This does show how much we have improved since hooliganism. Nowadays, even the slightest incident will be covered by the medias whereas before, people would die after matches and it would not even be big news
Adam Killen lies. It did have reinforced glass, and it was utterly destroyed by the 2-3 hundred missiles they were thrown at it, including bottles, bricks and flares. It was written off and the club was forced to source another coach to take the players back. I'd love to see your car take that kind of damage with your family in it and see what you had to say then. Football hooliganism at it's worst, if that'd been Liverpool fans in Europe they'd have been banned from the next game and fined at the very least. Disgusting behaviour but it was all swept under the carpet
@@StoutProper it was in Europe, it was the champions league game at Anfield, they sourced another coach cause the windscreen was cracked, I'm not defending the actions of people who threw bottles and cans but I'm going to call you out for exaggeration and comparing drunk idiots throwing their bottles at a coach with tragedies where people were seriously injured or killed
Adam Killen it was in a champions league game but it wasn't on the European continent. You know exactly what I meant, no need to be deliberately obtuse. The coach was completely written off with hundreds of missiles and absolutely nothing was done and it was barely reported. I'd like to see your reaction if that was your car and your family were on it. Disgusting behaviour by animals.
Adam Killen somebody could have easily been seriously injured or killed. When Connor MacGregor did far less to a coach full of cage fighters he ended up in court. According to you it's ok to launch bottles and bricks and flares at people if you're drunk, it's just good natured fun, if anyone gets hurt it's only an accident. Bullshit. It's football hooliganism at it's worst, if they were doing that at a police vehicle it would be called a riot by the media.
The Premier League, destroyed 104 years of football history in 1992,and then shit their pants when the Super League tried doing exactly the same thing to them, only 29 years later....
I love the irony that nearly exactly 30 years later, the Super League is doing to the Premier League as the Premier League did to the Football League and they will even use the name that the PL didn’t want to use.
Lol this is such a great case study into what working class people believe about capitalism. We really need to have a fake version of fairness so we can believe it’s possible to “work your way up from nothing” or somn lolol I bet there are 5-6 teams that have never been relegated from the premier league, and every other league In Europe has permanent teams. Lol the rich clubs already dominate everything, it’s just that we can maybe feel good about ourselves by saying “well it’s all fair cause grimsby town and scunthorpe has just as much a chance as Chelsea”
@@StoutProper people used to die amidst hooliganism and no one would bat an eye. It wasn't the most popular league like today, rather had an uncouth reputation.
Nitish Saxena I beg to differ. People most certainly did bat an eyelid. Just to name two example, English clubs were banned from Europe for 5, or was it more, years, and all seater stadiums were introduced, both as a result. Although as English clubs had won 6 of the last European cups at the time of the European ban, and 8 out of the past 10, it could be argued that European football powers had another agenda for banning English clubs. A travel ban on known hooligans, or an away fan ban, both of which are enacted by Europe whenever they want today, could have had the save effect without banning the clubs. The league was still the best league in the world and the most popular worldwide amongst football fans. The only difference today is that because of the corporate takeover, huge money and sponsorships, the marketing men have aimed it at the middle and upper classes.
Liofa not just for most clubs but for most fans, even fans of the top clubs. Most tickets are prohibitively expensive to go regularly, and travelling away isn't much fun late sunday afternoon or Monday night when you're going from Southampton to Newcastle, and Friday nights aren't much better.
It's IRONIC how the Premier League did the exact same thing as the European Super League JUST TRIED. Even The New UCL format is now the same as the Super League and they won't talk about it because now their pockets aren't under threat!
@@aominedaiki696 well theyre very similar 2 clubs get in on UEFA "points system" which is basically translated to "Elitism" so arsenal can get there over leicester and its bs
Not really, there are many crucial differences in format, rules and circumstances. One example is that the PL is fair and not as elitist as the proposed ESL. Any club is eligible for relegation in the PL and each club has one vote. The ESL on the other hand was just an attempt by the richest clubs to change fair rules because their teams are at risk of no longer being the best as teams like Leicester may now be better.
@@jackwilliamsmith8734 love how they didn't reply see these people say the same thing about the prem being hypocritical even tho its more fair then the super league
It's been a huge commercial success, but is slowly but surely destroying what really makes English football special. No where else in the world do you have so many clubs so passionately supported regardless of what league they are in. The rich clubs at the top of the Premier League are continually degrading that until the clubs lower down the pyramid exist for no other reason but to serve their needs. The sooner they fly off to a super league and free the rest of English football from their influence the better. We won't have as much money, but at least we will have our soul.
Thank you for the enlightenment. Now I understand better why the lower leagues and the championship seem not to fit with the premier league. I always understood that the premier League is run by the top six or any newly wealthy clubs, like Man City. It’s getting harder and harder for the money ballers to have a chance when the game is being oiled down.
Probably the worst decision is football history. It's made some clubs almost invincible and destroyed the financial stability of 80% of the teams in England and Wales. The deal with Sky Sports has virtually killed off watching most local clubs football on free local stations. Look to the US, Canada and Australia and local sports are widely available for free on TV.
Yank here, historically it was VERY easy to find nba, mlb and some popular college on regional free to air TV. Biggest matches were national or in broad swaths of the country. Now, aside from the NFL, a majority of games are on cable/pay TV, especially from late 90s onwards. Still distinct thing about especially mlb and nfl, they've been whole hog on maximizing tv revenue since the 50s and 60s whilst UK and Europe only since 80s and 90s. Quantum leap in approach in a much shorter time for you guys.
Good overview, but let me shorten it for you: The Premier League was created for one, and one reason only: MONEY. Club sponsorships/advertising/TV rights have made English football clubs in the Premier League VERY wealthy...not so much for the Championship and lower leagues. Those may have been the "Dark Ages" of Football (when England actually won a World Cup), but ticket prices were reasonable/affordable for the common person, and the quality of play in the First Division was just as good...and the teams were populated by English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh players, not like the global cesspools they are now. The hooliganism was bad...but all the Premier League did to change that was price most (but not all) hooligans out.
And now they fear a break away champions league that would take their money. England have bad history with colonial declaring indepence. USA colony want to be free, now Brexit.
A great video that didn’t mention BSkyB once. That’s always the fallback to such videos. Yes, it probably gave the premier league its fuel for continued power, but this video focuses on the origins of why it happened in the first place. Well done TiFo. I wonder if BSB never existed. Would Channel 4 (don’t laugh) try to put a bid in? Premier league and Sky TV relationship is symbiotic to their mutual benefits. And I’m not a fan of Sky BTW
At 2:40 you said that shirt sponsorship wasn't allowed until the early 1980s. In fact Liverpool FC were the first team to have it in 1979. Hitachi being the sponsors.
@@louiswoodward8095 The video and my comment were only talking about top-flight clubs, so the comment about Kettering, which no one disputes, is irrelevant to this discussion. Additionally, 'going on about' something means repeating something again and again. I only mentioned Liverpool's role once, so I can't be described as 'going on about Liverpool.'
@@garyskyner5855 Everyone, in some way or another in relation to football, feels obligated to mention Liverpool so it therefore feels as if people keep going on about them. There is no need.
Very interesting video. There was something raw and powerful about football before the premier league which has never been re-captured. Sky seem to think football was invented in 1992.
2011 isn't even the correct date for the takeover.....If you're gonna shit banter, atleast try and get the simple shit banter like the dates right. You're another "soccer" fan that thinks football was invented in 1992.
@@kritav1111No he didn't and you're just shit talking. He meant...Yeah, on your bike. If it's so open to interpretation, how the fuck are you right? Idiot. Peddle your shit elsewhere.
you guys do a great football podcast, way better than most. you tackled some hard to talk about subjects in this video! i did an economic paper on the premier league formation (i was rubbish at economics, but loved football). even got input from the legend (name drop) john gregory on it (im a wycombe fan - all explained). from an economics point of view, the premier league saw success for a few clubs, but predicted the death of 70%. which is coming true, no? sadly the death of uk football, in my eyes. keep up the great content, chaps - great work!
Karthik Garimella do you see high fences now? No. Do they have standing? Yes. Can you drink beer in the stadium while watching the game? Yes. High fences were part of the problem at Hillsborough.
English Football in 90s was still was awful to watch. Kick and rush ... Hoofing. Only Man Utd grasped this. And won everything. Then Arsenal. Got onto this change . The rest took until the 2000. Our coaching is still awful . See - Englands recent u21s Adie boothroyd - not 1 knows who he got this Post.
Creation of the Premier League was the worst thing that ever happened in English football (aside from disasters like Hillsborough). The premier league is the “greed is good” league
So eager to watch this video. Thank you for this most awaited information (for me at least). This is the most underrated CZcams channel. Super work, keep it up
Super league was on similar grounds... uefa and fifa irked because they were not getting slice of the pie... and t-12 teams were threatened because they may not see the light of super league because of lack of promotion system. The new super league may have materialized had it not added clause for no relegation for founding members. The "big" teams are no longer playing for madrid, barcelona, turin, north london, fulham, milan or manchester... it is global. They are represented by global stars. The local rivalries are meaningless IMO. If we want to support a local team, then there are many out there who would gladly take in those supporters. These big teams are a business and not a football club. The money poured in has been insane. The same fans expects Ronaldo and would love to fork out 100M in transfer or 500k weekly wages but would not like to have increased ticket prices, expensive merchandise or them competing in locked leagues. The current one was just a media propaganda. The same fans and clubs would not accept's new format of Champions league... which is just a boiled down version of super league. ps: As a football supporter I see why people hated super league, but I see their (football clubs) reasoning behind it as it is more of a business to them than football. It was the similar reason EPL was created.
I ain’t going to lie, the English premier league saved English football, Heysal ruined English football at the time, we had no coefficient in uefa and where at the bottom after the ban, all the best players where gone and playing in Europe (meaning England was left with ok players who weren’t going to get hired by European teams). So premier league honestly fixed football in England, like hooliganism is practically non existent on the top (manly a problem on bottom league).
The same day as the Bradford Fire, there was a Riot at St.Andrews between Birmingham and Leeds on scale hardly ever seen in Britain, literally 1000’s fighting on the pitch.
“Enhance the prospects of success for the England team.” And since then we’ve seen Euro 96 and World Cup 2018 as a success. We’ve seen tournament after tournament of failure and embarrassment. Seems that the break away committee were playing up to Italia 90 and the run to the Semi Final.
I won't say World Cup 2018 was a roaring success but I enjoyed that summer. Considering the embarrassments we've witnessed in tournaments, Russia 2018 was a breath of fresh air
And now a new problem has emerged. In the past few years, clubs from lower divisions don’t really last that long in the premier league because of the wealth gap between the clubs at the top and everyone else. And even if they do survive, there’s almost zero chance they break in to the top of the table
Or should be called when sky killed football. Certainly football that I watched and went to every week. I started watching United in 1985 and from that time up until the creation of the premier league I saw probably one incident of trouble at a game and that was it.
ItsSuffian English football wasn't invented with the premier league. You still had an English top division that was the best in Europe and the most popular in the world, up until the European ban.
Thank you David Dein for getting the dinosaurs out of the game of football. Thank you America for showing the world the blueprint of how sports should be run.
The original "super" league. Its even in the name. "premier". They left out lesser teams which is why there are more spots in the EFL than in the "premier" league.
TIFO! would be great if you done a video on the career and life of John Toshack! i'll keep reminding you until you do :) a unique and colorful career its very interesting so come on and get it sorted!!
You can make it simple by saying that shit got done. Yes we all can sit here and talk about some possible negatives of the PL, but I'd say it has done more good than bad. Here, in Greece we are in the same situation as they were in the late 1980s but things ain't getting better anytime soon.
Would be great if even just 2%-5% of Premier League revenues is filtered into League 1 and 2 as these teams don't have the luxury of parachute payments which the majority of Championship teams have.
Christian Hernandez it was working class and as started in the video, it was moved to a more middle class form of entertainment to help curb hooliganism. As for Hillsborough literally today match commander David Duckenfield is now to face retrial on a charge of gross negligence manslaughter. And finally on the game being worse than the past this is also true... Football used to be competitive not like today where one players transfer in the premier league could fund a league 2 team’s running costs for 20+ years
Football is for anyone who wants to join, and a persons game, not a men's game. Football is also a million times better than what it was, and its interactive, and globalized. No one knows who won the British Cup in 1973 or whatever
Wait so the premier league IS the super league???? And you’re telling me football is hyper capitalistic and that Uber rich teams dominate the competitions? And that the poorest teams will absolutely never ever reach the pinnacle of the premier league???? Wooooowwwww
And it really advanced the prospects of the England team. So much so that we didn’t even qualify for the 94 World Cup !!! Mind you what did you expect from the FA ??
If there's something to take away from the four sports here in America, it's that we market them to death. If they implemented a salary cap and had revenue sharing, the Premier League would be in an even better position.
It's interesting to see how the FA wanted to move football away from the working class who built it up and how even today working class people can scarcely afford the TV package prices let alone the ticket prices
I watching after getting news about the new Super League and I would like to ask anyones opinion wether you think the formation of the premier league is similar to whats happening now? Im totally against the super league as for now but would really like to hear other peoples view on how this will effect the future of footbal.
Its all the same its just a far more financially beneficial version for the big boys you could and justifiably say that without the formation of the Premier League we never see this super league. Football died in 92 not now thats reactionary and the broadcasting monopolies saying otherwise are only doing it to protect the big money they've already put on the table. The football league was far more equitable the divide between rich and poor wasn't this vast
Funny how relevant this has become again
lmao... true
Ppl will eventually accept Super league also
Hahahahahhhha .......its hilarious .......so all the outrage from passionate pundits is a few decades late ......😂😂😂
When he said it was to be called the Premier League instead of the Super League I had to laugh.
Well that aged badly and fast.
I'd love to see Tifo-style recaps of each Premier League season.
Definitely idea of the year!
MagicianCamille that would be amazing
+27 videos of each Premier League season lol, have fun waiting a month or two for the next installments (exaggeration intended).
Have a look at the audiobooks of "The Mixer" similar to what you're looking for, great read
Please do this Tifo
And suddenly this video becomes relevant again. Tifo did it again.
yuuuuuuuup
and again once more.
@@countdooku1363 how so?
@@merr5593 Man-C
Lies again? Dark Legion Domestic League
Lol they rejected the idea of calling it the super league back then because it sounded threatening. People don't learn their lessons, do they?
This does show how much we have improved since hooliganism. Nowadays, even the slightest incident will be covered by the medias whereas before, people would die after matches and it would not even be big news
@@StoutProper it wasn't written off, a couple of bottles hit the windows which are reinforced the coach was fine
Adam Killen lies. It did have reinforced glass, and it was utterly destroyed by the 2-3 hundred missiles they were thrown at it, including bottles, bricks and flares. It was written off and the club was forced to source another coach to take the players back. I'd love to see your car take that kind of damage with your family in it and see what you had to say then. Football hooliganism at it's worst, if that'd been Liverpool fans in Europe they'd have been banned from the next game and fined at the very least. Disgusting behaviour but it was all swept under the carpet
@@StoutProper it was in Europe, it was the champions league game at Anfield, they sourced another coach cause the windscreen was cracked, I'm not defending the actions of people who threw bottles and cans but I'm going to call you out for exaggeration and comparing drunk idiots throwing their bottles at a coach with tragedies where people were seriously injured or killed
Adam Killen it was in a champions league game but it wasn't on the European continent. You know exactly what I meant, no need to be deliberately obtuse. The coach was completely written off with hundreds of missiles and absolutely nothing was done and it was barely reported. I'd like to see your reaction if that was your car and your family were on it. Disgusting behaviour by animals.
Adam Killen somebody could have easily been seriously injured or killed. When Connor MacGregor did far less to a coach full of cage fighters he ended up in court. According to you it's ok to launch bottles and bricks and flares at people if you're drunk, it's just good natured fun, if anyone gets hurt it's only an accident. Bullshit. It's football hooliganism at it's worst, if they were doing that at a police vehicle it would be called a riot by the media.
The Premier League, destroyed 104 years of football history in 1992,and then shit their pants when the Super League tried doing exactly the same thing to them, only 29 years later....
The ESL is a closed league
5:42 this detail: "the Premier League, meaning to sound less threatening than the orginally branded Superleague .."
I love the irony that nearly exactly 30 years later, the Super League is doing to the Premier League as the Premier League did to the Football League and they will even use the name that the PL didn’t want to use.
Exactly what I’ve been shouting
And also the same clubs from the England , bar a few new additions and an absentee.
nah it's not the exact same thing - the Super League wouldn't have had relegation, but the Premier League does have
Premier League still has promotion/relegation. It's not like the European Super League where the founding clubs are immune from relegation
Lol this is such a great case study into what working class people believe about capitalism. We really need to have a fake version of fairness so we can believe it’s possible to “work your way up from nothing” or somn lolol I bet there are 5-6 teams that have never been relegated from the premier league, and every other league In Europe has permanent teams. Lol the rich clubs already dominate everything, it’s just that we can maybe feel good about ourselves by saying “well it’s all fair cause grimsby town and scunthorpe has just as much a chance as Chelsea”
Insane how relatively recent the dark ages of English football were
Why were they dark?
@@StoutProper people used to die amidst hooliganism and no one would bat an eye. It wasn't the most popular league like today, rather had an uncouth reputation.
Yamlak Belete --- For most clubs this is the dark ages --- financially. The top clubs get 90% of the cash in football.
Nitish Saxena I beg to differ. People most certainly did bat an eyelid. Just to name two example, English clubs were banned from Europe for 5, or was it more, years, and all seater stadiums were introduced, both as a result. Although as English clubs had won 6 of the last European cups at the time of the European ban, and 8 out of the past 10, it could be argued that European football powers had another agenda for banning English clubs. A travel ban on known hooligans, or an away fan ban, both of which are enacted by Europe whenever they want today, could have had the save effect without banning the clubs. The league was still the best league in the world and the most popular worldwide amongst football fans. The only difference today is that because of the corporate takeover, huge money and sponsorships, the marketing men have aimed it at the middle and upper classes.
Liofa not just for most clubs but for most fans, even fans of the top clubs. Most tickets are prohibitively expensive to go regularly, and travelling away isn't much fun late sunday afternoon or Monday night when you're going from Southampton to Newcastle, and Friday nights aren't much better.
It's IRONIC how the Premier League did the exact same thing as the European Super League JUST TRIED. Even The New UCL format is now the same as the Super League and they won't talk about it because now their pockets aren't under threat!
It’s not the same, what are you on about?
@@aominedaiki696 well theyre very similar 2 clubs get in on UEFA "points system" which is basically translated to "Elitism" so arsenal can get there over leicester and its bs
Not really, there are many crucial differences in format, rules and circumstances. One example is that the PL is fair and not as elitist as the proposed ESL. Any club is eligible for relegation in the PL and each club has one vote. The ESL on the other hand was just an attempt by the richest clubs to change fair rules because their teams are at risk of no longer being the best as teams like Leicester may now be better.
@@jackwilliamsmith8734 love how they didn't reply see these people say the same thing about the prem being hypocritical even tho its more fair then the super league
@@clipped6963 Two clubs get in on points system out of 36. At least 34 other clubs get in on merit. I am not in favour of it but you're overreacting
And now they don’t want teams to do the same, such hypocrisy
I used to scoff at people saying "Football died in 1992" but now I completely understand their feelings after today
It's been a huge commercial success, but is slowly but surely destroying what really makes English football special. No where else in the world do you have so many clubs so passionately supported regardless of what league they are in. The rich clubs at the top of the Premier League are continually degrading that until the clubs lower down the pyramid exist for no other reason but to serve their needs. The sooner they fly off to a super league and free the rest of English football from their influence the better. We won't have as much money, but at least we will have our soul.
Thank you for the enlightenment.
Now I understand better why the lower leagues and the championship seem not to fit with the premier league.
I always understood that the premier League is run by the top six or any newly wealthy clubs, like Man City.
It’s getting harder and harder for the money ballers to have a chance when the game is being oiled down.
Probably the worst decision is football history. It's made some clubs almost invincible and destroyed the financial stability of 80% of the teams in England and Wales. The deal with Sky Sports has virtually killed off watching most local clubs football on free local stations. Look to the US, Canada and Australia and local sports are widely available for free on TV.
Really how do u know its free to watch in those countries
Yank here, historically it was VERY easy to find nba, mlb and some popular college on regional free to air TV. Biggest matches were national or in broad swaths of the country.
Now, aside from the NFL, a majority of games are on cable/pay TV, especially from late 90s onwards.
Still distinct thing about especially mlb and nfl, they've been whole hog on maximizing tv revenue since the 50s and 60s whilst UK and Europe only since 80s and 90s.
Quantum leap in approach in a much shorter time for you guys.
As a north American I dig these little history lessons from my favorite sports league. 👍
I was actually looking into videos about the birth of the premier league and this one really tops it.
I met David Dein a few weeks ago. He is also the one who brought the invisible spray for free kicks to English and European football
Good overview, but let me shorten it for you: The Premier League was created for one, and one reason only: MONEY. Club sponsorships/advertising/TV rights have made English football clubs in the Premier League VERY wealthy...not so much for the Championship and lower leagues. Those may have been the "Dark Ages" of Football (when England actually won a World Cup), but ticket prices were reasonable/affordable for the common person, and the quality of play in the First Division was just as good...and the teams were populated by English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh players, not like the global cesspools they are now. The hooliganism was bad...but all the Premier League did to change that was price most (but not all) hooligans out.
And now they fear a break away champions league that would take their money. England have bad history with colonial declaring indepence. USA colony want to be free, now Brexit.
A great video that didn’t mention BSkyB once. That’s always the fallback to such videos. Yes, it probably gave the premier league its fuel for continued power, but this video focuses on the origins of why it happened in the first place. Well done TiFo. I wonder if BSB never existed. Would Channel 4 (don’t laugh) try to put a bid in?
Premier league and Sky TV relationship is symbiotic to their mutual benefits.
And I’m not a fan of Sky BTW
Lol you re-uploaded but that error at 5:19 is still there (intervention/invitation).
and "seceded" instead of "ceded" lol
good.. you have ears too.. i thought it was just me!!
@@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE And Fynn instead of Flynn.
Interesting how Liverpool's Neil White's approach to create the Premier League resulted in them never winning the league
Hahahahaha.
You mean Noel White!
At 2:40 you said that shirt sponsorship wasn't allowed until the early 1980s. In fact Liverpool FC were the first team to have it in 1979. Hitachi being the sponsors.
Gary Skyner they might have been the first major club to do it but Kettering pioneered it and others followed suit so stop going on about Liverpool.
@@louiswoodward8095 The video and my comment were only talking about top-flight clubs, so the comment about Kettering, which no one disputes, is irrelevant to this discussion. Additionally, 'going on about' something means repeating something again and again. I only mentioned Liverpool's role once, so I can't be described as 'going on about Liverpool.'
@@garyskyner5855 Everyone, in some way or another in relation to football, feels obligated to mention Liverpool so it therefore feels as if people keep going on about them. There is no need.
Perfect timing to show on recommended. ESL just got suspended today...for now
Who is here after the Super League announcement?
Stop fishing for likes
Nah I'm here before the announcement 🤦♂️
@@chickazama I'm Schrodinger's youtuber -- here both before AND after the announcement
You are
I'm here before the announcement.
Very interesting video. There was something raw and powerful about football before the premier league which has never been re-captured. Sky seem to think football was invented in 1992.
No mention of Ibrox disaster which led to Rangers becoming the 1st all seater stadium in country. Rangers showing the way.
It is genuinely frightening how similar all of this is to the Super League! Heck even the fucking name which was proposed
Man City fans will be confused... they thought football was invented in 2011
I seem to remember a team I followed in the early 70s.... and then there was Bert Trautmann... City does have a history you know.
2011 isn't even the correct date for the takeover.....If you're gonna shit banter, atleast try and get the simple shit banter like the dates right. You're another "soccer" fan that thinks football was invented in 1992.
@@Section20Ul He meant when City starting winning stuff, if you insult someone, atleast read the whole sentence
@@kritav1111No he didn't and you're just shit talking. He meant...Yeah, on your bike. If it's so open to interpretation, how the fuck are you right? Idiot. Peddle your shit elsewhere.
Right?
you guys do a great football podcast, way better than most. you tackled some hard to talk about subjects in this video! i did an economic paper on the premier league formation (i was rubbish at economics, but loved football). even got input from the legend (name drop) john gregory on it (im a wycombe fan - all explained). from an economics point of view, the premier league saw success for a few clubs, but predicted the death of 70%. which is coming true, no? sadly the death of uk football, in my eyes. keep up the great content, chaps - great work!
Thank you from across the pond for the history lesson. Have you given thoughts to how this topic will proceed? PL recap in 5 year increments maybe?
Good recap considering what's after occurring today..
The Rick Parry illustration really is the stereotype of a 90s Scouser.
I would love to see a video about how the Bundesliga tackled the same problems
svevo ditto
They put high fences
Karthik Garimella do you see high fences now? No. Do they have standing? Yes. Can you drink beer in the stadium while watching the game? Yes. High fences were part of the problem at Hillsborough.
@@StoutProper see allianz arena their vocal fans have a fence, why?
Karthik Garimella It's not a fence, it's a net and it comes down and is hinged to open.
Who else got this recommended after the ESL news... :D
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English Football in 90s was still was awful to watch.
Kick and rush ...
Hoofing.
Only Man Utd grasped this. And won everything.
Then Arsenal. Got onto this change .
The rest took until the 2000.
Our coaching is still awful .
See - Englands recent u21s
Adie boothroyd - not 1 knows who he got this Post.
Dont Ask did you not watch Newcastle in the 90's it was attack attack attack..tikki takka
@@darthpenguin3320 correct. Sorry . They were good
Great content lads, you lot have me interested in things I never thought I would be
Why was there the FA and the Football League before 1992? What were each roles and responsibilities?
HA Love how this popped in my recommended after the Super League was announced.
Creation of the Premier League was the worst thing that ever happened in English football (aside from disasters like Hillsborough). The premier league is the “greed is good” league
Greed IS good.
3:00 mins onwards is the super league lol
The future is just a repeat of the past
they wanted the game to be more middle class, well they've succeeded there, the game has gone from one extreme to another
So eager to watch this video. Thank you for this most awaited information (for me at least). This is the most underrated CZcams channel. Super work, keep it up
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Super league was on similar grounds... uefa and fifa irked because they were not getting slice of the pie... and t-12 teams were threatened because they may not see the light of super league because of lack of promotion system. The new super league may have materialized had it not added clause for no relegation for founding members.
The "big" teams are no longer playing for madrid, barcelona, turin, north london, fulham, milan or manchester... it is global. They are represented by global stars. The local rivalries are meaningless IMO. If we want to support a local team, then there are many out there who would gladly take in those supporters. These big teams are a business and not a football club. The money poured in has been insane. The same fans expects Ronaldo and would love to fork out 100M in transfer or 500k weekly wages but would not like to have increased ticket prices, expensive merchandise or them competing in locked leagues. The current one was just a media propaganda. The same fans and clubs would not accept's new format of Champions league... which is just a boiled down version of super league.
ps: As a football supporter I see why people hated super league, but I see their (football clubs) reasoning behind it as it is more of a business to them than football. It was the similar reason EPL was created.
Why did you take this video down yesterday?
They made a bad mistake and corrected it.
There was an error in the voice over and text that we needed to fix.
They mistakenly said the Hillsborough Disaster was during a match between Liverpool and Sheffield United.
They proved the point that Manchester United is a shit club, but they got death threats. Safety is #1. Also, United is a trash football club.
@@indermann9523 Jesus Christ, who hurt you mate
Finally someone mentions Hysel, Liverpool & EPL dont wanna hear about that shit.
I ain’t going to lie, the English premier league saved English football, Heysal ruined English football at the time, we had no coefficient in uefa and where at the bottom after the ban, all the best players where gone and playing in Europe (meaning England was left with ok players who weren’t going to get hired by European teams).
So premier league honestly fixed football in England, like hooliganism is practically non existent on the top (manly a problem on bottom league).
Ur watching this after the news of the European super league
The same day as the Bradford Fire, there was a Riot at St.Andrews between Birmingham and Leeds on scale hardly ever seen in Britain, literally 1000’s fighting on the pitch.
Certainly was. A young 15 year old Leeds fan was killed due to a wall collapsing after the game. One of the darkest days for English football.
“Enhance the prospects of success for the England team.”
And since then we’ve seen Euro 96 and World Cup 2018 as a success.
We’ve seen tournament after tournament of failure and embarrassment. Seems that the break away committee were playing up to Italia 90 and the run to the Semi Final.
I won't say World Cup 2018 was a roaring success but I enjoyed that summer. Considering the embarrassments we've witnessed in tournaments, Russia 2018 was a breath of fresh air
And now a new problem has emerged. In the past few years, clubs from lower divisions don’t really last that long in the premier league because of the wealth gap between the clubs at the top and everyone else. And even if they do survive, there’s almost zero chance they break in to the top of the table
Waiting for your take on the European Super League
Its all coming full circle
Nice video, the Premier League’s foundation would have been much different had ITV won the first set of broadcast rights over Sky.
This video has so much more relevance now
The fact that they got Saatchi and Saatchi to do the business assessment showed they were hopeless in deciding the best partners to make it happen.
It’s time to make a similar video on European super league
Or should be called when sky killed football. Certainly football that I watched and went to every week. I started watching United in 1985 and from that time up until the creation of the premier league I saw probably one incident of trouble at a game and that was it.
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if the EPL weren't invented, then i don't know how my life would be like so i'm very grateful that it is progressing especially right now 🙌
ItsSuffian English football wasn't invented with the premier league. You still had an English top division that was the best in Europe and the most popular in the world, up until the European ban.
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Too fast in your narration I guess, even though you are talking of a history that is complex in itself
Thank you for this video, very informative.
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5:29 are you sure thats Rick Parry? Looks more like Ron Jeremy 😂
Thank you David Dein for getting the dinosaurs out of the game of football. Thank you America for showing the world the blueprint of how sports should be run.
And that’s how the greatest & the most competitive League was born.
Ive come here to find any likeness with this at the new super league
The original "super" league. Its even in the name. "premier". They left out lesser teams which is why there are more spots in the EFL than in the "premier" league.
The use of high re-sale value and how that affects transfers? And how the new transfer market is seeing older players moving on frees.
Yeah, you should be doing a premiership years-esque series, recapping every season. wud b sik lads.
TIFO! would be great if you done a video on the career and life of John Toshack! i'll keep reminding you until you do :) a unique and colorful career its very interesting so come on and get it sorted!!
the pendulum has swung too far though; commercialization is ruining and americanizing the game
Christian Hernandez Would you say Chelsea signing Pulisic is based on footballing ability or commercial reasons?
You can make it simple by saying that shit got done. Yes we all can sit here and talk about some possible negatives of the PL, but I'd say it has done more good than bad. Here, in Greece we are in the same situation as they were in the late 1980s but things ain't getting better anytime soon.
Add omnipresent corruption and conflict of interest and voila - Greek Super League now
@@Darwinek It's a very depressing and entertaining hot mess.
and the rest is history, great video...!!!
1:49. I see a pattern developing here..
Football had poor safety standards in the 80s?
Did any association football clubs of the top 20 reject the separation from the Football League to create the Premier League back in 1992?
Would be great if even just 2%-5% of Premier League revenues is filtered into League 1 and 2 as these teams don't have the luxury of parachute payments which the majority of Championship teams have.
history repeats itself alot aye..
Love your vids keep it up!
I have never heard of any of those horrific accidents apart from hillsborough, why don’t they receive the same coverage? Especially the juventus one.
Footnasium you just aren’t aware simple as mate
As an American who has really only known the Premier League. - What The F
1) Football is a working man's game
2) Hillsborough wasn't the fault of the fans
3) Football is nowhere near as good as it once was
Christian Hernandez it was working class and as started in the video, it was moved to a more middle class form of entertainment to help curb hooliganism. As for Hillsborough literally today match commander David Duckenfield is now to face retrial on a charge of gross negligence manslaughter. And finally on the game being worse than the past this is also true... Football used to be competitive not like today where one players transfer in the premier league could fund a league 2 team’s running costs for 20+ years
Football is for anyone who wants to join, and a persons game, not a men's game. Football is also a million times better than what it was, and its interactive, and globalized. No one knows who won the British Cup in 1973 or whatever
Electrified fences at Stamford Bridge is still a pretty good idea.
Why is that?
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This is just brilliant. Thank you.
Brilliant video as always 😃
Wait so the premier league IS the super league???? And you’re telling me football is hyper capitalistic and that Uber rich teams dominate the competitions? And that the poorest teams will absolutely never ever reach the pinnacle of the premier league???? Wooooowwwww
Great video learnt so many things
And it really advanced the prospects of the England team. So much so that we didn’t even qualify for the 94 World Cup !!! Mind you what did you expect from the FA ??
I mean that was too soon for changes to take place. We've qualified for every World Cup since.
@@alexlines4291 But you didn't qualify for 2008 Euros and only 1996 Euros and 2018 World Cup tournaments were seen as a success.
I love how this is in my recommendations less than a week after the Super League is announced. Well done algorithm!
Premier league teams have improved a lot in Europe over the last three years. I think another premier league team could win it next year
5:21 intervention or invitation?
If there's something to take away from the four sports here in America, it's that we market them to death. If they implemented a salary cap and had revenue sharing, the Premier League would be in an even better position.
Great video again tifo
It's interesting to see how the FA wanted to move football away from the working class who built it up and how even today working class people can scarcely afford the TV package prices let alone the ticket prices
How did the promotion / relegation happen?
Thomas L was 2 up 4 down until they reduced the numbers to the current level
This needs a part II.
"ceded control" not "seceded control".
I watching after getting news about the new Super League and I would like to ask anyones opinion wether you think the formation of the premier league is similar to whats happening now?
Im totally against the super league as for now but would really like to hear other peoples view on how this will effect the future of footbal.
Its all the same its just a far more financially beneficial version for the big boys you could and justifiably say that without the formation of the Premier League we never see this super league. Football died in 92 not now thats reactionary and the broadcasting monopolies saying otherwise are only doing it to protect the big money they've already put on the table.
The football league was far more equitable the divide between rich and poor wasn't this vast
Wait, so is the premier league and first division are 2 different leagues or just the same with a new name? I'm confused, help would be appreciated.
Short answer: £
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