I haven't seen much of it. I got a few Batman collections from Ollie's and saw the Metal comics, and he does draw some goofy, off-putting faces pretty often. But then again, so did Kirby.
@@laseraw IDW has had a lot of financial issues lately which could put a damper on Artist's Editions. Also it takes a lot of time and work to track down all those original pages from various collectors and scan and compile them. But I would love to see daredevil edition with JRJR and Al Williamson.
@@GodLovesComics understandable; those books are obviously put together with a lot of care. However marvel could just print the “stats” of the inks as easily as dc does with several batman books as well as other characters… but marvel never seem to
Got to admit I’m not the biggest fan of his but wanted to see what you had to say and you did a fantastic job with this video. I’m fairly new to finding this channel but now I’m going to watch the druillet video because this was so damn good. I appreciate the hard work you put into this craft of comics..
Wow the colors really destroyed what is otherwise beautiful art. Sometimes I wonder if digital colorists are bitter they cannot draw and are just getting that emotion out on the page. I think it was bad colorists who made me into such a black and white comics fan. 😅
If I had only seen the OA, I would think this was a beautifully drawn comic. Meanwhile if, like 99% of readers, if I only saw the printed edition I would think it was pretty hideous. When color is doing that to the art, there is a huge problem. There's no greater argument for B&W comics than coloring like this. The thing is, it's really not the tools so much as the taste. The colorists now think all these light flares and airbrush shading effects are state of the art and they are just obliterating the line work. Who thought neon green was a great idea?
Hi Rasheik. Most of my writing has been prose (a novel) and criticism. The problem with comics is that you need an artist and although I've collaborated with a few talented artists nothing ever got completed. But actually I've just started writing a comic, and I'm hoping to hire some big name artists as collaborators. But we shall see. The best laid plans... Were you asking because I was so critical of Mark Millar's writing? ;)
@@GodLovesComics what no I just wanted to ask because I think everyfan of comics have thought about writing one and sorry about not seeing the new videos I forgot about the bell
@@GodLovesComics I like Williams a lot but I do prefer janson over jrjr. The problem is that a lot of their work together occurred as digital coloring became more and more prominent and intrusive. The wolverine pages in this video are a clear example of that. The line work and black balance is exquisite in those pages, rarely seen … then the color comes along like a horse in a china shop
@@laseraw Yeah, the thing is I was pretty much out of mainstream comics by the time this came out so seeing how horrible the coloring was and how much it obliterated the line art was a shock. And yet no one else even talks about it. This sort of heavy-handed computer coloring just became the norm to the point where everyone just blindly accepts it (including apparently the artists). I guess flat, tasteful coloring is considered old fashioned when compared to all these garish light flare effects. As for Williamson vs Janson, it's really no contest for me. Williamson is one the greatest artists in the history of the medium. He was a better penciler than JRJR and a better inker than Janson.
@@GodLovesComics I was pretty much out as well, specially big 2 stuff but things like this brought me in. The art is too good. I think JRJR achieved his current style with Williamson on DD for sure but later developed with Janson an affinity that’s rare to see (like Davis/Farmer for example) When I see JRJR pencils and compare them to Janson’s inks I rarely see room for argument. They look “of a piece” They just complement each other really well.
I enjoy his newer stuff. Even his New 52 Superman.
I haven't seen much of it. I got a few Batman collections from Ollie's and saw the Metal comics, and he does draw some goofy, off-putting faces pretty often. But then again, so did Kirby.
The coloring on wolverine hides most line work… thanks for doing this
Exactly! The terrible coloring obliterates otherwise great linework. It looks completely different and infinitely better in black and white.
@@GodLovesComics yeah! Where’s the IDW artist edition of JRJR…
marvel should do more b&w editions anyway… even if their not oversized
@@laseraw IDW has had a lot of financial issues lately which could put a damper on Artist's Editions. Also it takes a lot of time and work to track down all those original pages from various collectors and scan and compile them. But I would love to see daredevil edition with JRJR and Al Williamson.
@@GodLovesComics understandable; those books are obviously put together with a lot of care.
However marvel could just print the “stats” of the inks as easily as dc does with several batman books as well as other characters… but marvel never seem to
3:44 See Klaus Janson's WOLVERINE issues! The MAN CAN DRAW!!!!
Got to admit I’m not the biggest fan of his but wanted to see what you had to say and you did a fantastic job with this video. I’m fairly new to finding this channel but now I’m going to watch the druillet video because this was so damn good. I appreciate the hard work you put into this craft of comics..
Thanks a lot, man. I always appreciate your comments. I really enjoyed doing the Druillet episode. Feel free to tell me what you think.
Wow the colors really destroyed what is otherwise beautiful art. Sometimes I wonder if digital colorists are bitter they cannot draw and are just getting that emotion out on the page.
I think it was bad colorists who made me into such a black and white comics fan. 😅
If I had only seen the OA, I would think this was a beautifully drawn comic. Meanwhile if, like 99% of readers, if I only saw the printed edition I would think it was pretty hideous. When color is doing that to the art, there is a huge problem. There's no greater argument for B&W comics than coloring like this. The thing is, it's really not the tools so much as the taste. The colorists now think all these light flares and airbrush shading effects are state of the art and they are just obliterating the line work. Who thought neon green was a great idea?
Hey I wanted to ask you ever think of writing your own comic
Hi Rasheik. Most of my writing has been prose (a novel) and criticism. The problem with comics is that you need an artist and although I've collaborated with a few talented artists nothing ever got completed. But actually I've just started writing a comic, and I'm hoping to hire some big name artists as collaborators. But we shall see. The best laid plans...
Were you asking because I was so critical of Mark Millar's writing? ;)
@@GodLovesComics what no I just wanted to ask because I think everyfan of comics have thought about writing one and sorry about not seeing the new videos I forgot about the bell
I prefer janson over jr than miki. More energy.
I haven't really compared the two. I'll take Al Williamson over anyone, any day. But Williamson was so good he was like a cheat code.
@@GodLovesComics I like Williams a lot but I do prefer janson over jrjr. The problem is that a lot of their work together occurred as digital coloring became more and more prominent and intrusive. The wolverine pages in this video are a clear example of that.
The line work and black balance is exquisite in those pages, rarely seen … then the color comes along like a horse in a china shop
@@laseraw Yeah, the thing is I was pretty much out of mainstream comics by the time this came out so seeing how horrible the coloring was and how much it obliterated the line art was a shock. And yet no one else even talks about it. This sort of heavy-handed computer coloring just became the norm to the point where everyone just blindly accepts it (including apparently the artists). I guess flat, tasteful coloring is considered old fashioned when compared to all these garish light flare effects. As for Williamson vs Janson, it's really no contest for me. Williamson is one the greatest artists in the history of the medium. He was a better penciler than JRJR and a better inker than Janson.
@@GodLovesComics I was pretty much out as well, specially big 2 stuff but things like this brought me in. The art is too good.
I think JRJR achieved his current style with Williamson on DD for sure but later developed with Janson an affinity that’s rare to see (like Davis/Farmer for example)
When I see JRJR pencils and compare them to Janson’s inks I rarely see room for argument. They look “of a piece”
They just complement each other really well.