Is This 280zx Beyond Saving?
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
- I just watched a 1980 280ZX cross the block @mecum mecum_auctions for 231K! Another 1981 for $150K... these cars are coming up in the market!!! But, is this one too far gone? I tried
not to be sucked in by the memories I have of these wonderful S130 cars, I had one many years ago... This one may be more than I bargained for... Would Vice Grip Garage rescue this car? Derek Bieri probably wouldn't fit in it, but that's besides the point. All abandoned cars are worth at least TRYING to save, right? Check out www/paintucation.com/cinevee/ for streaming paint and body project videos.
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Ok, spoiler alert.... I hope you like the styling on these S130 cars, cause a guy did a thing....😂
I luv it, not just because of the styling. Also, because I love watching a guy put some love into a car he truly cares for. I'm right there with you on my 81 Bronco project. I had one as a youngster and had to have another. Rock on brother 🤘
@@rubenfranco9046check out my 1978 Bronco XLT 460
Years ago I bought a low mileage ‘82 turbo zx 5 speed for cheap because it had a bad turbo. I bought a rebuild kit and some HKS upgrades and had a really fun car. Always loved the styling, looking forward to your build.
@@fanpe68 Turbo car would have been nice... maybe I can upgrade.... :)
Flat plane coyote.... backed by a 6 speed...
Currently, I am restoring my 1979 Datsun 280ZX as well. I'll be interested to see this one brought back from the dead. Fortunately, mine is not this far gone. However, this man is correct on several points here. It takes time. Be patient. They are great and fun little cars.
Love watching Kevin analyze a car front to back.
This guy reminds me of my best friend who used to do this type of work that he does. Unfortunately, my friend Russell passed away a couple of months ago due to a heart attack. I love watching these videos so far. It reminds me so much of Russell.
Sorry about your friend. Thanks for finding the channel, thanks for watching! R.I.P Russel.
Hey Kevin, I wanted to write and tell you I have a 13 jeep wrangler jk and it came with the factory crinkle finish plastic fender - flares. Everyone hates them cause they fade and if not taken care of chalk up..well I purchased a set of used smooth finished factory body color matched ones. Which to me make it look so much better style wise and looks wise. Yeah everyone always yanks off the factory flares for the flat fender look. The ones I purchased were for a black factory color mine is the white pw 7 code. So I sanded the scratches out and used high-er build spray can primer sanded smooth 2 coats, then purchased the base color in the spray cans and the matching 2K clear that you pull the button on the bottom to add hardner to clearcoat. I'll be honest an experienced eye might can tell but it turned out as good as factory ( color matched, amount of clear applied) or better. The only reason I went that route is I'm in a rental home no shop, no garage nothing. So I needed a fast drying quality clearcoat that's durable. I literally painted and cleared the parts on my covered front porch !. You'd be so proud. I do have alot of paint product experience as I worked at a Dupont and PPG paint supply dealers when I was younger and were the guys painters come to when they don't know right.? Anyway just wanted to tell people sometimes you don't need high dollar spray guns and equipment to get excellent results just use great products to get great results..never be affaid to just do it.
My first car was a 76, 280Z. It was a love hate relationship. Wish I still had it.
I cannot wait for the start of this project. I had a 1982 280zx 2+2 silver color. My current wife at the time wanted one herself. Found a similar one just like yours for her. My best friend Patrick from high school started a restoration business about forty minutes north of where I lived. Drove every day in the early morning to weld and restore the Z as I worked the late shift. Came out beautiful like showroom condition. For what ever reason she was on top of my case to get rid of my Z. I got rid of my Z but then I got rid of her after 12 years of marriage. Luckily no children. Remarried and my daughter and I flew to,Roswell Ga to purchase a 1983 280zx 2+2 same color just a year newer. One owner gentlemen that originally lived in Hawaii and was in the military service. I am excited to see the progress and I have to look because I think years ago I purchased your paintucation videos or cds. Good to see you again and with an old friend your 280zx.
Thanks for sharing that... our cars are markers in time... It's good to be able to go back! Thanks for watching. :)
High school girlfriend’s mom had a 280ZX turbo. Kept it and got a 1987 300zx. When ever we went out she’d let us take either one. I thought she was a cool mom. She was and still is but later I learned why I got to drive them. I had a Bronco with “too much” room!!!
Where there's a will, there's a way!!! Those seats lean back alot! 😆
I'll be watching this, I really want an early 70's 240Z. I served in the Army with a guy that had a new one in 1976, he let me drive it and holy moly what a great car. I've always liked these.
Thank you for saving it!! from another 280zx owner it's worth saving, yours is decent condition because most of these are totally rotted away. 1500 for that complete car is a steal!
Really enjoying seeing you around again and doing the CZcams thing. Digging this content.
I'm really enjoying doing CZcams!! Thanks for watching!!
Whenever a video begins with the words "I used to have one......" you know good judgement, along with Elvis, has left the building!
Common sense has left the chat! 😆
Its has taken me 20 years to get my 82 turbo running, thousands of hours, around 20 thousand dollars, still needs to be painted, but there is nothing better then driving one of these cars. Caution....memories can cost you alot
I know it will be amazing when it's done. I love a Z car. I probably would have passed on that one due to the smell and holes in it, and simply I don't have that attachment to that model - but I absolutely understand it. I spent a lot of time with a early '70's 240z, and it would be my pic of Z-cars to own. But - the cars I'd spend stupid money restoring are odd. Our family had a lot of Opels around '75-'84. I love those things, they're simple, quirky, and unique. I'd want to restore a 1972 Manta Rallye in orange and black. And a copper metallic and black 1969 Kadett Rallye fastback. Those are my dream cars. If I had a lottery garage, it would have weird stuff. Like a restored bronze 1987 Isuzu Trooper 2-door, a black 1984 Dodge Colt GTS Turbo, Custom candy apple green with lace and metal flake 1965 Ford Econoline pickup restomod with V8,auto, and air. But the center piece would be Opels.
Paintucation, oh the memories. Circa 2005. The forum, the videos, the learning, then the doing. Antagonizing that Len guy on Autobodyforum. Thanks Kevin!
Len was so mad at me!!! I've still never figured that out. Thanks for the reminder! Glad you've stuck with me all this time man!
Thank you!!!! Glad we're both still here! 😄
Loved my 1976 280Z I had. Great running, handling good looking car!
Had a ‘77 that got wrecked, then got a ‘78 that smoked through the valves so not as spunky. Early eighties I paid $1200 apiece. Hard to work on, unibody, tough to find parts, dash cracks make my skin crawl. This is a rungs above restore, I’m subscribed and watching. I’m in if you are. I never drove anything remotely more fun than a straight Z that was running right.
I'm gonna pull it down soon and see how "bad" it really is.... Fingers crossed.
If you do it you should come out west for a parts car for the sheet metal. There’s 2x2’s that share the undercarriage and uni structure that are going for a song. I don’t know where this car is from but I was a Midwest boy and looking at the rust you have, well, the thin metal and a sandblaster are going to make for a bad day. I got my fingers crossed and I’m going to be watching. If you can get the structure sound, and it looks straight, the motor and trans are bomber. They won’t fight you.
I get it man. I know what it is to have an emotional attachment to a vehicle.
Like you Kevin I owned one of these except mine was an 82 280zx 2+2 in a maroon. Actually inherited it from brother when when he took it off the road for stalling when it got warm. After sitting in my father's yard for the better part of 6 years in the cold CT winters, went out shot some oil down the bores and put a new battery in. Cranked it over to see if it would build oil pressure or for that matter if it would even crank, and it literally fired right up like it had just been sitting overnight! It scared the hell out of me! 7 years prior to this we put on a breand new head which we ported and polished, along with headers and Flowmaster exhaust. We had a Nissan technician loosen up the spring on the Airflow meter door and along with the previous modications really made this engine love to rev! The reason it was taken off the road like I said, was the Ignition Module was bad (common problem) and a $230 replacement allowed it to run like new. After sitting so long, the clutch was frozen to the pressure plate, but after about 20-25 bump starts in gear it finally broke free. These engines really were "bullett proof" if decently maintained, but yes, the achilles heel even almost 30 years ago, was rust. The coolest part about this car was the mini record player (concealed in the hatchback area) about the size of a cigarette pack, that would play the voice prompts through the cars speakers if the door was ajar or the headlights were on. So, for all those people who would say your wasting your time restoring one in that condition, haven't owned one. Truth be told, I'm a "hand's on" guy, but that car would even be too much for me, of course body work was never my forte. My advice ,find another donor car that has a better interior and other bits for around the same price, and that could save you some money in the long run. Good luck!
Heard, Chef.... I'll peel the onion on this one... we'll see what she shows us.
I had one of these cars. It was a hand-me-down from my dad. They were great cars when they were new but a complete nightmare to keep on the road once they reached the 10-year mark. And my car spent its entire life in California in a garage. So my car was well taken care of its entire life and never sat undriven for more than a month and it was just one problem after another with it. These model-year Z cars have lots of electrical problems that will drive you crazy trying to diagnose and repair. And if it's not electrical then it's one of the hundreds of vacuum hoses that will either come loose or just crack from old age which will make these cars run terribly if at all. The biggest problem you are going to have is replacing all the plastic parts on these cars because they don't make those parts anymore and it will cost you a small fortune to buy those parts if you can even find them in good condition still. And these model year Z cars have a ton of plastic parts on them that for sure will be extremely brittle after 45 years of use. You will probably break most of the plastic pieces that you try to take off of it when you work on them which is extremely frustrating. You would be better off getting an older 240 Z which has way less plastic to break on you. The 240 Z was built a lot more simple and is way more easy to work on and keep running reliably. The 280 Z model cars were built with way too much electronics and vacuum hoses, especially the later year ones. It doesn't matter how good you take care of these model cars, you will find yourself having to constantly be repairing and replacing parts on those cars and you will be spending a lot of time and money just trying to find good used parts for it because you will have to replace every single piece of plastic on that car and you will never be able to catch up to the amount of parts that you will need because it can take you a very long time to source these parts in good condition. and you have to remember that you will be replacing your cracked 45-year-old plastic parts with non-cracked yet 45-year-old parts so these cars will never be like new again because of the amount of plastic parts that they don't make anymore. Even if you find one that was completely restored to look like it was brand new again, that car will be a ticking time bomb and will need to have all of its plastic parts replaced as they will start to crack even if you store the car in a climate cooled garage and hardly ever drive it. It's not the metal on these cars that is the problem, it's the amount of plastic these cars have to make them look great and work properly that will cause you to have a constant migraine headache. The earlier model 280s were not as bad though as the later model ones which are an electrical nightmare even when they were brand new. I had a friend who had got one when he graduated high school and it was the top-of-the-line turbo model with a digital dashboard and every possible add-on that car came with and he got rid of that car after only 3 years of ownership because it was always having to be repaired for something. That car was amazing when it was running properly. It looked better than practically every other sports car made at that time and it performed better than most of them too but they were not reliable anymore due to the amount of cheaply made electronic and plastic parts. The 300 models were way better built than the 280s were but they too suffered from some of the same kind of electric components problems that made those cars run well. But there is no doubt that the 300 and the 350 z model cars were designed better and used better quality parts than the 280s ever were. They can still be a bit of a pain but nowhere near as much of a pain as those 280s are. That's why you never see these cars on the road anymore. Their last owners had enough of them and they just gave up on them entirely. The amount of time and the cost didn't make any sense to try to keep them driving reliably anymore. Datsuns or Nissans in the 80s were all known to have electrical problems compared to Toyotas or Hondas and even Mazdas with their crazy rotary motors. Nissan didn't get better till the 90s when they were built the best and were cheap reliable cars that performed very well. That lasted till about the mid-2000s, because after that Nissans started to have problems due to them starting to use cheap quality parts that didn't last very long. So if you have to deal with rust problems on top of all those cars' electrical problems and the impossible-to-find cheap plastic parts, I would say you were crazy to try to bring that car back to life again. Because whoever ends up buying that car will not be a happy camper a month after he buys that car from you and he will feel like you ripped him off. There is a very good reason why somebody abandoned that car and it probably didn't even have any rust problems when they decided to abandon it. That car was obviously abandoned too or you wouldn't have found all of those parts stored in the back of it. That car's engine might have problems too that you won't find out about till you are able to get it back on the road again. The wheels alone will cost you probably over a thousand dollars to sort out properly and you will never be able to get more than 10k for that car no matter how much money and time you spend on it because of the miles that car probably has. You never mentioned that car's mileage and if you have all that car's repair records which is what would make that car worth more money. The cars you saw at those auctions were all low-mile heavily documented and were taken care of since the day they rolled out of the factory. They were not trashed and abandoned like this car obviously is. Those cars probably have all original Datsun parts with the exception of the tires because that wouldn't be safe to drive with that old of a tire. You will not be using all original parts to get that car working again and that will lower the value of that car a ton. You would be a sucker to buy that car from you for more than 5k if it's even worth that.
I had a ZX...and a 260...and a 240. They aren't the ones that got away, however, they all ran really well, and they were in good shape body-wise.
I'm glad you're going to rescue this one. Both the car and you deserve it. Looking forward to this upcoming series.
Thanks man!
Never a car so dangerous to a fellers heart as the one that looks like the one that got away. Good thing he's set up to take on this project, or it would have broken his heart to let this one go to rust. Looking forward to the restore!
Kind of lost track of you since LedZed, Found you again with Vise grip. I am not an import guy but I will watch based solely on your enthusiasm for the car.
We can make a 'HYBRID" with maybe some GM Muscle.... ? Thanks for watching! I'll make ya proud on this one.
@@paintucation I think swaps are over done at this point. Only way I would do that was if the car was incomplete. I had a ratted out 74 Z28 in high school. As a Camaro guy all grown up I got a 67 RS/SS ragtop. Sometimes I miss the 74 and almost wish I had it instead of my 67. I understand your desire for your high school car.
looking forward to this one.
Can’t wait to see this one come back!
So glad you bought it. I had an 82 ZX, and loved it. Had to sell it almost 20 years ago, but really wish I still had it. Can't wait to see what you do with it.
I'm excited to see what you have in store for us thanks for the excellent content
Thanks for watching!!!
I had a 79 280 ZX around 12 years ago. My interior was great the body was great the motor was pretty good & all electrics worked fine, But underneath all the structual stuff was rotted. At the time I found an entire flooring & frame rails kit online for $800 AU (I'm an Ozzy). It started at the 280 size but could be cut down for the smaller models according to their website. I can't remember who they were now. I think they were an English Co. I never got to fix the car & I sold it to a local Z club. I was in the middle of a divorse & lost a lot of stuff. If I remember that Co. I'll let you know. Anyway good luck. They also had photos of all the parts they sell & not just for Z's. You mentioned an English Co. in the vid. Might be the same one. I just typed in floor pans for 280 ZX & it came up top of the list. The shipping cost was pretty cheap too. Cheers Kevin.
I can’t wait to see you restore it. It’s going to be educational for all of us.
Gonna do my best!
Thanks for your videos can't wait to see how it turns out
Brings back memories I bought an 82 turbo t top car 5 speed for 500.00 in 01 and I raced the heck out of it .. regret selling it .. most of I miss Bitching Betty telling my my door was ajar.. being her back bud ill be watching.
Hey Kevin, it's Wayne from Alberta. Looking forward to following you on your journey with the 1979 🙂
Glad you bought it. I look forward to watching you refurb this one!
Very cool. Looking forward to it...
I love the paint colors on this one! Looking forward to it
Looking forward to seeing this one done.
Fresh video. Nice!
Always liked these cars. My first car and first experience working on my own stuff was my beloved '90 240sx so I'm really looking forward to this one! Thanks for the great content!
Kevin so elated to see this 280zx project. Ive got a 79 S130 in my garage that needs some TLC and Im excited to apply what you're doing here to my very own.
I'm definitely looking forward to watching you restore this car. I'm sure it will be amazing when you're done with it.
I'm glad i found you i love your videos
I'm fired up for this one. I can't wait until you start it. Because I know it's going to be great when you're done.
Can’t wait to see it come alive again!
I had a buddy in Dothan AL whose dad would buy his kids the latest generation Datsun Z when they reached driver's age. His oldest sister had (and sold) a '71 240z, the middle son had a '76 280z 2+2 (don't ask me why but he wanted the 2+2), and my bud got a '79 280zx, 5sp manual in that very color combo- blue/silver. We had a lot of fun bombing around the Wiregrass area of Lower Alabama in that ZX!
Awesome story!!! This car is from Tennessee, who knows where it has actually been!
Hell yeah Kevin, I'm fired up for this project.
I am really enjoying your Channel. I love your enthusiasm your positivity just your energy overall.
As for the car I think it's in really good shape for a 79 I've seen these that were really rough that people wanted more money than that for and being that it means something to you I think it's absolutely worth it.
Keep up the great content man I'm loving it.
And I'm so excited to watch you build this car
Great video! Can't wait to see how this project moves along. Hardtop S130 is super cool. Good luck!
I totally agree!!! I'm excited!!
Nice find!!!
My very first car was the 77 Datsun 280z with the Nissan in line 6 and 5 speed transmission. I miss that car, I had a lot of fun in it, some legal, some not so much. lol
My first car was a 72 240 Z......Yea the one that got away....Dam it. Love em all.
Right on brotha !! Be interesting to see how it goes . I’m in
I love watching these videos this guy's pretty good pretty smart
Very cool project, great video good luck 👍🏻
Awesome car! Can't wait to see you restore it 😊 I'm especially interested in how you're going to fix the rust around the windshield. Never seen anybody do that before besides calk & duck tape 🤔 LOL.
I'm interested too .. I'll have to see how much it goes into the channel.... To be honest more worried about that than the frame rails, and I'm pretty worried about the frame rails.
I’m doing the same thing to.a 63 chevyII so totally get it and I’m in 8 k so far and it’s almost done thanks for the video and inspiration (or justifying the spending )lol
Cool! Glad that seems accurate to you as well.
Cant Wait!!
Very cool! I've always had a soft spot for the lady's. Mike
looking forward to the up coming videos. By the way the idea behind the twin latches on the jaguar hood/bonnet was so that two people would open it! if one person just opens it from one side of the vehicle, this twists the metal and can cause stress cracks.
Got it..... Still a PITA to adjust...
I love that car I had a 79 280zx black 5 speed
Always been a fan of these, maybe you can find a donor car for some of the hard to find pieces? It may add to the total cost ,but in 5he long run it would save you some labor. Good luck with the project, can’t wait to see the results
Thanks. I would love to get my 1989 Conquest ( the first car I ever bought new ) rolling again and off the jacks out of my garage. Between you and ViceGrip, I feel there is hope but I don't what I am doing, and don't have $35K to have someone do it for me. So on the jacks it stays.
Cool can't wait Love those Datsuns/ Nissans
Cool! Make it the best you can!
HAaaa !!
Welcome to Punishment Lane !
Hope it is a easy and magical restoration.
I'm rebuilding two of these suckers, pulled down to the bare chassis and built back up. I'm still on the first one. The frame rails are gone just behind the engine compartment. The floor pans are gone at the sides and front and back, but the middle is good. I've gotten about half the rust repaired. It's not been too bad. Choose your cuts carefully and the metal will be pretty simple in geometry to refabticate.
Were you able to find any replacement frame rails? Or are you making your own?
You didnt get it running and drive it 650 miles home? Lame! 😂 Thanks for sharing, Kevin. I'll be watching the project.
Might as well upgrade to the 3L turbo. These are not my taste, but then, I never had one either. If I had, I may have a different opinion.
A guy I knew had a 240Z back in the mid 70s and I took a ride with him. While it didn't excite me as much as my Brother's 66 Vette, it surprised me.
Good luck, I'll be watching.
Good luck with the money pit! Fond memories always getya!!
Yes it does! Gonna name this one Car-ching!
Awesome man! I still have my first car... exact same one! Ive had her almost 40 years.... Supper excited! And lol ..i have that odd ball wheel sitting in my back yard...its yours if you pay for shipping....it will have to be painted.
Wow!!! That's amazing!!!! Thank you so much man! If I decide to keep the stockers I'll hit you up!
@@paintucation hey man did you get the Z home?
Those are just 82-83 tail lights, NA had them too. 81 turbo still had the same tail lights as the NA 79-81. Almost all of those spare wheel wells rust out, it's the corner glass seal. There was a center light that said "turbo" (in script) but those were dealer add-ons, not OEM installed and required relocation of the license plate.
Overall I'd say this is certainly savable. I've seen far worse and still considered them. But it's a lot of work. I would have guessed around 1,000 shop hours, and a budget of at least 6k in materials/parts (wrote that before I got to the end, I was close! and wasn't considering the cost of purchase of vehicle). Even though in a "not terrible" condition there's just not an ROI on this vehicle. So restoration is purely love and enjoyment. The six figure action jobs aren't restores, and I think we're still a loooong ways away from restores being six figures.
Cool car to restore.
what ya need is another donor car...great to see the Datsuns getting rescued.....in Canada you never see these cars they all rotted..the Celicas were good looking car too
the mazdas of that era were cool too if ya do put up with a rotary
In Australia we have "rare spares" but only really covers aussie built cars
The 280zx is a really cool car there was two I would walk by daily when I was younger they looked like ruff but would have loved to have gotten one fast forward to 2020 I bought a one of my other dreams cars it a 91 Pontiac firebird T top's Auto 5.0 TPI it ruff it needs floor pans work the dashboard is cracked to heck and it been repainted a lot I've been though the brakes the fuel system change fluid's bought new tires clean it up the best way I could did some suspension work and now it time to get the engine built i have a 350 for it but for now I've been driving it since 2020 almost 4 years she been reliable for me it a feel good ride for me and that means the world to me I paid 2k for it I've got about 3k in it so for 5k almost 4 years she has been a great ride and it a gas saver
If you decide not to build it, id like to have it. Im always looking for hardtop ZXs in the Southeast
I had a 70½ 240 with a 383 stroker in it, T56 trans. Man that thing was only good for a smoke machine. Put a smile A-Jacks couldn't wipe off on ya at a blurp of the go pedal. Man i miss that car
Damn, a 383 in it. That’s what I have in my 68 camaro
I remember driving these back in the day and they were fun. And yes, the t-tops are cool but leak...
Love the story
Looks like but a money pit .......but I know there are a lot of folks that will feel nostalgic about it.
Hell yea Kevin! Hell yea!
Thanks man!!!
@@paintucation Holy Smokin two stroke! A guy I'd give a kidney to meet replied! Wow...This platform is almost as legitimate as your paint work
@@dewworm1666 You are too kind!!! I'm stoked to dig into this one, I hope it's not too rotted on the floors. Thanks for the kudos!!
Cant wait for great contents if you are really saving and restore this car. It will definitely takes lots of lots of hours and money too into restoring it. While we can learn from you along the way if you are doing contents with it😊
Im gonna take a run at it...
I had a 280 for a while and I wanted to turn it into a Sylvia cologne. Unfortunately that was the same time that the bottom fell out of the economy back in 2008. I lost my job and ended up having to sell the car.
Clone not cologne. Autocorrect has struck again.
I can't remember why I sold my first one, I think it was to buy tools or down payment on a house ... Either way I was disappointed to see it go. This brings back a lot of fun memories.
I've wanted a 240/60/80 since the mid 70's.
I love em too!
Check the body chassi rails on thoughs cars. They tend to be the thing that goes on thoughs cars. You might have to get out the 3 -4 mil plate if it has .
Next up, full restoration of a 1982 Chrysler LeBaron.
I'm not a paint and body guy, but those estimates seem low. It's like engineering schedules that are based on 1 part hope and 1 part absolutely-nothing-goes-wrong.
I did the Datsun thing for a period of time after getting bored with rare American muscle cars for a while. Lots of 510s and 1970/1971 240Zs. But always seemed to lose more money on those projects than the average Mustangamaro.
To me, a car like that screams hotrod. Don't spend a dime on originality. Maybe a V8 swap. A fake Paul Newman race car would be amazing.
Seriously, a huge gift could be given to the youtube car guys. Do a two part series. The first is the real tear down and then a real estimate based on more knowledge, part dos is the actual cost of the project given bonafide time sheets and parts cost. You'd break new ground in actually presenting reality as opposed to the average hot rod show (ONE OF OUR SPONSORS SENT A $20K CRATE ENGINE, LET'S PUT IT IN THE FOUR DOOR NOVA. BUT FIRST, A WORD FROM O'REILLY).
Yeee Yeee!
Most people don't work for axalta. Like you. If I'd have that I would save thousands of dollars.
Um, I'm self employed. Thanks for watching!
I want to look at a 300ZX. Turbo. The car was so Rusty even the mounting points for the seats were rusted out
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Some dreams need to stay dreams before they become a nightmare
Just wondering kevin when you tackle a project like this do you have the body completely stripped or do you only strip down to bare metal the areas where you find rust.
Alan on something like this, I don't trust any of it. I'll strip everything except jambs, they're usually original paint and show their warts. A bonus of stripping to metal is your paint job is usually much flatter than if you went overtop of another one... Style lines look a little more crisp. Not sure if I'll "rotisserie" this gem, but the bottom needs attention fo sure!
You only live once so pick your challenges wisely. The z's are all good. So.e better some worse but I like them
Thats pretty clean as far as those cars go the rust isn't that bad i have seen way worse
2013 not to long ago… till I realized 2013 is 11 years ago.
Agree 100% on those junky plastic T Tops.
They make the car flimsy....
OR you could use the car as a donor car and create a Shelby Daytona or a Ferrari GTO and really WOW them at car shows!!!
I think you're a little lean on the mechanical costs, $3500? lol...also I'd love to know what you aid for the car! Can't wait to see what you do with it.
Smells like a LS conversion, but that's just me thinking of what I would do.
Most realistic look at restoration pricing...
I'm trying to make it realistic, pricing is based off of shops and my experience here in Middle tennessee. What truly amazes me is the price of cars that used to be a few hundred dollars, now are a few thousand dollars. I don't know if it's a trend, or just the new state of things with internal combustion engine cars becoming more valuable with all the EV stuff happening
Look at the price of "Iroc" era Camaros next to that 280 or fox body mustangs.... Never did I think 210 HP cars would be this valuable
@@DaleDayTheBigDayDJ Yeah, they used to be nearly disposable.... certainly not considered "collectible" I guess all things come into that range... ( except maybe Edsels, they're still Edsels... )