y'all need to stop with the "manly men" stereotype [RANT]
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Fun fact: The Greeks considered the Persians "unmanly", because they wore trousers.
Nice lol
Reference?
@@elifdurmus8243 reference ? Thatâs a fact lmao, Iâve studied Greek culture and religion. Even their gods are depicted wearing dresses and such, fun fact: most Greek people and Greek gods were openly bisexual.đ
@@elifdurmus8243 I think Herodotus at least mentions it, and maybe Thucydides. The Greeks (and later Romans) regarded trousers as a sign of barbarity and indirectly femininity, because the peoples living on their borders (Celts, Parthians, Scythians, Germanic tribes) wore them and chose practicality over aesthetics. Which to some Greco-Romans denoted that those people had not advanced their civilizations far enough.
The romans considered the gauls "uncivilized" for the same reason.
The fact that men stopped wearing thigh high leather boots on the reg is one of the greatest fashion tragedies of all time.
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aight, time to single handedly bring back this fashion trend the second I can afford it
RIP
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I'd love to wear the fab leather boots, but no exageration, i would probably be beaten with where i live >.>
I hate how 'masculine' clothing on a woman is seen as "empowering", "powerful" whilst feminine clothing on a man is seen as "degrading", "unmanly" and "weak".
wow we should be saying this more
'masculine' being good and 'feminine' being weak sounds a lot like the patriarchal views that men are strong women are weak so the idiots who think that and think thar they're empowering women are wrong they are in a way strengthening the patriarchal views but using masculine and feminine instead of men and women
@@junkoenoshima2756 feminists reinforce these idea of female weakness with how fragile they are.
@@jarvisjackson4833
Wait, feminists perpetuate this? I thought they fought for equal gender rights?
@@seraphywang4638 They're more like authoritarians telling everyone what to do.
Donât bring back âmanly menâ bring back respectful men with a sense of fashion âš
Yes!
With ENORMOUS sence of fashion. And education. And gallantry. So bring back Real Men, not those amorphous things that calls themselves "manly men"
reject society boys, become ripped
YAS!
Shur up
A little girl, like 7 years old, came to the priest of my school (who is 30) and said "you have a beautiful dress!", and he just tell her "oh thanks!". I was laughing so hard, this man is a legend XD
That's gold đđ
These men arenât the men that Candace is speaking of about returning to. Itâs just a repeat of today. Just a different era. Basically men that dressed like this are doing whatâs in fashion and whatâs trendy back in these periods; as far as fashion is concerned. You took it quite literally.
Harry Styles is doing the same thing. Itâs just what is in fashion or shocking for today to be controversial or daring. Blurring the lines of gender, which is also a trend and has become normal according to media and liberal outlets.
Candace was speaking about masculinity in character and personality. Which is what we need more of today, many bow down and kow tow the media and liberal agenda immediately and become self hating men. It has leaked into all arenas if you are a straight heterosexual male and worse if you are a Christian. These men she speaks of are absolutely apologetic about being a man and donât respect themselves enough to be unapologetically proud about who they are as a man.
We need more of the latter and thatâs why so many agree with Candace. Her remakes resonate with so many millions of us and your view of what she says makes her seem as if she was stereotyping in a negative way. But these men who fought wars, who sacrificed wholly and entirely for liberty, freedom; to protect their rights and family along with their neighbor seem to be extinct or very few and far in between. We do need these men again. Not some peacock or fops who care about making fashion statements to stay relevant or sell their products.
Our freedoms are at risk and have become squashed with the unconstitutional lockdowns. Harry Styles is an embarrassment to himself and his sex. He is clearly a male, clearly a pop culture media and entertainment celebrity who just does whatâs trendy. He has an entire production team behind this. Heâs appealing to his fan base and the movement of the alphabet group. He has sacrificed nothing, won by popularity and looks, is as charismatic as a cigarette butt championing nothing but his own reputation and fame. Iâm with Candace.
@@ElyWill why are u keep copy paste your comment like it's so Revolutionary it need to be on every comments section or u just didnt have any comeback what so ever
@@yozha92 yup!
@@ElyWill Uh... I don't know much about Harry Style to defend him but I don't think degrading a person is a good thing to do.
âBecause as we all know; colours are reserved for females.â
Male peacocks: đđđ
Technically all peacocks are male
@@ijerry7511 true, male peafowls are called peacocks
@@schabowy6149 yeah
Most male birds really đ
All male birds đđđ
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Fun fact: pink was originally made for men because it is more vibrant, blue was made for women because it is a soft color.
Ahhh yes I see that peecocks were certainly teaching humans how to get mates
Yep, but then they switched over time in around 1940 I believe (I could be wrong)
Actually it was originally because pink was associated with red which was the colors of war, and blue was associated with women because it was the color of Mary (Jesus' mother)
That's what my teacher told us lmao
This is actually untrue and has no evidence to back it up
People: Men can't have long hair
Almost every French king named Louis: đ
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Literally any European man from 1640 to 1790 đ€Żđ€đ đĄđ€Ź
*men canât wear long dresses, accessories and colors*
Wheezes in Indian history and mythology
So true! đ
Tell me about it. đđđđ Their dhoti is literally like a skirt. And they still wear it.đ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïž These people are too much on to "MANLY" .
@@girlwithapearlearring9236 well I from tamil nadu. And people here proudly wear dhoti but if they were a skirt. They will shame him.
LETS TALK ABT THE BENGALI LUNGI GUYS PLS. LIKE. ITS LEGIT A SKIRT???????? MEN???? STOP DELUDING YOURSELF??????????????
@@darshnes3986 Exactly. I am from kerala. If a guy wears a pattu pavada, will anyone accept him? If a guy wears a saree, will anyone accept him? Nope.
People at 2020: hating men who wear too "decorative" style
People at 1500s: "Oh, how I wish to have that beautiful fabric and 'miniskirt' and jewels like king have :')"
Man just got so jealous we made the poor style be the man style to compensate
And they say that time was "outdated and sexsit" they were gayer then the gays today
Some people are complaining that men are losing their gender orientation by wearing dresses, whereas in Scotland, it is natural for men to wear skirts because it is their traditional dress.
"Man, look at the King! What a STUD! His gold on silk brocade gown makes all the panties drop. .... If women wore panties, amiright!? Hahahahahaha...." - some guy back then
@@johannageisel5390 OMG this comment is gold!
âcolours are reserved for womenâ
not true men have black, dark grey, light grey, white (sometimes), slate, coal, maroon, very dark red, navy blue, midnight blue, dark blue, forest green, dark green, light blue (if shirt) and all shades of denim đđ€
And look at all the colours their eyes can be
VIVI CULT
Forgot very dark purple
Truly an exciting array of choices.
Bright colors she meant
Society is toxic towards both men and women...
Thank you so much for this rant! Keep it coming!
You've got a point
I gave you a 100th like.đ
And the society we created
that's patriarchy for you
yeah I agree.
Donât forget the Romans thought wearing pants was feminine!
Julius Caesar wore a miniskirt
I thought the Romans viewed them as barbaric
Did they? Where does that notion of yours come from? I know Celts wore trousers and Romans did not, but I don't know about them being perceived as feminine.
During discussion of the cultural context surrounding Catullan poems in my Catullus class in both Latin and English was where we brought it up. I was a Classical Languages major and studied Latin, Attic Greek, and Biblical Hebrew.
@@arthursimsa9005 it makes a lot more sense for the human body structure to have men wear skirts, and girls wear pants.
I love Eddie Izzardâs remark. When asked why he was wearing a womanâs dress he replied that it wasnât a womanâs dress: It was his dress; he bought and paid for it himself!
YES. Thank you.
That's the attitude everyone should have towards clothes tbh.
Great reply
I love that!!
I love eddie izzard. He was the first gender non conforming person i had seen *anywhere* that wasn't some sterotype or joke character on tv. The older i get the more i realise how ahead of his time he was
The modern concept of manly men was born around... the great depression, when men wore Jeans and worked in the mines, to help their poor families survive. The modern concept of a man is built from the ground up on depression(financial and emotional, for more than obvious reasons), isolation(at that time men had to shoulder the weight of their families, without complaint), poverty(hence the lack of accesories and simple clothing), it's just fucking sad.
That actually makes a lot of sense
I find this hard to believe, as the patriarchy (certainly the root of masculinity) is a lot older than the 1920s.
20th century is literally the age of depression and made up everything as it also showed up in art and literature.
Yea, in the video, when she said that all these fun fancy clothes were a sign of wealth, I IMMEDIATELY thought that something like this (your comment) triggered this *FOOKIN AWFUL* change... I want to dress how I want and not be seen as something im not I just want to express myself, but because "I am straight, aka im not gay broooooo" mentality is ruining my fun tbh :(
@@wawawuu1514 The concept of masculinity (and therefore what constituted a 'manly man') has changed a lot though. Hence the phrase 'modern concept'.
Being manly is being yourself without giving a damn what others think. Honestly, its so simple đ
Really? I thought I would be a mysoginists toxic man. Hm.
its not, we are very different, we dont like masculine women
@@RR-et6zp I do. You don't*
@@RR-et6zp *I not we, we're not the same person mate
@@ArmaHipHopTV we dont its like a guy wearing heels a skirt and being feminine
"Because as we all know, colors are reserved for females"
Most species of birds: đđđ
And many fish
Most male animals are more bold (helps to attract females apparently). Birds are colorful, lions have their beautiful manes, male frogs compete to be the loudest.
yeah, but females selected them
@@larrote6467 bruh
It's attractive
@@gsiya4023 that's exactly my point. Females selected more attractive males for thousand of years and molded them to look and sing that way. Why do you think females are (for the most part) brown and small? They werent selected my males.
If I want to wear a giant Victorian Era dress, nothing's gonna stop me.
Except my wallet.
Truth.
Same, I adore the Victorian Era.
Go rock that everlasting broke student vibe!
True
bruh destroy gender norms stealing it /j
I consider myself to be as âmasculineâ as the average man and am 100% straight, but I have always been envious of women having more colorful, fancy, and COMFORTABLE (heels NOT included) clothing options. Clothing should not be gender specific. The average man wearing a dress or skirt is still going to look like a guy. Women do not look like men when they wear pants and a t-shirt. Granted, some garments look better on certain body types- or is that just what society has ingrained in our psyche as being ârightâ? After decades of wanting to wear skirts, I have discovered kilts: the âman-skirtâ, although kilt traditionalists strongly disagree with the association of the terms. When kilted I wear primarily modern, utility kilts. I would love to wear a denim or cargo skirt with a t-shirt, but society says that would be âwrongâ. WTF? Theyâre just clothes! My significant other has often stated she likes âmen to be menâ and âwomen to be womenâ, but that hasnât stopped me from wearing kilts fairly often and dressing in drag for Halloween a couple of times. But, she still loves me, perhaps realizing that clothing doesnât change who I am. The irony is that women who scorn men for embracing some âfemininityâ also want gender equality. Women will never gain complete equality with men until being feminine, whether youâre a man or a woman, is no longer considered a weakness.
I mean women have SO MANY clothing options. So should men
Yeah, skirts are very comfortable (except the really narrow pencil skirts and the ones made out of really stiff fabric). But soft skirts with enough "give" in them are really comfy. Freedom for legs.
Just be a girl already đ
@@jashaehall154 wanting more clothing options has nothing to do with sexual identity. Does wearing pants make you want to be a man?
@@brentlohr4965 I actually do feel equivalent to my husband when I where jeans & tshirt
When I can be super cute & have all his attention in a skirt
You know its all really funny especially when they say âwomen like âmanlyâ menâ it gets me DYING of laughter because women are crushing on Harry styles and Kpop idols and showing absolutely no attention to âmanlyâ men itâs ironic
yeah, not true.
@@skurinski it literally is hun
Always been that way. Girls were throwing themselves at the eyeliner wearing emo bands like My Chemical Romance a decade ago, and before that, Kurt Cobain in the 90âs, âglam metalâ bands in the 80âs, etc.
Women are crushing on... Both sides honestly lol
Your tripping if you don't think there are also women lusting after 'manly men'. Women aren't a monolith
As a more masculine presenting man it's nice to think that women are also attracted to me
"It can't even make my blood boil because it boiled so many times it evaporated."
This will be my senior quote.
I'll write it down.
âIt doesnât make my blood boil because my blood has already boiled too many timesâ
Theres no blood left ajdjjd
I laughed so hard cauz I use this expression too
Wtf I made this 15 minutes ago and I already have 400 likes
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Damn 1K in 40 mins
pale queen đđđđ
@@JosephM we love a vampire shistar
Iâm choosing to interpret âmen should not wear womenâs clothingâ as âstop stealing my dresses, buy your own!â And nothing else
lmao yes
Lol
Dude from the Philippines here, and to add more info from our side of table, before the Spanish Colonial Period (from around 900-1560s):
1) Men of high status wore bright natural colors (such as red, blue, yellow)
2) The clothes (according to Boxer Codex, it's really interesting, feel free to search it up, it had tons of illustrations of South East Asian people and how they looked) were quite "feminine". Depending on your status, it could be a jacket for a top (that could showcase your nips), or a shirt that's just about short enought that it showcases your midriff (because ab-goals, am I right ladies?), or literally just a loincloth (which could be too close to a thong for the "manly men" lol). As for the rich men's bottoms, they had fine cloth made of similar fabric as their top, and had them tied in such a way that it'd look like shorts. These were worn because it's practical and hot AF in the Philippines, even back then.
2) Also depending on the man's social class, he could wear these clothes with gold-thread trimming, or even gold-thread embroidery, just for that sparkle of social class. They also had jewelry made of gold, like rings, earrings (yep that's right), bracelets, necklaces, and even on their ankles and knees (because âšsparklesâš lol). They also had headwear, which varied from region to region. It could be a bunch of cloth wrapped around the head (kinda like a pirate's headwrap, but much more meticulously wrapped), or a golden crown, or even both.
3) And for the most brilliant part of all, all this they carried into their graves, with one last touch.....can you guess? Oh, nothing grand, just a whole entire mask with intricate details and carvings, made of gold and silver, worn as their corpses are buried into the ground (God bless these manly men đâš)
Again, if you're interested to more know about these served looks both by men and women, not only in the Philippines, but also by our SEA neighbors, check out the Boxer Codex. As for this comment's relation to the video, it just goes to show that back then, masculinity and femininity didn't really matter as much as to people nowadays. Ofc, there are little nuances I couldn't mention that do make the difference as to what men and women wore (mostly the sillouhette, among other tiny details), but that's beside the point. I myself am quite masculine in how I want to dress (suits, coats, casual shirts and pants/shorts combos), but it doesn't take much effort for me to have some respect or at the very least tolerance (I'm really picky into what someone wears, sorry just want y'all to look good lol) a man wearing something I personally wouldn't. As for Harry Styles, I personally wouldn't pick that dress for him, idk...I wanted some other prettier dress on him, but it's in a magazine, so I kinda get that they were going for the editorial feel.
Karolina: rants about the manly man craze.
David Bowie: smiles from outer space.
Ground control to major Tom....
Lol yes, I actually was having a conversation with my husband last night and we agreed that David Bowie could never seriously be considered as anything other than â Masculine with a capital âMâ.
@@39houndsteps Yes! So confident in his own skin!
I'm glad I'm not the only one to immediately think; "David Bowie!!"
@@39houndsteps And Prince is also right up there with the manly man
People: NOOO YOU CANT WEAR SKIRT! THATâS NOT MANLY!
Meanwhile Scots: *hehe kilts go brrrr*
Meanwhile, some Arabs wearing kandoora.
Mean while West African men in extremely long shirts
@@catherinerose2434 but do they really have any substantial differences besides the name?
@@catherinerose2434 but trousers are trousers regardless of whether they were made for a male or female body or how masculine or feminine they look
@@catherinerose2434 "A kilt (Scottish Gaelic: fĂšileadh [ËfeËlÉÉŁ])[1] is a type of knee-length non-bifurcated skirt" Wikipedia. kilts are skirts. did you even watch the video for complaining that kilts arent skirts because they're "manly"?
This and the ânot like other girlsâ trend show how convinced some people are that masculinity is genuinely more powerful.
You bet your life it is....!!
@@virtualmorgue Uh huh.
Me at the age 12, i tried to convince myself i was not like other girls. Now, i can't do my own make up and i regret Itđ
I like both masculine and feminine things. I like boxing (Martial Arts in general), calisthenics, sports, i like to dress in loose clothes, i hate to do my nails so i don't do it...But, sometimes, when i go out, i wanna wear make up, i want my boyfriend to see me as "cute" or i wanna exibit some feminine mannerisms.
However, i feel much more comfortable showing my masculine sides than feminine sides...I wish i was comfortable to show them both equally.
â@@AnaLu07 you can still learn makeup now if you want! My mom is learning makeup in her 50s! never too late, in fact, my mom was inspired by me to learn. I was kind of a late bloomer myself, I've learned most of makeup and fashion in my twenties after I moved out because my culture growing up was controlling and shamed caring about physical appearance. Some days I wear nothing at all, some days I do a lot, and there are a lot of days that are in between those extremes too. I've learned to be comfortable in all those states. Makeup and fashion can be art, they can be a costume, and in some contexts, they can be armor, and in others, a cage. What fashion and makeup should never be is controllers of how we feel about ourselves as women. We are as womanly without them as we are with them, cause we are still women whether we are using them or not.
And in that vein, sounds like you have a boyfriend, and if so, he was attracted to you without all of the performative feminine things. But if he's a good person he should be supportive of you exploring other sides of yourself--more varieties of you to be attracted to! Both men and women just like to feel the other puts effort in to take care of themselves for the other, cause it shows that you care. But the specifics of what that specifically looks like varies. People are different. So are couples. Hope you find contentedness and comfort in who you are.
@@thegnome73 This is very well said and spot on. Excellent comment.
"long hairs are for females!"
**Laughs in lion**
dull-coloured boringly cut trousers and a t-shirt. so i guess according to them the quintessential manly man is... Mark Zuckerberg?
LMAO
Pretty much. LOL
He was designed to look as inconspicuous as they could make him
So manly đđđđ„°đ„°đ„° ideal man đđ„°đ„°đđđđđ
Conservatives: **points at Zucc** you may not like it, but that's what peak masculinity looks like
"A manly man relies only on his pockets" sent me
Unless he is married, then he makes his wife put whatever in her purse. I remember telling my ex âjust get a satchel!â
@@IJustWantToUseMyName my dad always makes fun of men with purses then asks my mum to carry his stuff in her purse
*Looks back at the gigantic women's pockets of the 1700s*
I actually saw, last Friday, a man in kilt with a overlay matching pocket! My only thought: right on!
Testosterone has been decreasing very fast in western men
I'm a girl and I always went and still go to the mens section when I'm shopping for shirts, because I think they have cool designs most of the time! Nobody really gave a sh*t about that, but if a man is looking for something in the womens section he would probably get really weird looks. I just don't understand how clothes ultimately define who you are, like..?
I agree (as a man considering women's clothes). For me, what makes someone look masculine or feminine is their actual body shape and not the cloth they cover their body with.
In my country it wouldn't be weird if there's a guy in the women's t-shirt section, but once he goes to the lingerie section, then that's where he'll get suspicious looks đ
Its frustrating how society now days say men cant have fashion sense.
not true
@@RR-et6zp I saw your other disgusting and bike comments đ€źđ€źđ€ź
"I like a man who has fashion sense"
"Patterned clothing,shirts with colors,cool designs? Thats not manly"
Women stole our heels!!! Give them back!!
I WANT TO WEAR HEELS!!!
You can have them, modern heels are way too uncomfortable...
yeet I would wear low heels
Have them
Their hell
Havent you noticed army boots AND riding boots are high heeled?
So... go for it. You can buy and wear them, if you want to.
"Men should not wear dresses đ "
Prophets and historical figures : đđđ
@Altoid BazingĂĄ lol those eyes
David Bowie: đđđ
Those not considered dresses like we have arab man still wear that white abaya , still tho these dresses these celeb wearing too feminine
they were dresses made for men and shaped for the male body. They were designed in a way to embrace the shape of the male body and distinguish it from women's dresses. Women's dresses were designed in a way to embrace the shape of the woman's body and distinguish it from the men's dresses. They aren't really called "dresses" but have a designated name to describe the male and female "dresses" back then. Idk what they were called.
No, that passage was about the different attires for men and women it didn't mentioned skirts or pants BUT nevertheless this is exactly what they did, having a man dressing like a woman.
"Bring back manly men."
All of History: đïžđđïž
you... know war was a thing right?
@@firstnamelastname9219You do know fashion affected the clothes men wore to war right?
Uniforms were often more practical versions of what was fashionable at the time. Take for example the uniforms during the napoleonic wars, those men were blinged the fuck out, especially the cavalry. Itâs pretty much always been that way. It wasnât until around WWI that the bright colours were replaced with muddy/drab hues and eventually camouflage patterns.
why are you talking about clothing lmao literally has nothing to do with my statement @@AtlasNL
It is quite sad that men have less alternatives to fashion these days. Sure, you could wear something more extravagant and fancy, but everyone'll just say its too "feminine". I wish men had more fashion options these days that are more socially acceptable.
You hit the nail on the head
Step one: stop looking for social validation. You already know their opinion is toxic. How long will you lower yourself to obey them?
Step two: you now have infinite style access.
@@gormauslander epic
@@gormauslander this!
@@gormauslander I get were you coming from but realistically you kinda NEED social validation
In Scotland, the manliest of men wear kilts (skirts), dance intricate dances hopping about and carry daggers in their knee socks :)
Yes, please!
Thatâs it. Iâm moving to Scotland.
@@FirstnameLastname-gb4ww Come with me I have my bags packed
@@newta5208 Hell ya! New traveling buddy!
@@newta5208 Count me in! đđ
Also, fun fact: Pink was originally considered the more masculine color, while blue was more feminine. This didn't actually change until around the turn of the 20th century.
Yep, I think the change came around the 40s-50s.
It was a marketing ploy for baby clothes, right?(pink=g, blue=b)
@@yeoldetrashheappe not feminine, but homosexual
Yes I heard that, but I think that these two colors were for children, pink was used for boys and light blue for girls. Dark blue was then for ladies and gentleman used red (darker shades represent adults, toned down colors/pastels children). I think that these colors swiched duting WW2, but I am not sure
Everyone who does baby gender reveal parties are shaking and crying rn
Candace Owens really needs to learn a thing called âminding her own businessâ when it comes to stuff she personally doesnât like.
Absolutely.
Sounds like you personally don't like Candace Owens. So maybe you should "mind your own business" when it comes to her? But perhaps you don't because you, like her, live in a country that provides the right to free speech.
ââââ@@JohnSmithAnythingChannelBecause that right wing token mouth breather does not deserve respect aside the most basic respect. You would not understand free speech if it hits you in the face. Be weird elsewhere
The way you said 'men went FCKING FERAL' had me cackle out loud :'''D
Imagine being a masculine woman back in the day and expressing that by wearing pink, high heels, and tights- different times
@CCP Alcohol beverage called Corona Hell yeah
@@koreansavior1059 Wot
@@koreansavior1059 The comment is about masculine women
@@koreansavior1059 What does that have to do with my comment?
@@asafupps it's gay. Maybe the correct term is lesbian.
âMasculineâ and âfeminineâ clothes and fashions are social constructs. Itâs always fun to watch conservatives talk themselves into knots trying to push universal gender roles lol
how ironic considering liberals these days are transing kids for those very same gender roles and stereotypes...
I am with you. Also I adore your profile picture!
I think the most important thing is to be comfortable no matter what you're wearing. No one should be forced to wear this or that item of clothing.
The noble men in the past would look at today's wealthy man and refer to him as peasant regarding clothing.
And ancestry. And artistic tastes...
LOL!
@Karin Korenkova BRING BACK THE CLOAK!!!
@@hookyhook6006 yes yes yes! I love cloaks!
Hahaha. They'd be making unending jokes and or be horrified and demand heads to roll away for such atrocity. Lol.
..."and don't let me get started on cultures that isn't western"
Absolutely agree! The Indian rulers drape themselves with jewellery so extravagant it would make Marie Antoinette weep.
thats true, actually, in India, we still have ornaments of gold and silver etc. made for men. In fact most jewelry stores have a section dedicated exclusively for men.
And Egyptian men wore makeup like women did.
I dont think there are many civilisations that would be considered manly by today's 'manly men' lol. Trousers weren't really a stand alone item of clothing anywhere so everyone vibed with some variation of skirt, long skirt or dress. Gotta flex them thighs, in a many way tho. Jewelry too like??
Yeah, they wore skirts for god's sake! Also eyeliner I think. On the other hand, they also had these big manly moustaches, which just goes to show how fluid concepts of gendered clothing is - you can have elements now considered hypermasculine and other considered hyperfeminine, together in one outfit and different cultures wouldn't find anything weord with that.
Yes, she complained about a conservative western woman, though - who was talking about western men. Not India.
Three of my older boys kids are in a boardng school and in their student homes they have something called the macho Man competition. It's a monthly competition which I initially did not agree with at all just based on the name but once I heard what they were doing I became a big fan. In that home a macho man is someone who does his chores, shows personal responsibility, stands up for somebody who's being bullied. Now I think it's great. I've seen such growth since they started doing this and the wonderful house parents are giving them the real definition of a manly man: someone who has integrity and takes personal responsibility for their actions.
when do you think we'll teach girls accountability and personal responsibility?
I love you deeply. People need to be educated (me too) about the fluidity of beauty and dresscode, the fluidity concept of male,female and every identity someone can recognize themselves into. Thank you.
Pink was also considered a manly color and blue a feminine color.
really? Where can I find something on that?
@@alexiscruz7771
1-www.google.pt/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/278535/
2- www.google.pt/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/pink-used-to-be-boys-colour-and-blue-girls-heres-why-that-changed-2017-10%3famp
3-czcams.com/video/KaGSYGhUkvM/video.html
I also watched another video that had alot of information about that but I canât seem to find it srry.
Wasn't it because Pink was considered to be a diminutive red (colour of war), and blue was linked to the Virgin Mary?
@@alexiscruz7771 Because grown men wore red so young boys wore pink, while women wore a rich blue color and young girls wore a pastel or baby blue color.
@@thesunnisalsoastar thank you good sir or madame or anything else. :)
The Romans thought that wearing pants was BARBARIC. Only a barbarian would wear pants (and nobody wants to be a barbarian).
Looking around nowadays... maybe the Romans were right
The romans also had slaves and loved imperialism. Is having slaves and loving imperialism also manly?
@@nullakjg767 the point isn't that we should decide manliness based on roman standards, it's meant to point out the hypocrisy of people who think that pants specifically are manly and shame men for wanting to wear anything else when for thousands and thousands of years the opposite was held as stardard manliness, or in this case wearing pants was even considered to be barbaric.
No one is saying "look at this time period, we should be more like them", the point is to point out the hypocrisy of people who glorify one period of time as "peak humanity and manliness" and ignore the thousands and thousands of years of human history before who were totally different
Weren't pants sort of a thing for peasants/workers? Because they were easy to move around in. Imagine wearing a long cape on the field while harvesting your crops.
Imagine most people don't even know where jeans came from.
But also, the original meaning of 'barbarian' just meant anyone who didnt speak Greek. So anyone who wasn't of their culture was a barbarian
Why is it that Women wearing Pantsuit is considered okay and really cool and fierce but a man wearing a dress is considered to be feminine and toxic culture. Why? Is it because it is related to woman. And woman have been âconsideredâ to be âweakâ. And men have been considered as strong and power. Get that narrows of your mind and through it out of window.PLEASE.
I can imagine a man wearing an appropriate dress and still fight or be strong. I mean look at men in past. They also frickinâ wore heels. Now is that manly or not manly ??âŠi think this all lies in patriarchal society where itâs the straight men who are defining the norms and not all the genders collectively . Why are these dumb things imposed in 20th and 21st century people. I mean technologically we have developed a lot , what about culturally.
Letâs break these so called âRulesâ and develop the world into a better place. I mean come on we have a lot of things to worry about, why is everybody concerned about wearing what he is comfortable in.
You nailed it to be honest.
@@KaiDecadence Thank you
Best. Comment. Ever.
PREACH
Petition to bring back 18/19th century men's fashion
remember that time back in the '70s that David Bowie wore a dress and it almost destroyed masculinity as we know it? Remember when all those rock groups in the '80s grew out their hair and put on eyeliner and it almost shattered manliness completely? Like seriously if it didn't happen then what's a guy in a dress going to do now?
The New York Dolls are the destroyers of masculinity, and no one can tell me otherwise
Mtv banned Queens 'i want to break free' video because the band members wore dresses and Mtv freaked out about how it would corupt the youth of america
Even liam is wearing eyeliner AND OH MY GOD HES MMMMMMâšđ
@@jadedbelle4788 To be fair the way Roger Taylor looks in that video I'm pretty sure he corrupted a hudge chunk of males, females, and otherwise...
@@Mesmina Lmao he was looking so girly back then.
âLong hair is for women onlyâ
Jesus: AM I A JOKE TO YOU đż
lol in reality, Jesus would have had short hair bc he was jewish and had not taken a nazirite vow. tho it is funny that their depiction of jesus conflicts with the long hair thing
@@greatestaxolotl4933 what the truck?! So my whole life was a lie-
@@roxanne_ I guess? lol. he also wasn't white but i think most people know that by now haha
@@roxanne_ wait till I tell you he wasn't white.... And probably not straight.
Just that came to my mind
I style my hair, wear makeup, dress up pretty androgynous. I get made fun of all the time, but my girlfriend digs it. She straight up told me "men these days look like they're trying to look homeless to protect their masculinity" đ at least I'm pretty.
Ok but I genuinely do try and look homeless and I SERVE. Don't knock the style
As a man, I'd love to be your friends. I think the solution is finding like-minded people and having a small group of friends/community and just not giving af about the common folk and their gender norms and constructs
I am, what most would call, a "manly man." I spent time in the military, I like hunting, I own and regularly shoot multiple guns, and all that shit. I still take care of my appearance (beyond lifting weights). I have a ton of skin care products, I'm super into hair care, and my wardrobe is fly af. Gender expectations are absurd. Life is short and the world sucks. Wear what you want and expectations be damned.
I guess I stumbled upon this video because I'm a historian and I watch a lot of history stuff. I didn't know I cared much about fashion history (mostly an urban and labor historian myself), but this is great stuff. Subscribed.
This explains why men's costumes in period dramas are so boring to look at, they're trying to hard to push this era's concept of "manliness" instead of embracing the campiness of the past.
yes??? I hate it that in every medieval and renaissance historical fiction the men always have black or brown leather clothes. The trousers are not baggy, but not too tight and they have leather doublets or short enough/jacket-like tunics so they don't accidentally look like skirts...
Thats one thing that l hate in any history related thing. Like, embrace it and give us some good Historical men's fashion please? I love the 18th century for male fashion, just look at those embroidered waist coats! Its to die for
The favourite actually encompasses the camp nature of Stuart clothing which I love.
I think it's also to make the people watching find them attractive, because with corsets, and wigs people would just end up finding them funny looking
There was once this episode of Antiques Roadshow where this guy brags about how he removed this tacky red paint job from an antique. The appraiser explains to him that the tacky paint was the Victorian's way of emulating mahogany and stylish at the time, and that his work devalued the piece by removing original work, not restored it. He kept plaintively insisting, "But it was tacky," as if the Victorians _must_ have shared his sense of style and color.
Hotel: Versailles
was not stupid, I will die on this hill
Legend.
That was my favorite part
Oh thank goodness someone wrote this in the comments, momâs accent+my auditory processing problems meant that I watched that clip 3 times, just heard gibberish, eventually thought I heard Versailles and then gave up on the joke.
I don't understand the joke. Could you explain, please?
@@rockswe it's a riff on the "hotel? Trivago" commercial that turned into a meme, basically somebody asks a bunch of irrelevant questions, finishes them with obvious answers and then apropos of nothing, ends the commercial/meme with: Hotel? Trivago
LOVED IT AND YOU ABSOLUTELY NAILED IT!!!!!! We seriously need to talk more about this!
Your final remarks really hit it on the head. Furs, silks, jewelry and embroidery were EXPENSIVE. So if you wore it that meant that you were RICH and POWERFUL. And historically there was nothing more manly than being rich and powerful.
its not, we are very different, we dont like masculine women
@@RR-et6zp why are you copy pasting this to every comment???? It doesn't even makes sense under this comment.....
@@Nick-dx2pt truth is important
Karolina: âAs a Catholic, this made me cackleâ
Me, an Anglican: preach.
And the Pope wears...well a dress even if it's called a robe.
@@Poppy- robe is litterally the french word for dress tho
@@wanderlust9372 exactement!
@@wanderlust9372 àČ _ÊàČ
plain vanilla protestant here: "Many people are ignorant. Many are also stupid."
"If liking girly things is gay, then the girliest thing is girls so you cannot be more gay than someone liking girls" An internet guy i dont remember
Thats the exact logic my father uses to abuse my mom, to not seem gay or feminine
@@theadmin7165 well tell your dad while he's definitely not feminine, (granted I doubt he's human and not a demon) he is definitely belonging to jail
@@theadmin7165 What you said doesnât make sense, your dad abuses your mom to not seem gay because he thinks that liking women is gay? I think you might have responded to the wrong comment.
@@fishyzneedle I responded to the right one, as nonsensical as it seems he believes that liking women is bad, but fucking them is good. Its an exaggerated version of the old "I hate my wife and everything about women but hey they got ass" jokes you see in old boomer comics. He hates female fashion: the way they dress, the way they act, the way they style their hair (anything beyond regular long hair and a ponytail he hates), he hates makeup, their hygiene, My favorite example related to that but for guys is that he's ok with guys having long hair, but he hates it when they actually take care of it and it doesn't look awful. Idk how but he even manages to hate the fact that they give birth, and also because of that "we have to have them around"
@@Orangecataura yeah well he's a colonel in the police force so... I'll have good luck with that, thank you
Ah yes the manly man Spartans. Those manly men, WHO CONSTANTLY SLEPT WITH MEN AND WERE INCREDIBLY INCREDIBLY HOMOSEXUAL.
Nope
Same over here, my mom says things as "he is using piercings, he looks so feminine" and then I'm like "dear mom, haven't you seen precolombian natives using big emeralds, gold and turquoise over literally all their body and using something pretty similar to skirts?"
"Long hair is for women only"
*Laughs in entire human history
Short hair for men is actually quite recent
@@richard_from_england333 Slightly untrue, the ancient romans preferred shorter hairstyles - comparatively speaking at least, they'd probably be considered moderate length by today's standards - but that were derived from the military standard hair of a roman legionary at the time.
They were more the exception than the rule though.
@@alexandermackie7621 Yeah, that was the romans.. but there's history 100 000 years before them of wearing long hair.. Especially europeans who needed it for cold weather.. It was practical back then
@@richard_from_england333 I know, it's why I mentioned that they were more the exception than the rule. But I'm a law student, being pedantic comes as naturally as breathing for me.
My favorite reply to that is that if men in general were meant to only have short hair they would be genetically set so that it would just stop growing and the would even shed it after a certain length...
Colors? Bold. Make-up? Subtle. Hotel? Versailles.
Dying over here
That was a great joke and she shouldn't have apologized for it
One fact I loved reading about the 18th century when men wore stockings, is that people judged men's legs. George Washington apparently had great legs. All the ladies said so. I actually read that in a book from a reputable historian. He was also an elegant dancer and rode a horse very well. He was the total package.
I've heard of a lot of boomers and traditionalists talk about how much they wanted to return to the 1940s. An era when the whole world was at war, when you had to blackout your houses just to protect them from being bombed, run to a air raid shelter whenever the sirens went off, ration food so that no-one would starve and evacuate your children to the countryside for their own safety.
This rant paired with the increasingly more frenzied In the hall of the mountain king just killed me. This is not just a rant. This is art. An artful rant. Thank you
So right, words can't express how much I love the word choices in this video, she just delivers all the rage so well without even raising her voice :D
Bruh....when she said that men went "Fucking Feral" I 100% lost itđđđ
Yeah, perfect choice of music as she kept escalating her examples.
Edvard Grieg ftw!
That piece is probably the first meme song in history đ
"They're not "women's dresses. They're my dresses. I buy them. Itâs like when women wear trousers, theyâre not cross-dressing. Theyâre not wearing menâs trousers, theyâre wearing trousers.â (c) Eddie Izzard
Gender-non-conforming people are powerful.
@@thebiggestcauldron lol
Eddie Izzard is incredible
Love him!
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"Long hair is for women only"
Eren yeager: **bites hand**
"the time where men would go to war and die, jeez do I miss that"
Sarcasm đŻ
Word! As a fellow catholic it really makes me cringe when people pretend the Bible was written in 1950s USA.
Oh my gosh, yes, I have never read a truer sentence!
Exactly đ
Yes!
Applause forever!!!! đđŸđđŸđđŸđđŸđđŸ
@AnimeFanGirl2913 pack it up church stan
In short, there was a time when men had options, colors, cool accessories, a fucking fashion sense.
Agree. The thing that occurred to me as she was listing off all the things that weren't "manly" is that, in an individualistic culture, flouting nonsense rules is the height of "manliness."
Yessss!! Give everyone the fashion freedom
We have those still its just not as common. There is a renaissance of older styles and even mens fashion in general. Old styles are expensive nowadays for lack of market so most guys go with jeans, sweatpants and shirts and hoodies.
And now an innocent man can get ridiculed for literally wearing pink
idk what youre talking about, khakis and a t-shirt is the pinnacle of fashion
Dang I can't believe 3,000+ alpha males got so sad about this video they left a dislike đ€Ł
Keep it up girl, you're educating the masses and you deserve more followers and likes!!!
And Candice Owens. Lol
its not, we are very different, we dont like masculine women
she is delusional , its not, we are very different, we dont like masculine women
@@RR-et6zp honey the only delusional one here is you đ
@@Nick-dx2pt nope
I've never seen a content so accurate and articulated so precisely.
Hats off woman.
"2020 was unproblematic until Harry ruined it" lmaođđ
Not like there wasnt a global pandemic or anything smh
@@seventeencarattrash Not like there's people literally being killed, no, THIS was the greate tragedy of the century.
@@Elm04 here in my country, we experienced a volcanic eruption, months of lockdown that left most people jobless, thousands of people dying from covid, more than a dozen earthquakes, a super typhoon that destroyed the homes of millions people, then another typhoon a week later that had so much rain it sunk whole provinces and cities in flood. All that happened here in the Philippines in 2020 alone. And that's not counting all the bullsh*t that happened in other countries. Sounds terrible, huh? Nope because apparently for these morons, Harry Styles rocking a dress was the biggest tragedy of 2020đ€Ą Imagine being THAT privileged and still thinking you're oppressedđ
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@@mariunfabregas7533 I live in the Philippines too, aggravates the hell out of me to see these people whine about anything they disagree with when THERE ARE WORSE THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
"As we all know, colors are reserved for females"
Multiple species of birds etc where the male is the most colorful of the two: Are we a joke to you :(
((I know we're talking about humans here lol, but still))
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omg, i second this in hope that this comment wont get lost
Call some birds to watch the video lol
*peacocks are typing*
I saw a documentary once that was questioning exactly this: on the vast majority of the animal who have differences between male/female, the male is the one with more colours, patters, fur, singing, whatsoever, while the females are plain, why the heck human males are supposed to be plain and leave all the "decoration" to women? it's just not fair. Sometimes, boys just wanna have fun in the clothing shops lol
I love this! I can't believe you have never been in my recommended before Karolina this is now going to change, we need more people like you that speak sense! Thank you!
"Society is at the point where it's the breakpoint."
-Me
"Vibrant colors are reserved for women." Dang, didn't know I was a bird.
Peackocks: am I a joke to you?
Pretty much all birds: Am I a joke to you?
Ironically, in birds that show sexual dimorphism the males are typically the more colourful ones
@@dentedtester36 That is the point.
@@Cucumberturnip okay, oops đ
Last time I was this early, menly men wore high heals, makeup, and wigs.
same
the manliest men imo are the ones brave enough to defy the gender norms for men in society
also, hey, btw, a lil edit, manly men is a ridiculous term. fashion trends change too much for there to be any set âmanlinessâ, and in the end, manliness is too fucking simple and restrictive for all men to go by. fuck gender norms, return to being yourself
@@lgbtqiarights Hell yeah they are, preach
Last time I was this early, Egyptian men wore long wigs and their kings wore extravagant golden headpieces
Oh wait, I have never been earlier than an hour ):
This is the best version of this comment Iâve ever. seen.
Whenever I hear or see this obsession over "Manliness". Usually It's from insecure, lost and immature people that are complaining about being neglected. Basically the opposite of "Manliness". Honestly why even bother worrying about being "Manly" or "Womanly"? Just be respectful and efficient.
There's nothing wrong with being insecure, lost or immature. It doesn't make you less of a man
- Signed, an insecure, lost and immature man whose sick of having his masculinity defined by others
@@painunending4610 I mean it does if you don't change. Being more of a man in my opinion is the ability to have some self respect through working out and making sure your healthy and (very controversial) being able to hide your emotions. You need to understand that whatever the fuck your dealing with now is 1000x better than what some people are facing. You need to understand that if you can function normally and have all of your friends and family still alive, there should be no reason to cry, that's just being a pussy. I probs shouldn't have said hide your emotions, but def control them
@@turtleg7127 Understand that is your interpretation on a subjective trait. If that works for you by all means, have at it. But don't you dare put that expectation on me or others, keep it to yourself
@@painunending4610 but that's what being manly is, if you don't have that your not manly, your just either an average person or your a weak person. Your not manly if you are fucking insecure, lost and immature. Sorry to break it to you, I do hope you find yourself eventually
@@turtleg7127no that's what YOU think is manly. I'm a man so by default I am manly, cuz y'know I'm a man. I don't have to perform being manly because I just am
To me being manly is about being accepting. Your not accepting right now so you aren't manly. To me being manly is about having self-respect and standing up for yourself, I'm doing both of those things so I am manly. See how that works?
YOU created/subscribed to that definition and now YOU are applying it to me, specifically when I asked you not to
Why are you so offended? Why do you care? Why aren't you controlling your emotions right now? Not very manly of you is it?
The manliest thing a man can wear is a kilt. You cannot change my mind.
"Men went f*cking feral" I don't know why I found this so funny but I can't stop laughing
I legit spat out my drink! It would make a good t-shirt
So you're saying that Harry Styles wearing that dress is basically him flexing his manly wealth and ability to afford manly high fashion upon lesser men??? đ±
Ooo đ
Sounds legit
Like gowns are fucking expensive and a lot more varied than suits as a whole so I have no doubt that gown is more expensive than a lot of "manly men" fashion.
That dress probably cost more than my yearly wage tbh
And his comfort with his own body/ sexuality. If you feel like a bit of fabric jeopardizes you sexuality.... you got more problems then some dude in a dress.
I love your "rant" videos because they just get the point
âmen went fucking feral with their gorgeous, voluminous locksâ đ€Łđ€Ł
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Yes yes yes yes YES!
Omg âšđłâš preach
Or when you _are_ attractive in their eyes but don't want to do anything with it... đ€ (aroace speaking)
Fun fact,the viking men where big fans of being fashionable, also they spent a lot of time on their hair and/or beards.
Yes they bleached their hair with lye... Part of that was to dispel lice.
@Auryn Voss they even used eye makeup to look good!
They also wore shorts and stockings (which is how their famous baggy pants look were historically accomplished)
@@isidorskogberg03 stockings? i know that was the case for many of the upper class in later times. But then again the foot/leg wrappings is basically the same? Or did they really have something like real leggings? i must know!
they also groomed their beards on a weekly basis! every Saturday.
1st thing that came to mind - Men were peacocks in âoldenâ times, have they not seen paintings of Louis XIV⊠his high heels đ and finery? Along long with all the other examples you mentioned. Your rants are cathartic for viewers as well. :)
This is so full of brilliance. Your wry delivery made me cackle more than once. Thank you! đ
âDresses are for womanâ
*looks at literally most cultures* hum...
The problem with dresses is that they are not very convenient for horse riding.
Similarly, women started wearing things approximating to trousers when the bicycle became fashionable.
If you don't need to sit astride something then a dress type of garment is generally simpler and more comfortable.
@@Hfil66 - That's why riders had the tunics or kilts, and horse-nomads wore trousers.
Look at Scotland
@Brutally Cynical no, when you say "dress" you say "dress", no adjectives added, just any and all dresses.
@Channel Closed most eloquent way to describe your misogyny
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Thank you turtle. very cool
You're a saint
Am I a crazy person or did I see you comment on the newest game grumps video.
Keep doing God's work đđ
This topic has been an eye-roller for me. It's comforting to hear someone say it.
This is now one of my favorite teams and reviews on this subject! Thank you so much for pointing this out. I have been saying this for years. It is sad too that seems like only ladies like yourself are quick to remind us of these facts and defend men's rights to dress this way. Where are the REAL men of courage?
It seems to me that three major events changed men's fashion to what it is considered today and not for the better. One, the French revolution, two, industrialization, and three wars. Two of those for sure were very negative events.
I'm Turkish, and people here are saying "bring back manly men" here too, but the funny thing is that like a couple of hundred years ago even the kings wore long dresses
19. YĂŒzyıla kadar hiç bir padiĆahın hatta direkt Osmanlı'da normal bir erkeÄin pantolon giymediÄi gerçeÄi peki
@@blueberry.milkshakequeen6946 EVET SĆBSWOJBDLWHDLFNGPFGLY
Burada bırak elbiseyi, sakalsız bıyıksız gezen erkeÄi döverler dsdfjklĆdf
Watching Turkish TV soap operas as MuhteĆem YĂŒzyıl made me want to have clothes with fabrics similar to those their costumes were made of, feminine and masculine alike. I loved the blue palette that SĂŒleyman used to wear
It's not about the particular clothes. It is about whether you are wearing different clothes from the women at your time and location.
âMen who wear dresses arenât menâ
[Laughs in Roman Empire]
Togas are not dresses. Roman men and women dressed very differently in clothing, hair styles, and makeup.
kev3d hmm sure they were a bit diffrent from each other but you gotta be honest my dude. A toga is a dress.
@@ina7133 No it isn't, just like a kilt is not a skirt.
@@sarahmatthews5878 .... Definition A 1 of skirt: a free-hanging part of an outer garment or undergarment extending from the waist down.
Definition of a kilt: a garment resembling a knee-length skirt of pleated tartan cloth, traditionally worn by men as part of Scottish Highland dress and now also worn by women and girls.
Please note on how the word âskirtâ is used. A kilt IS a skirt, get over it.
@@kev3d Alright, but in Scotland, men wear kilts and it's very manly. Kilts ARE basically skirts. They just are; Don't argue with me. You sound like one of those people trying to shit on men who wear skirts and you're reaching so damn hard to try and prove a point. Also, kilts/just tartan skirts really are also worn by women. A KILT IS LITERALLY A SKIRT. IT IS THE SAME THING. I wear skirts, I fucking know what a skirt is, so don't even argue, sweetie. The level of reaching that you just tried to do is fucking pathetic. Get over yourself.
People saying âbring make manly menâ are the same ones who would freak over a guy wearing the color pink. How about you find the masculine men YOU want and leave the ones alone who want to express themselves without societal gender expectations
I've never understood the obsession of "manly men" aka Western guys who are big, muscular, hairy and sweaty--because ewwww no I'm not marrying a guy like that! "Oh so you wanna marry a weakling then?"
It's like people act like these standards have existed since the days of Adam and Eve, when the reality is, the "manly men" stereotype is a fairly recent trend. There was a time when pink was considered a masculine colour, because pink is a variation of red, which was also a masculine colour. Now a guy would probably be laughed out of the office for wearing pink because it's "feminine". If a man is wearing bright colours, tight clothing or any jewellery that isn't a ring or a watch? "OMG HE'S GAY!" And don't get me started on guys who have long hair or wear ponytails or--God forbid--man-buns. It's not about how men dress. It's about how they treat others, men and women alike. Also, I want a man who isn't going to be sweaty, hairy and smelly all the time. Is that "too feminine" to ask for?
-Sincerely, a woman who dresses in both masculine and feminine ways, has been told never to go out with a guy in a manbun and would probably get the talking-to of her life if she ever brought home a guy who looked like a Kpop idol. Come at me Candace.
Hey I'm a MANLY MAN that wears buttonup SHIRTS (that I sewed myself with my sewing machine).
proud of u zach
Wow I proud of you! đđđ
Sewing is sew amazing ngl
You're awsome! I'm a woman and the best I can manage is attach a button đ
Wait that's so cool