“He Was a Disaster”: Ret. Col. Andrew Bacevich on Donald Rumsfeld’s Legacy as Architect of Iraq War
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- Donald Rumsfeld, considered the chief architect of the Iraq War, has died at the age of 88. As defense secretary for both Presidents George W. Bush and Gerald Ford, Rumsfeld presided, his critics say, over systemic torture, massacres of civilians and illegal wars. We look at Rumsfeld’s legacy with retired Colonel Andrew Bacevich, whose son was killed in Iraq. Bacevich is the president of the antiwar think tank the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. He says the Iraq War should be the most important item inscribed on Rumsfeld’s headstone. “He was a disaster,” Bacevich says. “He was a catastrophically bad and failed defense secretary who radically misinterpreted the necessary response to 9/11, and therefore caused almost immeasurable damage to our country, to Iraq, to the Persian Gulf, more broadly.”
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As foul as Hell is, it's a worse place with Donald Rumsfeld there!
Well said!
Here, Here ! Well Stated There Sir !
What a great way to describe it.
The devil called one of his own home.
One of the most disgusting human beings to have ever lived. Must be burning in Hell
"The invasion of Iraq was simply a war crime. Straight-out war crime." ~ Noam Chomsky
One of the great voices of truth. I will miss the sobering discourse this man provides.
@@dunningkruger3774 totally agree blood for oil only problem is china is getting the oil
Texting email to my thought police I did a bit on this, Cheney, Rumsfeld, military industrial complex that president who? warned about as he stood down, then referred to Chomsky myself. I knew nothing of this until Goldman Sachs Gorter Family Foundation philanthropist professional aid narcissist gave me radically severe brain damage six years ago. Left me in remote hilltop van wreck to rot for six months unconcious by Queen's Service Medal Priest, I'm slowly waking to a phone I was given and it's "Hello World" outside six years solitary on life Support food powder and creek water
Fact, anyone who says otherwise is in denial, or is a Warmonger themselves.
@@dunningkruger3774 Who speak of an appointed government chronnie or a lobbyist boot licking politician , Dems Republicans both the same feeding at the pig trough and you are supplying the feed matey!
Even today there are still many Rumsfeld in the corridors of power in the US. That is a frightening thing.
Oh yes. Like Chris Hedges just suggested, we should brace ourselves for a possible new and improved Trump. If you ask me such a figure will have influence over the Pentagon and know how to woo them instead of being laughed out of the house.
Rumsfeld is legacy. We need Pompeo.
He should have faced justice in The Hague. Glad to see you go, Rummy.
Indeed. Another criminal who could not set foot outside of America for fear of ending up in the Hague, on the same level as Kissinger.
If there is a hell, Rumsfeld is roasting!
Waterboarding this clown, on TV
The Hague has ZERO legitimacy.
@@donaldclifford5763 treasonous neocon redcoats have ZERO legitimacy
mistakes? No way! These wars were deliberate criminals acts.
MICorpratocracy
Yes!
All servicemen died for nothing.
English tv program called the power of fear yes they planed it years beforehand
@@toniomalley5661 ain't watch TV since 911
Well another person who committed War crimes has left without paying any consequences.
“If there is NO 🔥Hell🔥then it was all in VAIN - but if there is a 🔥He’ll🔥 then BYO (Lunch) AmeriKKa! 🦇🐍🐀🐊🐷🦊😭🖕
Oh he will pay he's soul
It appears to be the American way.
Just like the Wall Streeters.
@@pamelafranklin3452 If there's a God. That's about as likely as winning an asymmetrical war if you've got the weapons.
Let rich men fight rich men’s wars!
Amen to that.
An overwhelming bipartisan majority supported regime change, by military force. Mission accomplished.
@@donaldclifford5763 Neocon war-profiteers and their sellout lizard gecko. Mission accomplished.
These men destroyed many countries, saddly by name of the American people
May you never rest in peace, Rumsfeld!
You should off yourself. Please.
Fire in the Hell is million time hotter than in the sun. Rumsfeld's soul is burning into proton- and electron+ and be separated for ever, so there is no chance he would be reborn, reincarnated. Enjoy the show, Donald!
The #1 takeaway is that Rummy was never held accountable for anything. In the United States, Political Class, socioeconomic status, gender, and skin color always have and always will protect you. Rummy had them all. The #2 takeaway is that there are no exceptions to #1.
It makes me livid. The whole Bush cabinet are the scum of the earth.
@@DaveT383 Keep going right through Barry Soetoro and Drumpfascoris, all s**t birds on the Gravy Train.
@You are correct But Shillary, and Madeleine Aldead will have a special place in hell. Condeliza, and Cologne Blow Powell were tokens groomed by Bush crime family, Barry Soetoro too, aka Barrack Obama's mommy, and daddy were CIA. Rumsfeld was old school (under Nixon) white guy crook was his point.
@You are correct But Gender and race? I'm not sure what you are talking about. I didn't say anything about gender or race. And has been noted here, neither Condi Rice nor Colin Powell, among many others, would walk out of a court in the Hague. The history of political power is full of corruption and evil deeds. Malevolence is not limited by any particular attribute, certainly not race or gender.
All are scum ...all that attacked Iraq ...soldiers ....every one of them
Rummy, Cheney, and W were a real "Triad of Terror" half the time the rest of the time they were just 3 stooges.
I'd say, Obama, Clintons, and Biden.
@@donaldclifford5763 I say your mom.
@@G0rdonFr33man May she rest in peace.
don't exclude John Bolton..another war monger..always keen on bombing the "enemy"
He did not "misinterpret it" he knew exactly what he did, and you are still lying and covering it up.
Conservatives in 2001:iraq
Conservatives in 2022:China
I cannot remember a single year of my life, where the word WAR has not been in the air. After WW2, as children we heard of Japan and Germany, then there was Korea, a "minor" scuffle as compared to WW2, but it was in the air non the less. Then came the "Cold War", the Cuba Embargo / Missile Crisis, Bay of Pigs, then Vietnam, and those "happy" years disappeared as friends went away and never returned. It has been a continuous blur of disaster after disaster, as our country, beacon of freedom and democracy in the world, goes about its bloody business of indiscriminate punishment in the name of those same hallowed virtues.
We've gone astray in some ways and we need to take inventory of our priorities as the world grows smaller. 911 showed us demonstratively, that we are not out of reach any longer. Even in WW2, German U-boats were off the coast of Long Island and New York was the target (but we didn't want to talk about it). People like Donald Rumsfeld, with their own private agendas, used and manipulated the process of government for their own gratification, and the youth of this country paid for it. I roll my eyes every time I hear debates over not wanting to leave the "debt" to the next generations. But ironically, those are the same people who support wars, instead of social programs, and the rebuilding / modernizing our infrastructure, who have no problem in spending, when it comes to war, and depleting the gene pool of the next generations.
Wars are ubiquitous in today's world. But, is its absolutely necessary for America to become involved in every skirmish, or dispute over land or water rights, simply to satisfy political agreements with "friendly" nations? Keeping the aggressors, of any potential threat of war in check, is granted, an unpleasant yet necessary job. I do not favor a new "Closed Door" policy, as there is no emergency exit, but neither should we embrace the permanent position of custodian / Policeman of the world, and certainly not to be used as the mindless "junkyard dog", "go sic 'em Fido!" And, we cannot afford to be manipulated by threats from within, by our own politicians. I want to see the 'Brass Ring" removed from the nose of the American people. We are not farm animals. Our votes should count, and if the people in Washington, who claim to represent us, were truly doing their jobs, they would not ignore the voice of the people and lead us astray, for their own satisfaction and political gain.
I agree with you 100% and what came out of the 9/11 disaster was mission accomplished for al queda who knew America would come out all guns blazing and play straight into their hands as we can see by the lunacy of American foreign policy of the last 25 years.
@@owenokane9643 Thank you for your reply.
Follow the money and the sadism. It will all make sense.
Simply said :
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I guess you should read William Blum's book.( America's deadliest export democracy.) It will let you know more about the USA foreign policy of war crimes and injustice around the world.
Hey Mitch McConnel, pay attention to how Rumsfeld is being discussed. You're rather powerful too. And we will always remember you for hate crimes against the American people!
" Preach " !!!
Very well put, my friend.
I surely hope so. But I am not holding my breath!
Moscow Mitch..Dr No
Congress sorely needs to be reminded that the power to initiate and wage war CANNOT be vested in the President alone and Constitutionally IS NOT!
Congress is an evil enabler of executive power. 1/6 should be reassessed.
Only if you don't understand the nature of war, and the nature of a president as commander in chief, under the constitution.
@@donaldclifford5763 corporate commander to steal from Americans. Bush/Cheney.
Congress ceded that power and create a near dictatorship when it comes to waging wars. UNFORTUNATE.!!!
This means they are also responsible for not stopping the corruption!!!!!
Thank You Ret. Col. Andrew Bocevich for talking truth.
“We the People” did not elect George W. Bush. Never forget.
Plant trees not Bushes.
His time will come, too.
true but we did elect all the politicians that sanctioned his crimes
@@schmoborama American used, as a voter but all these people already by special interest choose also paid for their election, later American vote blindfolded for these people
The Swap Money and the Military Industrial Complex are the real powers in America
Truly a sick society that this man rose above even shining shoes!
. On Camera, Donald Rumsfeld has said "It was in our best interest to create instability and chaos in the middle-east since the early 1970s" (WATCH Errol Morris Film The Unknown Known)
DUHMUCKcracy Now is but late, and lame. Donald Rumsfeld was a savage warmonger just like the ones now working at the same position.
Obama Nobel Peace prizes winner alike should also be picking up dogsh*t in a park. These people have profound lack of morality and should never be allowed to run anything in a moral society.
Rumsfeld distinguished himself over many decades, serving first as the youngest ever Sec Def, and years later, as the oldest. You're failure to appreciate his great service speaks poorly as to your lack of character.
@@donaldclifford5763 Yeah, I think real highly of Ted Bundy too! I follow MLK judging people by the content of their character. Rumsfeld served the rich and powerful, blessed are the peacemakers (not warmongers) says the Holy Bible. A rich man has less of a chance to get into Heaven than a camel has to go through the eye of a needle!
Hi all, Rumsfeld was the worst secretary of defense in US history. Being newly dead shouldn’t spare him this distinction. He was worse than the closest contender, Robert McNamara.
The Pinkbarrio. Don't forget Henry Kissenger, Madeleine Albright, Hillary Clinton, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice, all war criminals.
I dont see alot to choose from -- they both were terrible Company Men who did what the boss de jour wanted regardless of the truth and the law.
@@GARRY3754
If McNamara would have pushed the military to develop new technology, such as aerial attack drones-which was possible with that era's Cold War technology.
We wouldn't have lost Vietnam. At the very least It would have ended in a stalemate. Similar to the Korean War, but no...
We instead ended up with Agent Orange and "McNamara's Morons"
@@GARRY3754 McNAM(era) was a WWII bombing statistics guy, him and his ilk were a called 'Whiz Kids' which is also a tittle of a book. JFK was nuts picking him, Henry Cabot Lodge, and of course LBJ. Rumsfeld was a Korean War flunky who caught on to the MIC 'Gravy Train'. He affected Viet Nam too under Nixon.
He lived long enough to be aware that withdrawing from Afghanistan represents another military like that in Vietnam. As then it was just a matter of months before the Vietcong over-ran Saigon, it is now a matter of time before the Taliban retake Kabul. All this means is that the 20 year engagement in Afghanistan was a failure as was that in Iraq.
BS they weren't mistakes and "we" were lied to. The ones of us who called out the BS were run down by guys like him.
"There are known knowns; there are unknown knowns and there are unknown unknowns."
A classic tactic of, "If you can't convince them, then confuse them".
Orwellian BS. Rice and Greenspan spoke in circles too. Republicans today just outright liars and seditionists.
What that said to me was. It doesn’t matter what we know or not. We have full spectrum power and will use it wherever we choose whatever the facts are in reality that we can’t using the media.
Put another way, he was also saying no one can stop us. Not even our own citizens or institutions because we have both under our direct and indirect control.
And he was right then and it is still the case now.
Hopefully Henry Kissinger's next.
So many to choose
Obama too. for hindering democracy in eqypt and getting into bed with the resident dictator there and his secret police with their torture detention centers. I wonder if Obama was friends with him so he could rendition prisoners there for unconventional questioning.
Kissinger is the living embodiment of evil it keeps him alive.
@@hizzlemobizzle 100%!!
@@clarissamarie4605 MICorpratocracy is BOTH red/blue "parties" there is only one party, the WAR Party. We need a PEACE PARTY! purple.
Urban slang dictionary entry for *mansplaining* should be a link to that insane Rumsfeld speech about known unknowns
OR a scene from The Office
Well if you knew what he knew then you knew that she knew nothing about what they knew because I knew that ect ect. 😂😭
@@notimetowaste1254 lol...a vast sea of wandering pronouns with no nouns or sentence subjects in sight...I'll never understand how any information at all gets exchanged in *man world* 😄😆
@@immortalasirpa8117 😉👍
@@immortalasirpa8117 what I don't understand why the American public bought those "lines". LoL
Obama let Rumsfeld and his clan walk. The supposed enlightened president of change.
Tomas, when will the sheep wake up and understand that all presidents over the last 30 years are ALL part of the same club and you are just an insignificant pleb. To the world CORPORATIONS communism and fascism are both one and the same. They are all satanist but the communist have no self control and expose their demonic traits by burning down businesses. Stalin called them useful idiots. Leon TROTSKY, a communist who assisted Lenin in bringing down the Czar of Russia.was kept safe by ROCKEREFELLER who kept him on his property until time to leave on ship. Woodrow Wilson provided his passport and TROTSKY used WALL STREET money to finance their revolution. There is even more to this story. Their were certain world bankers that vowed vengeance on the Czar for not going along with their conquest of the world. Anyone who becomes submissive to the communist or fascist are useful idiots. But the world ruling elite who rule by intellectual vanity and human reasoning will create a Frankenstein monster that will ensure that the world ruling elite are the biggest losers of all when demonic man destroys the entire world in nuclear World War III.
I'm afraid your right he missed the enlightenment by a long way but I wasn't that surprised he was and still is just another of the political click that offer their constituents a better world but always leave us feeling so disappointed. Once they reach their goal we the people become secondary.
Legacy of death and destruction under his watch. Someone the world will never miss or remember.
I have protested and marched against war for 52 years.
You can't blame every US citizen for the Iraq War. That's a scapegoat. There was fierce opposition to the war and the Bush presidency by millions of people.
Americans need to own up to the war crimes of our government. We are the laughing stock of the world, and only second to the dogsh*t Russia.
You can blame the people for voting for the same old corrupt parties though
Absolutely. Not every American is for war and killing of innocent people.
However there is the Commander in Chief and his Generals who are above the law as long as we define the Law as absolving their actions in the Performance of their Duties !!!
I was one of those people who opposed attacking Iraq.
"There is a need for serious reflection" NO! There is a need for some accountability and justice. This guy is a clown, he keeps excusing war-crimes with his flowery too sorry to tell the actual truth language.
Rumsfeld served the president, who conducted regime change by authorization of a bipartisan super majority of congress. We got it. Mission accomplished.
Years ago, Bachevich was the first who opened my eyes to the insanity of USA
Government and Policies. Maybe it was 2000. He is a wise man.
This needs to be said!!! Great interview.
This needs to be challenged.
"We" didn't reelect him. the Electoral College of Antiquity did. let's make sure we get history right please
Bush won the popular vote in 2004. The only Republican to do so in the last 30 years. He was massively popular and Rumsfeld was very liked.
More SCOTUS, Governor Bush of Florida and the Brooks brothers riot. The GOP hadn't gotten over Kennedy's likely cheating his way into the White House so they stole the 2000 election.
Which isn't to say that the Dems didn't royally screw up and kinda give Dubya both of his wins.
@@luperamos7307 Dems didn't even BOTHER to come out to vote for Herman Munster. Bush was not "massively popular", and Rummy has NEVER been well liked.
@@luperamos7307 I think you better re-check your facts... there where only a few(like 5 in HISTORY) that lost the popular vote, and ONE WAS G W Bush in 2000
@@RussellD11 And when did I talk about 2000? I said people loved Bush after he started the Iraq War, so he won the popular vote in 2004. In 2000 he had to cheat himself to the presidency. In 2004 people couldn't get enough of Bush.
Can't agree with his sweeping statements. Those warhawks should burn in hell including our own Blair. America is a sick puppy now, internally and internationally.
According to human rights watch: more than 1,000000 Iraqi child lost their lives in this War. ONE MILLION INNOCENT CHILD NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO GROW UP LIKE YOUR CHILDREN . This fact haunts me since I’ve read it years & years and it still hurts more as I grow up even though am not an American, how you sleep with clear conscience... I HAVE NO IDEA ! R.I.P to those innocent children they deserve our grief, not this inhuman disgraced lying TYRANT.
They convince themselves and only themselves that they are a good people but let's be honest they were lead by the nose by the hawks of the Bush administration and the country became morally bankrupt. Nobody throughout the world listens to or trusts you anymore.
world dose not have a Nuremberg court any more
3 million people died all together including the children many were starving and denied what they needed for clean water because the UN too I think the UN should be dismissed.
Well said .
War criminals, Rumsfeld, Blair and Bush.
He's right about collective US responsibility. As someone who was always against the Iraq war and even had people back then physically threatened me over my seeing through this bs, I remember very well the atmosphere back then. The vast majority of Americans supported it. A small silent minority didn't know or may be against. And only a very small number were vocally against attacking Iraq. We've got to come to grips with this evil culture that is a danger to the rest of the world and us.
Bush won the election in 2004 and even won the popular vote, which is a rarity for Republicans and he was the only Republican to do it in the last 34 years. So he was massively popular and Rumsfeld and Bush had massive support. They were very liked at the time.
Uncle Sam knows best attitude that prevails were is in fact Uncle Sam knows sweet f### all. Put your goddamn guns away and try talking to people for a change.
@@luperamos7307 he didn't win the 2000 election fair and square. Very questionable. I agree most of the US people were duped into supporting their plan to attack Iraq.
@@johnnythrogmorton7700 Im talking about 2004
Sometimes the majority is actually, right. and a disaffected minority lacks the character to see it.
not religious but "there's a place in hell for" this war criminal
Correction..., We are in Hell!
He was in hell and act as such.
Which one? Obama, Clinton, or Biden?
@@donaldclifford5763 all
@@darkroastlefty2803 I think the ones I named are the principals of the cabal to undermine the will of the people. I do not go off on rediculous assertions about "war crimes".
@@donaldclifford5763 well, in that case throw in Bush and Cheney too.
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Rumsfeld is dead. Good.” ------Bette Davis
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Great video. Of course, you will never see this kind of analysis on CNN, Fox, or MSNBC.
He was also part of the free-fire zones in Vietnam what a colossal mistake that was
So much for not speaking ill of the dead 😂 but honestly, Rumsfeld was awful, a classic example of toxic masculinity, ego, and a bag man for the military industrial complex. I can't think of many positives about him unless you're an ultra-conservative. He did help personally evacuate the Pentagon on 9/11, I guess.
Speaking truth about a warcriminal dogsh*t enemy of America and Americans.
Putting more power in the hands of the people is a good start.
As a military man this guy is going to slide on assigning direct responsibility on any individual, but putting it on the people is downright cowardly! Public opinion was strongly against that huge terrible mistake - the Iraq war - and aside from the George Floyd protests of last summer, I never have seen a larger outpouring of public sentiment as I did against the invasion, and war in Iraq!!
Was it a mistake? 😊
To quote the great British Playwright Harold Pinter " I do have a strong sense that we are all being betrayed, ALL THE TIME, in fact by the power..., people who run our lives"
The Devil has a new protege in Hell.
What's not a disaster in USA these days? Hell, even Assanges case is falling apart. We can't do anything right
This was such a subtle, sensitive, exceptional discussion of war, ethics, and responsibility. 🙏
Thanks for reporting.
Wow, you are responsible for the death of millions, yet you die peacefully in your sleep, where Karma at? : /
Dying in sleep, doesn't mean, it's peaceful nor is the next phase of journey.. There's a hell waiting for him with open arms.. So don't worry.
Yep, he had no conscious...
Ironic to compare him to McNamara because they were both dead wrong on so many levels its impossible to mention them all in one posting.
Two guys who were good CEOs but lousy at the Pentagon.
It's interesting that Bush is starting to be looked at in a more positive light these days now that Trump's ugliness overshadows him. Rumsfeld, however, remains just as evil for those with at least a vestige of a memory.
Funny that a guy who launched two unnecessary and unjustified wars is regarded as better than one who was just a bit vulgar.
No he's not people know he a scumbag
That such bad people acquired so much power shows that something is wrong with this system.
It’s the stupid people who vote them in
I'm very glad this Colonel is speaking so honestly. BIDEN'S PENTAGON NEEDS TO LISTEN, PERIOD !.............Oh and for the record I never voted for or bought into one single word Bush, Cheney, Condoleza, Rummsfeld, or any of that clutch of villains ever vomited out, ever !!
@Lino Benetti Don't think for a minute you're that innocent either. I know I'm sure as he'll not , especially due to my days an active alcoholic and bartender who would push booze like he'll on people. So be careful throwing stones while inside the proverbial glass house !
What’s not unknown is Rumsfeld is a war criminal who died without charges leveled at him
I disagree entirely with Bacevich regarding these decisions ..
The Iraq War was a horrible strategic and military intelligence disaster that we are still paying for.
What a terrible legacy to leave as a human being.
Iraq is a stable unified nation, cooperating with the US and the west on matters of security.
@@donaldclifford5763 Go to sleep now, bot.
@@donaldclifford5763 - I suggest you move there for a bit and tell us after a year or so how stable, unified and safe your new home is. Oh, and never mind ISIS. They were also a by-product of that war. Are people better of than during Saddam? Well, most likely but before you celebrate keep in mind that Saddam was held in power for a long time by the very US and US money to be a nemesis for Iran. Iran, another country the US has made a worse place by installing the Shah and removing the elected president. Mess after mess, all done in the name of the US' true god: The Mighty Dollar.
@@ineshvaladolenc6559 You're being way too dismissive considering your obvious lack of meaningful comprehension. Try harder.
Eight days after the invasion of Iraq on March 19 2003, Paul Wolfowitz, then deputy defence secretary and a leading proponent of the war, told a Congressional committee: “We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.” A decade later, that assessment could hardly have turned out to be more wrong. The US has overwhelmingly borne the brunt of both the military and reconstruction costs, spending at least $138bn on private security, logistics and reconstruction contractors, who have supplied everything from diplomatic security to power plants and toilet paper. An analysis by the Financial Times reveals the extent to which both American and foreign companies have profited from the conflict - with the top 10 contractors securing business worth at least $72bn between them. None has benefited more than KBR, once known as Kellogg Brown and Root. The controversial former subsidiary of Halliburton, which was once run by Dick Cheney, vice-president to George W. Bush, was awarded at least $39.5bn in federal contracts related to the Iraq war over the past decade.
Two Kuwaiti companies - Agility Logistics and the state-owned Kuwait Petroleum Corporation - are the second and third-biggest winners, securing contracts worth $7.2bn and $6.3bn respectively. The US hired more private companies in Iraq than in any previous war, and at times there were more contractors than military personnel on the ground. “These numbers are staggering,” said Claire McCaskill, the Democratic senator who has led the charge to tighten contracting controls. “In the last decade, we’ve seen billions in taxpayer money spent on services and projects that did little - sometimes nothing - to further our military mission,” she said. But companies on the top 10 list defended their record. KBR “performed with honour and sacrifice in a hostile, complex, ambiguous and unpredictable environment”, said Marianne Gooch, a company spokeswoman. She noted that KBR had prepared and served more than 1bn meals and produced more than 25bn gallons of drinkable water and 265 tons of ice. Patrick Dorton, a spokesman for the International Oil Trading Co, a Florida-based company that secured contracts worth $2.1bn to transport fuel from Jordan to US forces in Iraq, said: “We are proud to have effectively supplied jet and convoy fuel in a war zone to the US military.”
The business environment for these contractors may be changing, with the war in Iraq over and the conflict in Afghanistan winding down, but these private companies remain. There are still 14,000 contractors, including 5,500 security guards, in Iraq even though the last troops left in December 2011.
John this is the best comment I’ve ever read. Excellent work!
yet we don't have the money to give our citizens health care or education witch is actually an investment that enriches the country as a whole, go figure
you believe this,DO YOU HOW MUCH IRAKI GOLD we STOLE,and we are still STEALING their resources.
Most lawmakers make decisions on behalf of their donors, not the American people. Who were the major donors of those in congress who voted to authorize the war?
They are not donors, they are epstein ped*lizards. Now we know who they really are.
Wasnt there world wide demonstrations by the people to stop the iraq war? I remember them. And the governments ignored the peoples wishes.
Rumsfled is not architect of Iraq war, he is demon of war. destruction, and cruelty
This guy lost his son and STILL can't seem to be able or is unwilling to say it as what it truly is!! What collective fault is that sir? Which collective are you talking about? The collective of the people in power who are completely ruthless and unaccountable? What a cowardice! Unbelievable...
Exactly! Say it! Rumsfeld!
He said bombing Syria and Iraq was a minor deal. Asshole.
idk that the problem was a lack of appreciation for the different facets of war, they might've said they wanted a quick and easy war but it was never the intent, the war gave them huge amounts of political and literal capital, it was in their interest to keep the war running and it's exactly why they're still bombing iraq
What a hustler! Rumsfeld will go down in history as a MONSTER!
I knew Rumsfeld when I was the professional staff of House Select Education in the 89th and 90th Congresses. (Congressional staff was a third of today's size back then, fifty years ago.) At one point I did some political favor for him, I forget what. My boss, John Brademas (D-Indiana) took it for granted that you worked across the aisle.
Rumsfeld was an active, verbally competent, half-wit. A four-corners, hell, box the compass, incompetent. In everything he did.
Poignant!
He died and finally he'll face his own judgement in the hereafter. My goodness I wouldn't like to be in his skin after all the war crimes he committed. Our creator will judge him rightfully.
If you really believe in that sky daddy stuff, you might want to re-read parts of the old testament. Rummsfeld would fit in nicely with David and other heroes, beloved by god. So don't get your hopes up. God approves of mass murder, slaughter and rape.
To believe as Andrew does that we are a functioning democracy, strains credulity. As we are a country run for the benefit of corporate profits. And the fact we have no living wage or M4A is the ugly truth that we are last on the list, if we are even on the list. As the list is controlled by corporate wants.
@Mia Cerro Yes, he is gaslighting
Andrew, or whoever this clown is, is a clown. Sick and tired of these soulless lying clowns.
There is no such thing as democracy on this planet, ok son,perhaps DUMMMBBMOCRACYY,same WITH FRRUUUDUMBBB
Can you imagine making the “known knowns, known unknowns...” speech to YOUR manager”?
Rarely does one find books written by a more qualified and knowledgeable author. I'm always appalled by the truths he reveals, and I know he's spot on. Many, many pages of endnotes that back up his facts and reveal much more.
Who’s going to give Answers for 1000/000 IRAQI got killed Men,women, children, elders people innocent??????
Can we take a moment to applaud this man, who, after losing a son to war, holds no hatred and animosity in his heart. Instead, he just wants what's best for his country.
Liberals are by their nature, and by definition, dishonest hateful reality deniers, totally lacking in good character.
Donald Rumsfeld had a good heart.
Several of them, actually, ripped from the chests of live Iraqi children.
Look at the voting records at this time-Both parties were lockstep in huge war expenditure, conservative judges, had dinner with this guy- made business deals
"Not free to travel country to country."?? What? at 70 after a life of travel one would be fine with sitting where they are. Once you have traveled the world settling in the spot you love best for the rest of your life isn't punishment, it's security.
I'm sure rummy could care less.
Well he's in the afterlife now, wonder how the first meeting with Saddam went ? and with the rest of the ShockNAwe Iraqi victims ?
"Didn't anticipate 9/11"??? He was one of it's architects!
"In a free society some of us are guilty, all of us are responsible". Rabbi Joshua Heschel
The UN voted against the war. That was our hint that it was a bad idea. The UN should be trusted, it's there for these types of issues.
Thanks for telling it like it was, Democracy Now!.
They are not accusing Russia for his death...
At least MacNamara expressed regrets. Hoping the exposure of Rumsfeld's crimes prevents further criminal behavior/remorse from the political establishment.
I don't understand the comment sections of major news channels when it comes to Rumsfeld. All comments are against him. But George Bush was re-elected and even won the popular vote because people liked Rumsfeld and what Bush and his friends were doing. Now they all of a sudden don't like Rumsfeld? I'm so lost.
Right where you are supposed to be. Next step is to get on the SSRI's and when that's not enough it's time for the opiates.
@Mia Cerro Exactly
They are all the same war-criminal pile of dogsh*t.
A big problem.... means "We the People" have lots of work to do...
No one is going to do anything. We can't.
So, the problem was he was not able to win the war since he was convinced of technological superiority, not the war itself. Amazing!
Not so old Kurdish saying " Never go down a Well with an American rope " That,s a KNOWN !
Known unknown, unknown knows, unknown unknowns. wtf, good riddance. sounds like Insoc newspeak.
George W. Bush should also be accused as a war crime over the invasion to Iraq.
Great interview.
"The quote is "You start the next war still fighting the last war"
3rd building to go down 7
Hey dude. 9.7 & 10.3 seconds is freefall.
@@Jay...777 Hey dude if you dig a lot in a cave in Afghanistan you get nanothermite.
Folks,whos responsible? I think the general is right. We as a society bear ultimate responsibility. If we fail to ask the hard questions, if we allow partisan media to control the conversation, if we continue to elect failed politicians, if we continue to do little about our failing institutions like congress to not act on what the electorate wants in the end we are responsible for the outcomes. cheers
AB is trying to widen if not shift the burden of DUBYA's crimes to citizens, as if there is a functioning democracy with "collective responsibility" for what the gov does. Bizarre coming from anyone who reads and thinks.
How come Rumsfeld is not charged for atrocities caused by international court?
An amazingly clear perspective.
Friends with Nixon, started long ago.
I wasn’t for the war in Iraq and I protested it. I don’t think the war in Iraq was my fault. I didn’t order it, and like a lot of other Americans I lacked the knowledge and power necessary to stop it.
If someone asks me to define BS
I'll be like 'its know knows and known unknowns but it is also unknown unknowns "
Give it a few years and he will get a Hollywood movie telling us what a swell guy he was. The rest of the world knows he was an awful war criminal but Americans memory and knowledge is embarrassing shallow and besides that, half the nation loves people like him.
Bacevich seems more naive, or he's hedging his bets, by stopping short of criticizing the real power in the U.S. which does not include our government.
Speak the TRUTH, & DO JUSTICE, no matter who it hurts or who gets upset. That is the ONLY thing that will save us NOW!!!
He’ll say, what do you want, we won 😂😂
We’re a war loving people. ~ George Carlin
I never realized the huge crease in rummys forehead, i wonder where he got that
Why aren’t these leaders being checked in the moment of their atrocities?
What a smart, sane, man with a mind as Fitzgerald said can hold two opposing thoughts in his head and still retain the ability to function.
"We collectively"?
By 9/26/01 I concluded that a skyscraper collapse analysis without distribution of steel data is nonsense. Find it in the 10,000 page NCSTAR1 report by the NIST.