I Found A Commodore 1581 Floppy Drive - RavenWolf Roadshow S1E1
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- This is the first episode in a new series called RavenWolf Roadshow. In it we look at a Commodore 1581 3.5" floppy drive found in the Stone Collection and look at some history and features of the drive.
Apparently I am having issues with the sound levels being different after uploading. I apologize for that, its actually one of my pet peeves!
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CONTENTS
00:00 Introduction
00:35 Finding the 1581 - Picking
01:45 1581 History and Features - The Roadshow
02:40 Styrofoam Reaction
04:42 The Recall
05:38 Roadshow Repair Estimate
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Let me know if you like this kind of shorter more informative bonus video. It was fun to make and the research part is interesting.
1581 is certainly the "holy grail" of Commodore drives - very hard to find these days. It was expensive when it came out. Unfortunately as you say, very little software came out for it. It's largely been superseded by the SD2IEC cards these days. Still a great find.
I bought my 1581 sometime in 1988 for around $179 at Toys'R'Us. Blew my mind on how much space it was available on my C64 at the time. lol.
We were talking about how much hardware we bought at toys are us just this weekend...
By the time this came out I'd already spent almost $600 for the C64 and $400 for the 1541. I also moved on to the Amiga and PC clones.
I bought a Commodore 1581 as a kid during its time, then later sold it... regretted selling it... recently as an adult, I bought it on e-bay, for around $200... and now I have two of these in my collection... really enjoy using it , compared with my C-1541 and C1571s... love using the 3.5" disk formats and so much faster to load/save, compared to the 5.25" disks...
I'm glad you were able to get one again. You actually caught me as I am upgrading the 128D for use testing DDM builds and I am adding my 1581 to it as part of the process. I want to make sure that DDM works for people with their existing hardware as much as possible. What ways do you use it?
I just use it to save and load programs... nothing special... I have Commodore VIC-20, 64, 128D and Plus/4.
Great video, I learned something new! I wonder how these drives performed. Commodore had so many issues with their native DOS firmware in the 1541 -- I wonder if they ever made a better DOS or if they opted for backward compatibility. I notice the JiffyDOS chip at 4:50. Great production value, my only small request would be to turn down the audio music level to be more on par with your voice. Looking forward to seeing more!
Jack, thanks. It does support the Burst mode but IIRC that only works on a 128 in 128 mode.
OMG YES on the audio. I am having issues where CZcams messes with the volume on my background sounds (Music and Ambience) This time it went up instead of the usual down so I apologize. A family member who edits some videos for a 100k plus sub channel just agreed this morning to take a look to help me with this!
I got an boxed 1581 some days ago for only 55 $ here in Norway. Box and styrofoam was very good, manual and 1581 demo disk also there 🙂🙂
Nice find!
I still have 2 1581 Drives so I'll be looking to see if either one has that 'funky' Western Digital Chip. I'm wondering if I could find the replacement readily available? -Mark.
Mark, don't sweat it. There was only one bad batch of the WD1770s. If the drives work fine they don't need replaced. I checked 3 drives and none of them had the replacement chips...
The biggest issue of course...........price. It was more expensive than a Commodore 64 which killed any hope it might have had of large scale acceptance.
Yeah plus the fact that, by the time it came out, everyone I knew was on to the Amiga.
Very interesting, and appreciated - but I have one question.... Do you blink?
Lol. Not when I'm also trying to figure out how to shoot a scripted video. It was my first try at a information video.
Literally took me to the end of the video to figure out why there was crowd noise in the background.
Yeah, I had a nephew totally confused. Apparently not everyone used to watch antiques roadshow 🤓
😲I've never even heard of this. That would probably been a dream product vs 1541? Though I might not afforded it. I doubt that sold that much in Sweden or else I would have noticed it. How much, roughly, estimated difference vs 1541 in price in the US, if anyone remembers?
Olof, looking at the same magazine that had the 1581 at $179.95, the 1541C was $149.95, so not that much of a price difference BUT you would still need the 1541 because you could not buy much software at all on 3.5" disks for the C64 or C128.
@@RavenWolfRetroTech Thanks for the answer. The price difference was less than I thought. But I also realized that the 3.5 disks themselves might cost more that might made it not hit the shelves in Sweden much.
Who's garage / shop did you say we're seeing?
Darren, it is the shop of Karl Stones that was abandoned around the year 2000. He was a local users group leader and worked for the school district doing service and repair. There are some videos linked in the description or you can see a playlist here: czcams.com/play/PLjh7iJGh7aX7SO9Zu03JvUVD0XmRzVUd_.html
I loved this drive, and appreciate your video, but I just couldn't watch it with all that background noise. What is with the crowd noise???
Ron, sorry about that. It's to simulate the crowd noise in antiques roadshow but in the future it will be dramatically lower in volume if not removed entirely...
Great video as I would love one of those for my commodore bits, however the track beneath your voice of people talking was a little off-putting when listening to your video through headphones.
Sorry about that, I am having issues with the audio levels changing when I upload. I have help coming from a more experienced editor and will make sure anything like that errs on the side of too low in the future.
:) No worries, looking forward to seeing what other treasures await in future videos.
I was able to cut the super loud music transition out using the youtube studio editor
At first I thought I had another browser window open that was playing something at the same time! When I paused this video and it disappeared I knew!
Anyway, I didnt find it all that distracting as this was a short video.
The 1581 is a great drive. made using Geos better, BBS storage,worked well for undoing ZIPCODE! archives etc.,putting more games one one disk etc.
Thank You a4000t, I love knowing what people used these for! For games it seems it was limited to ones that used no hardware drive access. Was that a big issue?
@@RavenWolfRetroTech There were many ways around copy protections and things like ISEPIC,action replay, and super snapshot carts that could make games into 1 file. It didn't work for every game,but many were fine. With 3000 blocks free you would of had a lot of room for code,utilities etc. In 128 mode you could use the fast mode for quicker transfers also. I still have all my 'favorites' 1581 game disks,loads of utility disks i made up, GEOS, assemblers/compilers/crunchers etc. and gobs of Sid files disks on the 1581 format. Great for downloading stuff off of Q-link too. BBS storage was great with them if you didnt have a C= SFD 1001 drive which was 1Meg and IEEE-488 interface.