What’s it really like to fly the FreedomFox (MSFS)? Is it worth the price?

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  • The Freedom Fox by Parallel 42 (MSFS) looks fantastic but is it worth the price? This is more than just a review! It includes checklist, startup, 2 types of takeoff, and a review of free and paid for alternatives. Chapters available below for quick reference as well as links to all products and checklists mentioned.
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    00:00 Intro
    01:24 Visuals
    05:13 Startup Checklist
    08:00 Takeoff Normal
    09:42 Systems
    10:19 Flight Dynamics
    14:32 Installation
    17:10 Savage Cub STOL Realism
    19:08 Savage Grravel - Monster Truck of the Skies
    20:28 Zenith CH701
    23:49 Xcub
    25:04 Quick Start & Short Takeoff
    25:58 Summary
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    📄 REAL CHECKLIST/POH: cfisher.com/kitfox/kitfox2poh.pdf
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Komentáře • 99

  • @TrentonPalmer
    @TrentonPalmer Před 2 lety +17

    Awesome review man!

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety +1

      High praise, thanks chief! This model, and now your channel, has inspired my retirement plans! Keep up the good work!

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      Whilst I think about it. Are there any routes/areas that you would recommend those with this model fly in the sim? Keen to use it more when the day job permits!

  • @Retset
    @Retset Před 2 lety +9

    It is so refreshing to see a balanced review that not only goes through the strengths of the aeroplane (including the reveal of a small tailwheel fetish) but also looks closely at it's value for money and position in the marketplace. I love the livery (iconic if you watch Trent's stuff) and packaging it with its own airport in the heart of the real thing's stomping ground is an excellent touch. For me, the GotGravel Cub is all I will ever need for STOL stuff in the sim but I'd not blame anybody for buying this aircraft. Kudos for the lack of manual reading as well as the lethally low spin entry heights! If this is the standard of any further reviews you do then I shall be watching.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      It's only my second review and it was perhaps a bit lengthy! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Amen for the slew button!! lol

  • @edwinkorteweg3612
    @edwinkorteweg3612 Před 2 lety +2

    Ahh you found the POH! Great ... thanks. I love this little bush-whacker. I used it to scout my next mountain hike. Set it down, pitched the tent and went for a stroll with the MSFS drone! Good fun.

  • @volkerjansen3901
    @volkerjansen3901 Před 2 lety +12

    Excellent review, really appreciate the comparison to other, similar planes! Trent Palmer's channel is probably my favorite in all of CZcams, so I simply had to get the FreedomFox. The sounds are disappointing, but as you mentioned the developer has that on the to-do list. Anyway, I'm having a blast flying in a beautiful virtual copy of the plane that I've seen so many times in Trent's videos. For me that's worth the price :)

  • @paulphibbs7162
    @paulphibbs7162 Před 2 lety +8

    Thanks for the review. To show the one wheel, you click on the left of two buttons on the extreme right of the panel. It appears on the right strut. Trent has an autopilot. The main difference is his uses the right display to show engine details.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for the info, much appreciated!

    • @Parallel42
      @Parallel42 Před 2 lety

      Someone poked around and found the goodies! Thanks for the info drop! //e

    • @antonioiozzi291
      @antonioiozzi291 Před 2 lety +1

      I confirm everithing you have written. 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      @@antonioiozzi291 owner or operator?

  • @luke_atthat
    @luke_atthat Před 2 lety +3

    Nice video! I like your quick summary of Take-off. I am very happy that the Trent Palmer's plane is now available on FS2020. There was a cute one out there at cheap price, but with bad low flight behavior. I was so frustrated. And finally a model well done has been created. Also the vew from the cockpit is so clear, perfect to discover spot and to check your landing area.

  • @dillank3240
    @dillank3240 Před rokem

    That was useful. I especially appreciate the comparisons you made. Excellent!

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      Thanks! This one was an oldie! I’d like to do a new one soon but have a long todo list! 😅

  • @pedrorego940
    @pedrorego940 Před 2 lety +1

    Top notch review, cheers!

  • @ricardograde5134
    @ricardograde5134 Před 2 lety +5

    It does have auto-pilot…
    Oh, and the zenith have an amazing wind sound when approaching stall. The flaps are fixed in the last update.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      I couldn’t hear it. And I’ll have to put it down to not having real life zenith experience I guess

  • @yams900
    @yams900 Před rokem +2

    Good work ! Just bought this aircraft :)

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      It’s an excellent aeroplane 👍🏻

  • @todd92371
    @todd92371 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm loving the Aviat Husky also.

  • @northcoaster76
    @northcoaster76 Před 2 lety +2

    Thorough review, nicely done. Trent's freedomfox does in fact have autopilot - there may even be a video of him installing it on his channel. I believe it's for the cross country flights he does. Just found your channel from this review so I'll keep watching for your content!

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety +1

      Yup, I do stand corrected! And thanks 👍🏻

  • @ravenn22
    @ravenn22 Před 2 lety +1

    for future content - would love to see POIs added for a bunch of the off-airport landing areas TP shows in the videos - both around Reno and into NorCal and Utah later

  • @bobbyrutz9402
    @bobbyrutz9402 Před rokem +1

    I've only had it a few days, but it's quickly becoming my favourite module in MSFS. I was on the Kodiak but this little guy is awesome.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      It’s beautifully simple!

    • @bobbyrutz9402
      @bobbyrutz9402 Před rokem +2

      @@cgaviator Exactly! And maybe I like the tent.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem +1

      @@bobbyrutz9402 😂 I love the tent idea. You should see P42’s camp out utility. Lots of utterly pointless fun! 😁

    • @bobbyrutz9402
      @bobbyrutz9402 Před rokem +1

      @@cgaviator Well I'm going to have to go and find that now! Have you done a video on it?

    • @bobbyrutz9402
      @bobbyrutz9402 Před rokem +1

      @@cgaviator I found it! Thank you.. but also you're gonna make me go broke. 😆

  • @neth77
    @neth77 Před rokem +1

    I very much enjoy this plane, it's the best bush flyer available in MSFS.

  • @LCTRgames
    @LCTRgames Před 2 lety +2

    Not seeing the chapters in the YT player, think it might be because you need to start the first chapter from 0:00. So if you just put "0:00 Intro" above your current list it should pick them up

  • @MojaveHigh
    @MojaveHigh Před 2 lety +2

    I picked up the Zenith when it was on sale and I actually like it, bizarre design and all. Takes a while to get used to, but it's fun. I am not an expert on flight physics so your review was helpful. It is by SimWorks Studios (developer of the Kodiak, as you know) and they are going to release a free float upgrade some time. As for the FreedomFox, as others have said, there are so many other great freeware STOLs (I LOVE the Savage Carbon) that I just can't plunk down US$35 for it. I'd rather save that for when the Hawk (hopefully) goes on sale. Haha

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety +1

      Good luck waiting for that discount! 😅 I keep getting told that the Zenith flaps are different so perhaps it’s my naivety about the design. Still, boggles my mind 😆

    • @MojaveHigh
      @MojaveHigh Před 2 lety

      @@cgaviator The Hawk looks truly amazing and I want it badly, but I'm cheap. Haven't spent more than US$35 on a plane (the Kodiak) and don't want to start now. But I'll probably break soon.

    • @MojaveHigh
      @MojaveHigh Před 2 lety

      @@cgaviator You do such a good job on your reviews and videos, I look forward to every one.

  • @TigerWalts
    @TigerWalts Před 2 lety +1

    I don't know if it's correct for this plane but the Rotax engine doesn't like being shut down at too low RPM.
    In the Eurofox that I once spent an hour in, the engine was shut down by:
    1. Idle throttle
    2. Turn off one of the 'mags'
    3. Press the Start button
    The engine will automatically increase RPM, hold it for a few seconds and then cut off the fuel.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      I saw a few variations on shutdown.

  • @ceegnz
    @ceegnz Před 2 lety +2

    The panel is pretty much exactly like Trent's, including the autopilot. If you're seeing a cockpit in his plane that doesn't look like this it's because he updated it, you need to go to a more recent video :) Worth noting that on any plane that has this sort of fuel 'gauge' they only read correctly when the plane is level, so they don't read correctly on the ground.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      Awesome info, thanks 👍🏻 And I stand corrected about the AP! The cockpit texture is a fault, not sure why it’s only the Artic Fox, it’s my favourite livery

    • @Parallel42
      @Parallel42 Před 2 lety +1

      Correct!! Thanks for the kind words. //e

    • @Parallel42
      @Parallel42 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cgaviator Community created liveries by Canuckshaw which are in the mod manager have been updated, and you should have properly lined up dashboard labels in today's update. I've passed on your kind words about his work! //e

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      @@Parallel42 thank you, very kind. And I'll be flying this onto some gravel bars in my next video. The handling is just lovely!

  • @weylandtyutani6330
    @weylandtyutani6330 Před 2 lety

    What do you think of the Husky or the C170B as payware alternatives to the FreedomFox?

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      I haven’t got either I’m afraid though I’ve owned the C170B in P3D and it was great! It’s not so much STOL though as I don’t think it has much power. I’ll look into the Husky

  • @Foxtrot_EW
    @Foxtrot_EW Před 2 lety +2

    Out for Xbox today on Marketplace!!!

  • @user_16309
    @user_16309 Před rokem

    Has the texture issue been fixed? Any other issues as of March, 2023? Considering buying this. Thanks.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      Can’t remember the texture issue, it’s a great plane. Think it’s just recently been reduced in price!

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      And it’s had new features like a car horn and super suspension! Definitely worth it!

  • @petersquires2100
    @petersquires2100 Před 2 lety

    Sorry if this question is really thick, but what do you mean in layman's terms by applying back pressure?

    • @mark_barrentine
      @mark_barrentine Před 2 lety +1

      I heard it to mean pulling back on the stick from the neutral position (up elevator). I've been flying the Freedom Fox (the sim, not the real one) and if you need to hit the brakes using a button off of the joystick you need to pull back on the stick to keep it from doing a nose. dive. With rudder pedals that include brakes this maybe less of an issue, but you will still want to do a full stick pull back for maximum braking.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      You know, I completely mis-read this question! Back pressure = aft stick

  • @forrestt610
    @forrestt610 Před 2 lety +1

    If your volume is up the zenith tells you your about to stall by the sound of wind over the leading edge. Quit loud in the open cockpit skin.

  • @ItzLazerLight
    @ItzLazerLight Před 5 měsíci

    I noticed that your camera movement in the cockpit is very smooth. I don't know if that's a mod I can get or something. But if you could tell me how I can make it like that, that would be nice.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 5 měsíci

      It’s just TrackIR, with the curves smoothed out a touch.

    • @ItzLazerLight
      @ItzLazerLight Před 5 měsíci

      @@cgaviator Hey, thanks! I'm gonna look into TrackIR so my setup is a little more immersive I guess you could say.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 5 měsíci

      @@ItzLazerLight worth every penny! The other option is Tobii Eye Tracker

    • @ItzLazerLight
      @ItzLazerLight Před 5 měsíci

      @@cgaviator Alright thanks, I'll investigate that one too. And trackir or the eye tracker will be used to enhance my setup without you know, getting a VR headset! As well as training to get my licence this year! Wish me luck haha.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 5 měsíci

      @@ItzLazerLight good luck! 😂

  • @pricesteve8948
    @pricesteve8948 Před 2 lety +1

    'The ground is closer than you think'. Almost lost my lunch the second time you stalled it....

  • @VirtualRealityHub
    @VirtualRealityHub Před rokem +2

    kitfox cost too much while we have the free ones there that make a great job.
    30$ for opening doors, germin and a tent is too high. 15$ max i would pay for it

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem +1

      You can get it cheaper if you don’t want the extras. But having used it for a while, there’s no going back for me

  • @danlance
    @danlance Před rokem

    One point to note, all the free alternatives are not available on Xbox (well other than the Xcub which... is ok... Until you fly the FF, and then it just feels Meh...)
    Such a fun aircraft to fly - really enjoying exploring NZ in WU12 - 4,000' / minute ascent required... No problemo....

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      Good point, I forget about Xbox limitations

  • @ragzzytv
    @ragzzytv Před rokem +1

    that random button is A/P disconnect. at least that's what the tooltips says.

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      I should use tooltips more to begin with! 😅

  • @maximo2414able
    @maximo2414able Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Sir!
    For me i don't find any stol payware aircraft good apart from the zlin savage ultra and the zenith, well also the super cub, the rest for me all the others have a power ratio too much for a real aircraft, it's insane being climbing at 2500ft/min with these hahaha lol everything is so easy,
    I forget to tell the rans s6 is a good simulated machine also!
    Regards!

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 4 měsíci

      I’m not a fan of the Zenith. I guess a lot comes down to personal preference 👍🏻

  • @spatialpro
    @spatialpro Před 2 lety +1

    This is a crowded corner of the "market" (by which I mean payware and freeware) and IMO doesn't offer sufficient USPs to warrant a purchase at the current asking price. Just my 2p/2c 🤷‍♂️

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety

      Totally agree though it has some excellent potential

    • @harpoon_bakery162
      @harpoon_bakery162 Před rokem

      as long as there are enhancements every month, i think it would be good.

  • @SixFox
    @SixFox Před 2 lety +2

    Too many high quality free alternatives to warrant a purchase from me.

  • @russellharris5072
    @russellharris5072 Před 2 lety +1

    I've now seen at least three reviews on this aircraft,in each of these I can't help but be bothered by the glass panels inside and the wig wag lights on the outside.I'm reasonably sure the CAA in the uk would not approve of the wig wag lights unless accompanied by the standard red/green tip lights.................................

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety +3

      I love the wig wags! 😂 A lot more things are legal in the US. You should see their cars!

    • @russellharris5072
      @russellharris5072 Před 2 lety

      @@cgaviator I agree,you can legally fly in the US in a class of aircraft not exceeding a certain weight and engine limit with NO official documentation.In the UK,any aircraft with three wheels requires a full PPL and even paramotors are encouraged to meet certain standards...........................

    • @Parallel42
      @Parallel42 Před 2 lety +3

      The aircraft is built to #FreedomFox spec. However standard landing lights ARE included which you are free to use in the UK. Wig-Wags are an on/off switch. Standard NAVs are also right on the dash.

    • @russellharris5072
      @russellharris5072 Před 2 lety

      @@Parallel42 I unfortunately bought the Zenith from Microsoft which will never stop taxiing without intermittent braking and the latest update provides two glass panels that don't work whether you use the master avionic switch or ctrl+e..................DOH!!

  • @jjsmallpiece9234
    @jjsmallpiece9234 Před 2 lety +1

    Not for me, I find light aircraft to be boring

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před 2 lety +6

      Crazy talk! lol! I only like the small aircraft when I'm trying to squeeze them into much smaller strips. That and when I want to enjoy the view!

  • @chocks9350
    @chocks9350 Před rokem

    Normaly you notis a stall when plane starts to shakes all over and then stalls... Guess not modeled...

    • @cgaviator
      @cgaviator  Před rokem

      It’s been updated alot since this. But I don’t think this is simulated. Some aircraft have very unique stall characteristics. Maybe this one likes to be smoooth 👍🏻