I really thought Gene had changed, that he was a good person and had let go of his ego. He is now changing the story to paint Barry as a complicated person rather than an evil one, all to ensure that he can exploit Janice's death for personal fame and success. He may be one of the least evil people in the show, but make no mistake, he's still evil.
I could list a bunch of people who are less evil than Gene - Chris - Janice - Jim (debatable) - John - Cristobal (debatable) - Lindsay - Ryan's dad - Ryan - Leo - Gordon - Gene's ex girlfiriend Gene is so evil, man. Dude harassed people left and right to the point that his ex lost her job just because they broke up. Dude abused his own students. Dude also abandoned his son TWICE and keeps exploiting Janice's death for his own glory. You only think that he's not that evil because you compared him to Barry.
@@nont18411 Very good points, but I think there's a difference between being a self centered asshole and being evil. Panicking about the responsibility of having a child and running away, getting ex-gfs fired out of spite, crossing the line when being tough on students, and putting your own success over everything else. These are all big-time asshole moves, but there's potential for change and redemption, which he really seemed like he was doing. He repeatedly tried to reestablish his relationship with Leo, and when he was successful, he really did have a good relationship with his family. He sacrificed his own pride and potential fame by letting his ex direct his new movie. While he was tough on students, he genuinely was a father figure to Barry and Sally and genuinely cared about them in his own way. He also initially came out of hiding to stop the Barry movie from being made. What makes him evil for me was this scene. This was his last chance. He is fully aware of what he's doing, fully aware that he is staining Janice's memory by chasing his own success. He knows Barry is a psychopathic murderer who killed the woman he loved, and yet he is downplaying that just to get a big actor on his movie. He can't change. He can't let go of his narcissism.
Nie trzeba zabijać, aby być złym. Można łamać ludziom życie, a Gene robi to cały czas. Z wygody i próżności. Kocha tylko siebie. Jest jedną z najbardziej paskudnych postaci w serialu.
@@PaddyRoon7 The epitome of Gene's character is that "You only think he's a good person because you compared him to someone else who's so much worse". - Abandoning his kid twice, getting his ex fired out of spite, being "tough" (aka abusive) on students and putting his own success over everything else, no matter who he hurt are potentially redeemable only because he was compared to Barry, a psychopath serial killer who is second most evil character of the show. Without Barry, these kinds of behaviors from Gene will be considered as hateful. - He repeatedly tried to reestablish his relationship with Leo, and when he was successful, he really did have a good relationship with his family. The keywords are "when he was successful". When he's not, he abandoned them. Just like what he did before the show started (and that's before Barry). Just like what he did after he shot his son (and that's also without Barry's influence. It's all him.) - "He genuinely was a father figure to Barry and Sally and genuinely cared about them in his own way." because the alternative for Gene is Fuches, the most evil character of the show. Any man would be a great father compared to Fuches. - "He also initially came out of hiding to stop the Barry movie from being made." The show made it very vague if it actually started from Warner Bros or him giving Warner Bros the idea. But since he already did it with the reporter and then did it again with Warner Bros. He is now completely irredeemable and all those things about him loving Janice was a lie.
@@nont18411 I'm not just comparing him to Barry, I'm only thinking about Gene himself right now. I genuinely think he didn't deserve to be called evil for his actions before this episode. Bad person? Sure. Evil? I think that's too big a word. Everyone has a different bar for judging people to be evil, though.
1:48 So... - Detective Loach, who was Janice's colleague, used Janice's death as a tool to blackmail Barry into killing Ronny because his wife dumped him and dated Ronny in season 2. - Barry hallucinated about everyone he has killed standing on the beach, except for Janice, who never showed up there, in season 3. (like Barry totally didn't give af about her) - Reporter Lon O'Neil kept interviewing Gene, Barry and Jim to sell his piece about Janice's death and gain more popularity. - Gene broke the promise with Jim about not exploiting Janice's death, then told reporter Lon about said story by painting himself as hero. And even after 8 years, he came back to sell Janice's story again to Warner Bros...then half-assed changing his mind a little bit...then back to supporting Barry movie again by rewriting history about Barry to be a more sympathetic character and mentioned Barry killing Janice as a "stupid thing" just to keep Mark Wahlberg in the film. Janice might be dead long ago but it's disgusting that these people keep desecrating her corpse for their personal gain...which is why I love this show. It's a straight insult to the exploitainment media like Dahmer show, Pam and Tommy and Blonde.
What's funny is this guy isn't even an agent, he's just some random dude acting in a sting operation, which means he just came up with that description of Mark Wahlberg whom he has presumably never met before. 😂
@@darkrogue234 DiCaprio is a far better actor. He is a method actor. While I have nothing against Mark Wahlberg, there's no way he could ever get onto the same set as Daniel Day Lewis. The tone of the movie would be two separate genres.
If Gene didn't have such a massive ego and wasn't a complete narcissist, he'd have seen right through this actor's ruse after the Daniel Day Lewis bait. That was a huge reach, and I bet the actor was shocked it worked. It would be like trying to convince a Basketball Coach that Michael Jordan is coming out of retirement JUST to play for their team.
I said it in another video but it really seems like Jim was willing to deal with Gene/$250K outside of the law. But Gene/gene’s ego still willing to let Barry be seen as a “sympathetic soul” pushed Jim to have Gene put in jail.
I would meet Mark at the Four Seasons....In Beverly Hills. Heck I would meet him up in his suite if that's what he wants. Now I'm not saying that I'm into men. I'm just saying......It's friggin Mark. You have to be open minded sometimes.
Such a beautiful shot
The fact that I thought Mark Wahlberg would actually make an appearance in this show lmao
The reveal was insane
Me too lmao
I really thought Gene had changed, that he was a good person and had let go of his ego.
He is now changing the story to paint Barry as a complicated person rather than an evil one, all to ensure that he can exploit Janice's death for personal fame and success.
He may be one of the least evil people in the show, but make no mistake, he's still evil.
I could list a bunch of people who are less evil than Gene
- Chris
- Janice
- Jim (debatable)
- John
- Cristobal (debatable)
- Lindsay
- Ryan's dad
- Ryan
- Leo
- Gordon
- Gene's ex girlfiriend
Gene is so evil, man. Dude harassed people left and right to the point that his ex lost her job just because they broke up. Dude abused his own students. Dude also abandoned his son TWICE and keeps exploiting Janice's death for his own glory. You only think that he's not that evil because you compared him to Barry.
@@nont18411 Very good points, but I think there's a difference between being a self centered asshole and being evil.
Panicking about the responsibility of having a child and running away, getting ex-gfs fired out of spite, crossing the line when being tough on students, and putting your own success over everything else. These are all big-time asshole moves, but there's potential for change and redemption, which he really seemed like he was doing.
He repeatedly tried to reestablish his relationship with Leo, and when he was successful, he really did have a good relationship with his family. He sacrificed his own pride and potential fame by letting his ex direct his new movie. While he was tough on students, he genuinely was a father figure to Barry and Sally and genuinely cared about them in his own way. He also initially came out of hiding to stop the Barry movie from being made.
What makes him evil for me was this scene. This was his last chance. He is fully aware of what he's doing, fully aware that he is staining Janice's memory by chasing his own success. He knows Barry is a psychopathic murderer who killed the woman he loved, and yet he is downplaying that just to get a big actor on his movie. He can't change. He can't let go of his narcissism.
Nie trzeba zabijać, aby być złym. Można łamać ludziom życie, a Gene robi to cały czas. Z wygody i próżności. Kocha tylko siebie. Jest jedną z najbardziej paskudnych postaci w serialu.
@@PaddyRoon7 The epitome of Gene's character is that "You only think he's a good person because you compared him to someone else who's so much worse".
- Abandoning his kid twice, getting his ex fired out of spite, being "tough" (aka abusive) on students and putting his own success over everything else, no matter who he hurt are potentially redeemable only because he was compared to Barry, a psychopath serial killer who is second most evil character of the show. Without Barry, these kinds of behaviors from Gene will be considered as hateful.
- He repeatedly tried to reestablish his relationship with Leo, and when he was successful, he really did have a good relationship with his family. The keywords are "when he was successful". When he's not, he abandoned them. Just like what he did before the show started (and that's before Barry). Just like what he did after he shot his son (and that's also without Barry's influence. It's all him.)
- "He genuinely was a father figure to Barry and Sally and genuinely cared about them in his own way." because the alternative for Gene is Fuches, the most evil character of the show. Any man would be a great father compared to Fuches.
- "He also initially came out of hiding to stop the Barry movie from being made." The show made it very vague if it actually started from Warner Bros or him giving Warner Bros the idea. But since he already did it with the reporter and then did it again with Warner Bros. He is now completely irredeemable and all those things about him loving Janice was a lie.
@@nont18411 I'm not just comparing him to Barry, I'm only thinking about Gene himself right now. I genuinely think he didn't deserve to be called evil for his actions before this episode. Bad person? Sure. Evil? I think that's too big a word. Everyone has a different bar for judging people to be evil, though.
1:48
So...
- Detective Loach, who was Janice's colleague, used Janice's death as a tool to blackmail Barry into killing Ronny because his wife dumped him and dated Ronny in season 2.
- Barry hallucinated about everyone he has killed standing on the beach, except for Janice, who never showed up there, in season 3. (like Barry totally didn't give af about her)
- Reporter Lon O'Neil kept interviewing Gene, Barry and Jim to sell his piece about Janice's death and gain more popularity.
- Gene broke the promise with Jim about not exploiting Janice's death, then told reporter Lon about said story by painting himself as hero. And even after 8 years, he came back to sell Janice's story again to Warner Bros...then half-assed changing his mind a little bit...then back to supporting Barry movie again by rewriting history about Barry to be a more sympathetic character and mentioned Barry killing Janice as a "stupid thing" just to keep Mark Wahlberg in the film.
Janice might be dead long ago but it's disgusting that these people keep desecrating her corpse for their personal gain...which is why I love this show. It's a straight insult to the exploitainment media like Dahmer show, Pam and Tommy and Blonde.
There has always been books, shows and movies about real-life tragedies because it's very to tell. Stay mad XD
@@FireJach Yeah but it’s not as rampant as last year.
You spoke it
Eh the reason Janice didn’t show up on the beach is probably scheduling conflicts.
@@matthewriley7826personally I like the theory that it’s because only some of the people he killed are there and that he’s probably killed hundreds
"the woods? No he's very frightened of the woods."
Ever since THE HAPPENING lol
What's funny is this guy isn't even an agent, he's just some random dude acting in a sting operation, which means he just came up with that description of Mark Wahlberg whom he has presumably never met before. 😂
this is 10x funnier knowing that Mark Wahlberg has clauses in his contracts that say he won't play bad guys.
I didn't know that lmao the scene is hilarious now
Whoaaaa! The less hurtful term is “antagonist”.
he plays a bad guy in pain & gain, wtf ure talking about
@@JulioCesar-yb6me hope he see's this lil bro
@@JulioCesar-yb6me yeah before he became an A list celeb and im not saying he wasnt great in 2012 its just that he wasnt as big as he is now
I knew the second he said Daniel Day-Lewis this was all nonsense lmao
I wanted to see Mark Wahlberg 🤣🤣🤣
@@thebeardog2317 Me too! I really hoped he would guest star, but the reveal it was a sting operation was so much better 😂😂😂
Mark Wahlberg in a film with Daniel Day Lewis? Gene should have called it out right there. That would be an all time terrible casting decision lol
That’s what I was thinking. Lol
Hey man, what do you got against Marky Mark?
@@jeffpraterJSF Just watch the first and second Ted movies😂.
They did it with DeCaprio.
@@darkrogue234 DiCaprio is a far better actor. He is a method actor. While I have nothing against Mark Wahlberg, there's no way he could ever get onto the same set as Daniel Day Lewis. The tone of the movie would be two separate genres.
0:42 Gene's ego getting inflated
Only to get popped at the Four Seasons…
"he's very frightened of the woods"
fugging chcoked on my cereal
I agree. The idea that Marky mark is afraid of the woods is really 😂
The fact that the “Mark doesn’t like drama” line is actually a reference to the HBO original ENTOURAGE is making me chuckle
I think this is the same location used in a few scenes from "Under The Silver Lake". Great indie film.
Ohh great catch!
Oh shit, yeah, you're probably right
That movie was bonkers, I loved it
Damn, was wondering how I knew this place. Very nice catch there.
what if this was the movie and they named it Barry and had him be played by Bill Hader instead of Mark Wahlberg
I’ve heard this theory by a couple other people. It would be such cool twist but I don’t think they’ll do it unfortunately
“Sympathetic soul”
Saying that was the final nail in the coffin for Gene, aside from killing Barry right as he decided to turn himself in.
If Gene didn't have such a massive ego and wasn't a complete narcissist, he'd have seen right through this actor's ruse after the Daniel Day Lewis bait.
That was a huge reach, and I bet the actor was shocked it worked. It would be like trying to convince a Basketball Coach that Michael Jordan is coming out of retirement JUST to play for their team.
Yeah it’s honestly funny that Gene thought arguably the greatest actor in cinema would come of retirement just to play him.
Can’t believe they played him like tht I just started to forgive him for realizing who Barry rlly is sure he’s a killer but he has a heart too!!!!
The Merry Wives of Windsor.
It's great watching this scene back knowing how it all turns because your watching Gene dig his own grave
I said it in another video but it really seems like Jim was willing to deal with Gene/$250K outside of the law. But Gene/gene’s ego still willing to let Barry be seen as a “sympathetic soul” pushed Jim to have Gene put in jail.
I find it hilarious, of the idea that Marky mark is scared of the woods 😂
❤ how strict can Gene be real or extremely 😊
Come on girl you got walkers all around ya they’re in the wooooooooooooooooods
I would meet Mark at the Four Seasons....In Beverly Hills. Heck I would meet him up in his suite if that's what he wants. Now I'm not saying that I'm into men. I'm just saying......It's friggin Mark. You have to be open minded sometimes.
My brother whos never watched the show thought the thing that happened after they went to the hotel was very obvious.
As in it not being real.
That's why it worked. They fed red meat to Gene's overblown ego. He was too high too see through it or walk away.