This New Citizen Promaster Is A Seiko KILLER!
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The point that the watch doesn’t use sapphire, is probably not due to cost or maybe it’s just partially the issue? I’m a former police search and rescue diver,and while for a real dive watch mineral crystals are better for scuba diving because it had a higher tolerance for shattering because although sapphire is cool and great as a fashion point, it’s shatters much easier than mineral, while the mineral is just more suspect to scratches.
Thanks for informing me of something I have suspected for long that mineral crystal has far superior shatter resistance compared to sapphire crystal. Honestly as an NY0040-17L owner I would take a scratched crystal over a shattered one.
@@DeepsGnome do you have the links of your sources? I’d love to read that !
I have BN0157-11X that I wear in the job as a repair technician and so far no scratches
I'm loving the increase in the number of smaller sized divers available at the moment. Finally some stuff us noodle-wristed watch guys can wear!
Their NY0040 is no wrist clock itself as well.
I just got back into watches, and I appreciate the smaller sized watches.
What other cool cheapies have recently been released in smaller versions?
My wife has been wearing her Eco-Drive watch for 21 years, without fail or service. She wears it all the time… from gardening to playing Squash. I own 40 watches, from Seiko to Omega. She finds it foolish, to say the least. Citizen is the real one-watch piece.
These are basically smaller versions of their classic pro master diver. One of the best divers I own. It’s a beast! Happy Halloween.
So happy to see Citizen getting out of their comfort zone. Their watches are always good value with exceptional quality.
After much faffing, my daughter took up diving this year. I also bought her the blue/coral version of this. And to be honest, I've been very envious.
OK, that intro was the best one to date - 10/10 would recommend, PLUS it's a video on a Citizen, one of THE most underrated watch brands full stop. Nicely done 😃👍
How is citizen underrated. It's a global giant
@@lawcane It is, but when talking about that price-point it's Seiko and Casio that usually steals the limelight and gets the enthusiasts talking. Not Citizen. Which makes me sad. My Citizen Skyhawk Blue Angels was the first watch I ever bought!
@@thetimist gotcha. I didn't know that.
@@lawcane Of course, no worries at all! Fun fact as a bonus, Citizen actually was the very first watch company to launch a titanium watch!
Dammit, another example of going from "I never heard of it" to "I really want one" in less than 60 seconds.
So they now have the 44mm and the 36.5mm. If so many people want a 40mm, why can't Citizen just make a 40mm of this style Promater?! I have this in the larger version (BN0151-09L) because I really like the features and value. But it's too big for me to wear a lot (44.2mm x 12.3mm). The "sweet spot" for me is 40mm x under 12mm.
Les hommes ont un choix large concernant les montres de plongé. Les femmes ont aussi le droit d'en porter et le 36,5 est plus approprié avec des modèles tenant sur les doigts d'une main. Profitez d'autres modèles à la pelle de version en 40mm.
Yes Sir, no truer words spoken
As a guy with modest wrists, I love the idea of a 37mm diver. A lot of my vintage skin divers are 35mm.
There is a Plethora of 40+mm divers already in the market. Smaller divers are a really welcome change.
@@TheeYellowDartBut not by Citizen and not in the pro master line.
They actually made it at 41mm on three colours pepsi coke and a green bezel i own the coke and the green bezel and they look amazing go check on them NY0085 NY0084 and NY0086
Have a early generation automatic Pro Master, day, date, none hacking.
One of my favorite watches from my collection. Brought new for £89. Citizen are great value.
I personally find it wears too small with my flat 6.5 inch wrist and just looks miniscule in-hand. I comfortably wear a Seiko Arnie with no lug overhang and 39mm is my personal sweet spot for reference. The watch itself is seriously well built. The black one plays with the light brilliantly on the bezel, crown and bordered indexes while still being brutalist-ly tool-ish. Bezel action is great with no play and great alignment on mine. For once, a Citizen strap that is wearable and not too long. There are some ridges on the underside of the strap that help hold the keepers in place, intentional or not, is nice. Smole ass sunken dial but still ultra legible. I do find comfort knowing a lot of 7+ inch wrist content creators have no issue wearing this size.
i have 7 inch wrists and when i first got this watch i definitely felt that it was too small (almost feminine) but that’s mainly due to the fact that i’ve exclusively worn 40mm+ watches my whole life. watches smaller than 40mm have always been the gold standard even for men and only in recent years have watches gotten bigger. don’t shy away from smaller watches my friend, no more bashing your case on doors and the comfort is unparalleled. it just takes some getting used to and in a couple of months you’ll wonder why you ever wore big watches in the first place
Bought a Citizen diver a few years ago and it had a bigher tank case, it has a big bro version watch with chronograph and sapphire crystal.
I like this citizen watches, but too small for me. I recently bought the citizen promaster skyhawk cb0230-81e titanium eco drive watch, it's radio controlled and also 200m water resistance and sapphire glass. But this ones are nice. The gold version for my wife would be nice. She already have one citizen eco drive watch, and I think this little diver is very nice. Thank you for the video. 👍👍👍
Love it, especially the dual finished crown.
excited with these watches, does the second hand line up with the minute markers?
I love the blue when you are diving it shows better than the black
Seiko killer is totally appropriate, I purchased the larger green dial eco-drive diver brand new for half retail price and it has become my grab and go work watch…I love it, even the bracelet isn’t half bad. These smaller versions look like another cool option.
I just got mine today. It’s a real beauty!
HiTime Teller. I just wanted some advice. I am looking for a solar diver for under £500 and under 40mm. What would you recommend? I have found the Seiko solar 38mm and also the Vaer D4. This Citizen also looks the business. Any advice would be much appreciated!
GOOD INFO,,,,THANKS
Saw one of the blue ones in my local Kay Jewlers. They are wicked-looking indeed.
Sweet, I finally found a video with the pink one
The rose gold looks great.
Did they release the regular navy color version in 37mm? (not the one with the bright blue strap).
I prefer smaller watches, but not quartz ones, though Solar power is better, and I have two; one is a Seiko & a Casio Protrek.
This Citizen looks good.
Wait, does the bezel line up with the dial? Is that allowed?
Really nice watches. I could see that rose gold version looking great on a chestnut brown strap. Size wise, mine is bigger than yours at 8.1" (that 0.1 is very important 😂) and I think I could wear that, it looks so good. Being solar powered is a big plus.
I could do a 37mm diver. I wore a 1969 Omega Seamaster 120 for 40+ years, SCUBA diving with it many times. It won't seal anymore so I have been diving with a G Shock and routinely wearing whatever in my small collection. I like a diminutive diver that is a real dive watch but fits under a cuff. I would change the crystal to sapphire. I have changed the mineral crystal of my Nighthawk to double domed sapphire.
Is the date window too small that its not legible, or the entire watch for that matter for general use. Also what about the crown? Is it too small to handle?
That intro was hilarious! 😂
Seiko has their small divers too. They previously made a solar Air Diver 38mm reminiscent in size to the Rolex 6538 worn by Sean Connery in the Bond films. Later it was rebranded as an Alba AEFD530. Hopefully watches like this make their comeback.
Having to "cut costs somewhere" isn't a very good excuse for mineral glass considering the price difference between mineral and sapphire is literally like $10. As an example, I found a hardlex replacement for an SKX for 19.99 and sapphire in several variants for 29.99 - 31.99 🤷♂IMHO for such a universally desired upgrade, the cost is negligible.
Watched it wearing my Citizen NY2300. Happy Halloween!
I see a lot of dislike for mineral crystal and I admit I don't like crystal scratches on my best watches either. However, I had always read that mineral crystal is less likely to shatter vs sapphire which on a tool watch makes better sense. The solution I have come up with on most of my lower seikos/casios is to use a glass screen protector similar to what people use on phones. If I ding it heavily, it gets a crack and I replace. Good as new then. Doesn't work with cyclops' though.
Good price, good review even though mineral crystal is a nono for me would get trashed
Happy Halloween 👻
I was wishing to buy the black dial version with black silicon strap. Then my wife told me that I always could be able to buy that strap and she adviced me to buy the steel strap. She was right. The geometric shape, the links lay-out and surface finish is exceptionally well integrated with the watch case.
If I had to buy later an aftermarket steel strap, couldn't find that a perfect match.
My suggest is to buy it with steel strap, and later enjoy the watch with NATO an other variatons, like brown leather.
Small is coming back, like the mini Duro. 18mm straps on sports watches was a thing way back when.
There are MANY models Citizen has quietly put out that mop the floor with lower and mid tier Seiko. Their Chronomasters are awesome too, but not exactly GS level. However, the Chronomaster isn't close to having a GS price, yet they're hand made like a GS.
What is not on GS level on Chronomaster exactly?
@vedranbozicevic1111 The GS is a step above the Chronomaster. But the Chronomaster is 1/3 the price yet hand made with a high level of detail. The GS is overall better, but you get far more for your money with the Chronomaster.
@@richdubbya I asked what is EXACTLY better on GS?
@vedranbozicevic1111 overall detail and design. If you put the 2 side by side, you'll see what I mean. I think the Seiko movements are "prettier", but overall dependability and quality are equals in my opinion.
@@richdubbya Details on the dial? Design is hugly subjective thing, not objective. Both zaratzu polished. If you compare quartz models, they have closed casebacks and both decorated movements.
Seiko has the Prospex SNE series that competes with these. They have similar specs such as the
Safire crystal and solar quartz movement. The SNEs are 38.5mm and include drilled lug holes; also under $400.
Exactly what I was going to comment. My SNE was just slightly more expensive for some very nice upgrades while also being a smaller diver. I cross shopped them, but the answer was clear. 38.5mm SNE is a gem among all of Seiko’s wrongs.
I went with the SNE as the GADA and went the citizen promaster for the mechanical day date diver, no regrets
Anyone know where to get a sapphire for these watches ??? Would make them the best bang for buck
I have that watch and love it. I have the blue one.
i have previous model of promaster diver 40mm and it is one of my favorite - great watch. very easy to read , good lume. I think 37 mm would be even better.
Time Teller looks like a British judge with that thing on his head
I have the 44mm variant of this, but really wish the date window was larger. Given that, I wonder if this 37mm variant would benefit from a cyclops for the date window, but you didn't seem to have any legibility issues.
I remember being warned for razor blades in apples, long, long ago, but Halloween candy tampering was reported to be very rare. Still, there were some instances that were mildly, to genuinely disturbing.
Good video
Bought the rose gold grey for my wife. A real Killer! She made it her new daily!
Great with smaller watches! But I miss ProMaster being about digital watches like my beloved Promaster Windsurfer D060
I am planning to get mrmone of these, possibly the blue one for me and the pink one for the GF
The reference of the models is not mentioned
LOL Awesome Video. Great looking watch but I really like my Casio Diver's Solar Powered 42mm Watch MTPS110-1AV Don't know if you've ever reviewed it.
Gotta love Citizen for their differences and they hit ALL the markers, the Eco-Drive Pro-Masters are the real deal, take note Seiko?!
I sold the large version of this watch because i wanted a mechanical but to date it has the longest lasting lume I've ever seen.
Models serial numbers? I like them a lot
Why is it set to the 30th?
LOL exceptionnal intro!
Citizen has always been super dooper. Super dooper models, colors, sizes, and of course super dooper pricing. Along with your super dooper mask and super dooper purply shirt.
The intro got me laughing so hard 😂😂
When i know I’m going to an AD and trying on a “smaller” watch, I don’t wear my big diver that day, as the visible jump, would be big! So going from big boy Tuna! to anything other then a Panerai 😂 would be a big jump scary jump in size
Blue is cool.
Can it be worn with a steel bracelet?
Definitely, I have the black version on steel bracelet borrowed from my older Citizen. Fits well, the color of the steel is the same so just try it...
@@darekz.8985 ok thanks👍
i really hope that hamilton follows with a smaller khaki. Unlike what everyone makes you believe the 38mm khaki is not a small watch, 30 years ago this would've been called an oversized khaki because most where either 34 or 36mm
You are right about the "urban legend" of razor blades and whatnot in kid's trick-or-treat candy. This dates back to the seventies as far as I know. Kids, however, have been hit by cars which is true and far more dangerous.
There was one case of poisoned candy but PLOT TWIST the perp turned out to be the dad, trying to off his kids without getting caught.
that opening thaugh
Seems dumb to limit the marketing of these to women (at least on the Citizen site). Unisex is a real thing, especially with watches. Like Jordi, I prefer smaller watches and I'm pleased to see more smaller diver options on the market.
Isnt that the same as a NY0040 promaster for 200 usd but in quartz ? Same packaging etc as the older NY 0040
Nope, totally different case.
That intro was honestly scary as hell! xD
Citizen is just the best brand
o dios mio el intro estuvo increíble la verdad
Just picked one up for $271 shipped from Jared using their new customer $25 off and the sale
If they took that grey face and used a more copper instead of rose gold metal, I'd buy that for sure!
Wifey bout to get one for Christmas fo sho
They should release the blue one full size.
Looks like they have a 98% near the markers which I could live with.
This watch would be much better without a date function.
If you are about to go underwater on a dive do you care about what day it is??😅
rose gold on a white strap
Imagine paying for that kind of box instead of just the watch.
Hey Jory, considering that this watch is obviously aimed more for the female market, would have been interesting to hear your significant other's view on this watch.
It's a teeny tiny thing!
Ahhh, mineral crystal! Again!!
This are good for the son 👦!!!!!!!! Christmas gift 🎁
I love 37 to 40mm watch sizes for the dress watches. 40 to 45mm for the dive ones. I'm not into the 37mm dive watch. It's small alright but not as useful when diving. Nope not for me.
A real small diver that is a actually a real diver watch. I don't like my divers that size though that's dress watch sized.
Lol so hard. Nice 1 brother. 😂
Why keep comparing citizen to seiko?
I dont see people comparing one swiss brand to another, for example.
Anyways citizen is huge and welcome all seiko fan boys.
As much as i live my seikos and they do have issues like misalignment and prices rising.
Citizen has their own issues like rotor noise on auto movements and smaller crowns.
But these! These are the best solar movements with no misalignment issuea great watches.
I have several citizens ec drives and one is the limited edition orca and i love that thing😍
I have the 1 st gen Fugu and the Pro master Ray Mears and the crown is superior to that of any Seiko I own.
@@JeeGee114 you've chosen well good for you
Because like it or not that’s the competition.
@@conduit242 maybe its just me comparing one watch i want to anything and everything else out there to get the best choice for myself. 🤷♂️
@@sivanstar Isn’t it a little silly to be outraged that they are compared though? It would be like not comparing Ford to Chevy or Pepsi to Coke?
I have this on blue, be sure to buy a Shark Mesh Bracelet !!!!
Cmon… it’s a nice design amd i agree with the size which i like, but nothing more. And the price is not so affordable considering you can get a mechanical for the same price.
The intro 🤣
Both watches , the old and the new one should have been 40 mm from the beginning.
We need 39!
Sadly Seiko SKX is Dead but Citizen continues to deliver watch lovers a robust watch that can be used in any condition. It's a shame that Seiko stopped listening to enthusiasts and chose to go down another path, one that will not be successful in my opinion.
Citizen Promaster Marine EO2028-06L
Same movement as the TAG Heuer SolarGraph.
So this is a steal….
Or the SolarGraph is a ripoff..
Have $125. Pagani with a saphire crystal and seiko NH movement. Mineral crystal is not acceptable on modern watches.
Jenkis Kahn
Seiko still has superior lume.
How big is the market for watches that are good for over 600 ft? You can’t beat a Seiko for value. The great majority of people could care less about a 600 ft watch.
I actually think the cheap promasters are better than many of the expensive seikos.
Just for once produce a watch like this without the date window.......
Finally a real watch for children. It's a change from Flik flak.
Now that they've got the size down to where it's wearable, do something about those ridiculous 'arrow' hands.