A comparison of the front kick from Shotokan karate and Taekwondo. Taekwondo demonstrated by @trevorhannant Join our Patreon channel here: www.patreon.com/JNMartialArts...
The difference is obvious when one has reached 3rd dan above. In the ITF or tradional TKD after one learn the Kata or Hyong or Teul Moon Moo. Because the Koreanization of Karate take place a bit later in TKD development.
This is a very useful comparison, thank you John, Nat and Trevor. As an amateur karateka, I tend to see similar kicks from different MAs but couldn’t figure out the key differences. So this is really useful. Also RIP Nat at 5:15 😂
It’s great to see the similarities and differences from karate and taekwondo. Because I’m a real situation a hybrid of the two could happen. Thank you to both of you for pointing out the similarities and differences. 🥋
Great colab! I learned a lot. I rarely see the front kick in tkd. I usually see them throw roundhouse kicks, side kicks and back kicks. Also question mark kicks. Very interesting.
I love the front kick personally, I think it still has great utility despite the side kick being considered an "upgrade" in TKD competitions. Regardless, all techniques can be valuable with the right amount of training. Blessings, OSU!! 🥋👊🏾
Very good exploitations! Thx! I tend to either do the karate style with a lot of hips or the Teep from MT. I do not tend to rotate the standing leg much. As you, I want to drive forward into a hand striking range.
@@kenirawadi4689 true but a front snap kick isn't always high, at least where I trained. It's what makes doing both (tkd and shotokan) simultaneously easier for me
@@HappyHealthyKarate-Do you are right, I mentioned high kicks just as an example. In my TKD training the front kick or Up Chagi is a snap. In my Shotokan training Maegeri is a thrust. The difference is not very obvious if we do it in the basic form, i.e. as a single kick without jump, but in advanced forms we can feel the difference. I believe front snap kicks such as TKD Up Chagi allow us to execute more advance kicks such as double jump front kick. A thrust front kick such as Shotokan Maegeri is not very suitable for this.
Great comparison of technique! Do I notice that TKD style front kick is executed with a slightly more open chamber? Shotokan tends to have a centerline oriented chamber that protects the groin?
Thx guys,i do ITF taekwon-do now but also love karate,i wonder if i could learn both at the same time or its to difficult, learning techniques in korean and japanese language and so on
I have to mention the katsunori kikuno’s kick, which connect to the liver, probably one of the best Mae geri user in MMA czcams.com/video/2Un0Dw-6-U4/video.htmlsi=0Oe-bFl6NkR2JgZi
The weakness with karate practitioners kicks is that they don't utilize their hips much, their almost static. Theres too much emphasis on control, hence no real power. They don't do power training either. Traditional schools just kick air. Taekwondo schools always have power training. These two youtubers do blend the two arts together and DO NOT kick like traditional stylists. . I have compared with a traditional shotokan stylist and he doesn't understand half of what I'm doing but ends up concluding: yeah more power that way..
I almost want my karate not to look like a traditional stylist for the reasons you mentioned, I like to think of my karate as progressive or always developing, I think being too stuck on what is traditionally done prevents growth.
Was a pleasure bro! Awesome 💪
Prior to my Karate training, I started in TKD and its great to see two arts comparing kicks and a little bit of everything in between two martial art.
The difference is obvious when one has reached 3rd dan above. In the ITF or tradional TKD after one learn the Kata or Hyong or Teul Moon Moo. Because the Koreanization of Karate take place a bit later in TKD development.
This is a very useful comparison, thank you John, Nat and Trevor. As an amateur karateka, I tend to see similar kicks from different MAs but couldn’t figure out the key differences. So this is really useful.
Also RIP Nat at 5:15 😂
It’s great to see the similarities and differences from karate and taekwondo. Because I’m a real situation a hybrid of the two could happen. Thank you to both of you for pointing out the similarities and differences. 🥋
Greetings, a very nice video and nicely slowed down to show the parts that are moved and done! Thank all 3 of you for that
3 legends unite!
Great vid! Thank you guys!
Great topic, as usual ! Thanks for sleeping the passion !
Very interesting!
Btw clean techniques!
Keep going John!❤
Great colab! I learned a lot. I rarely see the front kick in tkd. I usually see them throw roundhouse kicks, side kicks and back kicks. Also question mark kicks. Very interesting.
I love the front kick personally, I think it still has great utility despite the side kick being considered an "upgrade" in TKD competitions. Regardless, all techniques can be valuable with the right amount of training. Blessings, OSU!! 🥋👊🏾
Nice video ! Regards from Perú 👊
Very good exploitations! Thx! I tend to either do the karate style with a lot of hips or the Teep from MT. I do not tend to rotate the standing leg much. As you, I want to drive forward into a hand striking range.
Thank you 🤩
I learnt Shotokan and now Chang Hon TKD. My understanding, while Maegeri is more thrust, Up Chagi is more snap.
Nat looks funny and cute as a kid!!!
I do tkd and our forms don’t have a lot high front kicks and we train stomach or sternum for the front kick
Probably ITF style (Chang Hon). WT (kukiwon) aim very high.
@@HappyHealthyKarate-Dowe’re actually under kukiwon but we’re Chung do kwan
@@HappyHealthyKarate-DoChang Hon also aims high. TKD founders think they need these high kicks to differentiate from Karate.
@@kenirawadi4689 true but a front snap kick isn't always high, at least where I trained. It's what makes doing both (tkd and shotokan) simultaneously easier for me
@@HappyHealthyKarate-Do you are right, I mentioned high kicks just as an example. In my TKD training the front kick or Up Chagi is a snap. In my Shotokan training Maegeri is a thrust. The difference is not very obvious if we do it in the basic form, i.e. as a single kick without jump, but in advanced forms we can feel the difference. I believe front snap kicks such as TKD Up Chagi allow us to execute more advance kicks such as double jump front kick. A thrust front kick such as Shotokan Maegeri is not very suitable for this.
Great comparison of technique! Do I notice that TKD style front kick is executed with a slightly more open chamber? Shotokan tends to have a centerline oriented chamber that protects the groin?
Yes, he uses a more open hip chamber to allow for more distance and height, whereas we tend to kick lower with the front kick and from a closer range
Thx guys,i do ITF taekwon-do now but also love karate,i wonder if i could learn both at the same time or its to difficult, learning techniques in korean and japanese language and so on
It could be difficult. Maybe focus on one for a while and when you have experience in that, add the other one
ITF have an almost identical mae geri.
For some reason the kukiwon style likes to aim their kicks at the chin of the Green Giant.
ITF also aim high. In general TKD founders consider high kick as one of Korean element.
3:22 nat ain movin
Kick Is kick, in Real combat your mind must be clean and there Is only brutal brawl style.
Of course, but there is nothing wrong with discussing technique
Does the demonstration front kick to the stomach not hurt him at all? That looked like it had power behind it lol
No, I’m stopping it short. He’s tough anyway
😊😊
I have to mention the katsunori kikuno’s kick, which connect to the liver, probably one of the best Mae geri user in MMA
czcams.com/video/2Un0Dw-6-U4/video.htmlsi=0Oe-bFl6NkR2JgZi
Yea that’s nice, I teach a similar thing, it’s like a blend between a mae
geri and mawashi geri, kind of in between
The weakness with karate practitioners kicks is that they don't utilize their hips much, their almost static. Theres too much emphasis on control, hence no real power. They don't do power training either. Traditional schools just kick air. Taekwondo schools always have power training. These two youtubers do blend the two arts together and DO NOT kick like traditional stylists. . I have compared with a traditional shotokan stylist and he doesn't understand half of what I'm doing but ends up concluding: yeah more power that way..
I almost want my karate not to look like a traditional stylist for the reasons you mentioned, I like to think of my karate as progressive or always developing, I think being too stuck on what is traditionally done prevents growth.
In kyokushion karate 🥋 front kick pushed your opinion.. throw down 👇👎