They're Here... | The Mandela Catalogue Vol. 2 Reaction
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CZcams's scariest analog horror series, The Mandela Catalogue, is back with volume two! So we're back on the couch to do some general theorizing and see how much of this story we can piece together.
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0:00 - The Sussy Banter
10:50 - Nothing is Worth The Risk...
54:12 - The Witty Wrap Up
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“It seems Matt has started using ‘Sussy’, let’s fix that with a controlled shock.”
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Omg I was just watching Jacks play through of SL an this was the entire comment section! What a throw back!
@@diSSonanceternal GIVE ME MOTIVATION
@@gnilbis7859 *I A M T H E S T O R M T H A T I S A P P R O A C H I N G ! ! !*
Fun Theory: The woman who called them herself is already an alternate who's still learning to work with the human language. Notice how she misheard what Adam asked "we can do tonight" as "we can do TWO nights," before responding "Can you do three nights?"
The woman’s voice actor was the same as ceasars mum so I think that it was her luring them there it’s also the same house as ceasars
She ALSO says "I appreciate this more than you can think" instead of "more than you could know," so I think you're on the right track!
I do feel that this could hold some ground
This while thing was freakin' ominous. Since the beginning, so many of the themes from Season 1 kept showing back up. The voice from "Overthrone" saying "Wake up Adam" like it did with Joseph. Jonah clearly showing that just being near the house gave him an "overwhelming sense of dread" like the police officer in "Intruder Alert." The strange, unfitting text in the closed captions that read "Patients report multiple sleepless nights after their symptoms became apparent. It is not difficult to avoid, however. The patient must try to actively seek it out." The oddly placed children's animated Bible scene with Eve giving Adam the apple as the disguised Lucifer watches, decieving them and smiling after Adam says, upon eating it, that "suddenly I feel kinda scared" which also shows up in the closed captions. All the way up to the end, where it seems like Jonah, after leaving Adam behind and thus "betraying" (arguably) him, begins to suffer from the effects of M.A.D (or possibly just really strong guilt) as he pulls off to the side of the road.
Side Question: Does anyone know if there's a way to translate whatever is going on at with the face, or is that just a garbled mess?
@@invertedghostgames9899 I agree!! especially about the M.A.D. idea:D
about the house: did the first house have the "cat" door as well? it might be the same house from ep1 but the layout looks different: I believe that the idea that she is an alternate might be correct-and the "overwhelming sense of dread" might be a shared fact between houses "haunted" by alternates-but I'm not too sure about the "same house" thing🤔
(plus no I have no clue how to solve the gibberish >.> sorryyy)
That "OH MY GOD BEHIND YOU" scene had me so jumpy, this one wigged me out so much. It reminded me of the Dr. Who creatures that would steal a persons' voice and make them repeat their last words over and over, which gave me nightmares for...a while
Ugh that episode fucked me up
hey, who turned out the lights?
Wait which Dr who episode was that
@@artifex2.080 “Silence in the Library” and “Forest of the Dead” - season 4, episodes 8 and 9 with David Tennant as the Doctor. Two of my favourite Doctor Who episodes, for sure!
The creatures that gave me nightmares were the mannequins and Weeping Angels
A note: "Error 333" is also a fake alert made to trick users into thinking their computer has crashed/has a virus. I think that could be significant but the angel number idea is quickly overtaking that idea for me considering all the religious themes in the series so far
The amount of biblical references in the series is just too obvious to ignore. The animated children's Bible cartoon isn't just there for no reason. They're there to tell the story. Even the names of the characters refer back to the Bible. Adam, the first man, and Jonah, the man who ignored his assignment and was punished, are used to expand the lore.
It could easily be both of those things though. A code tricking you into thinking it's something that it's not is very reminesent of the alternates so I could see it being both.
Angel Number 333 also (in the biblical context) signifies encouragement to make better choices in life.
@@chucklenuts2294 a theory is that the “woman” who called adam and jonah was eve, who told adam to also eat the apple (iirc) it would fit with the biblical stuff
@@xthax9718 probably
Also interesting to note, Jonah is a biblical character known for refusing to witness to the sinful people God sent him to; therefore leading to him being swallowed by the whale.
I hear Jonah and immediately think of dying light 2
@@junkoenoshima6756 based
yeah Adam, Jonah, Mark, and Cesaer are all biblical names
That's the background of that name? Why do religious people still name their kids "Jonah" then? That's like naming your kid "Anakin".
@@bluelfsuma It's because later in the story, God rescues Jonah from the whale, which renews his faith and so he goes and preaches to the people to repent from their sins, like he was supposed to do in the first place. Even that part doesn't go so well, because afterwards he goes to watch the city from a distance, waiting for God to punish them for their sins. Then, when nothing happens, because they actually did repent and God forgave them, he throws a hissy fit about it. Then God points out that he literally just forgave Jonah in the same way, and that He is completely in control since, y'know, He's God, and Jonah finally gets the point.
But also, it can mean "dove" in Hebrew, so that might be why some people like it.
“This house isn’t anything we’ve seen so far”, MatPat says as they pull into the driveway of the house from the first Mandela Catalogue volume.
I know right!! Everyone who I've seen react to it, does not even mention it. even the basement and hallway is exactly the same. So it has to be the same house!!
Wait guys,dont worry,the alternate is gregory,look at him!
There's also the picture of the kids in front of the church that MatPat said he hasn't seen before even though it was featured in the episode with the first 2 victims
@@PshychedPlaysPS2 jacksepticeye is the only CZcamsr I've seen who noticed it, which is surprising because he's the last person I'd suspect of having good observation skills lol
I realized it as soon as they showed the room with the two doors in the exact same angle they showed it in the first volume, so obvious
The "OH MY GOD BEHIND YOU" thing sounds like an alternate trying to pinpoint what Adam's fears are so that it may prey on him
I think it was an alternate trying to get him to turn around, since like the tape said it said "dont open your eyes when it feels like the man in the corner is directly in your face"
I'm willing to believe this theory that he's trying to learn Adam's fear. This must be why it tries it multiple times when it initially doesn't trigger much of a response from Adam, so it tries and tries again to invoke anything, which only makes Adam angry getting him to yell
Bombshell:
Adam is the "missing child" the "intruder" abducts, causing the mother to end her life from being "distressed at the sight of her missing child." Which is why he is asked if he remembers, and it shows the hanging mother in the T.V. Screen.
Addendum: If Adam IS the supposed abducted child, then that means the alternates are not harming the kids, but using them as a means to psychologically harm the parents. But this raises the question of: "Where do they take the kids?"
Also, remember that Alternates feed on FEAR and that Jonah is horribly distressed during the last few moments, while Adam is just generally pissed off.
A+ theory my dude, props
Regarding your addendum and your question of "where do they take the kids", this isn't confirmed of course I'm not completely sure about this, but at least from what I gathered watching Intruder Alert, I thought the intruder somehow made the mother hallucinate her child being gone, in order for her to believe the baby was kidnapped so she would commit suicide, because as far as we know, this is how alternates lead you to death, like how Mark was driven to suicide due to being tormented by the alternate in his home. I also believe this is the case due to the neighbor's report to the police: "Prolonged child-like crying followed by a loud crack". They never said the crying stopped. Only that it was followed by a crack, i.e the snap of her neck.
I think that the intruder is protecting the children from the alternates, Yes he is a psychopath. Because why would the Alternates "psychologically harm the parents" and only the parents?
it seems petty. The Intruder is some how different from the other Alternates, But hey thats just a theory, a Film theory!
they take the kids to mcdonalds
@@oldveryveryoldmanfromthe1900s banger theory my guy
If you suspect a doppelganger has replaced Matpat...
Tell him FNAF: Security Breach has updated. If he has a minor breakdown and starts theory-crafting, it's Matpat.
Ah but now the doppelganger's seen this comment and knows how to react to that... we'll have to come up with something else, and keep it a secret
@@mustachemiss1983 That's why I picked FNAF! NO ONE could fake a minor aneurysm while being so happy and focused at the same time, the way Matpat would. The announcement of new FNAF lore could probably wake up Matpat from a coma (knock on wood cause I don't want Matpat or anyone else to fall into a legit coma)
A new lore announcement for FNAF would wake ME from a coma
No, tell him that FNaF World update 3 or Endless Mode to FFPS finally came out. That would not only be right up his alley, but also much more unexpected.
@@tegandumpleton3360 Just show him a clip of Music Man. If he reacts appropriately, we'll know.
_"legend has it, if you say 'matpat' into a mirror three times, he will appear, and scream _*_'MUUUSIC MAAAN'_*_ loudly behind you and then leave. It's all he does; that's it."_
😨
I did it
What do I do if he doesn’t stop
@@tacotuesday4798 listen closely, and be ready to lose your life when you hear the voice glitches.
@@gamersforthewin420Gaming ok then
Well at least I’ll die a theorist
I done it at 3AM last night...
Now he appears at 3AM
Every night
😨
I thought the cat lady being an alternate was pretty obvious from the beginning. Like from her reassuring that there is no alternate and it was just a cat to paying 500$ a night. Like those are some big red flags that I detected immediately
she also mistook jonah saying tonight as two-nights
@@DaddySolairee also saying that this helped her more than you can think, instead of more than you could know
The Alternate have bad grammars lol
@@jepjep6740 do they have alternate school?
@@stickmation6651 Yeah, it's called the "Sussy Bakie School"
the gps was considered “useful” because counties affected by alternates (Mandela, Bythorne and the other two) outlawed anything that uses radio or things that can produce frightening imagery. It’s why the radio isn’t on.
Car radios usually don't have screens, and it was on at the end so they just didn't have it on at the start
Yeah I was kinda annoyed when he was laughing during those scenes because if you pay attention to what's being said it's more than two "grifters" in the early ages of GPS technology. Sure that's clear by the end of the video but if you pay attention to what they're saying it's being implied that they find it "useful" because the technology is outlawed, at the very least in Mandela but quite likely the entire world at this point and it's dark tech that most people don't have.
(one does have to ask how many traffic accidents there would be in a world where rearview mirrors can't exist though)
and on the way from the house, the guy has the radio on if you listen carefully
@@Goldenkitten1 Also even if that wasn't the case I know fairly old adults who have only recently used GPS and act like that. Like they simply never cared to use it before because they had grown up with maps, decided to try it out, and then realise how useful it is. Weird thing to laugh at even if you can't remember that it is outlawed.
@@gavinsfriend1431 Very true, everyone thought it was amazing once GPS got good enough to be reliable. Either way I was just kinda annoyed that he spent half the video making fun of the acting and stuff, completely talking over lore on a channel supposedly devoted to picking up on those bits to make a theory. I mean there's a reason they have an opening and closing devoted to just joking around so it doesn't interfere with the theorizing itself. I wouldn't care as much if he hadn't missed A LOT of what they were saying while joking.
Ok hear me out. So in the first one like matpat pointed out they say "If someone having an encounter with an alternate calls for help, don't pick up, nothing is worth the risk. You might reveal your fear" When Jonah picks up he reveals to the alternate that his fear is Adam dying. Adam doesn't seem to die but the alternate seems to trick Jonah into thinking he did at the end in the car.
this is exactly why jonah gets hunted at the end, adam showed nothing but hatred and fearlessness towards the alternates, while jonah did the dumbest thing to do in their presence which is tell them exactly what youre afraid of, its also why it flashes "who are you running from?" the alternate is actually curious if jonah is running from adam or running from the alternates considering it heard their entire arguement.
Sorry a month later but, when did he reveal his fear is adam dying? Tried going through it again fast. You mean the convo with adam at the end?
@@tes33720 He doesn't say it explicitly but you can see throughout the video that he wants adam to be safe and get out of the house throughout the video. I think in the car the alternate or whatever it is definitely played into this fear of his.
@@BitrateBilly jonah also from bible
One detail this episode brings that's small, yet makes it so much more terrifying for me, is the inclusion of alternates not only being known by the general population, but they talk about them as if it's just a normal thing
Good observation
Bro Alternates have been around since the 1980s and it’s 2009 currently
@@thaimapping
I think the Christian show suggested they've been around since B.C, but I guess to be fair they've only been public knowledge since the 80's? Idk, at the very least they've been officially address by the government by then. But that does make me wonder why they've waited this long to start attacking- like I get the Gabriel "angel"/tv intruder (I got a feeling they're one in the same, cause the government doesn't acknowledge that one as an Alternate) because analog TV has only just gotten popular enough to exist in basically every home in America.
But I guess it might be true that they only existed since the 80's if the "angel" is making them somehow, which could possibly be the case if Mathew is right about the whole "they have to seek it out" thing meaning that people are being turned into alternates.
Tldr, I kinda invalidated my original statement with the theory of Alternates being people that the "angel" changed
Matpat literally said that
@@birdstudios978 I'm aware
53:40 He threw his Phone to avoid the Alternate that influenced Adam.
You can tell by the Audio that he's severely distraught and stressed when he lost Adam, to the point where he's crying and sobbing. You hear a Grunt, like he threw something from the car or from himself.
A few seconds earlier, you hear him being Influenced by the Alternate in his Phone, so in an attempt to avoid contact with that Alternate he threw his Phone somewhere so he didn't have to hear it talk.
Optimistic hypothesis.
Really? I thought the alternate was communicating through the GPS device. I mean, they were outlawed for the very reason that alternates could possibly use them as a medium for abducting/killing people, right? Plus, you can see in the top corner (only slightly due to Mat's face-cam) that our imagery for that scene is coming from the GPS device, and then there's that "ERROR 333" followed by "YOU LEFT HIM BEHIND" and then at the bottom of the device is what the alternate is repeatedly whispering to Jonah: "What are you running from?" Given all of that, I don't think Jonah threw his phone away, but I definitely think he ditched the car because of it's GPS being hacked by the alternate. Considering the devices have all been outlawed and destroyed, and that these boys have no money, then the GPS likely came installed in whatever car they ended up stealing. If it's installed in the car in some form, then they likely wouldn't be able to remove it without tools. If the alternate had hacked Jonah's phone, he could've rolled the window down and toss it out while driving at high speed on that desolate road, ensuring the phone is destroyed from the force and momentum it would end up striking the ground with. But instead he willingly ditches the car.
Not to mention that, if everything with a screen has been outlawed, then modern-day iPhone's and the like would not exist, or at the very least, Adam and Jonah would not have them. Plus, the two boys are on the run from the law, so having smart phones - easily trackable devices - would be stupid. They would likely be using burner phones, which are cheap (again, they're clearly broke), easy to get ahold of and easy to replace, very difficult to track, and they don't have the "smart" screens necessary for the alternates to use them as mediums.
Walkie talkie
I dont think they use phone
@@Nothing.... We know that they do now based on vol 4, but during the house visit they did definitely use walkie talkies. It may in fact be that same Walkie Talkie, my theory is that when Adam goes into the basement or does whatever, the alternate at some point gets a hold of Adam's walkie and is trying to corrupt Jonah through it rather than the gps system as suggested by someone else in this comment thread and throws it to escape it.
12:39 This dialogue bit seems to be a massive clue.
“His soul roams the house still”
“I wanna make sure he finds peace in whatever realm he resides in”
The dialogue is choppy, and the way she describes things aren’t usual for a human.. she seems to have underlying intentions that makes her give out clues in the way she talks.
Probably an alternate or another entity
superstition DOES exist
The weird thing is that I've heard people say things like that so I glossed over it
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE WOMAN TALKING WAS AN ALTERNATE LURING THEM INTO THAT HOUSE, LIKE A TRAP? That would , make sense though, also, in the credits, it has "woman" in quotations, also implying she is an alternate.
When the “OH MY GOD BEHIND YOU” line comes up in Jonah’s voice, there is no speaker for that line. Whether that means it’s not Jonah speaking or there’s something in the radio, I feel it’s important
Exactly, the spiritbox STOPS scanning channels when it happens which means that SOMETHING ELSE is using the radio.
also Jonah doesn't seem to understand why Adam gets upset at him, as well as it being said in the exact same tone repeatedly- it's also played right after its said that [redacted] causes distortion, so it might be whatever that thing is
It is 2 in the morning and I was looking at the comments before watching the video….the fact that my name is Jonah and what I’m assuming is a character in the show named Jonah made me realize I will wait until the morning
I agree with that, as you can see at the end. I would like to say probably the TV guy can travel through different spectrums as in radio frequency TV frequency and so that leads at the end when Jonah offed himself being on the overwhelmed and regretting his mistake of leaving Adam behind. And also like you said in other videos they use psychological warfare on their victims.
@@death_shield_offical I agree as well, the alternates have been stated to be in other spectrums so radio waves should count,it would make sense if an alternate were to travel through radio waves to Jonah by using adams radio.
Once that Garden of Eden Bible cartoon plays, Mat calls out that one of our characters is named Adam.
However, does he think about the Biblical significance of a character named Jonah? In a series with such blatant Christian themes, it's worth pointing out the parallels.
In the Bible, Adam is lured to do something that ultimately ends up hurting him by a woman. A woman, who was first lured by an otherworldly entity.
Our character Adam is clearly lured by the entity telling him to open his eyes, but also by the woman who owns the cat. Could this be a trap of some kind?
Jonah is a little less obvious, but you see the connections quickly enough. In the Bible, Jonah is instructed by God to help a land of sinners. Jonah is afraid and flees. God then punishes him for this cowardice by allowing him to be swallowed by a whale.
Our character Jonah abandons his friend and flees, and he then has an otherworldly voice shaming him for being a coward
Obviously, these are two people in the Bible who lived centuries apart, and I'm not sure what this would mean for the story, but it's worth pointing out. It doesn't seem like an accident that Jonah also has a biblical name.
This!!
I haven’t seen anyone point this out yet and you’re absolutely right!! It was bound to happen that some of the parallels between the Bible story and Mandela are overlapping for a reason. Maybe we’ll get other biblical references. I knew Bible study was gonna be useful someday 😼🤝
Saying that God punished Jonah for his cowardice is a bit strong. We Christians prefer the phrase, "shown the error of his ways."
@@rokeYouuer They told it how it is
@@gregoryvelasco2988 Fascinating. Have you actual read the book of Jonah and made an informed decision, or did you just arbitrarily decide to be an edgelord in the CZcams comments section?
I’m almost positive Adam’s mother was the “distraught at the sight of her missing child” woman, and that’s why he has a vendetta to get to the bottom of things. It would also make sense with the imagery of her flickering on the tv when Adam was watching
And don't forget the "You don't remember me?" part. Adam is 100% the kidnapped infant.
I does make me wonder where they're brought though. When Intruder Alert came out, it did mention that Bythorne County was affected by the missing children, so it's possible he was born and raised in Bythorne County until his untimely demise as part of the Bythorne Paranormal Society
For the record the quote went "missing INFANT" minor detail and utterly pointless difference i know. But my OCD forced me to comment on it.
that’s what I thought too watching this!!
@@donairechristianp also with the creepy Music box music
I have a theory: Adam IS the kid that got stolen, implying that the 'her' they were talking about was his mother, who hung herself. And the 'you don't remember me' on the TV being intruder saying "you don't remember me stealing you" so yeah that's my theory.
I think the 'her' he is referring to is Adams younger sister, the girl in the picture, which is why Adam is so adamant about investigating further and why he wasn't afraid and unaffected by the m.a.d.
@@CodeeXD Ah, that's possible.
I think Adam was the child cause around 51:00 you see a picture of the hanging mother in the tv for a split second
I’m from the future this theory is correct
@@CodeeXD The photo of the kid and his sister in front of the church was mark heathcliff and his sister, it was in exhibition to show that he practiced religion, making him susceptible to M.A.D.
Interesting how at the end in the acting credits, "woman" is in inverted commas implying that its not actually a woman, but something pretending to be one.
That is for sure a good point, I just had to ask about the phrase “inverted commas” haha
@@stormhunter2627 inverted commas means single quotes (')
I assumed that was the name of the episode, but that makes sense.
@@portal6347 Even so, the credits for "Woman" are in quotes.
so its either an alternate or a bunch of transphobia :D /j
When Jonah says the more he looks at the house, the more he doesn’t want to be there, it reminds me of when the police were too afraid to investigate that one house where the mom offed herself because her baby went missing.
I wonder what causes the overwhelming sense of dread, could it be another force?
@@plexyglass429 natural instinct to survive, i suppose
@@CallMeSuara yep, it's called natural selection. A person who is scared is more likely to survive and pass on their genes compared to a person who is brave and not afraid of dying.
@@inigochicano true, but it’s portrayed as like a supernatural feeling. Like doing something they’ve done before many times but now it’s just feels entirely wrong, for a reason they can’t explain
also how mark said he didn’t like cesar’s house
The repeating “oh my god behind you!” was so effective! It starts funny and suddenly becomes increasingly creepy as you realize it’s repeating itself. So good!
Fun Fact - 333 for angel numbers means “encouragement in making the correct choices in life” so when Adam says in the basement “I made the right choice” and when Jonah leaves him, all reflects back to the choices they both made which they thought were right.
and that on the gps camera it flashes, almost like the alternate is making fun of his choice, saying he should've tried to save him
Interesting......
Matpat: "yaaaas, sleigh!"
Mat: "one day you will have to answer for your actions, and god will not be so forgiving"
Mirror Mat did NOT come to play today, oh my GOD
@Don't read profile photo ok
@Don't read profile photo okay
Where’s the timestamp 😭
@@arturintete2461 4:26
"the yassification of the american workforce" is one of the funniest phrases i have EVER heard
What's so creepy is that the "Nothing is worth the risk" message was regarding a phone call, and it's a phone call by the "woman" which sends Jonah and his friend down the Mandela rabbit hole.
The sheer amount of SASS matpat was throwing at Matt was hilarious 😂. Also 'you have eyes, you can read' was amazing.
I thought it was mat, like Matilda
@@guyferrari8124 matt is a guy
@@gingerdog8203 yeah I know that now
5:02
It's always a pleasure to watch these videos until I realize right before bed that I'm
1. overly imaginative
2. horrified of the dark
3. emotionally unstable
and 4. easily scared
same
Wait till you have things looking like people in your room like for example a hanged up jacked or clothing over a tall chair or just two coincidental reflections looking like eyes staring back at you
same here
You called me out and for what
this was me last night i literally couldnt sleep
[SPOILERS]
That "OH MY GOD BEHIND YOU" repeating, was such a cruel trick by the creator of the series; but god I love it.
My back is against the wall :) so nothing is behind me- unless...uh he's inside the-
@@junkoenoshima6756 Better start digging.
@@junkoenoshima6756 you are right if by he you mean me, your walls are cozy
@@junkoenoshima6756 Entrance to The Backdoors
@@yeahbuddy7217 well depends how you see cozy, since my walls are air tight and as such can be filled with slow acting poison in the form of a clouds that will be activated by a switch and if you aren't human then I guess- enjoy your new home.
The whole talk about following “the shepherd” after the scene with Adam and Eve kinda primed me to think it’s a biblical analogy; whoever’s talking being the serpent who’s tempting Adam away from the shepherd, a common metaphor for God, with presumably false promises.
35:46 This talk about the biblical snake anatomy was the best part of this story.
I swear Mirror Mat is getting funnier with each episode.
Totally
Absolutely
He seems like he's coming out of his shell and getting more confident making jokes with every episode and I love it
@@tiberseptim8330 yeah, just like how Chris was so reserved at the beginning as well. It's great!
FR he’s so iconic
I love that they replaced “the witty banter” with “the sussy banter”
lol i noticed that too
I didn't noticed lol, a very sussy move there
For anyone curious, the image at 51:05 that matpat couldn't figure out is the picture of the two children in front of the church from the first volume of Mandela catalogue :)
And i think it’s supposed to be mark heathcliff and his sister
Theory: the invader is betraying the alternates and is taking children to train them so that they will not be affected by the mind wrenching urge to commit suicide when encountering an alternate.
invader:I don't to be evil anymore
alternates:He/she betrayed us kick him/her out of here
@@KuromiScarlet5030...it.
Never did I think I'd hear MatPat exclaiming, "Yasssss Santa, ride that slayyyy," while sussily snapping his fingers (1:37)...and never did I think I'd love it as much as I do
SAME.
“Sussily” is definitely the weirdest thing I’ve read in a while. We’re reaching a point where “suspiciously” just loses over half its letters
I could FEEL mirrormat cringing
Remember, this is the same guy that said "I just simultaneously whipped and nae naed"
@Don't read profile photo i read your name and guess what? I saw that you were spamming comments on this video! And guess what, ITS ANNOYING AS HECK when people do that. You should stop 💀🔫
THEORY: the red, yellow, and green dot indicators on the GPS bar coincide with how close to Variants/how screwed the characters are at the time. For example, most of the beginning drive the indicator is green- meaning they're safe. When they're parked outside the house and it's chill- it's yellow, meaning something is nearby... And when that scream happens over Comms, or at the very end when the car is pulled over with hazard lights on- we have a red indicator, and fully present activity from the Variant.
I think it's safe to assume that dude's dead. Lol rip.
I want to believe Jonah is still alive and simply have mental breakdown.
@@L16htW4rr10r low key wanna believe this as well but I’ve seen some others saying he probably contracted M.A.D. And killed himself, there is a low chance he didn’t tho.
@@cristinaestrella Honestly I'm confused on how did the uploader (not the channel owner) found these videos. The cops wouldn't make a move if they didn't know any of this exist
So, I want to believe that Jonah sent this videos/photos to the cops to relinquished his guilt over leaving Adam.
I dunno, Jonah seemed like a good and reasonable guy and I want him to be a better person.
@@L16htW4rr10r that could be possible but From what I’ve seen at the beginning of the video, both Jonah and Adam are labeled as “Victims” even though it’s not clear they’re actually dead, and it just might be the authorities believing neither of them survived.
As for how they obtained the footage, it’s possible that Jonah went missing and ran off in an attempt to get away from the car (the alternate’s voice) and he abandoned the vehicle completely leaving the gps footage behind.
But yeah I agree, Jonah was an interesting character who seemed like a genuinely good guy who wanted to live. Hopefully, he comes back in the future!
@@cristinaestrella To be a victim, you do not have to die, you just have to be attacked. Therefore I give Jonah a reasonable chance at living.
As Jonah left Adam for death,
the voice repeats the words you left him to die, and you can hear Jonah screaming for the voice to shut up, revealing his fear to the alternate, from what I think it is.
Yea, and I also think at some point in the car Jonah throws his phone out the window, which the Alternative was most likely talking to him from it.
@@blueberry5063 Yeah, true
Usually more exposure to monsters lessens the fear they provoke but the more I see those distorted, uncanny faces the more it frightens me
I feel like they kind of treat Alternates like we have and still treat living with Covid. At first everyone was really scared and worried, it took over our lives for a while, but now we just live with it and the way they were like “What a cat alternate now?” Is the same as “Oh a new strain of Covid.”
I think the creator said he based Mandela Catalogue on his experience with Covid. It's probably supposed to be like that. Even with a small portion of people who think it's all a hoax, somehow.
I think it's more like the start of Covid. For the countries that started with the Covid pandemic they treated it seriously with strict lockdown initiatives but for the most of us we were like "What is this Covid disease happening overseas. It probably isn't that big of a deal". Just like how they ordered people in Mandela to smash their screens and mirrors, but for others around them it seemed hard to believe.
the difference is a cat alternate is probably dangerous
The creator probably played a decent amount of phasmophobia
Except one is a cold flue and another are Doppelganger creatures from another planet murdering everyone 🧍🏻♂️
mirror matt was KILLING IT with the comebacks during the "sussy" banter, i was laughing out loud
yas yass in slay
I STARTED DYING AT THE YESS SANTA RIDE THAT SLAY
At this point, I just adore Adam and Jonah's characters. They're really funny and kinda relatable when it comes to this kinda stuff. But this is Mandela Catalogue after all. Bad stuff happens to good characters.
yea, i really enjoyed the first bit of the mandela catalouge, but they made me really fall in love with it
OK, there are clearly at least 3 entities in this episode: the intruder, the “wake up” alternate (which is very similar to Gabriel in overthrown), and “woman” in the beginning, a type 1 doppelgänger alternate. The more I look at it, the more I feel that they’re not really all on the same side. It is implied that Adam was the abducted child, but somehow he managed to come back perfectly fine, even immune to alternates’ mental distortion effects. Then, the wake up alternate said “you followed the shepherd, follow me instead”, which makes me think that maybe the intruder is on the same side of humanity, acting like a “shepherd” to protect them. This also has biblical reference to it, like “the lord is my shepherd, I shall not want”, and given that Gabriel/wake up alternate is probably Satan, can this be a battle between Satan and God?
I do not actually think that the women was a doppelgänger alternate, I think that she’s the same entity as the one with the elongated face that whispers the gibberish at Adam in that dark room, I’m pretty sure she was in the house the entire time, and called them from the same room that she talked to Adam in, her whole purpose was to get Adam into Marks old house
Or the intruder is Satan and the alternates are angels. Satan's giving these kids the ability to resist the mind breaking effects the angels inflict on people.
@@diggitydog998 you are actually right! In vol 3, we’re shown that an alternate with impossible physical features can also mimic different voices, so yeah that’s probably the same one
I believe the code *"Error 333"* was also a scam code. It was one of those codes that would pop up on people's computers, they'd click on it, and they would get hacked and scammed. So the fact that when they were having camera trouble, and it flashed *"Error 333"* makes me think that was the alternate trying to trick them in order to take advantage of them.
especially considering 333 is an angel number and angels here seem to be replaced/impersonated by alternates
I searched error 333 too, it was interesting
woah thats a cool theory
To add on to this theory I say that "its" trying to get Jonah to go back by making him regret leaving, by (using error 333 the angel number) making him think he "sinned" for doing so.
Or this is all useless and "its" trying to make Jonah insane to trick him into doing something later.
The word "error" paired with "333" makes it sound like a mockery of the Holy Trinity, which supports MatPat's Satan theory.
When Adam and Jonah were arguing at 45:27 , it felt so real
Like you can really feel Jonah's fear and that he's serious
hEy tHaTs mE!1!
Yeah which was ultimately Jonah's undoing. If you show then your fear it's over
@@CodeeXD yeah,, it's kinda sad tho. He just cared about his friend 😓
It was REALLY good acting. Gotta give it to 'em, those were powerful lines. Also thanks for the timestamp, I would love to watch it over and over again. *UGH* ITS JUST SO GOOD
@@antipop.mp4 it really was! I rewatched it too
Really quickly: all numbers are “angel numbers”, they just have different significances. 333 is just as meaningful as 827 in regards to being an angel number.
All i knew was 555 is an angel number,thanks for info
111 is one of the more prominent ones, I think. Probably because of clocks.
The only thing that really spooked me about this series so far is the, “keep your eyes closed while they’re inches from your face” line lol or something like that lol that one chilled me lol
It should be noted, the “Mandela Catalogue: Vol 1” found footage took place in 1992. This one takes place in 2009. That’s 17 years. If this house IS the same house as the one in the first video, having a cat door isn’t actually that weird since a change like that could have happened in that time. Keeping in mind the time difference between when Victim 1 & 2 were killed vs when Victim 3 & 4 were helps a lot when putting everything together.
it's also worth keeping in mind that they're both filmed in the present day, so it's not a big stretch to assume that a cat door could've been installed sometime between videos. that, or it was always there and just wasnt shown in the first set of videos.
That's why they were talking about alternates so normally huh?
I'm guessing they've been public knowledge for a while by that time
"look behind you!" Was only said once by Jonah, and the alternate repeated it to Adam for some reason (they reflect speech). Which is why Jonah said "what did I do" confusingly when Adam told him to stop for the 4th time as if it wasn't a joke
Yes? Kinda the point
why did he say it once tho?
Yep, he the alternate def Repeated what he said. I think whemever Jonah tried to speak, The alternate stepped in somehow and just repeated what he said
perhpas the alternate trying to figure out Adam's fear
@@sydssolanumsamsys a prank
When the old cartoon scenes come, you know its about to get creepy.
Mirror Mat: So Sussy..
MatPat: Let us motivate Mirror Mat to change his vocabulary with a controlled shock.
It sounds like the “you don’t remember me” might mean Adam has seen the invader person on the tv before as a baby, suggested by the music. This could be the reason why he isn’t affected by the alternates. It’s said that he chases down alternates, and is unaffected by the encounters, and why we see him survive the alternate in the house to go down to the basement. Maybe children captured by the invader are unaffected by alternates. Just a thought.
I commented this like a week ago
@@chakatsi3476 good for you
@@bobkys7916 Yeah I know
@@chakatsi3476 Its such obvious information given by the new video, its not groundbreaking or anything the video literally spoonfeeds this information to you.
@@nym9045 That was before I watched the video I meant that I commented this on the actual video by Alex kister when it came out, I'm just saying that I said the same thing earlier.
Simple theory I thought of while reading the comments:
Adam and Jonah are both biblical characters.
Adam, in the bible, was lured to do something that lead him to be hurt by a woman, which was lured by an evil entity. In the video,
Adam and Jonah get a call from a woman, whose voice sounds strikingly similar to Ceaser's mom (they both have the same voice actors as well), who apparently died to an alternate, which could mean she is an alternate. To support the theory that she is an alternate, when she asked when they are available, Adam said "We can do tonight", which leads to the woman saying "Can you do three nights?". This could mean she misheard "tonight" as "two nights", since the alternates are still learning human speech.
As for Jonah, in the bible, was a character who refused to help God by not helping the sinners, as Jonah is too afraid to do so. This act leads God to make Jonah get swallowed by a whale. Jonah, in the video, was too scared to go in the house, and ultimately left Adam to die. After he is leaving the house, the "alternate" shows up on the car radio, mentally torturing Jonah. At the end, Jonah leaves the car and grunts. The "AGH" could either mean him hurting himself, throwing up or doing something that requires force, such as climbing, jumping or lifting something.
This theory was made by amalgamating some of the comments and adding a few sprinkles of my own ideas!
You might be into something here. GPS signal was green when no alternates were around and red when in direct contact with them.
One alternate was with Jonah when attacked or when torturing him.
@@playknightboy when they get to the house the gps signal turns yellow
I think this is further supported by how if the ‘intruder’ is the devil trying to imitate God, or more specifically Jesus, it would make sense that he would try to imitate, or call back to (how he says you do not remember me) some relationship with Adam. Which may have something to do with how Adam seems to be immune to the intruder’s attempts at making him an alternate?
I was thinking this as well!
Mark is also a Biblical figure, and Caesar is mentioned in the Bible as a historical figure as well as in Dante's Inferno. We know Caesar was historically betrayed by his trusted friend, which lead to his death. Could this parallel to Mark sending Caesar to his home to turn on the security cameras and ultimately leading to him become one of the first victims? The Biblical Mark is one of the 12 "chosen" disciples, he is not only a major player in the events of the New Testament, but he was also the author of one of the 4 Gospels. This could point to the reason that Mark seems to appear several times throughout the series, even after he is revealed as the second victim: he is still a major player.
whoever voiced adam and jonah did a fantastic job. they both sound incredible. and jonah's whole breakdown when they start hearing the cat is absolutely phenomenal.
Here's my theories about this video (why did I watch this at 9.30 pm):
*The woman is definitely not a real person. This can be understood from the video saying "woman" in quotes in credits and I think it was her that spoke to Adam at the basement saying "nobody will help you" and stuff.
*The intruder might be behind the alternates. Maybe he doesn't just abduct kids, he abducts everyone he can. But people only realize the kids going missing because the intruder converts the adults into alternates. I think this because I think some of the flashing faces on the tv and especially the ending face that is upside down are people that are trapped inside the tv.
*I thought that the upside down face might be Adam, but I'm not su sure anymore because of him talking with the intruder at the end. He probably did something that ruined whatever the intruder was planning, assuming that the guy that said "what did you do" was the intruder. Maybe he closed the tv or something right when the intruder got out so that he would trap the intruder in the outside world. But he wasn't expecting there to be the alternate woman there too, so they do whatever to Adam, maybe throwing him into the tv or something, and we can see the intruder escaping via the tv at the last frame before it becomes blue. F for Adam, may the ghost cat be on his side.
*The devil, or whatever the "i will fool the shepherds" person is, seems to see this intruder as an opponent because it already tricked most of humanity into believing in its religions, but the intruder is killing everyone and interfering with whatever plan it has. I think that it seemed kinda angry towards what the alternates and the intruder were doing and it tried to save Adam and convince him to go the other way.
*Maybe the shepherds person was the one talking to Jonah at the end, to say like why didn't you leave with Adam, why are you running, go back, etc. It might also be the intruder speaking through his car gps telling him that he's coming for him. He was numbered as a victim at the start after all. Maybe he died off-video or something. I think the intruder speaking is more probable because we saw him escape and he might be trying to say "what are you running from? im literally with you rn".
But that's just a theory, A FILM THEORY! Also a waste of time because it's 10 pm now and i spent way too much time writing this. Also why didn't I use reddit? Anyway hope it doesn't go to waste :) Probably will
Interesting
Some of your theories is kinda similar to mine
1 notice how the lady called and she said she was on a business trip but the house was completely empty with no furniture almost giving an idea that she may be an alternate trying to lure jonah and adams in. The more i think about it she said she heard a cat noise but she never actually investigated it knowing she would be safe by saying “it might not be an alternate, it could be my cat soul” or something like that . 2 i think towards the end he offed himself because he couldn’t take that kind of pressure on him. Plus you can hear him crying at the beginning of that little clip.
did he or was that noise him throwing up at the fear or soemthing??
notice the caller also misheard when the guy said we can do tonight and she thought it was two nights and replied can you do three nights to try to get them to stay longer
it was also weird how she said she was on a business trip but at the same time she talks about hearing cat meows at her home
@@xxpinkie6730 the alternate might have the voice of her, as seen in mark's encounter, it might be the alternate's way of tricking them into a trap.
but at the same time, it could also be that they can steal the voice of people they stalk after a while
Arguably them being very casual about a years-long ongoing threat is realistic, considering the past three years
"Yeaaaah I don't think that's a real thing tbh"
there’s some people that still think COVID isn’t real lmao
They said smash mirrors, and I don't know if a car window is a part of that category, but maybe the intruder was in the censored window when they were driving.
That is what I was thinking too in the few frames before it is censored it looks like a head starting to poke up
Seriously though, as a broke dude who lives on just under $750 a month from social security somehow, I'd jump at the chance to make 1,500 to look for some whackjobs ghost cast for a couple nights.
I'm genuinely surprised Mat didn't realize that was Marks house. I mean it isn't the 1980s anymore, when he died, so it's not surprising someone else would move in and add a cat door for their cat
EXCUSE ME THAT WAS W H A T
@@DeletedUser-tn5ky yeah! It was his! All the rooms, outside, hallways, are the same! And honestly it's not surprising to me that there are alternates in a house that was once home for a few alternates with Mark in it
@@pokeponypastagirl do we even got to see Mark's house?
@@jepjep6740 yeah! We have in 3 videos already
@@pokeponypastagirl which episode?
I have a theory that Adam is still safe while Jonah got taken over, in previous parts they mention that fear is what the alternates need in order to take over people and throughout this episode Adam showed more anger and almost vengeance than fear while Jonah was fearful most of the time and then ran away, the GPS then being able to overwhelm his mind with guilt and fear. I do wonder if the woman that led Adam to seek out alternates was Eve and theory may be wrong since they're also labeled as victims but I guess victim doesn't necessarily mean death
also adam was just a dude named adam, not bible adam
@@alltomorrowsfan it's kinda obvious it was intentional when you see the parallels with our characters and their Bible counterparts
How would the alternate get him on a middle of the road tho, i doubt the alternate could take someone over only using the gps
@@zbyboggy3873 But the gps has a screen, which seems to be the only requirement for them to take over. I mean, the gps screen itself bugged out too right?
@@alltomorrowsfan both Adam and Johna are biblical figures and the entire series has had nods to biblical events, not considering the theory they are meant to be representations is pretty silly
My theory: warning:very long
the intruder, the entity in the corner and the one who's face pops up and says gibberish are the same thing, and this thing either IS the anti-christ (entity which appears in the first mandela catalogue video, overthrone), or serves it in some way.
This entity is trying to lure Adam to the house, by calling him on the phone using a presumed woman alternate with the coverup story of a ghost cat.
Adam I think is the boy who disappeared in volume 1 causing his mother to off herself, when in reality he was taken or hidden from her temporarily. This brings up a sense of revenge or curiosity in him which brings Adam to search for her/ her death cause when he grows up, with Jonah.
He probably also dislikes the police which were too scared to investigate the house where his mother died, which could be one reason for him to break the law and be on the run without caring much.
The search for his mother causes him to break the law or do something bad in his past, mentioned by the intruder in the sentence " what have you done" with his answer "I did the right thing", a small citation by Jonah saying " we don't need this attention again" and after his saying " I wish we never looked for your 'BLANK'".
I am still not sure if Adam from the bible and Adam in this story are connected, but some way they probably are.
I think the anti-christ is trying to get Adam on their side, luring him to the house and using the intruder/ taking form as the intruder.
Jonah isn't in the entity's interest, which would be backed up by the fact that they never want to enter the house because they are taken over by fear (mabye controlled by the entity?!?!? Emotion manipulation???).
Adam isn't scared of the house, because he is motivated to find his mother or the entity that killer her, and he already knows that its not just a cat.
Some proof that the entity wants Adam to join him would be that he uses the intruder in the house and says "open your eyes" and " join me, do not join the shepherd, you will find great happiness with me" ( shepherd would be an alternate term for God, the opposing side).
The video corruption and deterioration is obviously caused by the intruder, and after Adam confronts the entity which again, lured him down with the cat noise in the television, Jonah is overwhelmed by fear and leaves, being manipulated by the Intruder with the radio and then puking/dying at the end due to fear or/and a bad sensation after leaving his friend behind, which is mentioned by the entity to harass him.
Adam remains in the basement, listening to the intruder which brings up images of the time when Adam was a baby, his dead mother and another figure which seems to be the face of his mother, mabye the trapped soul or a way to attract Adam and show him what he was looking for more proof that Adam is intact the baby is that closed captions say the sentence " you don't remember me", which would mean that since he was a baby when he was taken, he doesn't remember what happened.
I think that jonah is dead, since he feared the entity which harassed him, but Adam is alive since he follows the entity and doesn't fear it, mabye he joined the entity's side.
If you have any questions comment! I will try to give some theories.
I think they are both alive probably.
I think (I'm just gonna call them by what they're big spooky parts were) the guy in the car at the end threw his phone out on the ground because the entity was talking to him through it. I think the guy in the basement is alive because he said he "did the right thing" and he has little to no reaction to it,showing that he isn't scared or affected which,is how they "get" you.
@@Eukio_isREAL volume 333’s teaser confirms Jonah’s alive. But Adam is most likely dead or turned.
@@jooyoungkang3858 Adam is prob just playing with the alternates or something
Isnt the shepherd the intruder is saying being directed to the *false* shepherd that's terrorizing this place?
The reason that they weren’t influenced by alternates in the past is because they weren’t afraid of them. Alternates rely on mental warfare to drive them insane, and can’t hurt them physically. It’s different this time because there’s an intruder here instead of an alternate, and intruders can actually physically hurt them. This is just a theory I have, and I’m not sure if most of the stuff I said is right.
Notice how the number 3 is very iconic in this series. In past episodes it’s the third image that gets scary, the third scene that gets distorted, the 333 biblical inference, the woman asking for 3 nights, and if I remember correctly, Adam and Jonah conversing with three photos.
and that camera 3 is out or not working
That's interesting, especially since these alternates are clearly demons or demonic in nature, and yet everything being related to 3, maybe a mockery of the holy trinity?
Don’t forget error 333!
also, it was 3% of people who survive an alternate encounter and 3% of people who don't commit suicide after being diagnosed with M.A.D.
also, there are a lot of theory's about adam (victim number 3) surviving! he also "resisted" the alternates attacks
53:17
This sound to be sounds like an effort sound. Like either Jonah is throwing up, being punched/stabbed, jumping off something, being pushed off something, or something similar. Jonah was either caught, or felt so guilty for leaving Adam behind that he tried to harm/off himself. Or is just so freaked out he's puking- which is a definite possibility. I don't think it's a name or any actual words, it just reminds me of a sound of pain or effort. Just "AUGH!"
Could have been an expression of anger, panic attack, anything, small yell of frustration, etc
I believe he was killed by the alternate. The gps gets red whenever there is danger nearby. The alternate clearly has control of the gps because he is talking to Jonah. He leads him to a deserted place and kills him which results in the noise and prolonged silence. This gives me the same vibe as the moon analog horror. (It has something to do with a news network but I forgot the name.)
@@thefool5460 I believe the news network/CZcams series you're looking for is called Local 57. Though I may be incorrect and I apologise if I am.
@@mister_mustache Very close. After that hint I looked it up and it's Local 58.
That's the impression I got too, there is a precedent for the alternates(?) being able to get in your head and make you off yourself.
Mirror Matt is literally so funny I really appreciate the energy he brings to the episodes
Something actually had a scary experience involving a cat. I was sleeping on the couch in our living room for a couple nights because I was getting a new bed. Each night I would hear "someone" saying hello over and over. It terrified me for three nights. I finally realized it was our cat meowing outside. I felt very dumb after that
Theory:
So Adam could belong to the 3% that are not effected by MAD right? probably when he was young he was infected by MAD at the same time that someone(mother, sister?) in his family was kidnapped by the intruder. So that could mean that those that recover from MAD have an resistance to the effects of both Alters and the Intruder. That could explain why Adam was so confident dealing with Alters before because of that resistance. Which in the end amounted to nothing in front of the Intruder.
also noted that the Intruder is trying to communicate with Adam about does he understand what its trying to show which is a picture of woman hanging (hmm totally not the first time seeing it) and also child lullaby start playing (maybe something connected to a kidnapped child in the few previous episode hmmmm) and Jonah mentioning that Adam is trying to find 'a woman' which by all the evidences it's most likely being his mother.
@@BeeCygNus I can see this as hard evidence
ngl but the intruder kinda looks like adam (victim 1)
*Mandela's impact is so important* that he even created a catalogue, truly amazing.
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49:09 when adam says what are you i think the screen flashes show everything that was the intruder and not a alternet
41:40 my man rapping like eninem
YOOOO
the phrase “the yassification of the american workforce” hit me like a punch in the gut
Timestamp?
@@zewasplays 4:45 xD
His theory about there being two factions: the fake savior and the intruder was kind of interesting to me. He said it as if they opposed each other. When listening to the whispers, the alternate says that Adam is following the Shepard instead of "god". It's possible that the intruder abducted Adam as a baby and Adam gained less fear from alternates and more tolerance of m.a.d. The intruder is like the Shepard kidnapping people and giving those people somewhat of a tolerance or knowledge, directly opposing the other faction: "god" or the fake savior. That's just something I thought of when he said "warring factions"
shepherd
so you're saying the intruder (shepherds) is trying to fight the other entity (alternate gabriel/god)?
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@@Good_Watch all according to plan
@42:45 it talks about mad / an encounter being something the patient has to actively seek and we know this is the case for adam as he chooses to stay and go to the basement. may i add though that we know this is also true for mark, in the cam footage mark had before his death we see him doing things directly opposite of what he should be doing to avoid alternates. he keeps his window open, keeps his tv on and running, walks around his house at night, and keeps making visits to a religious place of worship. all things one should NOT do. it’s like he wanted to draw an alternate whether it be subconsciously or a self sabotaging way to fulfill his own paranoia.
Following the religious references, Jonah was the person who was reluctant to fulfill his mission, but eventually does it. I wonder if he'll come back.
Maybe he’ll go back and save Adam?
That conversation where Jonah is talking to Adam about going down the stairs was really good. It was better than what I was expecting.
Yeah I felt so much emotion in it
Definitely. Idk why he paused and laughed at the last line I thought the acting was pretty good during that call.
Here's my theory. As we saw in a previous video, all TVs and screens of sorts had to be destroyed to stop the entrance of the Intruder. And at the beginning we see that Adam and Jonah are outlaws $100,000 reward on their heads, most likely from possessing GPS technology and/or knowing knowledge about the Alternates and Intruder that is a threat to national security. This more or less applies to GPS as well. In one of the scenes where it mentions "The exposure of the causes deterioration", this likely means that the GPS is being exposed the Intruder, which deteriorates the GPS and camera to the point where the microphone malfunctions. During the car trip, one of the two was surprised to see the GPS working. This takes place in 2009, and GPS had already been developed by this point, so it seems that GPS systems were also outlawed and serve as a possible emtry way for the Intruder. This leads to my next point about the ending. When Jonah seemingly drives away from the home, leaving Adam behind, the GPS starts malfunctioning and begins to mutter the words "YOU LEFT HIM TO DIE", most likely coming from the Intruder invading the GPS system. Also, the hooded figure in the house is most likely not an alternate, and instead an Intruder. In Vol. 1, we see in Mark's drawings in his story that a hooded man was in his house at night, that being the Intruder. This is most likely the same Intruder from the same house. Also the house actually is familiar, since it is the same house where Mark's friend pulls up in Vol.1, meaning this was formally Mark's house, still possessed or haunted by the presence of the Intruder.
EDIT: After doing some more looking I've now come to the conclusion that in Vol 2 and even 1 that there are both an Intruder and Alternates being spawned in at the same time. In another video, you see that the Intruder on the TV screen seemingly makes the kids and babies dissappear. There is a reason for this, as when the Intruder appears on a radio or TV, that Alternates could also be 'spawned' in. Clearly the Intruder is not the one making the kidnappings. However his presence brings in Alternates, which do the actual abduction into a different reality or 'spectrum'. In Vol 2 we saw a tall hooded figure, which resembled that if the Intruder from Vol 1. This however is not the case because I think that the hooded figure from both are actually Alternates, spawned in by the presence of the actual Intruder, since we see him near the very end. So it is now clear that both that the Intruder directly controls the actions of Alternates, which mainly only did large scale kidnappings in between the 1980s and early 90s, since their presence their presence in the modern world is very sparse and not really considered much of a threat until Adam and Jonah seemingly aggravated them, by their constant pursuit of the truth, with an Alternate and the Intruder directly encountering Adam, and seemingly murdering him, while the Intruder seems to mentally torment Jonah for driving away and abandoning his friend. That seems to be what im getting out of all of this.
Thinking of that hoodie - I figured this figure WAS Adam's Alternate, considering he wears a similar hoodie.
Also, I figured they might be outlaws because they both lost people to Alternates, and they got pinned for the disappearances/murders of said family members, because... well, sadly, it seems a very law-enforcement thing to do.. pinning the crime on some wrong-place-wrong-time kid/teen.
I believe that the woman who called about the cat is actually Torres' mother's alternate from the first story because the mom screamed and passed out, a clear indication that she was taken by an alternate and/or the intruder, since Mark was followed and killed.
I love how instead of the "Witty banter" it's "The sussy banter" LOL
Clearly, Matt, has not owned a cat.
Cats have different meows,
just like when we humans talk.
You can hear who is who, depending on how they talk/meow.
He does own a cat though, his name is Skip
Adam lost his girlfriend (who I presume is named Eve) to the alternates. Considering the creator included a cartoon of the Biblical Adam and Eve and the series' overall use of Biblical allusions, we can make a good guess on how he lost her. Adam's girlfriend became too curious and somehow was taken by the alternates. They likely tricked her into following them. Just as the snake tricked Eve into eating the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden. Now Adam, curious as Eve once was, is following in her footsteps. He hopes to figure out what the alternates are and where they took his girlfriend. Adam ate the forbidden fruit a long time ago, but as just the Biblical Adam before him, he now possesses forbidden knowledge that leads to his downfall.
Most people think it's Adam's mother that he lost. Adam is the baby from the crib that was kidnapped and her mom killed herself as a result. This is why Adam is so neglecting towards the alternates, because he is trying to get revenge. As a result, the alternates seem to have a tough time affecting him.
@@heresiarch. I hadn't considered that! That would explain why he's so adamant about revenge. The whole Adam and Eve thing was just my first assumption based on the creator's heavy use of Biblical themes in this ARG/unfiction piece.
i would PAY for a podcast of matpat and mirror mat just talking. probably the highlight of these videos are them just chatting, such a real friendship.
petition to start the matcast here
@@woopdeeboop that'll be the 4th channel. Mat Theory.
@@ARC--5973 technically 5th 😭 so many channels
When the guy was saying “behind you!” That was his ghost because it was coming out of the spirt box. That means he got killed and now is an imposter.
I think it's just the Intruder whichh is tampering with the voice box. As said, his presence causes the corruption and deterioration of these devices. Proof of this is at the end where he talks through the radio.
it was coming through their radio, and it was an alternate, as he asked what did i do when he's told to stop
@@DaddySolairee i doubt an alternate. Remember, alternates are physical beings while the intruder exists in different spectrums, and can tamper with radio and televisions
@@kevinvandijk4112 so the Alternate and Intruder are a different entity?
@@jepjep6740 yes, the alternates are just the copies or malformed versions of people, while the intruder is know to have only one face and he has different abilities than the alternates
I think that the picture at 50:51 indicates that Adam was the baby who was kidnapped in the instructional video before and that his mom killed herself which led to an alternate taking over her body like we have seen before which is what Jonah was referencing when he said something happened to a woman close to Adam in the radio call that offended Adam.
Keep in mind that that's just a theory, a Mandela catalogue Theory!
Also that upside down woman on the tv as well could be his mom as an alternate
I absolutely love analog horror but I can't do distorted faces. My way of coping with this is to just call them 'goofy guys' or 'silly fellas' whenever some creepy imagery shows up.
When the intruder/alternate snuck into the room I wasn't too afraid personally but I went "He's just in a silly goofy mood"
"aww look at the skrinkle..... cringly???"
Sussy bakas
I really don't find them scary. But I grew up with screampastas so...
XD SILLY FELLAS YASS
Do you know what’s interesting, Adam and Jonah are labeled as “Victim 3” and “Victim 4.” Obviously it’s supposed to tie in with Mark and Cesar, but that makes it feel like someone in universe is leaving these tapes for someone to find. Maybe someone who could put an end to the alternates.
I’d love if they went in a direction that whoever is leaving these tapes is probably an alternate themselves already, and trying to expose anyone else who watches them to the events that take place to extend their reach to another medium, as opposed to just television screens, but also old recorded tapes
@@michaelgarcia2197 Interesting theory! I like that!
the second coming of christ?
i think whoever is leaving the tapes is the baby who was kidnapped from the mom who is seeking revenge and makes it so people would discover the tapes and connect all of them and find a way to put an end to the alternates
@@retrosepticz5846 ah yes, b a b y
A partial theory: The lady locked her TV in the basement when they got the announcements to smash them. She thinks she's hearing her cats ghost, which is actually on the TV, and can't go down to check. Nor does she think to. That room is locked, done.
it's a trap set by alternates possibly, as the woman is put in quotations, like she isnt actually a person
I’m late, but I feel like the lady is an alternate herself. She says a LOT of things that set off red-flags for me. She seems to wants to lure these people into her house with the amount of money she’s offering, and she makes sure to reassure them that it isn’t an alternate, even though there is NO way for her to be sure of that unless she was an alternate herself.
Edit: I’d also want to point out that this lady’s house is COMPLETELY EMPTY. That’s not a normal trait for humans, meaning she might be an alternate trying to figure out how to blend in with the other humans.
@@memecat3455 She also has an... interesting way of speaking to say the least about it. When Adam says "we can do tonight." She responds with, "Can you do three nights?" Is if Adam said "we can do TWO nights" and then she ends the call with "Thank you so much, I appreciate it more than you can think." Which is not the phrase, the phrase is "More than you know." Which implies she isn't yet sure of how the human language works. Also, in the captioning, up until the end of the video, whenever an Alternate speaks, no speaker is listed, unlike when Adam and Jonah speak.
Ex. Adam: We can do tonight.
Can you do, three nights?
So the "woman" is most likely an Alternate. Trying to lure people to the home.
Mat calling the Mandela Catalogue “comedy” was the most disrespectful thing I’ve heard all day 💀
Analog humor
Cry ab it
How?
I’m mean Alex did say that the Mandela catalog was originally a joke
@@MasterSinister3 what a twisted joke
I'm just putting it out there that "fear" seems to be a big part of it. that keeps coming up before someone is killed/taken by the alternates the victim is afraid, wherever they go they bring this unexplainable fear with them, the tapes saying 'don't let them know your fear', the fact that that's all Adam said after eating the apple is "suddenly I feel afraid" and so many other instances where fear seems important. and it'd make sense that modern Adam (the victim) has gone so long without getting affected really because he seems to not be afraid of these things, given when they start saying freaky stuff to him. and Jonah was affected even after he left, and he was scared.
Also interesting they both have biblical names, just a thought.
This sort of thing always reminds me of my experience with GAD, or like specifically the “nightmare anxiety” sort of thing, where giving in to that little voice in your head telling you to “LOOK BEHIND YOU” will always just make your anxiety worse and lead you further towards a panic attack. When you give legitimacy to the voices, they gain power over you. Jonah did that at the end, with giving in to the guilt and the voice and all, and he could very well be dead because he left his car.
Yeah I think that’s pretty clear. They can’t hurt you if you’re not afraid of them it seems.
I think Adam here is 'immune' against Alternate is because he seems more vengeful than afraid against the Alternates.
with mark's encounter he did sound as if he was vengeful against the alternate after hiding from the alternate.
but after, you see that he did end himself, with the text "Nobody came for me"
@@sino8066 In no way is there any implication that Mark was vengeful. Even if there was, he remained fearful of whatever was behind his door, hence the fact he didn’t exit his room for a prolonged period of time.
@@_boogatti_ fair.
He's some sort of reference to Adam in the Bible
Matpat pointed out that the time had only changed by one minute between the clip of the day and the clip of the night. How did the GPS system know they would arrive at around midnight when their car broke down in the middle of the day.
That is a good question, why would it know?
32:47 mirror matt actually has an interesting point, not to do with angel numbers but instead what error 333 means. it actually is a fake windows alert. its supposed to trick the user into thinking their computer has crashed or that a virus has been detected. maybe its the intruder??
however in the case of an angel number, 333 indicates you are very close to a stress free life. maybe a fear free life too if we’re still saying that the alternates/intruder feed on fear?
"The yassification of the American workforce" hit me like a TRUCK 😂
MirrorMatt is a treasure
"the yassification of the american workforce" is not something i thought I'd ever hear here yet here we are 💀 im living for mirror mats sarcasm
the fact that adam and jonah started the paranormal society, because adam wanted to find his mom (the woman who hung herself because the intruder took him as a baby) is genuinely so upsetting. plus the fact that it can be assumed the woman’s voice on the radio is his mother’s…
Mat knowing how to deal with hinges really shows Dadpat energy
That picture at 51:11 is a painting called "The hands resist him", generally a creepy painting with dolls and freaky spirits, and considered by many to be haunted. Not sure how it fits into the story but that's what it looks like to me
many fans have pointed out that "the hands resist him" bears a striking resemblance to the picture of mark and his sister in Exhibition. alex kister has acknowledged this unsettling resemblance (the picture of mark and his sister is actually a picture of young alex and his sister) and is now presumably incorporating the picture into the plot.
I am fairly certain that the image is actually one from a previous episode of 2 kids standing in front of a church not entirely sure though don't really want to re watch at the moment of this typing because it's like midnight
It's not the painting, it's a previously seen photo. It does look like the painting tho
towards the end of the video, when he sees the intruder on the tv and the intruder says "you dont remember me" that leads me to believe that maybe adam was either a sibling of the kidnapped child during that whole thing, or he WAS that child, because it plays lullaby music and shows a picture of the mother who hung herself after seeing her baby gone, and when Jonah says that they took a lot from them and that one of the alternates or the intruder killed presumably his mother, i sort of made the connection that, once again, Adam was either a sibling of the baby, or the baby who was taken, and his mother killed herself because of it, leading back to what Jonah had said
Mat is right with the hinges thing
I once locked myself in my room and had to take the pin out to escape
49:45 we had one of those for my little sister with the EXACT same melody