thanks!
What an eye for detail and superb knowledge of manufacturing. Fascinating!
THANKYOU FOR THIS VIDEO! I was so curious about an in depth review of the sensatec material. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Well presented, Carl. I am a material junky as well and fully understand your thoughts on this. BMW wants to be more than they can live up to even though this car is still nice but it lacks behind in many ways. Thanks a lot.
Good review. You explain things in a very understandable way. (Don’t tell Sandy, but you are the best presenter.)
I love the honesty and I hope BMW sees it and continues to give you vehicles to review it will only motivate them to get better
To be fair, this is essentially a 3-/4- series with a different power train. So most parts have to be in the lowest end 3-series as well
That! You shouldn't stretch a platform further than you can stretch its vinyl.
hmm so sad after they did I3 and i8 back decade ago. SO sad. They should just dial a bit back all that futuristic tech back then.... And listen Mounro or teams alike how to make profit...
Exactly. You can get a less-equipped 5 Series for 20k less and still end up with a more sophisticated interior than this i4. The base car is always the limiting factor. Interiors of higher specced models aren't manufactured differently than those of lower specced models - they're just treated with different surface materials and that's it.
Sure. The point of the reviewer is not that it looks cheap, it is that it looks cheap and it's not cheap. 3/4 series are cheap, they don't cost 90k like this one, and as the reviewer points out, if it's because it's electric, well, there are electric cars that are better for half the price.
@@pedroteixeira4369 You can get a 90k 3-series, if you want to. But it will still be a 3-series. Most parts will still be identical to the base model. And that's the point. it's a cheap car with some nice looking pricy options.
Just got a M340i to 107k, without checking every option.
I love the comparasion and the conclusions. Great video!
Nice job Carl!
Thanks, Tony!
Great presentation thanks for getting into all the details
Great video love the honest and informative commentary
Great presentation. Thanks Carl.
Thanks Carl. Good job.
Carl's awesome...I always enjoy his videos and learn a ton by his thoughtful and thorough delivery.
I am afraid an average bmw buyer (I am one as well, so I am most likely biased) cares more about handling characteristics than back of the front seats. BMW knows it and allocates value accordingly.
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic video with awesome information and observation. Some people like old things so it's good to have options.
Love seeing Carl as always!
Great video man!
Great view of the interior. Super points!! Great at spotting bad designs cost choices
Carl, Thanks for the Review, fantastic and Honest.
Very honest review. Great content.
Excellent, straight up review Carl. Thanks for being clear and concise. I felt the car more sport than luxury ~
Awesome, honest, and experience-informed review. There really is a balance between performance, cost, and aesthetics when it comes to design decisions.
Very honest review, totally agreed, will hold my order to it and wait.
Cool review. Thx
Thanks for watching!
This was a great video. Love the technical explanation.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great video from Carl! This guy could have his own channel and would be rocking! I love the fact that how the arm rest is put together be the thing that interested him the most. Love when he explains the pros and cons of an execution form the builder point of views. The insights about cost and materials, form over function, etc. In this case, from my pov this car looks amazing and I would love to have one. The design is so beatiful in the interior, but it has its bad things like interior espace and quality of materials for that price point
To say nothing about BMW just tossing in a battery making the car weigh 2 tons range of 230 miles for $82k LOL
@@b4804514 the M50 is not a good buy, the RWD is like 20K less and has easy 300++ miles of range.
good review
Great engineering design analysis by
Carl. Thanks!
really good points there
Carl, I love you're tutorial, there are fantastic, although I am a BMW fan, I see your point 👍
Great job Carl. I made a comment on a prior video of this vehicle and gave it a Ho Humm rating. Now I am even more inclined to go Ho Humm!!
That's how you introduce a video ! Nice job Carl !
Thanks, Carl, I learned a lot and you "justified" my feelings when it ones to critiquing car interiors. Unfortunately, these days it seems the price point of cars doesn't make sense.
I think every electric car is being sold no matter the price, so in a way the price point does seem to make sense
Carl's videos are probably my favorite
Great video and really puts in perspective what you are paying for a car and how the OEM's market the product! As a customer are you just paying for the Is it for the Brand and status name or for the value that you are getting for your product!- Great video and thank you "Team Munro"
Very well done! Loved it. Sadly, I agree, I see no reason to by this over the "base" version if I was focused only on BMW electrics.
GOOD REVIEW.
You say you are a big guy. Thanks for letting us know!!
I would be interested to know which cars are at half the price of this but with better interiors in terms of materials and construction, or premium how it was mentioned at the end of the review.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Amazing explanations and you have a radio voice
Excellent. Call it how you see it !
Thanks, very interesting to get a professional insight on the type/luxury level of cars since the price has drastically increased. Indeed justification is not in the furniture, you demonstrate this. I think bmw like others is testing its pricing power during the transition period to all electrical vehicles.
Car journos are always praising BMW interiors, I’ve been underwhelmed for 20 yrs or so, Carl just nailed the explanation for me!
I agree car journo’s are often biased. I lost faith when I drove a ford Mondeo praised universally for its handling which wasn’t a patch on the Subaru which was superior in every way. The ford handled like a boat, yet so many reviewers praised the handling.
I loved this video! 👍🏼
Can you do the same kind of review for the leather dashboard (4M5) option?
Thanks for the insight!! This really goes to show the power of marketing. So clearly the interior is just 'average'.... would be nice to have an expert go through the drivetrain/suspension, electrical, exterior fit/finish and so on. Thanks again Munro Team! :)
“We’re about to reach 300,000 subscribers. I don’t really know what that means.” Corey just spit out his lunch 😂
Thanks Carl for your excellent detailed review. Am more interested in the less expensive i4 M40. Would be interesting to see how that models quality compaires with this M50.
The i4 eDrive40 and the i4 M50 have essentially all the same components. There are some options available for the M50 that are not offered for the e40 like 20" tires and bigger brakes, but for most purposes they are the same car with the big exception of the M50 being dual-motor AWD. The M50 gets a lot more power from the second motor but sacrifices some range - 12miles between trims with same wheels.
Thanks, Carl! Very enlightening overview. I'm also surprised at the price point compared to interior design.
Yeah and it’s not like the power and performance is so amazing on this thing.. a $57k performance model 3 will wreck this BMW.. in acceleration.. in top speed.. in range.. only a numpty BMW fan would throw their money away on this thing.. but hey.. whatever
@@airheart1 On the other hand, the Tesla is much noisier and has a far less refined ride.
@@scottsoloway much noisier?? Lol please.. what a crock of shit.. a tiny bit noisier.. yes.. still quite quiet in Tesla. And I hope that makes them feel better with $20k less in their pocket.. and the Model 3 and Y smoke the goofy beaver faced M 😆
So much for the days when an M was the best performing vehicle for its price 😆 the M department HAS to be embarrassed as hell to put their badge on this thing. I guess when you don’t have the knowhow and technology to build the best anymore, you come up with a new metric to measure.. now M’s are the most quiet! Wow.. what a f’n accomplishment BMW 👏😂😂
Tolle, interessante Présentation.
Fantastic video by Carl, as always. From the start in your first video, you were a star. I agree with other commenters, Carl should consider having a separate channel, perhaps reviewing the interior of older AND newer cars. I would like him to compare let's say a new super high end S-class Mercedes to let's say a jaguar from the 60's or the 70s. Anyway, keep it up!
Carl,
I’m 6’2” so I loved the backseat evaluation!
Thank you
That should always be done by talk and short examples.
My husband is 6-3 and loves small cars. But he doesn’t understand no one else in the family could comfortably sit behind him. I’m tempted to make him sit in the back one day so he’ll understand the pain.
Very cool presentation! You’ve got me starting to love my $3/4M M3P IP!!! Can’t stand BMW’s clutter of legacy knobs & buttons. My Mazda RX-8 has way more (proven) height accommodative back seats (along with its best ever, fronts)!
If it has the sensatec option, yes its vinyl.
Interesting detail at the armrest. In my 2020 3-Series, the wrap is done with 2 french seams. Maybe they changed it as a part of the LCI. In addition, the shoulders of the driver's seat are made of leather in my car (i.e. they wear out just like that).
I have had leather interiors and leather cracks over time unless you look after it so if the vinyl lasts longer, is it a bad thing? I have a mode 3 and haven’t seen anyone on CZcams complaining of cracked vinyl yet. Anyone know which one will actually hold up better?
Did they do a material analysis to come to the conclusion it is vinyl? 🤔
Carl is awesome.
Some interesting insights but at the end of the day I don't really care how something was formed or processed. The end result in the Bimmer is objectively better than a Model 3. The materials feel softer and more premium and it's quieter and more sturdy feeling when you drive it. The Model 3 just skipped all the interior parts which are the most difficult to get right: vents and buttons. On things like the steering wheel however you see that the interior (compared to a Model S) was one big cost cutting exercise. The i4 interior is also not what you should expect from an 80k BMW. A 60k 5 Series will get you something significantly nicer. That's the problem of the i4 sharing the interior with 3 Series that start at half the price. It's a bit of a dilemma when you spec out a lower level car instead of going for the next bigger model with less equipment.
Hard no. This has fake premium written all over it and Carl just layered out why. And you are right about not caring about how something is formed & processed, but just as high on the "not important" list is all the things that go into making something "look" premium like being softer or threading and blah blah blah. The end result is the Model 3 is a better car with a much better value because of the things that actually matter at the end of the day...driver experience. The Model 3 didn't "skip all the interior parts", They just packaged it better and made it more convenient. having less moving parts like buttons and vent shifter/shutters that eventually break and are the first to display wear and tear, is a MUCH better choice in the long run. The real luxury or as I call it Modern Luxury is in the integrated software. Thats where the real value is. Like controlling air flow of the a/c on the screen or having convenient and accessible menus instead of physical button everywhere. In the end, while new and jarring at first, the consumer gets used to these changes and then usually prefers them. Stepping into Legacy car brands feels like going back in time.
The difference in the quality of the steering wheel is huge. The convenience of being able to control functions of the car without looking for it on a menu is huge. A car isn’t an iPad. Even a split second distraction could make difference between an accident happening or not. BMW design choices focus on the driving experience. There is gadgetry, but not at the expense of that experience. It is a balance. Consider also Tesla’s decision not to offer HUD or Carplay/Android Auto. BMW offers it wirelessly which is again consistent with their philosophy on minimizing points of distraction. The driver doesn’t have to fumble around with connecting up their phone to the head unit.
Fit like a glove
Great video! For context, please give an example of a car design that made the low investment, low piece price sacrifice.
I'd get the M40 variant for a better range and value. But the details and quality of this presentation is matched by no one.
BUG BMW - Big Ugly Grill adds $20k
A bit too much focus on the stitches / leather for me, would like to see more instrument panel focus / general interior :)
Carl!
Great stuff!
And you're right with your meaning that for 83k $ there has to be more luxury in that car!
But you know ist only a conversion car, so BMW is not really on the way to BEVs. They still try to hold on Mr. Zipse's "3 drive trains on one production line strategy"! So in the same line they produce ICE, Hybrid and EV. That's extremely expensive and not very efficient.
Thanks for your video!
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Because they still have to lean on the classic cars, they sell shit load of them.
Carl, I’ve heard in Canada the Model Y starts at $CAD85K 🙀.
Can you say it justifies that price to match what you said about this i4?
I don’t think either is worth that kind of money, but people seem to have the dough…
Great insights from you, thanks for sharing your expertise. 👍🏼
I tend to look at interiors differently now after seeing what you see.
How can you compare pricing from two different countries? To compare, add about $25K to the BMW in Canada. Furthermore, the tesla has MUCH more room for both passengers and luggage, accelerates faster and has more range. I won't talk about fast charging locations...
@@jeangourdeau946 merci!
When i was testing the i4 all the materials felt really good. The quality for me as a customer seems very high. When i compare this to a Model 3.... i prefere the BMW 1000 percent! But i dont look at the interiour as you do. I am just a carenthusiast 😊😊
Yet Tesla use 95% of same materials as BMW does. So idk why people prefer other brands so much more but don't realise it's the same materials. 80k+ car with plastic parts in door and back of seats is a no go for me, surely not for a legacy brand as BMW. My KIA had full leather seats with full leather back pockets. That car cost 1/3 of this car price...
For this car BMW ask for premium price for a standard design, putting fake carbon fibre on interior does not make it premium. 80k+ for a 3 series is just pricing themselves out of any competition. Feel this is just another EV platform they release to show they care about EV. But in the end they don't really care.
@@pipooh1 Since everything that was reviewed on this i4 M50 in this video can be found on the base i4 eDrive50, would you say this is appropriate for a $56K car? This particular car they are looking at has nearly $10K just in paint, carbon exterior bling, and 20" range-sucking wheels options.
@@KurtSeiffert 55k is still too much. It has 3 series interior and a performance body pack. So it should be max 55k full option, with he EV rebate you prob looking at a 45-50k car, not 65k what a edrive would cost you. The 55k edrive has a stock interior and with german brands stock mean NOTHING. Add any options and m package and you easily hit 60k+ which is 15k above what this car should cost. Look at VW, they give same car while aiming 10k lower in price with the Passat.
Carl‘s in the video, boom, now they’re at 300k+ subscribers😉
How is this 82.000 USD? i4 starts at 55.000. Is this the M version? If so why is it not stated in the video? Or at least when the price is mentioned?
Congrats for this courageous criticism. Perceived quality, positioning, price is a complex equation. I understand that the brand BMW justifies the price more than the real quality of the components.
Why would the perforated part of the seat be leather and the other parts not?
You guys all seem to mention "French seams" a lot. What are they? Are they supposed to be better than other kinds of seams or do some people just think they look better? I've had my BMW for 9 years and I couldn't tell you what kind of seams it has because I don't really care as long as they don't fall apart.
I wonder if the heated seats work. *cough*
Hello Carl, we were wondering what your favorite car is right now overall and favorite car would be based upon your interior specialty?
Is this the Vernasca leather?
Does this BWM have a seat warmer subscription for $18 a month?
Is this a running gag like the fake about Mercedes rear steering subscription?
The black back plastic keeps shoe marks off that would show on light colors. The seat belts and kid seat tie-downs are black too. The fact that it is the first EV in the BMW M performance series makes you have pay +80k BEFORE dealer markups...
That's pretty much the interior across the board for the 3/4 series cars and SUVs. I would not expect BMW to come up with different assembly processes for the interior based on overall price. They have hit both the 40k mark with all vinyl and the 80k+ mark with mixed material. Even the 5/6 class of vehicles take the same approach in a lot of ways. Most of the upgrades are in real materials (leather, carbon fiber, wood) and better gadgets.
Munro - You should simplify assembly and use common parts.
Munro Also - These seat backs should all be different colors.
You can order blush leather seats which is all leather. Some EV owners don't want animal products in their car. It's the dual motor version. So it has a 12K cost over the RWD edrive40.
I've learned more about interiors from Carl here than I knew was possible. I am starting to notice many of the details he points out in my own vehicles, and now I'm getting disappointed lol.
Carl, 👍
The badge adds at least 40k!!