Talk about coincidence! Was asked that very same question by a new c&b shooter a few days ago. I follow pretty much the same guidelines you do. With one exception: During a simple clean, I use isopropyl alcohol(rubbing alcohol), to first clean off the bp residue. This also applies to muzzleloading rifles, etc. Been doing so for many years and have not found anything else that cleans up the residue quicker, easier, or more thoroughly. Afterwards, like you, a good final application of Ballistol. My experience with Pyrodex also mirrors yours. Use plenty of the stuff...no problems.
I'm glad you mentioned removing the nipples even on the "simple" clean. I know many claim they almost never remove them, but I have seen too many cases of nipples rusted in place and extremely hard to remove on used guns over the years. Good luck with the trailer!
A very good video. I agree with you. I rarely do "a deep clean" as you refer to it. i once did but found I was doing more harm by disassembly than the slight accumulation of fouling was to the internals. I now clean about once a year or if I develop an issue. your videos are great.
Haha it takes me 1 hour as well to do a deep clean. Like many a BP shooters have said, if you don’t have the patience to clean them or you find it a burden, then BP may not be for you. I believe you’ve even said that it’s an enjoyable part of the process and a 100% agree with you👍🏽👍🏽
Been shootn cap and ball for 50 years. Clean regiment much like yours. But generally leave one loaded all the time cause I carry it everyday. I live in southern Illinois and in summer humidity very high. Have had good luck doing things this way my guns don't look pristine but they have been through rain snow and any weather situation known and fired untold thousands of times. Like your videos jay appears ya have fun. That's what it's all about. 05:00.
you realize that if you use your pistol in a "social" occasion it will likely be taken as evidence by the police and stay uncleaned for pwhat might be a very long time .
I read an article once by a historian that a quarter masters inventory during the civil war didn't include any gun cleaning articles. The theory was hot water and bacon grease was what they most probably used. Since reading this I have experimented with mixtures of tallow, vegetable oil and beeswax. The particulars of the recipe don't seem to be critical. I use this as a bullet lube and LIGHTLY grease the whole gun inside and out. I basically treat it the same way as I do my cast iron frypans which really if ever see any soap. Heat is the best steriliser I believe. Clean up is easy, hot water and a few patches with a little of the "grease" and a more thorough deep clean at about the intervals your suggesting work for me. Humidity, where I live can hit 90+% in summer Ballistol is a great product, you can do a lot worse, and I use it on occasion. I enjoy your channel. Thanks
An old timer at my club, who recently passed on, used to tell us to remove the grips, take down the major pieces, put them in a basket, and run everything through the dishwasher...when the wife isn't home. Then wipe them down, apply a light coating of oil, and reassemble. He'd been doing it for his entire adult life. He also owned a decent gun shop.
Great video and well produced. I recently got into BP revolvers and follow the same procedure with same products. Thanks. BTW - I grew up in Grand Rapids and know what you're saying about the summer humidity!
I live in a year-round arid area - less than 10" of precip yearly. If I don't want to clean right now, I'm not worried about postponing. But I enjoy the "zen" of dis- and re-assembling, so I'm probably going to get to it pretty soon.
My problem with pyrodex was always longterm issues rather than stuff that was getting used regularly. I used it exclusively when i was young cuz thats what i was pointed to at the time as the industry standard 😵. Buuut i have had completely clean and oiled peices that were put away for years when i was younger n had small kids. When i got them back out i had rusty nipples seized in cylinders, all screws rusted n corroded, dead triggers, locking bolt, hammer, fuzed broken springs. In my experience if they were put away like you would put anything away for storage they just did not stand the test of time. I have heard this from others now, if you are gonna use it you have to check on them from time to time cuz even if you think it clean and preserved that stuff is gonna go to work on the steel. Its good for some people but i just stay away from it now, there is just no upside for me to use it.
Living close to the Gulf of Mexico the humidity here is rediculous so I have to deep cleaning and full tear down, BP and substitutes are extremely hydroscopic so it’s mandatory here! Bore butter works well to help keep spent powder from sticking to metal parts, I make my own bullet lube from beeswax and crisco, 80/20, 20% beeswax
Frankly. I do most of the time too cause of humidity. But there are options that I wanted folks to know about in case they don’t or don’t want to. Thanks!!!
Great video, you answered a lot of my questions and especially about Pyrodex since that's what I use . I enjoy your Chanel keep the great videos coming
i dont own a bp revolver but when i get one you rest assured it will be cleaned regularly oh j stone i finished up the hawken rifle its rust free now bluing repaired and stock refinished admittedly the stock looks like hell but its done the video is on my channel
How I clean is a bit different. First off I am lucky that my water heater has extremely hot water near boiling. I tear my (mostly Colt's clones) down just as normal to replace a cyl. the water is running and getting hot. I hold the barrel by the rammer and under the water till it is so hot I can't hold it anymore.... the cyl is in the bottom of the sink with the hot water running unto it. the nipples are out and in a card I made that they screw into... that card goes in my ultrasonic cleaner while I do the rest. bonus.. I never lose a nipple next I hole the frame with grips still on under the hot water. yep... next I have a cleaning rod with a 'mop' for that caliber that I run through the barrel and each cyl. So far 5 minutes spent. Ok. now i do what i do for all my pistols ..... I use my version of ed's red my version has lanolin in it and is a CLP but better. Now I clean like any other pistol. toothbrush some ER on to everything and wipe it down....Oh... my guns are nickel plated (by me at home) and so I can see any spots of crud. I tale a clean mop and put my ER on it and swab the bore. it is now shiny as a new dime. I twist it into the cylinders too (not too wet) The ER has gotten down into the action from the toothbrushing and is actually dripping out around the trigger at this point. wipe up... Screw the cleaner than clean nipple back in and put the gun back together. I never tear down a BP pistol past this unless a spring or something breaks! I have torn down guns treated this way that have not been torn down for a year or more and there is not one spot of rust anywhere.... same for all my smokeless guns.. no rust anywhere. All of this has taken maybe ten minutes.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb My son says I should patent the/my version of Ed's red but I think it is too good to charge for. You can make a gallon for very little and honestly? it works for everything. if you keep a rag that is imbedded with it you can wipe down guns that others handle (we all break em out of the safe to show folks right?) Some of my guns are minty and 100 years old (a model 1917 made in 1919 for instance and a 1936 outdoorsman) so I would not use something that did not work. I have bought every cleaner oil whatever in the last 50-60 years and nothing comes close. Oh.. the Kerosene needs to be the K3 or camp type...Lanolin has to be the real stuff...AtF can be any brand.
I put a thin layer of bore butter on everything. I found that fouling wipes off more easily if there's a coating of butter underneath it.
It’s good stuff
I agree, I use a home made version in the same way.
I do that as well after cleaning them, it does make a difference, I think it helps prevent powder from sticking and wipes down easy
@DeucesWildRC I agree. And it lasts in the gun on the shelf.
Talk about coincidence! Was asked that very same question by a new c&b shooter a few days ago. I follow pretty much the same guidelines you do. With one exception: During a simple clean, I use isopropyl alcohol(rubbing alcohol), to first clean off the bp residue. This also applies to muzzleloading rifles, etc. Been doing so for many years and have not found anything else that cleans up the residue quicker, easier, or more thoroughly. Afterwards, like you, a good final application of Ballistol.
My experience with Pyrodex also mirrors yours. Use plenty of the stuff...no problems.
Thank you for another great video, hopefully , more people will enjoy our great hobby !!
That’s my plan. Get folks into it! Thank you!!!
I'm glad you mentioned removing the nipples even on the "simple" clean. I know many claim they almost never remove them, but I have seen too many cases of nipples rusted in place and extremely hard to remove on used guns over the years. Good luck with the trailer!
I take them out first! Even in a deep clean. Only put em in finger tight too…I hate stuck nipples! Thanks
A very good video. I agree with you. I rarely do "a deep clean" as you refer to it. i once did but found I was doing more harm by disassembly than the slight accumulation of fouling was to the internals. I now clean about once a year or if I develop an issue. your videos are great.
Thank you! Yea. Sometimes we have to do what works and not what we’re told!!! Thanks again
thank you sir and congratulations on the new rolling home great vidio thank you
Thanks! That’s gonna be fun! I’m excited about it!
I do the same and your camper looks great! Kind Thanks, Many Blessings and Good Shootin! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Thank you! Same to you and yours
Haha it takes me 1 hour as well to do a deep clean. Like many a BP shooters have said, if you don’t have the patience to clean them or you find it a burden, then BP may not be for you. I believe you’ve even said that it’s an enjoyable part of the process and a 100% agree with you👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks Kevin. It’s part of it!!!
Absolutely sir also not only is it cleaning but a quick inspection to see if any parts are getting worn etc etc👍🏽
@kevinamerio8105 and I forgot to say to tighten screws after simple cleaning!!! Thanks
Been shootn cap and ball for 50 years. Clean regiment much like yours. But generally leave one loaded all the time cause I carry it everyday. I live in southern Illinois and in summer humidity very high. Have had good luck doing things this way my guns don't look pristine but they have been through rain snow and any weather situation known and fired untold thousands of times. Like your videos jay appears ya have fun. That's what it's all about. 05:00.
you realize that if you use your pistol in a "social" occasion it will likely be taken as evidence by the police and stay uncleaned for pwhat might be a very long time .
@bunkstagner298 I never thought of it!! But you are correct.
I read an article once by a historian that a quarter masters inventory during the civil war didn't include any gun cleaning articles.
The theory was hot water and bacon grease was what they most probably used.
Since reading this I have experimented with mixtures of tallow, vegetable oil and beeswax. The particulars of the recipe don't seem to be critical. I use this as a bullet lube and LIGHTLY grease the whole gun inside and out. I basically treat it the same way as I do my cast iron frypans which really if ever see any soap.
Heat is the best steriliser I believe.
Clean up is easy, hot water and a few patches with a little of the "grease" and a more thorough deep clean at about the intervals your suggesting work for me.
Humidity, where I live can hit 90+% in summer
Ballistol is a great product, you can do a lot worse, and I use it on occasion.
I enjoy your channel. Thanks
An old timer at my club, who recently passed on, used to tell us to remove the grips, take down the major pieces, put them in a basket, and run everything through the dishwasher...when the wife isn't home. Then wipe them down, apply a light coating of oil, and reassemble. He'd been doing it for his entire adult life. He also owned a decent gun shop.
Wow! I’d be divorced lol. Who’s to say it doesn’t work? Not me. Thanks
Great video and well produced. I recently got into BP revolvers and follow the same procedure with same products. Thanks.
BTW - I grew up in Grand Rapids and know what you're saying about the summer humidity!
Yea…it’s a whopper today too!!! Thanks! Really glad to hear you’re finding your way into BP revolvers. It’s a blast!!
I live in a year-round arid area - less than 10" of precip yearly. If I don't want to clean right now, I'm not worried about postponing. But I enjoy the "zen" of dis- and re-assembling, so I'm probably going to get to it pretty soon.
I do too and most often deep clean mine cause I like it. But many don’t get the zen lol.
My problem with pyrodex was always longterm issues rather than stuff that was getting used regularly. I used it exclusively when i was young cuz thats what i was pointed to at the time as the industry standard 😵. Buuut i have had completely clean and oiled peices that were put away for years when i was younger n had small kids. When i got them back out i had rusty nipples seized in cylinders, all screws rusted n corroded, dead triggers, locking bolt, hammer, fuzed broken springs. In my experience if they were put away like you would put anything away for storage they just did not stand the test of time. I have heard this from others now, if you are gonna use it you have to check on them from time to time cuz even if you think it clean and preserved that stuff is gonna go to work on the steel. Its good for some people but i just stay away from it now, there is just no upside for me to use it.
Hey thanks! That’s real interesting and I’ve never put them away for that long. I’ll keep that in mind.
Living close to the Gulf of Mexico the humidity here is rediculous so I have to deep cleaning and full tear down, BP and substitutes are extremely hydroscopic so it’s mandatory here! Bore butter works well to help keep spent powder from sticking to metal parts, I make my own bullet lube from beeswax and crisco, 80/20, 20% beeswax
Frankly. I do most of the time too cause of humidity. But there are options that I wanted folks to know about in case they don’t or don’t want to. Thanks!!!
Sound advice.
Thanks
First like!👍 🙌 💥😶🌫️
Great video, you answered a lot of my questions and especially about Pyrodex since that's what I use . I enjoy your Chanel keep the great videos coming
Thanks! Glad it helped! I will try to keep em coming
You should name your camper after Stonewall Jacksons horse Little Sorrel.
Ohhh I like that. Especially as a horse owner/lover. I’m here cleaning now so I feel like naming after mice lol.
i dont own a bp revolver but when i get one you rest assured it will be cleaned regularly oh j stone i finished up the hawken rifle its rust free now bluing repaired and stock refinished admittedly the stock looks like hell but its done the video is on my channel
Show us where to get the proper screwdriver set for your Deep Clean when you film that video. Italian screws are thin & aren’t always tempered well.
I bought a set of wheeler screw drivers from Brownells online for about $50. They are great
How I clean is a bit different. First off I am lucky that my water heater has extremely hot water near boiling. I tear my (mostly Colt's clones) down just as normal to replace a cyl. the water is running and getting hot. I hold the barrel by the rammer and under the water till it is so hot I can't hold it anymore.... the cyl is in the bottom of the sink with the hot water running unto it. the nipples are out and in a card I made that they screw into... that card goes in my ultrasonic cleaner while I do the rest. bonus.. I never lose a nipple next I hole the frame with grips still on under the hot water. yep... next I have a cleaning rod with a 'mop' for that caliber that I run through the barrel and each cyl. So far 5 minutes spent. Ok. now i do what i do for all my pistols ..... I use my version of ed's red my version has lanolin in it and is a CLP but better. Now I clean like any other pistol. toothbrush some ER on to everything and wipe it down....Oh... my guns are nickel plated (by me at home) and so I can see any spots of crud. I tale a clean mop and put my ER on it and swab the bore. it is now shiny as a new dime. I twist it into the cylinders too (not too wet) The ER has gotten down into the action from the toothbrushing and is actually dripping out around the trigger at this point. wipe up... Screw the cleaner than clean nipple back in and put the gun back together. I never tear down a BP pistol past this unless a spring or something breaks! I have torn down guns treated this way that have not been torn down for a year or more and there is not one spot of rust anywhere.... same for all my smokeless guns.. no rust anywhere. All of this has taken maybe ten minutes.
Hey. That’s fantastic. I might steal some of your ideas!!! Thanks for giving this information. Sounds like you’ve got a good routine! Thanks
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb My son says I should patent the/my version of Ed's red but I think it is too good to charge for. You can make a gallon for very little and honestly? it works for everything. if you keep a rag that is imbedded with it you can wipe down guns that others handle (we all break em out of the safe to show folks right?) Some of my guns are minty and 100 years old (a model 1917 made in 1919 for instance and a 1936 outdoorsman) so I would not use something that did not work. I have bought every cleaner oil whatever in the last 50-60 years and nothing comes close. Oh.. the Kerosene needs to be the K3 or camp type...Lanolin has to be the real stuff...AtF can be any brand.
@doranmaxwell1755 thanks. I may try it!!!!
How were they cleaned during the civil war.
My understanding is with hot water and animal grease. But I’m sure, just like today, there were many different ways.
Conestiga( wagon ) or “Connie”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conestoga_wagon