Kyle Katarn: Jedi Knight Series | Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, Jedi Outcast & Jedi Academy Review
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- Jedi Knight series review. The Kyle Katarn series - Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy.
Star Wars Dark Forces was released for DOS PC and Mac in 1995 and later ported to the PlayStation. Dark Forces introduces us to Kyle Katarn and his partner and pilot Jan Ors. After having successfully stolen the Death Star Plans, Kyle is again hired by the Alliance to infiltrate and disrupt an Imperial cell who are developing super battle droids known as Dark Troopers.
The Dark Forces PC game came out two years after Doom and was bemoaned on its release as being another “Doom Clone”. But in a lot of ways Dark Forces was more sophisticated than ID’s shooter.
Dark Forces made one hell of a splash, selling near enough a million copies over its lifetime, almost making it into the top ten selling PC games of the 90s. Dark Forces remains one of my all-time favourite Star Wars PC games and even today it’s impact is well-remembered.
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight followed in 1997. The PC FPS genre had changed considerably since Dark Forces and LucasArts was competing against ID’s Quake. Dark Forces 2 PC game supported hardware acceleration, one of the first engines using Direct3D.
Jedi Knight, the second game in the Jedi Knight PC game series sees Kyle picks up his first lightsaber. As the PC game goes on, Kyle develops Force powers which the player can upgrade between levels, from both sides of the Force. Dark Forces 2 has two endings, depending on whether the player chooses to focus on the Light or the Dark Side. The Jedi Knight PC game was tremendously well-received both for the single player and also the online multiplayer.
LucasArts followed Dark Forces II PC game with the full expansion, Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith. Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith has some of the most significant crossovers with the EU; this is the only time Mara Jade appears as a playable character in a Star Wars game. In my review of the MotS PC game I said I actually preferred it to Jedi Knight, and it was fairly well received back in the day. The story is fantastic, and the way it weaves into the Expanded Universe is second to none.
The third PC game in the Jedi Knight PC game series is called Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast. Dropping Dark Forces totally, Jedi Knight 2’s development was outsourced to Raven Software. Powered by ID’s Quake III: Arena engine, Jedi Outcast’s lightsaber combat is what separated it from every other PC game. Jedi Knight 2 made it feel like you were controlling a more elegant weapon from a more civilised age. Jedi Knight II Jedi Outcast features upgradeable Force powers, but this time Kyle’s powers unlock with no decision-making from the player. Easily the best story in any Star Wars PC game, Raven did a tremendous job of framing a flawed, human Jedi and voice actor Jeff Bennett delivers a great performance, Kyle’s anger always bubbling just below the surface.
Jedi Knight 2 was a PC game ported to Xbox and GameCube and smashed reviews on all formats. The best Star Wars game ever, the story and lightsaber combat is what gamers still rave about now.
LucasArts gave Raven one year to develop another game in the Jedi Knight PC game series, the sequel to Jedi Knight II. Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy focused on customisation and player agency. Kyle Katarn teaches Jedi Academy’s protagonist Jaden Korr in the ways of the Force, and when Jaden discovers a new Sith cult is harvesting Dark Side energy from places like Hoth and The Valley of the Jedi, Katarn joins his protege on missions around the galaxy.
The player agency in Jedi Academy PC game sees players able to customise their look, choose from a variety of lightsaber styles as well as develop their own character over the series of the game. The ability to wield dual sabers or the saber staff for the first time blew a lot of gamers away and this keeps people coming back to the game even today. Jedi Academy is probably the most well-realised lightsaber game ever made. Nothing since has captured the variety and depth of gameplay that was on offer here. A fitting end to the Jedi Knight games series, it’s just a shame we’ve not seen any more of these Jedi PC games.
The Jedi Knight series of PC games survived the jumped to consoles, something which killed off other Star Wars PC game series.
The Jedi Knight games series remained one of the shining lights of the EU. This series of Star Wars PC games proved that a good story and the richness of the Star Wars universe was enough to make a great video game. The Jedi Knight PC games series is a great series of games, every game is recommended.
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I always thought it would be funny if they just kept adding a new name to each game, but never dropped the previous ones:
- Dark Forces
- Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight
- Dark Forces 3: Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast
- Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy
Technically speaking, there is one more game that should be added to that list: Mysteries of the Sith. It came I think one year after Dark Forces II did. So if that were the case, it would be:
Dark Forces 3: Jedi Knight 2: Mysteries of the Sith
Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast
Dark Forces 5: Jedi Knight 4: Jedi Academy
However, I think the reason why Mysteries of the Sith and Jedi Academy didn't put any number after the "Jedi Knight" portion of the title is because Kyle Katarn wasn't the central character in either of those games; he was demoted to NPC status in both.
To further this theory of mine, I only recently found out that there was to actually be a third entry in the Jedi Knight series (that would actually have had the number 3 in the title), that was to come out after Jedi Academy; it was going to be called Jedi Knight III: Brink of Darkness, and it was going to be meant to conclude Kyle Katarn's story in the series, which of course would mean Kyle was going to be the player character again. However, the game scrapped due to LucasArts simply deciding not to go that route, and as a result, no build was ever released or even made, to my knowledge anyway.
But, bottom line, since Kyle was going to be the central character in Brink of Darkness, that's why they would have named it "Jedi Knight III: Brink of Darkness" instead of leaving the number off of the title, which is what they did with Mysteries of the Sith and Jedi Academy.
"I'm no Jedi. I'm just a guy with a lightsaber and a few questions."
"Ah yes! Many people have them."
"Lightsabers?"
"Questions."
"A corellian ale ... in a clean glass!"
"never trust a bartender with bad grammar."
A Jedis! I had no ideas! What can I do for you, honored Jedis?
@@SebaP1991 Please, noble Jedis! Not in the faces!
Kyle Katarn is one of the things I miss the most from the now Legends canon.
Yeah me too. Absolute unsung hero of the old EU.
I miss Katarns sarcasm, like: "Yooou always sense a disturbance in the Force". :D :D :D
@@KilljoySR I miss Rosh Penin especially, which is what i would say if he wasn't a pesky kid that turned against me. XD
Cassian Andor = (first name draft, because "Kyle" was taken by...Kylo Ren) Willix "Will" Cassein = Kyle Katarn;
Jyn Erso = Jan Ors;
Director Krennic = Orinackra Prison;
blind Chirrut Îmwe = blind Inquisitor Jerec...
@@RazvanMihaeanu
Fuck Erso. Never cared about her. Only liked Rogue One because of Vader.
End of JKII Outcast: "Guess it takes a failed Jedi to take down another failed Jedi" Luke: "You were never a failure Kyle" Start of Jedi Academy, Luke: "Jaden Corr, you'll be learning from Master Katarn"
@@AndikaClassic I wish you could of played as Kyle Katarn for the final level and faced off with Jaden in an epic battle if they chose the dark side
If Disney ever make a series about a Jedi who is not Skywalker, it should be about Kyle Katarn.
@@julianmarco4185 They will make a series about a Jedi who is not a Skywalker! It's about Obi-Wan. Who is 100% not a Skywalker.
@@SouLeozinho Yes, you got me there but I was thinking of moving away from the trilogy not being stuck in prequel purgatory.
@@julianmarco4185 Because Prequels are the best and unless they bring Ben Solo back and take back the rank of Skywalker from Rey, I don't want anything to do with Sequel era lol. For now I pretend they not exist, Anakin killed Palpatine, the end.
Jedi Knight Jedi Outcast will forever be my all-time favorite Star Wars game...
And you will forever be correct about that.
Same here. Academy is with it. I consider both these games as one title. They are just too similar to each other. Jedi Outcast for story and levels and Jedi Academy for everything else.
playing the remaster right now....
@@maksymiliankossakowski4536 Exactly, Jedi Academy is pretty much a glorified expansion, especially with that one year development cycle.
And there are bunch of MODS for those games.
personally I would be quite satisfied with only HD graphics for Academy and Outcast. Don't change physics or engine or whatever....just textures in HD.....
Does anyone played KOTF created and collected by some Turkish guy?
With EA in charge we will never see amazing Star Wars games like this ever again.
We keep our channel as positive as we possibly can, but I'm inclined to agree with you here.
I try to keep my fingers crossed and close my eyes imagining what EA could do with amazing Star Wars video games and I want them to do amazing things, but things wont change unless EA changes.
I don't entirely agree, Lucasarts was already sabotaging its own Star Wars games before they went defunct because of disney
hopefully the new respawn star wars game is good
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order seems pretty decent
Dark Forces II is my childhood. I miss this series so much.
I've covered them all now. Easily the best series of Star Wars games ever. Feel free to check out our other videos.
SAME
Same. My childhood too!
i played it on my 233 mhz pentium back in i dont know 1998? i think you have to remember where you came from and preserve things that shaped you
Kyle Katarn is *_THE_* best SW character imo, I wish I could play him in Academy and I wish we'd got more games
I think that depends on how many characters people actually know in the expanded universe. I for instance has quite a few, such as Jaina Solo Fel.
@@wedgeantilles4712 there is always going to be gaps in my knowledge, and that's why I said IMO
Jedi outcast felt ahead of its time for me when it came out. It's probably the best one of the series. A game like nothing you had experienced before. Still, I really liked how jedi academy gave you more freedom with the saber combat and new force powers. Sure, jedi academy is an upgraded version of outcast which technically makes it a better game, but Outcast to me felt more balanced, adventurous and groundbreaking.
The sequel trilogy needed more Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade, and Dash Rendar too.
Absolutely more Dash Rendar!
And Jaxxon! The Star-hopper ;-)
You mean a protagonist on god mode and the old cast to die ?
Say no more fam say no more
also dont forget jan ors, when I got the darkside ending in jk1, i literally restarted. I cant believe how much better of a character she is than any of the sequel characters
Yeah this is the true sequel to the movies in my mind
for me its the thrawn trilogy
playing through outcast and academy once again... these games never get old
majima-san
EJK Yakuza computer 😁 that game was my favorite game. Games now just feel like crap compared.
Jedi Knight blew my mind with how complex it was back in the day, not necessarily the graphics which were honestly well behind Quake 2, but the gameplay mechanics like the complex objectives, force powers, items and interactive elements. It was already doing things Half-Life would be praised for a year later.
Also Mara Jade is playable in Masters of the Teras Kasi but it's okay if you want to forget that game existed. We all do.
"JKII is easily the best story in any star wars game"
*Angry KOTOR noises*
Fallout: in space!
Total agreement 👍
Angry Fallen order noises
@The Cambot Wait, KOTOR is convoluted and messy? May i ask how thats quite the statement lol
don't take it too seriously, the two games aren't exactly comparable and for sure neither is better than the other.
Jedi Outcast is just more compact / fast paced & quick, delivering immediately what you want in both action and story, but definitely not better or superior.
This game is why I was disappointed with Rogue One - it removed Kyle Katarn from continuity and replaced him with a bunch of characters I didn't care about.
I wasn't disappointed with Rogue One so to speak, but I was slightly disappointed that we didn't get a little callback to Kyle. Could have been anything really. I made a video about the games which got wiped out by Rogue One, check it out: czcams.com/video/suFpWG3TMRk/video.html
It upsets me that they clearly used the dark forces as a backdrop. There are a lot f parallels with the movie and the games but no Credit is actually given. I liked the movie but it annoying also when I talk about dark forces nobody knows what I'm talking about and its really like my personal catalyst into star wars, gaming and reading!
They did this because the EU is considered non-canon and Disney replaced the story isntead about a story that focuses on teh harsh realities of war, also dont you think it would be a bit boring to have another force-sensitive lightsabre-weilding protagnist to make movies about?
8:28 - _Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic_ allowed the player to visit Korriban and was released several months prior to _Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy._ Also, _Knights of the Old Republic_ allowed the player to dual-wield sabers as well as use the saberstaff before _Jedi Academy_ did.
For clarity, here in Europe KOTOR was released the same week as Jedi Academy, not several months as it was in North America.
Different games though, but both sagas were incredible among the massive amount of Star Wars games. I love both KOTOR and Jedi Knights
srsly man? kotor's lightsaber combat practically non-existing especially compared to jedi knight series..
@@MrBurakOzel I never said there was any substance to the combat. Just that it existed.
Shame about 1313 this would have been the spiritual successor to the JEDI series.
your channel is so underrated
Jedi Outcast is still, hands down, the best SW game ever made. The story is simply incredible. I wish it could be remastered, but we know none of these ever will be.
Completely agreed. Fantastic story, fantastic characters, fantastic setting, fantastic combat. Just a little bit of polish and this would be a great game in the EA arsenal. But there's nowhere to peg microtransactions, so they won't!
Correct but X-wing alliance is up with it imo
Tbf, Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy both run on the very user-friendly id Tech 3 engine, which has aged extraordinarily well, so a full remaster wouldn't be as needed for those games. They still run and optimize perfectly fine, and are very mod-friendly as well!
loved this video and love the series
but Mara Jade was also a playable character in Masters of Teras Kasi on ps1
Maybe he meant it was the only game that was worth playing that she was in.
She was also playable n the Wii version of the force unleashed as a multiplayer character.
Mara Jade was also unlockable and playable in Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi. She borrowed from Luke and Darth Vader's movesets, as I recall.
You could also be her in star wars empire at war if you play the ground skirmish mode as the empire
that's actually some neat story telling
Watching footage of Jedi Outcast, I felt like it was a video of my own life. That game was so immersive and compelling, I felt like it was real.
Dark Forces, Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast, Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy...The titles of these games is enough to make AVGN chronologically confused.
And the final installment always remained ambiguous when it came to its name. Some people called it JK:JA, some JKA, while others called it JK3.
I've always joked that the final game should technically be called Dark Forces 4, Jedi Knight 3, Jedi Outcast 2, Jedi Academy.
'Jedi Knight' was what I was expecting out of Jedi fallen order. A game where u can use both guns and lightsabers
I haven't played it yet, I can't wait to give it a go!
@@MattyStoked "Fallen Order" felt like an obstacle course to me. The developers keep tight control over what challenges you have to solve in which manner. Why can't there be more "immersive sim" games like the Thief or Dishonored series?
@@swdev245 i liked it, it felt like a Metroidvania-type game and i love those sorts of games
@@swdev245 that's because the creators of the game are the creators of the Tomb Raider reboot. Respawn was thinking more Tomb Raiderish, than they were Star Wars. Tomb Raider is supposed to be puzzle/obstacle course.
goddamn it Disney give us another jedi knight game you knobheads
crabapple they killed Kyle Katarn and Galen Marek smh!
No thank you not if Disney makes them
Fallen Order is close.
I want 1313
I remember watching my dad play jedi outcast when I was a kid. He liked to play with the guns, but the first time I saw him pull out the lightsaber and throw it down the hall at some stormtroopers... I instantly wanted to play it. My dad was strict and told me I was too young to play it. I forgot about if for a while until I went to move to collage. My dad gave me a large collection of games he loved playing, but couldn't anymore, and both Jedi Outcast and Jedi Acadamy were in that collection. I played through them both as soon as I could, and I still come back and play them from time to time. I found the previous games later and played through all of them too, but Outcast and Academy will always be special to me.
one thing people forget is that when using a lightsaber in jedi knight you couldn't move and block blaster bolts,in outcast they fixed this major problem and every engagement felt like episode 1 when obiwan and quigon go busting down that hallway blocking blaster bolts and cutting down droids!
I'm here because I wanted to see Jedi Outcast again.. To me, this game forever holds as a better story experience than any of the movies.
Jedi Outcast is my favourite Star Wars thing ever
@@MattyStoked It's amazing how good it still looks like today. I might play it again :)
@@popkorn256 yeah, honestly i few more poligon here and there, better lighting at it could pass as a modern game
I still play Academy and Outcast now and again. I still enjoy playing them, and the graphics still look decent to me. Will never get rid of them, both classic titles!
Hey just let everyone know Jedi outcast got dropped on the Nintendo Switch E-shop and Jedi Academy will be brought to the E-shop in the next couple of months.
It's sad that some people won't play these games just because, " the games are old and dont have pretty modern graphics." one guy complained about Jedi Knight's blocky graphics and It's annoying because to expect an older game to hold up to today's standards is ludicrous. That's why I tend to appreciate gameplay over visuals because visuals will always be the first thing in games that becomes dated.
Absolutely. I've never been graphics over gameplay; I've always enjoyed playing older games. Don't get me wrong, when I saw Doom running on Raff's PC I was blown away by the visuals. But what kept me playing that game was the absolutely PURE gameplay. That game could look like hammered poodoo and I'd still clock up as many hours. You can't do much about the blocky models but there are some wicked patches out there to get 90s games looking sweet on a modern system.
What are you talking about, Jedi Outcast has the most beautiful graphics I've ever seen in a video game, compared to its predecessor. The jump from JK to JK2 is far bigger than any jump in graphics from the modern era.
Jedi outcast and Jedi Academy have actually age very well.
Its better to play old masterpiece than modern garbage, when every game is a clone and dont have soul
Ironinquisitor i played it in 2016. my younger 20 years old friend who grew up playing games like gta v looked at the screen and said it doesnt look bad
Yeah, I reinstalled Jedi Outcast and Academy shortly after watching the Last Jedi. No other Star Wars games could satisfy the Star Wars hunger :)
Every once in a while I do a play through of Kotor and Kotor2, but something about that "imperial remnant" era that really immerses people. Books and games
@@cosinguspalpatine4449 kotor 2 is my all time favorite game it and the original are amazing
I've played and enjoyed all of these. Truly a great series.
I'd consider Jedi Fallen Order to be the closest we'll get to a successor, and it's a fine addition to the Legends family.
Something to note is that Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn and Starkiller have been added to the Galaxy of Heroes game, which means that Disney at least hasn’t completely abandoned them.
I’m finally playing Jedi Academy and I love it.
Yess! Thanks for letting me know, that's awesome. I was a latecomer to Jedi Academy. I played it for 15 minutes on my mate's PC back when it came out and then never again until last year. I missed a trick, it's a great game.
It’s actually a challenge for once
"Jedi Knight II is easily the best story in any star wars game"
KOTOR: am I a joke to you?
agreed, both are good but kotor has a better story and is the superior game overall
@@debrickashaw9387 Eh. I don't know if that's a fair comparison, seeing as they are different genres with different selling points. They're both so good it kinda comes down to whether you prefer RPGs or action games.
@@RelativelyBest RPGs by their nature do have a better foundation to tell a story
KOTOR's story is child's play compared to KOTOR II's
@@mac_pls maybe😃
Jedi Fallen Order was great just needed more lightsaber duels and less wall running, that cameo though made my entire year! Good story, good combat, awesome lightsaber customization
Hey brune
Cool vid. Loved hearing about the engines and reasoning for design choices.
Just a heads up Korriban first appeared in KotoR. Both came out in 2003 but KotoR was first to market on the Xbox
Best review ever for Kyle Katarn, I think he deserves it. Good job man.
He's my favourite! :-D
This video was damn good, I will definitely have to pick some of these up.
Thank you mate - now you're helping me out :-D If you like an old-school game I really recommend Dark Forces. Jedi Knight 2 is legitimately still one of the best PC games I've ever played.
The Game Show: I'll definitely check it out, I reckon GoG will have it... or I'll track down a good old boxed copy.
GOG definitely has all of them. Boxed copies always go cheap, too.
The Game Show: Will definitely pick them up, I would love to benchmark some older stuff.
10,000fps 🔥🔥🔥
I'll always never understand why Rogue One didn't reintroduce Kyle
EDIT: Also the speed run of Jedi Knight is absolutely thrilling since they decided to use force speed as an accelerator instead of time dilation, plus the FMV wasn't terrible! Now a days I really dig the idea of Dark Jedi as a new direction over Sith.
Incredible coverage for these games. Subscribed! It brought be back to my childhood and now I’m looking to start playing Jedi Knight again.
Thanks so much mate. I'm glad you liked it, I loved making it. I booted up Jedi Knight again this weekend by coincidence. Really great games.
How is it that there hasn’t been a game that tops Jedi Knight 2 from gameplay?. story has been done well since.. But gameplay has never been topped. The lightsaber combat is amazing still.. The ability to effect what move you are doing is great.. The stance/style changes as well.. The fun level was off the charts then.. Jedi Knight 2 made you feel like a bad ass.. The multiplayer let you test your skills against other warriors..
The online was so great that users themselves created in game role playing.. Bespin was the top map because of the landing pad.. Players would enter sitting/crouch, lightsaber off and 2 would fight in the ring.. The winner would fight challenger.. Its the only game I’ve ever played were Honor was actually a thing people cared about because of the depth of gameplay.. It’s a shame that Outcast isn’t getting multiplayer with the rerelease.. However Academy is.. And that had even more to it so I understand the desire to focus the multiplayer in 1 place.. If they go the extra mile on that product and add some more maps and some from Outcast and stuff they will be highly highly rewarded.. Hopefully the buzz makes those that can make a new game in the series sit the fuck up and do it. 👌
It's being rereleased?
I never picked up on that when I was a kid. Was probably the worst person on the servers
Geeeee8 Yeah that’s why you probably had people picking you up and throwing you off the map because you weren’t duelling with honour 1 on 1.. You can probably find videos of what I’m talking about with the duelling on bespins landing platform.. Anyone running around with a gun was quickly dispatched with or made to leave the game. Good times.
I remember getting kicked for laming. Though yea I didn't really know what I was doing
Geeeee8 Well you’ve got another chance to get it right now the games have been rereleased.. I was 15 when JK2 came out and it’s still one of my most fondest memories with a Star Wars game.. The Saber combat was deep and rewarding.. The player created community around honour and duelling to this day is unmatched.. Only game I’ve ever played that had players actually care about that stuff..
Dark Forces was my first FPS.
I’ll never forget how blown away I was.
The game definitely blew me away back then and so did Shadows of the Empire which I appreciated because you had the Hoth Level in the Snow Speeder and two levels where you piloted the Outrider. I think I like DF2 better but wish I could have the features of those 2 games in one plus Shadows had some cool weapon although unfortunate it was the same blaster just different ammo where DF2 you had different weapons..
I've got the lightsaber symbol tattooed on my arm. It was the first game I watched my dad play when I was a kid.
That's wicked :-D
"In a galaxy far far away..." back in the days when games were games, better than any triple A games these days, back in the days when games had good consistent stories.
Exactly, today "games" are usually just products... they must be easy and dumb to be sold to most people... no love in them.
Dark forces 2 and mysteries of the sith give me so much nostalgia
Those two games along with X-Wing vs TIE Fighter and X-Wing Alliance were my life back in the days of the MSN Gaming Zone. I'd play them every day after school.
Jedi Knight II is my favourite, but love Dark Forces and well, all of them really.
Definitely agree!
I am currently playing Dark Forces 2. It aged well. You have to think more strategically when developing your force powers. Compared to later titles. And graphics don't have to be a problem. It's the gameplay and story that counts
The New Trilogy that we needed...
...but not yet deserved.
RIP Star Wars
Watching this before going home and installing Outcast...can't wait!
I could be wrong but I do believe the first appearance of Korriban in-game was with Knights of the Old Republic which came out two months earlier.
Fantastic video!
If you want to be really technical the first mention of Korriban in an interactive medium is the Behind the Magic CD-ROM.
Just a quick trivia note, Jedi Academy was not the first game to feature Korriban. It released in september 2003, while KOTOR also featured Korriban and released in July of the same year. Great video!
Dark Forces 2 was my first Star Wars game. I remember sinking hours into that game at my dads place.
Great quality vid without dragging it too much. Liked & Subscribed.
Thank you so much. I am working on new stuff right now, so hopefully you'll see some notifications popping up shortly! :-)
Yes you should making new material, keep on working and publishing content. All the best. Believe in yourself, your videos have class.
My most favorite Star Wars game series back in the day. Couldn’t get enough of playing them in my college years. I love Katarn and Jan Ore story. Especially upon seeing Mara Jade.
Mine too! I'm glad you're on board :-)
Instant Subbed! I loved all of this! As the Jedi Knight and Dark Forces series will always be near and dear to my heart
Thank you so much for the sub! More Kyle Katarn content stuff coming soon but I have some other Star Wars stuff coming first, and other videos about weird old PC games :-D
Yo wtf why do you have like no subs. That is criminal. Your production and editing and writing are all top notch.
Thank you so much! We're out here grinding as they say. It means the world that you found the video and left a nice comment. Thank you 👍
Small addendum to your great video: Mara Jade was also (and first) playable in 1997's Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi.
...but that game is pants. :-)
Great to hear people still appreciate these games. I only just played Dark Forces and Jedi Knight for the first time recently and was impressed at how enjoyable they were. Great video guys, really captured what I love about this series
Thanks dudes. I played Jedi Knight and Jedi Academy for the first time myself in making these videos. Dark Forces I had played before and I played the bejeezus out of JK2 when it launched. Yeah, definitely the best Star Wars game franchise. I like a lot of things about these games, things which I'm just not seeing in more modern titles.
I loved jedi knights dark forces 2, I can’t tell you how many hours I spent playing it online on a website called the zone lol. Fantastic video, these games were amazing!
"A more elegant weapon for a more civilized time" it's the first time i hear someone say that and it's beautiful. I'm still wondering how did that clone get that lightsaber and who's is it.
If Respawn would drop just a hint at Morgan Katarn and Kyle in whatever Star Wars game they are doing next I would be so happy that these heroes of my childhood are not forgotten and will live on in Star Wars lore.
great video! very timely. think i'm going to check out Outcast while it's on sale.
Thank you Kyle. Please do, I highly rate it. It's in my top 5 games of all time. Please come back and let me know what you think.
Love the video and youve gained yourself a new subscriber. One tiny correction though, mara jada was also playable in the force unleashed wii edition in the duel mode😊😊
Thanks so much for the sub! Glad you liked the video 😄
Legend has it that the voice actor from the 2 2000's era games did voice acting as the main charicter in overkill 3.
DF 2 was amazing and the sbx mod made multiplayer so fun. I remember the wait for Outcast was painful and it released when I was on a trip to Vegas. I made my parents take me to a store to buy it and I looked over the game manual for days until I was able to get home and play it. Miss playing the ladder endlessly with slow motion kills.
7:41 joke's on you, instead of Deus Ex I'm reinstalling Jedi Knight games
Haha, I'd prefer that anyway! :-D Who's laughing now?
I grew up with these games, I still come back to them every once in a while.
Same, it's nearly an annual playthrough for me.
Great video. I don’t even know how many times I’ve replayed these games, especially the last two. I could almost play them blindfolded but I still enjoy them, which is something I cannot say about the Fallen Order. Though I enjoyed playing it, I really cannot imagine replaying it any time soon.
KOTORs it is now! Haven’t played them yet and I love the first one so far.
Thanks man, I've played these more times than I can count.
Loved the video. Take this not as a correction but as a friendly fun fact, but Korriban first showed up in KOTOR mere months before jedi academy came out.
This needs more recognition.
Sipping my Corellian Ale with this awesome video Kyle was a saber wielder then he went to Jedi Valley or something like that turned into jedi he was force sensitive that game was awesome
Just finished Jedi academy. Thank you for the recommendation
That's awesome mate, you're welcome! Did you enjoy the game? What ending did you get?
I need to bring that back Star Wars Jedi Knight Kyle katarn.
Aw man good times. You're right though, Mysteries of The Sith still sticks with me to this day.
I don't mind admitting I was underwhelmed by Jedi Knight. Dark Forces has blocky, charming pixels; Jedi Knight 2 still looks good today. Jedi Knight falls unfortunately into a gap between the two despite the story being _okay_. MotS though, wow. Completely made up for the small amount of negativity I felt toward JK. The two games together are a brilliant duology.
I played dark forces and red faction back in the day, and nowadays my first play through of Jedi outcast is making me so nostalgic.
The first Red Faction was brilliant. I'm go glad you got a kick out of this video but I'm much happier that you're enjoying Jedi Outcast!
i had such a good time with this game playing somtimes the whole night then go work and when back home again jk2 a lot of nice ppl like NT rob and the whole NT clan as well as JU clan , i miss the clantrainings and clanwars and often just hanging arround on the server just talkin and having fun like try to build as many ppl as possible on anotherr and then try to walk alltogeher even played hide and seek ,i will never forget these days
I remember seeing that at Best Buy & saying Whoa! I don’t know what this is but I wanna try it! 😄
I love the dark forces jedi knight saga. I replay them once a year and i always have a blast. Im amazed that dark forces 1 still plays like a dream today
What a memories. It's funny, I played this game almost backwards. Jedi Knight II, then Jedi Academy, then all the previous ones. However this new Fallen orders brings hope. The lightsaber control and gameplay was the best I ever played since Jedi Academy. If they use Fallen Order to create another game, if this Fallen Order was a test that something planned for the next-gen, then we may be up to something promising.
You know, after this entire Disney/EA fiasco, between the horrible sequels and the Battlefronts, where everyone looks to the death of the franchise I hold much more positive than ever. Respawn just hit the spot, they just need to use Fallen Order combat system as a seed for something much bigger and ambitious. And now, with the whispers about something of a Star Wars universe "a la marvel", based in 500 years before Yavin with videogames and TV shows as main events, I have the feeling that we may be out of the dark and in hope for something as good as the original trilogy and the expanded universe, or even better. I have a good feeling about this.
Ricardo Fernandez Torres My thoughts exactly - though my pessimism and sadness caused by the new trilogy and EA weren’t really cured by the Fallen Order, it does bring hope.
I just recently got into and finished the KotOR series a few months back. After some scrolling on steam I found the Jedi Knight Collection. I was unsure at first but after watching your vid, I will definitely play them some time in the future!
That's great news. I really hope you enjoy the games, if you bought them because of my little video. Thank you so much, that's a great thing to say!
Jedi knight II Jedi outcast is also my favourite star wars game
A man of taste. I tip my blast visor to you, m'man.
@@MattyStoked thank you 😇
The light saber handling in the game was beyond great ...
All 5 are all available together on steam for $20-25. Definitely recommend getting them!
Twenty quid for a whole series of games is a steal. Still the best series of Star Wars games. Well worth it!
I just finished my first play through of Jedi Academy tonight, the first time I played it in over 13 years. Damn how I've missed that game.
Jedi Knight was THE Star Wars game of my childhood. I spent so much time playing multiplayer games through the MSN Gaming Zone, playing on both the regular levels and ones that fans created. It was an amazing time.
We've had a few discussions on here about Jedi Knight online. Right back at the beginning of online gaming. I remember playing it at my mate's house on his 28k. Was a struggle to connect and to stay connected but we were bleeding edge man!
This entire video was a nostalgic journey through my early years of realising I loved Star Wars EU just as much as the original trilogy films.
Jedi outcast is my childhood
Actually episode I is your childhood Anakin.
Worth noting that Mara Jade actually does make another appearance in Star Wars the Force Unleashed in the multiplayer vs mode.
you're right, now i wanna replay jedi outcast
There's so much fun to be had with Jedi Academy's command console on pc. There's nothing like unleasing several sith, jedi, and a few wampas in a deserted hangar and watching the chaos ensue.
It's also fun spawning a wampa and jedi mind tricking your way into driving the thing in just about any and every level. I remember finding it particularly enjoyable sending stormtroopers flying off into the cloudy abyss on Bespin.
I would imagine you could potentially pull down the console in the modern console ports, to get that 2000s flavour.
The first Korriban video game appearance was in kotor, though only by a few months.
Dark Forces 2 and Shadows of the Empire where the first 2 Star Wars games I owned and I have fond memories. I then bought X-Wing vs Tie Fighter after it and loved it as well.
Knights of the Old Republic 1 & 2 were also amazing and didn't pick up a new Star Wars game until Force Unleashed which was ok but didn't have nearly the same impact on me as the rest. I need to try Fallen Order as it seems to be well received.
back in the day you were recording it there still were active clans on jedi outcast :P. Such a strong game that survived to this day. Some people still play multiplayer tffa on JK2 even today :>
played this in the past weekend; excellent game that still holds up REALLY well today! Happy 4th of May!
My thoughts exactly! Thanks for commenting mate 😁👍
Really absolutely loved Academy. Just the fact you were zipping around doing little mini-adventures, trying to keep the peace and expanding your powers along the way.
Yeah the episodic format really worked for this game. And the fact that you could choose to do all the missions, or just the bare minimum was a really nice touch.
Tottaly agree with your review those games was my most precious memories of pc gamer in the 90's
Nostalgia! Very well made Video, though you could have mentioned the still active multiplayer of Jedi Outcast and Academy which was and is for some people a big selling point, especially since JKA didnt have that great of a story.
Thanks for the comment. When I said "this is what keeps people coming back", I did mean the multiplayer. In fairness each game in this video does have a full review on the channel (linked in the video). Hard to mention everything with
thatsanaccount Shouldn’t you be playing mb2 ;)
I loved those games, favorite being Outcast and Academy, and it still burns my soul today to think they didnt use this as the basis for Rogue One. even though there were characters in it, just like Kyle and Jan
It is sad that Rogue One didn't include Dark Forces references, but at least Rebels carries the spirit of the games on. Kanan is a blending of Rahm Kota from Force Unleashed and Kyle Katarn. Hera not only is voiced by Jan Ors' Jedi Outcast voice actress but she also wears Jan's flight suit and has a similar relationship with Kanan that Jan did with Kyle. Ezra wears one of the options that a male Jaden Korr could have in Jedi Academy, fitting as Jaden was Kyle's apprentice and Ezra was Kanan's. In one of the comics the Ghost crew even temporarily flies a HWK-290, the same model of ship that Kyle and Jan's Moldy Crow was. Where Rogue One dropped the ball on Dark Forces references, Rebels made it a point to honor that legacy.
Great VID!