Coleman 200 Minibike Torque Converter Install | Walkthrough
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2017
- We will install our Coleman CT200 Minibike Torque Converter onto a Coleman CT200 Minibike. This kit will fit all Coleman 200 Series Minibikes with a 5/8" (16mm) Crankshaft. CT200, BT200, and RT200 Minibikes. This kit will also fit the Predator 79cc Engine, Coleman 100 Series Minibikes with a 98cc or 3 Horse Power Engine, and the Mega Moto 105cc Engine.
Easy installation instructions for the Coleman CT200 Series Minibikes.
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Lose that dinky centrifugal clutch and upgrade to the Coleman Torque Converter Kit.
How much is the kit ?
@@alexmarquez4807 $194.00 There is a link in the info up top.
Cool and this makes the bike run faster right ?
Cause I just ordered one and I want to install this to it
@@alexmarquez4807 The gear ratio allows you to get more power to the wheel. Yes.
That's what this sweet bike deserved all along 🥰
Lol
just ordered mine from you guys awesome cant wait to get it...
Just ordered the stage one carb I hope that fixes it! I really miss riding the little thing. Thank you for all your help, youre the only person that was willing to help. There are good people out there still!
My Ex came with EPA style carb jet. TO remove it, just use a very small flathead-tap it a few times on bottom of screwdriver to "groove" the old jet. press and remove. Mine came out very easily. Then your good to go with new jet. --if you have the tamper proof jet of course...
@@Awavy1 I got the old jet out too just fine but the new jet dosent have any adjustment for idling or air to gas ratio, my bike runs but will not move because of too much gas
@@timmy420qc Interesting, Does the Fake idle adjust screw have enough meat sticking out to cut a small groove in it with a dremmel? Then you can back the screw out possibly? I did the stage 1 kit and the jet is perfect on my EX...Is your emulsion tube in the right way above the jet you changed?
@@Awavy1 everything is correct, just no low end torque at all, I did the torque converter too and Idk if that is part of the issue
timmy420qc can you take a video of what the issue is? Are you sure TaV is all installed correctly? What makes you think it’s getting too much fuel to run?
Everything is fantastic except that torque converter cover !
This is probably a MY fault , however , I had a difficult time getting just three screwed into place. And the forth (lower right facing the torque converter cover) was un-reachable. I trimmed the housing and it fit the remaining bolts perfectly.
Now the housing is rubbing something in there 😳
All well , part of the fun is the chase !
Thanks for all the great videos
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Thanks for the video, my kit should be delivered the day after Christmas...
Hey now, don't be hating, I might make a channel one day... I have enough projects... Lol Merry Christmas, read my other commitment...
Merry Christmas, Sunny !
That video was VERY informative. Thank you for sharing.
Nice job...thanks for posting!
Nice video blog, Continue the beneficial work. Thanks a lot!
excellent video what I needed to know..since ordered my stuff..great job
NOTE TO SELF! Take off exhaust before raising the engine that way no issue with the frame!
great install video it was simple but yet very detailed would love to see a competition between the stock clutch and gear reduction and the tourqe converter! =) again great video
love ur vids bro
The torque of the engine doesn't ride on the Bolt and washers that just hold it all on the crankshaft the torque is on the keyway
Nice video guys!
Great video, nice set up! The only thing is the hacked up side cover. Use a pair of tin snips for a clean cut.
That's a great idea!
I'm the third owner of a 2020 colman CT200U ex and im planning on doing all of these upgrades i was planning on it before I saw this vid so thanks😁
Did you take the governor off of it yet.you get a lot more power out of it.
Installed the kit, very straight foward installation. I wanted my chain guard it was easy to add 1 hole on the plate and make a bracket to mount the chain guard to the plate.MAYBE something others would also be interested in?
would like to see how u did it. thanks for your post.
Smart man
It is easier than u think to fall and get your hand or clothes in an open chain smart man for using guard
Wow I love this video
Awesome!
@2:45.... grabbing the chain while cranking the sprocket with an impact drill... a good way to lose fingers lol
Just bought a new camo Coleman 200 cc mini. Ur show convinced me 2 buy.. I'm watching. Let's 🌟' t. 2. Modify.... T3ME
Did they eliminate the bronze bushing in the driver unit that the belt rides on?
You didn't need to cut off the bar because the torque converter should have a 1 inch plate to put the engine on. That plate eliminates the need to cut that piece off. Unless you were straight chaining it which it looks that way in which case you would just need to cut the mount for the chain guard. I straight chained mine and I went from 25mph to 41 mph. I just lost most of the takeoff speed I had but that's alright because now I can cruise the country roads almost going the speed limit
Not true for me unfortunately. I went to put the backplate on and that rear bar won't allow the backplate to fit flush. Now I gotta youtube how to angle grind and hope I don't end up cutting off a limb lol. Sucks
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@@ALEXGEORGE408You lrobably figured out by now but the jackshaft mount can get cut off also.
My Hemi Predator wouldn't fit with it on there.
I was confused with which was the DRIVER and which was the DRIVEN. So far this video has the best description of these parts. The DRIVER attaches to the engine SHAFT and the DRIVEN attaches to the CHAIN. It is important to know, when ordering a COMET or TAV, because the engine SHAFT could be 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 7/8" or 1" on the engine you want to install the kit onto.
hello go power sports good luck this summer big fan of all your sponsored guys on youtube rather be welding cars and cameras red beard build break a repeat when i am not building buggies a karts am watching your guys build and i have enjoyed every bit of it they are a blast geat job on your choice of team members its a class act thanks
Dude, try using a comma or period once in a while.
now if i did that then people like you wouldn't have anything to complain about, right;;; thanks for your thoughts, and concerns
I hope Santa brings you a new prefilter sock as you certainly melted that one. But "Let's not talk about that."
Any way to buy the shaft adapter by itself? I have a complete kit sitting around not doing much just need to somehow adapt the shaft from 5/8 to either a 3/4 or 1in. GPS do you sell the adapter by itself? Hate to buy a complete kit when I already bought one from GoPower for a project I never done.
Your awesome ❤
Do i have to remove chain guard brackets even if u use engine risers, or would I be better off using the engine riser mount plate instead?
Did you get an answer
How much further does that stick out compared to the original clutch?
Looks like the straight pipe runs right across the back of the spark plug lead ...as in you have to take the pipe off to pull the spark plug lead off the plug ....as in a common safety ploy when you don't want the engine to start. Also adds another step to changing the plug. So, yeah, I guess you need to have some extra exhaust gaskets in the tool box. Seems like it would've been easier, and safer from burn potential, if the pipe just went back directly under the seat and over the fender ...especially if you add the muffler to the pipe. But that's me Monday Morning quarterbacking ....
I'd recommend adding a peice of rubber / something to where the stands meet the frame under the engine, it'll probably reduce some vibration
I did on the build I'm doing cause I thought the same. Haven't finished it yet so I guess we'll see if that theory is correct
@@BM205 how did it go then?
@@coby4482 I don't know if it's really necessary it might help with vibration but I can't really say for sure
Awesome sausome
What header did you end up using I bought one from you guys and I alredy have one an neither fit on the mm80 frame with the aluminum motor mounting brackets the tilt the engine foward I need to know what to use
This kit will fit in my Baja 200cc? I just need the torque converter I already got exhaust/ filter and jetted carb. I’m pushing 40mph with stock clutch
I have a question the vent filter I never ordered it when I got the performance kit does it fit that hose that I disconnected from the back of the old stock filter and what vent filter in specific size do I need or can you drop a link to it from go Powersports or any other website that may have them
Angle sheet metal snips would work for that plastic cover JM2C
Do you guys recommend using any locktite for the clutch or header?
Why does this kit require you to cut the frame chain guard bracket off and other kits do not? Please explain..
Anything u could use to cover the holes from grinding the bar off? Some plastic rivets that hold car fender moulding or matting in trunks that u could silicone in wouldn’t be bad....just would like to keep water or debris from getting inside the frame
I filled mine with magnum steel epoxy, sanded it and painted, can't tell the holes were ever there
I wish you would have gotten a close up of the choke bracket and jet
7:30 I really like that table. Did you guys custom make it.?
Is there a reason you can't skip the risers and rotate the backing plate assembly up? It looks like there's three sets of holes where you installed the bolts where you could use a different set and rotate the assembly up a little
That's my question also.
If you cut the bracket off in front of the rear tire do you still need to lift the motor for the torque converter?
yes
Can you use that backplate and driven pulley with a different engine?
I have a problem on my ct200u ex mini bike and after about 1:30 minutes of running it revs a lot and gets so slow I need help with it plz
I put this tag 30 on my Baja warrior 200mb and it only goes slower at full throttle ,,I took apart the clutch and made sure everything was free of burs and slide good without the springs on,,,put it back together and same issue ,,,,any ideas
I added a torque converter and a stage 1 kit and cant hardly take off without it doing a wheelie. Thinking about pulling it off and putting it on my go kart. Any suggestions before I do
try out a 44 tooth rear sprocket! it lowers your torque a little bit & opens up your top end a lot. I hit about 45mph with a stage 1 & torque converter
It looks like that performance muffler will be a leg burner.
Troy Yarbrough nah it don't
That’s what happens to me
Troy Yarbrough don’t wear long baggy pants or shorts.
Wrap the header with header wrap and you will not burn yourself.
Leg is fine, but it did burn a hole in my kilt.
Is there an alternative bike with similar specs and frame etc? I've been looking for one for several months.
I can't buy this in Europe/Germany over the normal sites because they don't offer international shipping and I can't find it on Ebay or Amazon etc...
What tooth sprocket do you have on it and how fast does it go with the torque converter kit on it bc you do need more torque to run a smaller sprocket
I have a 60 Tooth rear sprocket with my torque converter it's a Beast with my Tillotson Hemi 212 💪😏
What are the tools needed for this whole installation of the torque converter?
GPS!!!!!!!!! I have a question. I have a go kart with a Tecumseh 6 hp Power Sport motor, that wont start. I've replaced the carburetor, spark plug, and recoil start. It has compression, spark, air and fuel. Any suggestions would be welcome. Keep up the great videos. Love the minibke!
Converter made the exhaust pipe go even closer to the riders leg
Hey boss do you see how you got the chain on the driven sprocket? is there a way to get that sprocket on the other side of that plate? Like do you sell a shaft with those capabilities? The shaft that comes with the kit does not allow the sprocket to be positioned other thn in between the plate and the driven pulley.
Will it work with the Coleman RT200? Also, does the CT200u ex and rt 200 use the same clutch? Can you tell me the jack shaft diameter of both bikes? 3/4 or 5/8? Thanks
Did you find out if it can and where you got yours from because in trying to find out also.
Good night I had a question I have a 30 series torque converter on a Coleman ct200u-ex and I was wondering if I put a 40t sprocket on the rear what I keep my same top end speed that I have with a straight chain
Any idea why I’m backfiring so much when I let off the throttle after installing the stage one kit? I also added the autolite racing plug and it has the zip tie mod.
You guys need to put together a cheaper 40 series, really come on guys, I love what you guys do and paid more for parts than i could have on a big internet site, which is hard to compete with just cause MERICA... I want to support You guys but can you help us out? Oh and thanks for the stickers. Lol. Merry Christmas Go Power Sports
Boohoo
What does the chain have on it to take it off and put back in ?
how do i from reduce the vibraton if possible at all thanks gizmo from leander tx
Hello I recently installed modified racing predator engine 212cc. I have torque converter on it the jack shaft screw is wrong thread. What is the size of screw?
How tight is the front big nut with spring under it supposed to be on the torque converter
What would cause my bike to run poorly after installing the performance kit? It powers then putters...no pattern to it...putters more than powers. I did not install the new jet my carb won't allow it. Also left the vacuum line from valve cover open and hanging...don't know what to do with it. Installed air filter adapter carefully so no leaks. Any thoughts? Engine is new and ran perfect before the exhaust and air filter install. Thanks.
You need a new carb that allows you to replace the jet. Your system has too much air and not enough fuel.
I still don't know what these torque converter kits do, or how they work. Is there a video I could watch that would show me that? I got a mini chopper and a 212i want to install but I need a jack shaft because the free wheel is on the right side instead of he left. Trying to learn about these things before I start buying parts.
The larger of the 2 bolts on the right side, what's the best way to tighten it?
An Impact wrench?
Anyone know of a video of a torque converter install on this same bike (ct200u-ex) with a predator 212 engine? Does the chain guard still tubing still need to be cut off when using the risers provided in the kit? Can’t seem to find info on this.
I have a ct200 with the stage 1 performance kit and bought the torque converter, but once I put the torque converter on the bike will barley move, am I missing something?
sucks that they don't sell the adapter sleeve separate. Save a lot more money buying the $50 1" TAV2 from ebay and buy the adapter sleeve from GPS. Even if they sell the adapter for about $30, $80 is a LOT cheaper than $180+.
do you have to cut the frame?
Would the Coleman 200 series fit my 196cc Coleman ct200U ex ? I bought a new 5/8 clutch and didn’t fit does that mean I need the 30 series torque converter kit ? That makes it a 3/4 right ?
How much is it for the torque converter kit? And what about a different jet, intake and exhaust? I have this same mini bike, I just bought it two days ago, it has a lot of torque, but it doesn't have very much speed, which I don't like, so I want to get some upgrades and I'm trying to figure out what it's going to cost me. Thanks
That’s what I want to know is the link for the rest
??will the clear tav cover fit the coleman ct200 torque converter and and will the clear valve cover fit I have the black ct200u ex
why do I need those spacers under the motor? Why cant I just take my TAV and use those extra mounting holes to have it pointed upwards?
U can use anything as long as it's strong enough
Is the linked torque converter the one that will work on the CT200U EX?
Alexs Apple Orchard yes it's for CT200u and CT200u EX
Will this work on a bt200x? I really want to get this but not sure it will work on my bike. The frame on this bike looks the same as the bt200x.
Yes, I have a Colman BT200x with a Tillotson Hemi 212 10hp Out of the box an I have a Torque Converter on it. I used a forward raised Engine mount from OMB warehouse so I didn't have to cut my cross bar on my Colman bt
Why did you use a 1 inch primary clutch with a spacer and not just use a 5/8 clutch instead.
Do you have to cut off the bracket?
Start it !! Ride it !! lol all fore play and no happy ending make Johnny a dull boy !! Also what the point of the safety wrap after you put the muffler on !? Should come with wrap for the part that's gonna burn you ... the muffler ! Also the parts to adapt the tav seem ... Home Depot ish .. I'm sure you could cut better pieces . Jmo though . Cheers ! Ps. The edit could have been way shorter . Not trying to bash you . My channel sucks lol !
Very conformative
Glad you think so!
I have the CT200u red frame. The one with the rigid forks and front/rear racks. Do I have to cut the bracket on this model?
Why didn't the design take the exhaust pipe over the center of the tire.?
It would be nice but it isn't absoultelty necessary...as enters and exits the bike by stepping over the seat
I would keep that flange, with one inch of pipe on it, cut it and make my own pipe going out over the back wheel, it is in the way for sure sticking out the side, why get burnt up.
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Would anyone have a torque spec for the crankshaft bolt? Thanks in advance!
why must that crossbar be removed? cant you change the tilt of the converter to go around it? I was hoping to do this mod for my brother's minibike but that will be a killer in getting him sold on it because he wants to be able to make it completely stock again if he needs to.
Omb riser plate lifts and moves forward keep you from having to hack the frame up
Don't you loose your stock fuel shut off with this air filter?
After installing the new jet from a stage 1 mod. kit on a ct200u the bike idles rich and will not move when given throttle, what gives?
I'm having the same issue did you ever figure out what was happening?
I got a moosun torque converter 30 series to install on Baja mini bike but I don't have the metric bolts now it's just garbage in my shed without metric bolts
I have the same model coleman and the bt200x. I noticed they made a riser that kicks the motor up and forward. Have you tried installing those and being able to keep from cutting anything? I am affraid to cut that bar off the ct200u because it fells feels flimsy compared to the bt200x. I ride rough and love jumping my bt200x. But been affraid on the ct200u. And wanting to go with that torque converter setup. But without chopping frame. Thank you for the video. And i will be contacting your shop for the parts.
Do not worry about cutting out that bar on the back. We race off road a lot, and that back area is not where these frames will typically crack. Its generally the two front tubes about 3"-4" below the neck bend. I also really love the riser plate you are referring to that is made by another reputable company.
@@deafduckracing2462 the bt200x is still going strong. But any tips on how to keep those heavy steel fenders on the ct200u-ex. She only rides that bike around slow rear fender fell off on a dirt road. I welded it back on and it fell off a week later. I welded as hot as i could without melting the thin bar. I must of got the minibike built on Friday at 5pm
@@goadmerle is the mount falling off the frame or the fender falling off the mount?
@@deafduckracing2462 the mount falls off the frame. Which you think they would of attached better since its where the vin and serial numbers are riveted. I may have to drill it and run screws through the frame. I contacted Coleman when the bike was only 2 months old. And they dont cover anything on these bikes. Even their welds. I am a certified welder. And told them the welds are shotty. Holes everyhere. The welds on my bt200x are beautiful. The frame on the ct200u-ex is more of a cast metal. And the bt200x is steel. And that cast metal cant handle the weight of those fenders. I found a few other people online complaining about the same problem. And one guy got it taken from police because the vin plate was gone. In California. Appeared stolen.
@@goadmerle Coleman definitely isn’t known for their welding quality control. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
How do I get the old jet out when it's tapered with two edges insted of slotted. I have the exact bike in this video brand new. What do I need to put the new jet in
You'll need to get a replacement carb, yours won't let you take the jet out.
Tap a flathead into the jet a few times with a hammer and it will unscrew out so you can put the new jet in. I guess they are anti-theft jets?
By doing this installment will i have to upgrade the valve springs? Or will the stock springs be okay
Stock Valve Springs will be ok until you take the governor out of the engine.
@@GoPowerSports Why would you pull the governor if you are installing a torque converter. It'll never get to ungovened RPM. And upgrading the valve springs are a waste. The stock valve springs are good to over 5K RPM which the engine will never see with a torque converter and stock gearing.
Do you recommend a billet flywheel with this kit or any other parts?
If you are doing a torque converter on a stock Coleman engine you do not need a billet flywheel. These bikes should get a stage 1 kit for the stock engine.
I never got nuts or a gasket with the first pipe I ordered which was the wrong one but I cut it because we're going to use the mini bikes I had to order a new one and that one came with the gasket and nuts
I put this EXACT same kit on my Coleman BT200X(from GPS)Stock I was going 18-20mph. Once installed I went down to 12mph,also didn’t get to the 12mph very fast either. Can someone explain this to me or give me any pointers. Maybe a operator error,go up a size in rear sprocket(currently I have a 50T) or maybe I missed something on the install... any advice would be great?
It should definitely be going faster! Check some other videos on torque converter installs. Sounds like its slipping. Did you use the right belt?
I called GPS,I hadn’t cut off my throttle screw yet. They said those converters are made to I gage at a high RPM so once I cut the throttle screw off I was hitting 33mph and could barely keep my front wheel off the ground!!!! So you are right,definitely going faster.
So I have a new issue,I Tightened my chain a little bit and now I feel like I’ve lost some speed...I wonder if to right of a chain can make the speed go down...? Any suggestions?
i just installed it, feels like it doesnt even want to move. full throttle cant get me up a bump. i have the bt200x just have not cut the gov screw. doesnt seem to be the problem to me. should move up hill with out full throttle. seems like the belt is slipping.
@@ME-pw3kc did you ever fix it?
@@MolagBalls no i never fixed it. dont have any time to work on my truck let alone mini bike. also i never removed throttle screw. will have to check everything again and see if it works.
where does that tube that goes into the air filter box end up after install?
Some people put a tiny air filter on the end of it. I just leave it in the rocker cover with the other side connected to nothing. It's a crankcase breather that pulses back and forth as the piston goes up and down. It should not be blocked off. If it gets blocked off the engine may start leaking oil.
@Go Power Sports I bought this bike awhile ago and it just started having this problem where when it idles it moves forward on its own and I don't know how to fix it
The clutch is seizing up. Same thing happened to me. Replace the clutch or take apart clean and lubricate.
@@ragnarragnarsson3128 okay I'll try and clean it and lube it up thanks for the advice
Hey man I just did this whole set up but I can’t get the jet out and now the bike only runs faster than 5 miles an hour with the choke on but off it won’t go faster than that do know what the problem could be
Same
But I can WOT the bike and it go 40mph
I know the torque converter helps the take off, but I was wondering if it raises the top speed as well.
Billet Parts is the way to go. Higher RPM, Faster Wheel RPM.
all about gearing
I have to run in pull n jump on my Coleman mini while choke is on jus to get going. If I try to pull it setting the back tire grabbing kills it once throttled, until Its rolling
Can I get the parts you removed
What you think it my 200exr would do with ex pipe, air filter, torque converter, and new chain with a 60t rear sprocket? That’s what I’m shooting for if this idea gets good feedback. Anyone? TYVM for the help. @gopowersports